Pre-Cata Goals - Blog edition

[Zub]

Hi all

Basically, following that other post (http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=31584&page=2#18) about the pre-cata goals, i thought i'd put my progress here for everyone to see and comment/advise
As stated in the other psot, my current goal for Cata is:


1. 100,000g across all toons (currently about 15,000g)
2. Average iLevel of my main team to 220 (currently 216, 4 toons at 209-214, and one at 238)
3. Glory of the Hero on all the main team
4. epic flying on my main team (got 3 done, 2 left to get)
[edit :deprecated] 5. second team (undecided atm, 4x mage or 3x mage + 1x priest ) to hit northrend (currently at level 60)
This is assuming Cataclysm hits mid November, and considering that my second child will be born end of september (which will obviously throw all goals around lol)
new goal #5: getting my professions to 450

Here are the teams i'm referring to:

http://www.wow-ratings.com/showList.php?id=Nocturne (http://www.wow-ratings.com)

http://www.wow-ratings.com/showList.php?id=Mages (http://www.wow-ratings.com)

i think i might be stretching my self a bit (particularly for goal #1) but we'll see how we go :-)


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Goal 1: Having 100K gold in the bank.
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I now have about 20k, but am spending a fair bit in repairs doing the Glory achievements (~150-200g per night) and the time spent there prevents me from making money with dailies or other easier instances.
I guess i'll have to complete goal #3 before i can reasonably work on this one.

I have posted a level 60 toon at both the Kazzak and DoomWalker spawn places, and plan on putting one where azuregos wanders.
I have a friend tanking Mag for me, so might be able to pull a few hundred gold here and there.
My bank currently have some mats to sell, but nothing that is of great value. mainly frostweave and meat/food, and some stacks of herbs (which i keep to eventualy finish levelling my alchemist)

Should i get my alchemists to 450 asap to do transmutes? one is at 404 the other at 376.


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Goal 2: Average iLevel of my main team at 220 - COMPLETE !
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Current Average iLevel per toon:
- Soap (Protection Paladin) 223.8
- Cixi (Holy Priest) 221.8
- Frizza (Frost Mage) 221.5
- Ghør (Balance Druid) 226.1
- Ghur (Elemental Shaman) 240.7

Current Average of the team: 226.8This should increase little by little as i do heroics and upgrade to iLvl 200 the last few blues i have, and to emblem items when i have enough triumphs.
Once this goal is achieved i'll move my triumphs and frost towards gold worthy items.


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Goal 3: Glory of the Hero on the main team COMPLETE!
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Here's the updated status:

Soap Cixi Frizza Ghør Ghur
On The Rocks Utgarde Keep X X X X X

Split Personality Nexus X X X X X
Intense Cold Nexus X X X X X
Chaos Theory Nexus X X X X X

Watch Him Die Azjol-Nerub X X X X X
Hadronox Denied Azjol-Nerub X X X X X
Gotta Go! Azjol-Nerub X X X X X

Volazj's Quick Demise Old Kingdom X X X X X
Respect Your Elders Old Kingdom X X X X X
Volunteer Work Old Kingdom X X X X X

Consumption Junction Drak'Tharon X X X X X
Better Off Dred Drak'Tharon X X X X X
Oh Novos! Drak'Tharon X X X X X

Defenseless Violet Hold X X X X X
Lockdown! Violet Hold X X X X X
Dehydration Violet Hold X X X X X
A Void Dance Violet Hold X X X X X

What the Eck? Gundrak X X X X X
Share The Love Gundrak X X X X X
Less-rabi Gundrak X X X X X
Snakes. Why Snakes? Gundrak X X X X X

Good Grief Halls of Stone X X X X X
Brann Spankin' New Halls of Stone X X X X X
Abuse the Ooze Halls of Stone X X X X X

Timely Death Halls of Lightning X X X X X
Lightning Struck Halls of Lightning X X X X X
Shatter Resistant Halls of Lightning X X X X X

The Culling of Time Stratholme X X X X X
Zombiefest! Stratholme X X X X X

The Incredible Hulk Utgarde Pinnacle X X X X X
Lodi Dodi We Loves the Skadi Utgarde Pinnacle X X X X X
My Girl Loves to Skadi Utgarde Pinnacle X X X X X
King's Bane Utgarde Pinnacle X X X X X

