focus macros and wintergrasp?

[valle2000]

My groups are now built on using focus. My follow macro looks:

/clearfocus
/focus [@char1, exists, nodead][@char2, exists, nodead][@char3,exists, nodead][@char4, exists, nodead]
/follow focus

However this only works while in a group. So what will happen when I reach 78+ and want to try out wintergrasp battles? If I'm unlucky my chars may end up in different raid groups and my macros won't work, or?

[Gurblash]

replace @char# with the actual character name.

[valle2000]

lol
Yes, I have my char names there. Just replaced the names with char# when posting here. ;-)

[gbremset]

Then your macros will still work..

My macro is basically the same as yours, but with a little different setup

/target [@toon1,nodead][@toon2,nodead][@toon3,nodead][@toon4,nodead][@toon1]
/follow
/focus
/assist

and then all the slaves use [@focustarget] in their cast macros.

The above macro makes sure that a living character is the controlling one at all times, and is perfect both for PVE and PVP (I do WG a lot) and allows for fast switching of master by simply moving your mouse to the next living toon in a specific order (In my case it's Master (main screen), then the 4 slaves on the 2nd screen in order top left, top right, bottom left, bottom right.
The /assist I have in there as a utility, for instance if I want to ress someone with a slave, just target with master, hit the button and then hit the hotkey for that slave's ress etc etc..

As long as you use the characters names, they do not have to be grouped up with eachother. In fact, I often end up in two different raids, and 5 separate groups when I go to WG, but it makes absolutely no difference, other than annoyance for not having a good overview over health etc, but Jamba takes care of that for me. :)

Edit: Why the /clearfocus at the start of your macro? if your slaves currently have a focus target, they will simply switch to the new one when ordered..

[valle2000]

I tried your macro and (just like my macro) it only works when in a group. If trying the macro while all my toons are not in a group my slaves just keep saying 'I have no target'.

[gbremset]

I don't see how that can be..

Here's the macro I'm currently using, and this one is being used in Wintergrasp too..

/target [target=Eothera,nodead]; [target=Eothina,nodead]; [target=Eothine,nodead]; [target=Eosanna,nodead]; [target=Eothera]
/follow
/focus
/assist

OBS.. I forgot to put in the semicolons in the macro I posted earlier.. Those semicolons are vital..

[valle2000]

okay, I'll try again.
One question, why do you repeat and state your toon1 again at the end?

Edit: It it that last [target=toonname] which makes it work outside a group I just discovered. :)
Those with parameter nodead needs a group to work.

[Owltoid]

I could be mistaken, but if you're not in the same raid/group then you cannot use the focus based system. This is usually only a problem in WG when your toons may be split up.

Any reason you're staying with focus based instead of FTL?

[gbremset]

lol.. I use the above macro for all my groups (with different names of course), and I use it ungrouped, grouped, raids etc.. I have geared up both my level 80 teams using wintergrasp, so I know it works.
And the macro targets a named character, so it doesn't really matter if it's in a group or not.. You can run around in Dalaran, spamming a macro that says /target [target=idiot] /focus and if someone should show up in Dal with a toon called "idiot", your toon will both target it, and focus on it... :)


The "nodead" modifier I use so that the toons will actually switch leader if the current master is dead but not released (I don't release until all 5 are dead if I can avoid it) and the repeating of the "toon1" at the end of the macro, is because when they are all dead, the "nodead" modifier will break the macro..

So the concept behind the macro is this:

button pressed, check if toon 1 is alive, and follow/focus/assist him, if he is dead, check if toon 2 is alive and follow/focus/assist him, if 2 is dead, then check 3, if 3 is dead, check 4, if 4 is dead, then 5 is most likely dead too, so follow the ghost of toon 1.

[valle2000]

I could be mistaken, but if you're not in the same raid/group then you cannot use the focus based system. This is usually only a problem in WG when your toons may be split up.

Any reason you're staying with focus based instead of FTL?
Sorry for being stupid :) but what is FTL?

[alcattle]

Sorry for being stupid :) but what is FTL?
Stands for Focusless Targetless Leaderless or For The Loss :)

[valle2000]

Okay, is that something specific for isboxer? (I don't use that).

