Another 1800 team

[Zappy]

After getting destroyed by Palee (Firstcow) in av on my main shammys, I decided to take a look and redo all my macros as his team looked so fluid and effortless. I was very close to shelving the team as I just couldn't seem to play them with any sort of consistency. A few weeks ago, I wasn't using click macros and got to around a 1700 season high, but would continually get beat back down into the 1500s. After making the switch to click macros, my rating has been climbing very steady the past couple weeks and I finally pushed 1800 last night. I definitely feel like I can keep pushing higher as well. A quick thanks to Firstcow to giving me some new inspiration to continue with the team.

Here's a screenshot of my team, and I want to get some opinions as i decided to do something different and get a mix of weapons on them. I haven't enchanted or gemmed them yet, so I can still switch them out, but I'm really leaning towards this look:

http://www.garysdecks.com/WoW/DkRet1800.jpg

Oh yah, and this is team #2 for me to hit 1800 with. Here's my shammys early in the season when they hit it. Sadly, I haven't been able to get past 1946 on them:

http://www.garysdecks.com/WoW/Zappys.jpg

[Kicksome]

Man, I hated to see those guys in arena when I was on my 4x shamans, lol. Congrats!

[Littleburst]

Gratz!

Still struggling with my DK + rets :)

[outdrsyguy1]

grats zappy, that's definitely an accomplishment. I think I might have to switch to click macro's also, i think my castsequence loses a lot of dps when eveyone's feared or cc'd for a bit and they do the crappy attacks instead of judgments and such after the cc ends.
mind posting your click for me by chance?

[Zappy]

I don't have them in front of me, but if I recall, they are pretty simple:

1. Judgement
2. Crusader Strike
3. Divine Storm
4. Exorcism
5. Hammer of Wrath

The big key I found was having Crusader strike right before Divine Storm as when my guys got split up or I switch targets, I'd find my Divine storm going off and not hitting anyone. With the click macro, Divine Storm won't go off until after crusader strike, so I'm almost always guaranteed to hit someone with it this way.

I also tied my rocket gloves to either step 3 or 4. I used to do it manually, but I found putting it into the sequence makes a lot more use of it and normally my first target gets hit the hardest.

My DK uses his frost and unholy runes in his click macro, but saves the blood for heals. At first, I wasn't convinced I could put his in a reasonable cast sequence, but it seems to work decent.

I must add, it feels pretty stupid doing arena and getting up to 1800 by doing very little more than mashing my "123" keys and occasionally clicking a new target. :D 1 = click macro, 2=assist leader, 3=interract with target.

The other thing I've noticed since switching to this setup is that my guys seem to run around the targets a lot more. No clue why that would be, but it seems to work great in arenas against range classes.

I also did some test dummies before and after and saw ~3k to 3.5k ds on them. Afterwards I was seeing 5 to 6 - that's without concecretion and wings. I don't understand what would make that much of a difference against test dummies?! Anybody else experience this or understand the logic here?

[outdrsyguy1]

There was a long thread about castsequence vs. click several months back but I thought we found that it only mattered when your rotation didn't have downtime, the downtime in your rotation (like for pallies) should suck up the latency loss in castsequence. So no idea why you'd see a dps increase, i'll have to check it out. It does help the burst though because if a couple toons get off in their cast sequence, the burst hits at seperate times which isn't good.

[Shodokan]

I got heroic bryntrolls so i never bothered getting 1800 >_>

[Kicksome]

I got heroic bryntrolls so i never bothered getting 1800 >_>

It's not easy, believe that.

[Shodokan]

It's not easy, believe that.
Not saying it is? Just saying that i have weps that are so much better than the 1800 weps i don't feel it's worth doing.

grats btw.

[Fat Tire]

As much as it pains me to agree with shodokan, he is right. If you have access and they are available a large number of Pve weapons are really good for melee. In fact the pve off pieces and trinkets are also insane for melee in pvp.


Unless I am mistaken and this was another 1800/2000 self glorifying post. :D

[Zappy]

So what do you guys think of the mixed weapons look on the team? I gotta decide shortly before I decide to start gemming/enchanting it all up.