Experienced Drake Rider Occulus X X X X X
Make It Count Occulus X X X X X
Ruby Void Occulus X X X X X
Emerald Void Occulus X X X X X
Amber Void Occulus X X X X X
Team Completed achievements: 38 / 38 Done!

wiped many times on Watch him die last night, trying the zerg method (pull all), and the group by group (keeping elders alive) method.
Zerging seemed to work better (got him to 9% hp) but my healer tends to drop quick when boss calls the little mobs.
working on hand of Sacrifice macros and survivability macros.

i'm concerned about Less rabi, i have respecced the shaman to have the 5second interupt and made macro to that effect, but haven't been able to sync the cast yet. i might macro the mage to counterspell as well, just in case
Didn't realize boss was so close to back door, should be able to reset him next attempts.

Brann Freekin' New scares me. I have trouble doing the event itself (let alone keep Brann unharmed). I always eventually succeed, but after many wipes, and somehow Brann always gets hit at least once or twice.
Most disliked instance, but at least now i've done the other achieves and will be able to go direct to Brann.

Occulus is also a concern, I have yet to kill the last boss while multiboxing. Haven't tried in a while now and gear has improved quite a bit, so will see how it goes. Make it count is going to be tough though.

Just did Intense cold, indeed just leave toons that need it in another room, they will get the achievement.

Volazj's Quick Demise i don't have the dps required to nuke him before insanity, and during insanity pretty much everyone dies except the one i control directly.
did a couple try, and found that controlling my weakest toon helped a little (my priest)
ended up killing Volazj with just the tank and the healer, in 8 minutes 17seconds >.<

Just tried Share the love.. took me 4 times to get the correct tanks impaled (i off tank with my druid gone bear for the occasion) then it took 6 minutes to get everyone impaled - i checked the chat log soo many times - and then i finaly killed him.. and didn't get the achievement :-(
pretty sure it's a big so i ticketed it... we'll see

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Goal 4: Epic Flying on main team - COMPLETE !
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this is pretty much an extension of Goal #1, as it's basically just getting another 10k gold (only need 2 more mounts)
Hopeing to use the raf rockets in the meantime, as the two Raf referers have epic flying already.
Then i'm hoping to use 5x red proto drakes from goal #3 :-)

Paladin, Shaman, Druid done
Priest now done,
Mage Done (indeed Org rep made it cheaper when bought in Thrallmar)


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Goal 5: Up professions to 450
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using the WoW Team Portal Tool (http://wow-ratings.com/index_teams.php)i realised my professions were a mess, I ditched a couple, took a couple new and am now trying to get them all to 450.
- Mining
- Herbalism x2 - done
- Skinning - done
- Alchemy
- Inscription - done
- Tailoring x2
- Enchanting
- Jewelcrafting

this seems more important than my original team#2 goal.

right, that's it for now, Thanks for reading.
Feel free to comment, or even post your own goals below.
I'll edit this message with updated data every day or so.
Cheers,
-Zub


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[Slats]

I got Less-Rabi done and I'm also an Aussie. This was before I used lowerping and I used to have a 350ms - 400ms ping.

I pretty much made a round robin windsheer macro that interrupted casting and bound it to mouse wheel up just for this fight.

Essentially after interrupting the 50% transform I popped Fire Elementals and mashed my /click DPS key while scroling my mousewheel up.

With this being my result:

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd161/SlatsAU/Screenshots/WoWScrnShot_120209_062419.jpg

As for getting 100k in your guild bank it is not difficult. I dont do any dialies and I've stopped doing gdkp (raid with gold as the DKP) runs so all I am doing to make cash now is doing 1 instances sometimes 2 a day for my Frost Tokens and doing all my Wintergrasp quests ever week. With turning in the shards and Honor and Triumph badges for gems/honor I cut them all and resell them on the AH for pure profit.

Once you build a nice big bank roll you can find people selling bulk gems for very cheap. Evne on my tiny server there are level 1's selling 400+ cardinal rubies for 70g each. I simple buy all their stock so none of my competiters can buy them and then flip them at cut gem prices - selling for 100g- 130g per gem.


