New Talents Up

[Khatovar]

Latest talent builds up at MMOChampion (http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/). Lots of changes for Pallies, Warlocks and Warriors. Lots of stuff all around, so I'm not gonna do a copypasta.

Also already have blue posts for Paladins :


Linky (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26227192760&pageNo=1&sid=1#8)

There are no bonus Stamina talents. Prot paladins get +10% Stamina at level 10 for choosing Prot spec. We also cut the Spiritual Attunement mechanic and the "Improved Divine Plea" mechanic. Instead, Prot gets Judgement of the Wise (sans the raid Replenishment effect) as a passive, just like Ret. In essence, the melee paladins should rarely run out of mana, and if they do, they always have Divine Plea for emergencies.

Mana will still matter to them in the sense that if a Ret or Prot tries to be a healer or spam Consecrate, they'll blow through their bar more quickly than it will refill. But if they are using their normal attacks, mana should stay in a steady state.

(Note that Prot can still use Consecrate without spamming it by taking the long duration talent.)

Linky (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26227282693&pageNo=6&sid=1#117)

As clarification, Heart of the Crusader is cut. Judgements of the Wise is also cut as a talent. Instead, Ret and Prot generate mana on Judgement passively. Ret then has a 1 point talent to add Replenishment to that effect.

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Linky2 (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26227282693&sid=1&pageNo=7#128)

Judgements of the Wise. Incidentally, the Judgement of Wisdom mechanic no longer exists.

Both Ret and Prot will still have access to Divine Plea if needed for emergency mana, though we don't anticipate they will need to use it on cooldown.

[MiRai]

I HAVEN'T EVEN LOOKED AT THE LINK BUT I KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE ATROCIOUS! I HATE BLIZZARD, THEY KEEP RUINING MY MULTIBOXING LIFESTYLE WHEN THE GAME ISN'T EVEN BUILT AROUND IT! TOTALLY RUINING IT! I CANNOT BELIEVE THEY EXPECT ME TO ADAPT LIKE THIS, THIS IS UNHEARD OF! I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO CLICK THE LINK I'M JUST GOING TO CANCEL EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW!

I took it upon myself to post this so most of you don't have to. :)

[Eloxy]

I HAVEN'T EVEN LOOKED AT THE LINK BUT I KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE ATROCIOUS! I HATE BLIZZARD, THEY KEEP RUINING MY MULTIBOXING LIFESTYLE WHEN THE GAME ISN'T EVEN BUILT AROUND IT! TOTALLY RUINING IT! I CANNOT BELIEVE THEY EXPECT ME TO ADAPT LIKE THIS, THIS IS UNHEARD OF! I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO CLICK THE LINK I'M JUST GOING TO CANCEL EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW!

I took it upon myself to post this so most of you don't have to. :)

haha brilliant xD

[ZooljinX]

Cata will be awsome!

[alcattle]

Latest talent builds up at MMOChampion (http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/). Lots of changes for Pallies, Warlocks and Warriors. Lots of stuff all around, so I'm not gonna do a copypasta.

Also already have blue posts for Paladins :


Linky (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26227192760&pageNo=1&sid=1#8)

There are no bonus Stamina talents. Prot paladins get +10% Stamina at level 10 for choosing Prot spec. We also cut the Spiritual Attunement mechanic and the "Improved Divine Plea" mechanic. Instead, Prot gets Judgement of the Wise (sans the raid Replenishment effect) as a passive, just like Ret. In essence, the melee paladins should rarely run out of mana, and if they do, they always have Divine Plea for emergencies.

Mana will still matter to them in the sense that if a Ret or Prot tries to be a healer or spam Consecrate, they'll blow through their bar more quickly than it will refill. But if they are using their normal attacks, mana should stay in a steady state.

(Note that Prot can still use Consecrate without spamming it by taking the long duration talent.)

Linky (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26227282693&pageNo=6&sid=1#117)

As clarification, Heart of the Crusader is cut. Judgements of the Wise is also cut as a talent. Instead, Ret and Prot generate mana on Judgement passively. Ret then has a 1 point talent to add Replenishment to that effect.

...
Linky2 (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26227282693&sid=1&pageNo=7#128)

Judgements of the Wise. Incidentally, the Judgement of Wisdom mechanic no longer exists.

Both Ret and Prot will still have access to Divine Plea if needed for emergency mana, though we don't anticipate they will need to use it on cooldown.
Don't you mean MMO-Curse.com :)

[Holmeser]

It seems from these talents that they have changed Art Of War, the Talent in the latest talents: The Art of War (http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/53488/) is now a Tier 4 talent, down from Tier 3. It now has a 15/30% chance to proc from any melee attack (Old - 100% proc from Critical) and no longer reduce the casting time of Holy Light.

[Khatovar]

I HAVEN'T EVEN LOOKED AT THE LINK BUT I KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE ATROCIOUS! I HATE BLIZZARD, THEY KEEP RUINING MY MULTIBOXING LIFESTYLE WHEN THE GAME ISN'T EVEN BUILT AROUND IT! TOTALLY RUINING IT! I CANNOT BELIEVE THEY EXPECT ME TO ADAPT LIKE THIS, THIS IS UNHEARD OF! I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO CLICK THE LINK I'M JUST GOING TO CANCEL EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW!

I took it upon myself to post this so most of you don't have to. :)

/cower


Don't you mean MMO-Curse.com :)

MMOs are a Curse, aren't they? ;)

[Multibocks]

It seems from these talents that they have changed Art Of War, the Talent in the latest talents: The Art of War (http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/53488/) is now a Tier 4 talent, down from Tier 3. It now has a 15/30% chance to proc from any melee attack (Old - 100% proc from Critical) and no longer reduce the casting time of Holy Light.

Oh that's gonna change things! No more instant heals.

[Mosg2]

Huge change with the AoW stuff.

[Fat Tire]

If the AoW change goes thru I really feel for the pally teams.

I am hoping that its get reverted or baseline or something.

Currently shamans lost their instant Ghost Wolf AS- so I am also hoping that its becoming baseline for shamans.



Ancestral Swiftness is gone.

[Lyonheart]

If the AoW change goes thru I really feel for the pally teams.

I am hoping that its get reverted or baseline or something.

Currently shamans lost their instant Ghost Wolf AS- so I am also hoping that its becoming baseline for shamans.



Ancestral Swiftness is gone.

Im thinking insta GW will be baseline or a glyph.. medium maybe?

The AoW change sucks ass! My palies are only 61 atm but the insta heal worked into their rotation to heal the tank seems nice.

[Maxion]

At least divine storm might be able to heal for more now, at least on bigger pulls.

Also, warlocks still have a stamina talent.

[drevil]

more cc, more interrupts, more aoe .. terrific

[Firstcow]

I'm convinced more than ever that the only thing worth doing right now is either make a bunch of gold or level all classes x 5 to 80 before cata. I just need to decide if I should move to Alliance or not and then my journey to 50 chars at lvl 80 begins.

[ghonosyph]

Lol I'm planning on finishing off my 4 druids, then making my 5 priest team when cata comes out so they can be goblins :)
This way I will have 5 pallys 3 dks 5 druids and then 5 priests

Really no idea what I'll do after that. Perhaps I'll break down and make a few shamans as I still only have a couple at 48.

Cataclysm will be a whole new beast, but still not sure yet what I'll level first :)

[Fat Tire]

Ancestral Swiftness was not removed. Sorry for any confusion. It is still in the second tier of Enhancement, available to all.

Phew....