[Khatovar]

http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=10968&highlight=Focusless+Targetless+Leaderless

http://www.dual-boxing.com/wiki/index.php/Focusless_Targetless_Leaderless_Setup

[Maxion]

I could be mistaken, but if you're not in the same raid/group then you cannot use the focus based system. This is usually only a problem in WG when your toons may be split up.

Any reason you're staying with focus based instead of FTL?

If my toons ever get split into two raids in wg I leave the raid on the ones in the full raid and get them invited to the other one.

[valle2000]

http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=10968&highlight=Focusless+Targetless+Leaderless

http://www.dual-boxing.com/wiki/index.php/Focusless_Targetless_Leaderless_Setup

So e.g. Keyclone is needed. A question, I currently use hotkeynet to also use clickable buttons to send key strokes to my slaves; can this be done with Keyclone as well?

(And no, I can't switch to a "use the keyboard" play style because I'm disabled and can't use my left arm during play. That is why I need clickable action bars).

[Khatovar]

So e.g. Keyclone is needed.

Keyclone is NOT needed. The very first section of the wiki page I posted are links to threads on how to set it up via in HotKeyNet and ISBoxer.

[valle2000]

lol... okay, thanks. I scrolled down to fast.

[SideWays]

Delete <.<

[valle2000]

A question. Does this mean e.g. each toon require four follow macros, since it can follow four different masters? And the modifier keys will trigger the right one of these?

[Maxion]

A question. Does this mean e.g. each toon require four follow macros, since it can follow four different masters? And the modifier keys will trigger the right one of these?

They all go into the same macro.

[valle2000]

They all go into the same macro.
So if I have a follow macro bound to F1, will that same macro be executed also when shift+F1 or ctrl+F1 are being transmitted to that window?

[Maxion]

How FTL works is that in the macro, you make it follow different people depending on which modifiers are being held down, and as long as you don't have those key combinations bound anywhere else, the macro will do the different versions depending on the combination of modifier keys you are currently sending it while hitting the key.

[valle2000]

Yes, I tried it out yesterday and managed to get all chars follow anyone of the five. Great! :)

However, one more question. If I continue buildning my entire teams with this my toon's names will be mentioned in A LOT of macros making it very complicated if I want to switch a char. E.g. I have a group with pally + 4 hunters, but when playing dungeons I sometimes replace a hunter with a priest or a druid. This will be more complicated compared to a focus based setup, or?

[Maxion]

Yes, I tried it out yesterday and managed to get all chars follow anyone of the five. Great! :)

However, one more question. If I continue buildning my entire teams with this my toon's names will be mentioned in A LOT of macros making it very complicated if I want to switch a char. E.g. I have a group with pally + 4 hunters, but when playing dungeons I sometimes replace a hunter with a priest or a druid. This will be more complicated compared to a focus based setup, or?

FTL will always be more complicated than a focus based setup.
Though Jamba or ISboxer can set up FTl for you.

Personally I use a focus setup for all my multiboxing. So I can easily just set my characters' focus to who ever I want the leader to be (no focus on leader, so their macros know they are the leader).

[Sam DeathWalker]

Thank goodness I don't have to go through all this.

All my macros are set by name to my tank.

If anyone can kill my tank with 22 healers on him then they can win.

I just play guys one at a time if the tank dies (and I cant rez him or get him back from the gy fast enough) untill everyone dies. Or I just do AOE"s that dont need a target.

Also a dead character can still target for the others, kinda hard but its possible by turning the view.

[gbremset]

I prefer a focus based setup too.. I have 5 monitors for my boxing setup (when I do the heavier stuff like WG or heroics) so changing toons is easy no matter what (2 computers chained using InputDirector)

It also makes it easier to change leader etc, since I switch around my teams alot for guild raids etc..

Most interresting combo was priest healer, mage, hunter, boomkin and warlock dps, all macroed to follow the priest but attack the MT target. :)

[Simulacra]

I still use targettarget based macros and keyclone, works well in WG and instances. I started to use isboxer and thought about ftl, but for my needs kc and targettarget is good enough, haven't found anything I can't do without a little creativity in macros and perserverance.