I think your goal of having your secondary 'alt' team ready for Northrend is a good idea. Rather than trying to commit to maxxing out both teams I just dont think there is enough time left

Good luck with the Glory Of The Hero - I am going to start doing this myself also. :)

[Zub]

Yes, yes, yes and YES!
another self-grats thread, but boy i deserve it. /pats himself on the back.

finally got Brann Spanking New
Ended up with no toon alive, but dzoing! achievement.

in the end i got my mage and boomkin on each side at the bottom of the stairs, the holy priest in the middle 5 yards behind, and the shamy another 5 yards behind.

paladin in the front (top of stairs) gathering everything, mage and druid casting constant aoe on the stairs and shaman nuking from behind.

at the '2min left!' mark i dropped everything i got, starting with the earth elemental at the back to gather everything i missed, the trees and mirror image, bloodlust, everything.
a couple died from the fire lazer, healer died from agro and in the end Iwas left with the paly and a gazilion mob hitting her. Had to Lay on hands, but lasted long enough :-)
Sooo glad that one's out of the way.

Also did CoS, and got another drake (4th) so bought my healer her epic flying. 4 done, 1 to go.
back to 15,000g tho.

got to love this game for the little achievements

[Toned]

Completely unrelated but I like your little tools and stuff at wow-ratings.com

[SaraiE]

Hi Zub!
Nice goals.

For me, my second daughter is coming too, this one will be a Halloween girl. The last one was supposed to a Christmas eve girl, but she came three days early.

I have 50K from questing and doing dailies. I am not going to do heroics, but going to spend these months on lvling the alts to 75 or higher for transmuting. Second team is at 67.5 now.

I will take one month off work when she comes and will be on night shift with diapers and feeding, while the wife rests and sleeps. I can do some Cata lvling if the release is indeed in November.

One whole month of playing, at night too, so there should be less competition with grinding to 85, yay!

SaraiE

[Zub]

Completely unrelated but I like your little tools and stuff at wow-ratings.com
Thanks! :-)

On that note, you can specify your toonlist to have a light background, and it will show much better on dual-boxing.com
i've put on hold WoW-rotations for now, as it's too much work for before Cata launches, and will be obsolete as soon as it launches.

working (slowly) on something else, a team portal type thing, which should include team specifics (achieves, goals etc) and toon specifics (like gear etc)
it will also include a better gear comparison list (http://www.wow-ratings.com/showGear.php?id=Nocturne for example, replace "Nocturne" with your id. quite slow at the moment)



@Sarai: grats and good luck !
ours is planned for October 3rd. Little boy this time. his sister wil then be 2yo and awaits impatiently :-)

[Harrypott]

Nice work on less rabi!

[ghonosyph]

hey zub! :) looks like you got some clear cut goals and you're plugging along, but i'd like to offer up a little tip, GO FARM HELLFIRE REP, and get your flight training for like 4200 instead of 5k :) is will saves you sum goldz! :D

get exalted(which is obscenely easy if you quested the zone and then farm some in the instances) which gives you cheaper costs from hellfire(thrallmar if you're horde) rep. Then buy the training there in thrallmar(or if you're alliance, i didnt check, forget the name of your town, honor hold?) :D

[Zub]

hey zub! :) looks like you got some clear cut goals and you're plugging along, but i'd like to offer up a little tip, GO FARM HELLFIRE REP, and get your flight training for like 4200 instead of 5k :) is will saves you sum goldz! :D

get exalted(which is obscenely easy if you quested the zone and then farm some in the instances) which gives you cheaper costs from hellfire(thrallmar if you're horde) rep. Then buy the training there in thrallmar(or if you're alliance, i didnt check, forget the name of your town, honor hold?) :D
doh >.<
bought a mount from dalaran yesterday for 5kg. stupid me.
Thanks for the tip, i'll definitely do that for the last toon, he's almost revered.

cheers,
-Zub

[ghonosyph]

actually i was wrong, its ORGRIMMAR rep !! aaaaaa lol oh well :) time to farm org rep myself! :D

[Toned]

Thanks! :-)

On that note, you can specify your toonlist to have a light background, and it will show much better on dual-boxing.com
i've put on hold WoW-rotations for now, as it's too much work for before Cata launches, and will be obsolete as soon as it launches.

