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Khatovar
07-28-2010, 06:13 AM
Here's a current {read- rough, incomplete, subject to change} "at-a-glance" list of where Blizz is heading with de/buff placement among the classes in Cata, based on what GC posted this morning (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=24702234448&sid=2000&pageNo=9#170) and what is reflected in the current beta build. I tried to get all the proper spells in with Cata.wowhead links so you can compare side-by-side with other classes that also provide said de/buff.




Buffs



Agility and Strength - DK {Horn of Winter (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=57330)}, Shaman {Strength of Earth Totem (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=8075)}, Warrior {Battle Shout (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=6673)}

Armor -- Shaman {Stoneskin Totem (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=8071)}, Paladin {Devotion Aura (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=465)}

10% AP -- MM Hunter {Trueshot Aura (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=19506)}, Enh Shaman {Unleashed Rage (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=30809)}, Blood DK {Abomination's Might (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=53138)}, Paladin {Blessing of Might (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=19740)}

Burst Haste -- Shaman {Bloodlust/Heroism (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=2825)}, Mage {Time Warp (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=80353)}

3% Damage -- BM Hunter {Ferocious Inspiration (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=75447)}, Arcane Mage {Arcane Tactics (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=82930)}, Ret Paladin {Swift Retribution (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=53648)}

Health -- Warlock (prob Destro) {NYI}, Warrior {Commanding Shout (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=469)}, Priest {Power Word: Fortitude (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=21562)}

Mana Pool -- Mage {Arcane Intellect (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=1459)}, Warlock (prob Affliction) {NYI}

Mana Regen -- Paladin {Blessing of Might (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=19740)}, Shaman {Mana Spring Totem (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=5675)}, Warlock (prob Affliction) {NYI}

Replenishment -- Shadow Priest {Vampiric Touch (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=34914)}, Frost Mage {Enduring Winter (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=44561)}, Survival Hunter {Hunting Party (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=53291)}, Destro Warlock {Soul Leech (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=30295)}, Ret Paladin {Communion (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=31876)}

5% Crit -- Fury Warrior {Rampage (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=29801)}, Feral Druid {Leader of the Pack (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=17007)}, Sub Rogue {Honor Among Thieves (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=51701)}, Ele Shaman {Elemental Oath (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=51470)}

20% Melee Attack Speed -- Shaman {Windfury Totem (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=8512)}, Frost DK {Improved Icy Talons (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=55610)}, Ret Paladin {Swift Retribution (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=53648)}, Surv Hunter {NYI}

5% Spell Haste -- Shaman {Wrath of Air Totem (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=3738)}, Balance Druid {Moonkin Form (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=24858)}, Shadow Priest {NYI}, Destro Warlock {Dark Intent (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=80398)?}

6% Spell Power -- Mage {NYI?}, Shaman {Flametongue Totem (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=8227)}

10% Spell Power -- Ele Shaman {Totemic Wrath (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=77746)}, Demo Warlock {Demonic Pact (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=53646)}, Fire Mage {NYI?}

5% Stats -- Paladin {Blessing of Kings (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=20217)}, Druid {Mark of the Wild (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=1126)}



Debuffs



12% Armor Debuff -- Warrior {Sunder Armor (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=7386) (Devastate (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=20243))}, Rogue {Expose Armor (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=8647)}, Druid {Faerie Fire (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=770)}, Hunter {Scorpid Venom (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=3043)}

10% Physical Damage Debuff -- Warrior {Demoralizing Shout (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=1160)}, Druid (probably bear) {NYI}, Prot paladin {Vindication (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=26016)}, Warlock {Curse of Weakness (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=702)}, Blood DK {Scarlet Fever (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=81132)}

30% Bleed Damage Debuff -- Arms Warrior {Blood Frenzy (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=29859)}, Feral Druid {Mangle (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=33917)}, Sub Rogue {Hemorrhage (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=16511)}

30% Cast Speed Slow -- Warlock {Curse of Tongues (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=1714)}, Rogue {Mind-Numbing poison (http://cata.wowhead.com/item=5237)}, Arcane Mage {Slow (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=31589)}

5% Spell Crit Chance Taken -- Fire Mage {Improved Scorch (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=12872)}, Warlock (probably Demo) {NYI}, possibly Frost Mage {NYI}

25% Healing Taken -- Arms Warrior {Mortal Strike (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=12294)}, Fury Warrior {Furious Attacks (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=46911) 20%}, Hunter {Widow Venom (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=82654)}, Rogue {Wound Poison (http://cata.wowhead.com/item=10918)}, Frost Mage {Permafrost (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=12571)}, Shadow Priest {Improved Mind Blast (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=15313)}

10% {typo or inc nerfs?} Melee Attack Speed Debuff -- Warrior {Thunder Clap (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=6343)}, DK {Icy Touch (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=45477)}, Feral Druid {Infected Wounds (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=48484)}, Prot Paladin {Judgements of the Just (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=53696)}

4% Physical Vulnerability -- Arms Warrior {Blood Frenzy (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=29859)}, Combat Rogue {Savage Combat (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=58413)}, Frost DK {Brittle Bones (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=81328)}

8% Spell Damage Taken -- Warlock {Curse of the Elements (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=1490)}, Unholy DK {Ebon Plaguebringer (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=51160)}, Balance Druid {Earth and Moon (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=48511)}, Assassination Rogue {Master Poisoner (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=58410)}

Owltoid
07-28-2010, 08:53 AM
I think it was mentioned a few times that Blessing of Wisdom is gone

Khatovar
07-28-2010, 09:05 AM
I think it was mentioned a few times that Blessing of Wisdom is gone

Whoo, I'm wrong again, Wisdom was merged with Might (http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=19740)!

Svpernova09
07-28-2010, 09:35 AM
Awesome, thanks for doing all the wowhead links.

Owltoid
07-28-2010, 09:40 AM
Also, I could be wrong if they're changing it in the expansion, but your 5% crit may not be specific enough. For example, I believe feral druid gives 5% crit to melee and ranged, but not casters.

zenga
07-28-2010, 09:56 AM
Looks like pally/druid/lock/mage/shaman is a promising combo. And to have more options i have a disc priest on stand by.

Khatovar
07-28-2010, 10:24 AM
Also, I could be wrong if they're changing it in the expansion, but your 5% crit may not be specific enough. For example, I believe feral druid gives 5% crit to melee and ranged, but not casters.

Yeah, I can only go by the fairly vague stuff GhostCrawler posted, so I don't know if it's going to be all types of damage rolled into the +5% buff and it's just poor wording, with an additional +5% debuff for spell crit only or if it'll be just physical on the buff and spell on the debuff, or if it's going to be split down the middle with Rogues and Ferals missing out on the spell damage portion.

Hopefully we can get some feedback from beta people since they probably have more info than I can regurgitate from MMOChampion ;P

DLoweinc
07-28-2010, 12:45 PM
Thanks for posting that!

DLoweinc
07-28-2010, 12:56 PM
Looks like pally/druid/lock/mage/shaman is a promising combo. And to have more options i have a disc priest on stand by.

I agree, I may be swapping out my holy/disc priest with my resto shaman and bringing in my warlock instead.... looks like I wouldn't lose anything and would gain replenishment.

I have the same team makeup as you and had been thinking about moving to a shaman healer over my priest.

jinkobi
07-28-2010, 03:39 PM
Lot of good info on the beta forums on class changes plus other things. You can read them even if you aren't in the beta. Nice to hear first hand accounts from those playing the classes.

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.html?sid=2000&forumId=27265656

lightstriker
10-17-2010, 08:25 PM
Thanks, appreciate the good work