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Shodokan
06-26-2010, 04:08 PM
I can never seem to kill a team of disc priest with a destro lock if they are in wrathful gear. No matter which target i pick, silences and all i can't ever kill them, it's beyond frustrating. Including popping wings and attempting to CC them with hammers/repent.

If i trinket at the wrong time i'm dead period.

Firstcow
06-26-2010, 06:10 PM
I can never seem to kill a team of disc priest with a destro lock if they are in wrathful gear. No matter which target i pick, silences and all i can't ever kill them, it's beyond frustrating. Including popping wings and attempting to CC them with hammers/repent.

If i trinket at the wrong time i'm dead period.

Those are very sturdy classes, pick a different target and force them to go defensive, then switch target. Keep doing that until one cracks.

Shodokan
06-27-2010, 01:18 PM
Those are very sturdy classes, pick a different target and force them to go defensive, then switch target. Keep doing that until one cracks.

When they are camping the GY in WSG it's kinda hard.

remanz
06-27-2010, 02:55 PM
When they are camping the GY in WSG it's kinda hard.

Thought you talking about arena. Nothing goes down if you just stick to 1 target and let healers free heal. You don't interrupt that jucy holy light (whatever long heals they have), it is going to keep your target up.

fake pressure on the priest, instant grip the warlock over. Silence (strangulate the priest if possible)~. then pew pew (with wings if not enough gear). If no down, then you are truly not geared enough.

Shodokan
06-28-2010, 12:46 AM
Thought you talking about arena. Nothing goes down if you just stick to 1 target and let healers free heal. You don't interrupt that jucy holy light (whatever long heals they have), it is going to keep your target up.

fake pressure on the priest, instant grip the warlock over. Silence (strangulate the priest if possible)~. then pew pew (with wings if not enough gear). If no down, then you are truly not geared enough.

full relent + queldelar

and i do use strangulate / mind freeze / death grip.

Acidburning
06-28-2010, 01:39 AM
full relent + queldelar

and i do use strangulate / mind freeze / death grip.

add round robin arcane torrent?

are you saying when its 1 priest 1 lock vs your 4 rets 1 dk, you can't kill the priest?

remanz
06-28-2010, 03:39 PM
I can never seem to kill a team of disc priest with a destro lock if they are in wrathful gear. No matter which target i pick, silences and all i can't ever kill them, it's beyond frustrating. Including popping wings and attempting to CC them with hammers/repent.

If i trinket at the wrong time i'm dead period.


Well, they are in Wrathful. You are in relentless. Killing them won't be easy. Honestly, around 1400 resilience, killing anything won't be easy. The faceroll days are over as I see it. If you don't come up with some CC rotation, no kill.

disc priest + warlock + ??? I assume they got a second healer. If no second healer, just the priest himself, no way he lives through strangulate.

If 2nd healer is holy paladin, then I say you don't have much of a chance.

BrothelMeister
06-29-2010, 09:05 AM
Idk about that remanz, 2 healers should be fairly easy to interrupt with 4 repetences, 4 HoJ's, mind freeze and strangulate.

remanz
06-29-2010, 09:17 PM
well we are talking about tough match ups, intelligent opponents. Not the ones who bunched up together and let you multi hammer them for free.

Nobody would stand together. so really just repen and strangulate.

Not saying it is impossible but it requires some really good timing and really good precision here. It comes with steps.

1st, you have to see it. Both strangulate and repen require facing. You can apply them without watching the cast bars. That's a plus. But facing is still a problem. (With IWT madness, you don't know where you are facing)

2nd you have to execute multi target action here. Basically the DK you control is targeting the 1st healer for strangulate. And then your slaves are targeting the 2nd healer for repen. Some clever focus usage needed.

If it is that easy to control 2 healers, we be all 2200 ratings already. and the reason I mention paladin is that, he can just bubble and mad heal with bloodlust. There is nothing you can do about it. And the worst part is that he BOP your target too.

Firstcow
06-30-2010, 03:40 AM
well we are talking about tough match ups, intelligent opponents. Not the ones who bunched up together and let you multi hammer them for free.

Nobody would stand together. so really just repen and strangulate.

Not saying it is impossible but it requires some really good timing and really good precision here. It comes with steps.

1st, you have to see it. Both strangulate and repen require facing. You can apply them without watching the cast bars. That's a plus. But facing is still a problem. (With IWT madness, you don't know where you are facing)

2nd you have to execute multi target action here. Basically the DK you control is targeting the 1st healer for strangulate. And then your slaves are targeting the 2nd healer for repen. Some clever focus usage needed.

If it is that easy to control 2 healers, we be all 2200 ratings already. and the reason I mention paladin is that, he can just bubble and mad heal with bloodlust. There is nothing you can do about it. And the worst part is that he BOP your target too.

True dat :)

In theory everything seems easy until you actually try to do it :)

I never even bother with smart focus macros, just keep spamming repents and hammers each paladin on a different arena target and if it lands good, if it doesn't try again next game.

Fomeny
06-30-2010, 04:48 AM
My suggestion for cc that requires facing would be using about 3 buttons (Such as F1, F2, F3 for fast button presses)

(0. Leave a window open for a GCD)
F1. Target the specific arenatarget
F2. "Interact with Target"
F3. /cast "cc"

So, to cc you simply roll from F1 to F3 with 3 fingers.. Well, most likely easier said than done. But it's an idea ;)

BrothelMeister
06-30-2010, 09:17 AM
How do you manage your CC then Firstcow? You just cast the stuns, silences, and interupts on your main target? Or do you focus a healer and cast target=focus for the CCs ?

Maxion
06-30-2010, 01:55 PM
How do you manage your CC then Firstcow? You just cast the stuns, silences, and interupts on your main target? Or do you focus a healer and cast target=focus for the CCs ?

You can make macros to have each pally target a different person on the arena unitframe for their cc, assuming you want to try to cast on all of them at the same time

Shodokan
06-30-2010, 02:07 PM
You can make macros to have each pally target a different person on the arena unitframe for their cc, assuming you want to try to cast on all of them at the same time

And seperate macros in BGs for casting them on X assist target

Firstcow
06-30-2010, 02:59 PM
How do you manage your CC then Firstcow? You just cast the stuns, silences, and interupts on your main target? Or do you focus a healer and cast target=focus for the CCs ?

I have one macro for Repentance and one macro for stun.

/cast [target=arenaX] Repentance
/cast [target=arenaX] Hammer of Justice

Where X goes from 1 to 4 on each paladin.

And I keep spamming this together with the dps buttons.

Iceorbz
07-01-2010, 05:57 AM
I can never seem to kill a team of disc priest with a destro lock if they are in wrathful gear. No matter which target i pick, silences and all i can't ever kill them, it's beyond frustrating. Including popping wings and attempting to CC them with hammers/repent.

If i trinket at the wrong time i'm dead period.

As a priest for my main, I would be *VERY* suprised to see you get the jump on me especially as disc. Kromtor had the hardest time with priests, and they were his #1 and first target since they will mass dispell away all your dmg reduction.]
The smart thing I would think, would be to lead into a hungering cold, forcing a trinket on the priest, into arena stun, repent, and a arcane torrent. If hes not down by then -- well id call it game ;p. I think wings would play a big portion in penetrating the pain sup.