working (slowly) on something else, a team portal type thing, which should include team specifics (achieves, goals etc) and toon specifics (like gear etc)
it will also include a better gear comparison list (http://www.wow-ratings.com/showGear.php?id=Nocturne for example, replace "Nocturne" with your id. quite slow at the moment)



@Sarai: grats and good luck !
ours is planned for October 3rd. Little boy this time. his sister wil then be 2yo and awaits impatiently :-)
Ya I was dicking around with the backgrounds I settled with the dark ><

[Zub]

yeeehaaa, Achievement spam! (finaly got Heroic Occulus on the main team)
ended up using 2 ruby and 2 amber, and the healer on a plaform (not mounted). She died when the boss was still at 75% >.<

http://tonicturtle.free.fr/wow/WoWScrnShot_082710_225718.jpg

[Toned]

Grats -

Might just be me, but when I do occulus I use Ruby + 4 Emeralds... makes it very easy. Then I used 5 amber to get ruby/emerald void awhile back.

[Zub]

Grats -

Might just be me, but when I do occulus I use Ruby + 4 Emeralds... makes it very easy. Then I used 5 amber to get ruby/emerald void awhile back.
indeed 1x Ruby + 4x Emerald seemed a bit easier, just did it tonight, i would recommend this for players just starting on Occulus

[Iceorbz]

Congrats man! Keep up your work, 100k isnt to far off!

I am really impressed with Glory of the Hero =) keep it up.

[Zub]

Goal #4 complete! :-)

http://tonicturtle.free.fr/wow/WoWScrnShot_082910_150144.jpg

[Zub]

Goal #2 Complete ! :-)

just got another stack of 50 triumph emblems, and that pushed my team to an average iLevel of 221.7
might push to 225, but working on the rest now :-)

[Zub]

Decided to change my last goal, as i lost a bit of interest in running outland at the moment, and want to prepare my main team for cata instead

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NEW Goal 5: Up professions to 450
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using the WoW Team Portal tool (http://wow-ratings.com/index_teams.php?id=Nocturne) i realised my professions were a mess, I ditched a couple, took a couple new and am now trying to get them all to 450.
- Mining
- Herbalism x2 - done
- Skinning - done
- Alchemy
- Inscription - done
- Tailoring x2
- Enchanting
- Jewelcrafting

this seems more important than my original team#2 goal.

i just started mining and JC this weekend, and am trying to spend as little as possible on JC, so i'm only using whatever the miner gathers.
takes a while to run from node to node, that's for sure :-/


only 5 "Glory of the Hero" achievements left.
one trivial ("experienced drake rider"), a 3 that are mostly gear dependant (Watch him die, Volajz quick demise, make it count) and one that requires a good amount of luck /timing (less rabi)

i swear i must have tried Less Rabi 30-40 times (resetting when he gets a cast off) and it's really becoming a pain.
I think i just can't seem to find the correct moment to start my 5sec interrupt rotation on the shaman.
i kill him in ~35 seconds when i go full on. The first cast i interupt with the shaman, and he doesn't have a chance to cast another before 50%.
I get the 50% cast with the paladin, but by then i'm not sure when the 3rd cast will occur.
- is it 5 seconds after the 50% one? doesn't look like it.
- is 10 seconds after the pre-50% one? doesn't look like it
- is it any time after 50% and I should wait for it and not dps so that it's long enough to manually interupt? maybe, don't know.
- i also have a mage taht can silence,. It works well to interrupt, but i'm not sure whether the 8seconds silence throws the 5second-cycle out of not.
Any suggestions?


Watch him die i've tried about 15 times. Got him to ~4% (15k hp) one of the recent tries so i'm somewhat confident that i'll get him soon.

Volazj, i still need to up my dps (might get the healer to dps) as I can't seem to kill the shades during the insanity phase quick enough,.
I've tried the full on zerg to avoid insanities altogether and got him to 38% (33% needed) so getting there, but no cigar yet.

