Improved Holy Nova gone

[Owltoid]

According to mmo-champion the latest build has the talent "Improved Holy Nova" missing - shit. That was key to a holy build since it guaranteed an instant smite proc (50% increased crit and 0.5 sec reduced GCD).

I hope they put it back. I don't really see a multiboxing smite priest working with a holy build, though it could still be possible with a disc build (smites will have tons of passive healing).

Overall this is pretty bad, though.

[Littleburst]

QQ

I'm affraid it'll stick like that, since it seemed to not be very well thought through like you showed. We can still hope though.

[Owltoid]

If it doesn't come back then my first attempt at multiboxing priests will be a disc build. The news of IHN going away really sucks since it comes at the same time that chakra is changed for the better (much better IMO, their old design sucked).

May IHN won't be needed if I gem for crit. With IHN I was going to gem away from crit entirely since my Surge of Light procs can't crit.

[ghonosyph]

well gemming AND using the new reforge thing will help a lot with crit. But yes, as it stands theres no current plans for "re-implementation" of imp holy nova. It'll still be good tho :)

[Owltoid]

well gemming AND using the new reforge thing will help a lot with crit. But yes, as it stands theres no current plans for "re-implementation" of imp holy nova. It'll still be good tho :)

How do you know if there's a current plan for re-implementation?

[Maxion]

I would guess from it being overpowered and being taken out.

[Owltoid]

I would guess from it being overpowered and being taken out.

Although I (we) can see that it could be overpowered, I really don't think that's the reason they took it out. I think it's because they didn't want a talent focusing on one spell that is rarely used and highly situational. I'm still hoping it comes back, or even better they make holy nova the unique holy spell (though that would suck for disc priests).

I think most priests consider holy nova the second worst spell next to lightwell.

[Redbeard]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO =(

In their defense it did seem pretty overpowered but looked pretty fun. Oh well.

Is the smart heal for 40% of smite damage still in I hope?

[Owltoid]

It is, but it's limited to 8 yards (I'm assuming 8 yards from the enemy you just hit with smite). While that could still be fun in PvE, it's not a big enough range to be fun in PvP, though I'll still try both a holy and disc build in Cata.

Here's my wishlist:

1.) Bring back improved holy nova (not likely, but still crossing my fingers)
2.) Increase range of Atonement (fairly likely given that very few people would spend point in this talent to begin with, and having an 8 yards range makes them even less likely... a part of me is worried they'll just scrap the whole idea which will officially kill any hope of a smite priest spec)
3.) The holy power for level 10 be something offensive and useful

Right now I don't see a great priest spec in the talent trees. I'm still going to try it, but the smite spec has been getting the nerf bat hard. One strength of the priests is having 5x mana burn, but you can get that with shadow. I may look into playing 5 shadow priests w/o shadowform - who knows. My zeal for the priests has greatly faded :(

[Shodokan]

It is, but it's limited to 8 yards (I'm assuming 8 yards from the enemy you just hit with smite). While that could still be fun in PvE, it's not a big enough range to be fun in PvP, though I'll still try both a holy and disc build in Cata.

Here's my wishlist:

1.) Bring back improved holy nova (not likely, but still crossing my fingers)
2.) Increase range of Atonement (fairly likely given that very few people would spend point in this talent to begin with, and having an 8 yards range makes them even less likely... a part of me is worried they'll just scrap the whole idea which will officially kill any hope of a smite priest spec)
3.) The holy power for level 10 be something offensive and useful

Right now I don't see a great priest spec in the talent trees. I'm still going to try it, but the smite spec has been getting the nerf bat hard. One strength of the priests is having 5x mana burn, but you can get that with shadow. I may look into playing 5 shadow priests w/o shadowform - who knows. My zeal for the priests has greatly faded :(

Shadow priests damage is so high dude... seriously.

[ghonosyph]

Yea owl i feel your pain bro, they removed the whole smite counterpoint now. I think shadow will probably be the way to go now given the changes they JUST made. Makes me sad, cuz i got excited to do this whole 5 priest thing :D

[Owltoid]

Shadow priests damage is so high dude... seriously.

Yeah, I may go with shadow priests - I can still holy nova for quick heals and swarms, but their survivability with dispersion and passive healing may be too good to pass up. I'm hoping I don't have to, as I'd rather make a non-traditional DPS class work for PvP, but with the amount of nerfs they're making to smite priests they're not leaving us with much choice.

[Owltoid]

Yea owl i feel your pain bro, they removed the whole smite counterpoint now. I think shadow will probably be the way to go now given the changes they JUST made. Makes me sad, cuz i got excited to do this whole 5 priest thing :D

Cata priests now look absolutely nothing like Cata priests did a month ago - oh well. There could still be large changes coming, but smite priests don't seem to be a goal for the developers (understandable, but personally disappointing).