[Fat Tire]

Me personally I like the look, your team does look pretty cool in the screeny.

[Shodokan]

So what do you guys think of the mixed weapons look on the team? I gotta decide shortly before I decide to start gemming/enchanting it all up.

I like the mixture.

[Kicksome]

Not saying it is? Just saying that i have weps that are so much better than the 1800 weps i don't feel it's worth doing.

grats btw.

Yeah, If all you wanted to do arena for is to get the weapons, then you can do better with ICC 264+. And it's a lot less time and frustration.

If you do well at arena, you'll get past 1800 anyway, and have plenty of arena points to buy the weapons if you want. They are really cheap.

[Fat Tire]

If you do well at arena, you'll get past 1800 anyway, and have plenty of arena points to buy the weapons if you want. They are really cheap.

Actually, if you do well at arena you will need alot of points because the 2200 weapons are not cheap. However, the Heroic Byntroll is equal to or better 2200 weapons not the 1800 weapons.

[Kicksome]

Actually, if you do well at arena you will need alot of points because the 2200 weapons are not cheap. However, the Heroic Byntroll is equal to or better 2200 weapons not the 1800 weapons.

My post was replying to Shodokan, who isn't in danger of hitting 2200 since he mentioned he doesn't want to go through the trouble of hitting 1800.

I'd say 2200 in 5's with quad+ boxing is doing a lot better than well. Are there maybe 3 boxers that have that this season?

[Shodokan]

My post was replying to Shodokan, who isn't in danger of hitting 2200 since he mentioned he doesn't want to go through the trouble of hitting 1800.

I'd say 2200 in 5's with quad+ boxing is doing a lot better than well. Are there maybe 3 boxers that have that this season?

Two who didn't wintrade?

I'm just not a fan of arena, never have been. We all are allowed to do what we want. I'm not taking away from anyone's accomplishments.

[Morganti]

Mind posting your macro's Zappy? I am continually tweaking mine due to unhappiness with them (especially on the DK).

[Nsaeyn]

I second that on the posting of the /click macros. I have been working for days and no luck with getting better /click than my castsequence.

Thanks in advance.

[Zappy]

Mind posting your macro's Zappy? I am continually tweaking mine due to unhappiness with them (especially on the DK).

Here's the 4 I use on my DK. I don't have any blood spells other than pestilence in the rotation as I want to make sure that I always have one available when I need it:


#showtooltip
/castsequence reset=combat Icy Touch,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

#showtooltip
/castsequence reset=combat Plague Strike,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

#showtooltip
/castsequence reset=combat Pestilence,10,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,

#showtooltip
/castsequence reset=combat Death Coil,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,



As far as paladins, they are pretty basic. Rotate your judgements, and players in the sacred shield macro:

Palys:


#showtooltip
/castsequence reset=combat Judgement of Light,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

#showtooltip
/castsequence reset=combat Crusader Strike,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

#showtooltip
/castsequence reset=combat Exorcism,10,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,

#showtooltip
/castsequence reset=combat Divine Storm,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

#showtooltip
/castsequence [@Skippÿ] reset=combat/5 Sacred Shield,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,

/cast Hammer of Wrath


You can also remove the 10 if you aren't using rocket gloves.

[Morganti]

Thanks Zappy. Much more simple than the crazy stuff I was trying to code. I'll give them a try and see how I like em.

[Zappy]

I've been tweaking my DK to have DeathStrike and Blood boil into the rotation along with a few small changes in his spec. He's now up to ~3500 DPS. My paladins are all hitting around 7k now.


Here's the updated macros I'm using in my DK:


#showtooltip
/castsequence reset=combat Icy Touch,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

#showtooltip
/castsequence reset=combat Plague Strike,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

#showtooltip
/castsequence reset=combat Death Strike,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

#showtooltip
/castsequence reset=combat Pestilence,10,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,

#showtooltip
/castsequence reset=combat Blood Boil,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

#showtooltip
/castsequence reset=combat Death Coil,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[Nsaeyn]

Thank you very much for posting. Nice work. I will try it out and see how different it is from mine tonight.