Make it count is a bit of a pain, mainly because i usually wipe once or twice on Eregos.
i have the 5 amber drake setup ready however now, and that's usually a 30second kill when i pull it off, so it's looking much better than my earlier 5min/8 min kills >.<

[Harrypott]

Less rabi is a major pain with au lag. The easiest way I've found is Zerg, if u kill him in under 20? Seconds u only get 1 interrupt to do usually. Hero and dump all abilities etc. I've spent a fair while trying it none boxing trying different strats (none boxing with really geared players and shammy spec'd for better interrupts) and ended up Zerged the first go. U might need better gear before u can do it or gets some arcane mages with speed pots to help out. Zerg is usually done as all dps, no heals and tank would normally change to dps too.

After the boss gets too low he changes in under a sec so if u have 300ms it's almost impossible to interrupt except via luck.

[ghonosyph]

tip for less rabi, get him to about 50 %, interrupt, then nuke. after he gets below 50% it comes every 5 seconds :)

[Zub]

Less rabi is a major pain with au lag. The easiest way I've found is Zerg, if u kill him in under 20? Seconds u only get 1 interrupt to do usually. Hero and dump all abilities etc. I've spent a fair while trying it none boxing trying different strats (none boxing with really geared players and shammy spec'd for better interrupts) and ended up Zerged the first go. U might need better gear before u can do it or gets some arcane mages with speed pots to help out. Zerg is usually done as all dps, no heals and tank would normally change to dps too.

After the boss gets too low he changes in under a sec so if u have 300ms it's almost impossible to interrupt except via luck.
i might try that, and get both my tank and healer dps as well (ret and lolsmite respectively)
I'll see if I can get the interupt done by my mage and perhaps the 8seconds silence will do something, and just add wind shear in the shaman rotation >.<


tip for less rabi, get him to about 50 %, interrupt, then nuke. after he gets below 50% it comes every 5 seconds :)
That means you need to do the 45%-50% hp left in under 5 seconds >.<
that's ~150-200K / 5 = ~ 7k dps for all toons, including tank and healer... not going to happen, i'll have to throw interupts at random in the middle and hope for the best.

[Zub]

Finally managed to get "Watch him die" tonight, on 5th attempt.

didn't kite, didn't kill group by group, just went full zerg. Used a cleansing totem
use a scroll of agility, a 2min armor pot (waited on cooldown before fight), a health pot, and 40stam food
- shield thrown on left group, taunt on boss, consecration, aoe stun
- start focus fire on boss
- start burst tools: mirror image, starfall, treants, bloodlust (Not Fire Elem!), pop dodge trinket
- hand of protection on priest, shield (-50% dmg) on tank
- drop Earth Elem (gives 3-5 seconds respite)
- priest spams Holy nova.

a couple tries before i wipes with the boss at 83hp. >.< yes, one tick of consecration would have killed it
he seems to get some massive damage reduction around 1%hp, the last 10k were as long as the previous 40k hp it seemed.

[Harrypott]

Grats! it's fun :)

[Toned]

For less rhabi... you should just run 5 dps or tank + 4 dps :)

[Zub]

Yes, just got LessRabi..

did about 40 attempts in total, and finally got an idea of when the casts would happen, relative to moorabi's hp bar

so basically i used my mage for the (slow) first one, then used my Paladin's as soon as i saw 52% (to catch the 50% cast), then my shaman at 35%, and then shaman on cooldown (got a fourth cast before he died)
quite stressful, but fark yeah, that's done.

My shaman (whom i played solo for a bit) for the Glory of the Hero on that one. The rest of the crew needed experienced drake rider (which i got tonight on all as well) and now only have Volajz Quick Demise to do.

did about 10 attempts zerging but didn't get him. Got him to 15% once before he got me in Insanity (where i'm hopeless) but overall it was about 25-30% left.

will see tomorrow :-)

[Toned]

Either zerg him or use a IWT button on your casters to face their targets and pewpew them fast. If you zerg hard enough you can down him.

[Zub]

oh does IWT work through Insanity?
as in, if my paly selects the healer shade, will all slaves select their respective healer shades? >.<
didn't even think of using IWT.

[Zub]

and finaly, Glory of the Hero complete! :-)
http://tonicturtle.free.fr/wow/WoWScrnShot_091710_230311.jpg

[Toned]

oh does IWT work through Insanity?
as in, if my paly selects the healer shade, will all slaves select their respective healer shades? >.<
didn't even think of using IWT.

What I was refering to is IWT so it faces whatever mob hits them first and they can just pewpew it down and then hit iwt again and pewpew it down.