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Littleburst
06-22-2010, 05:28 PM
The achievement is somewhat broken. It was 20 seconds, now it's 14 which makes it close to impossible unless dalaran is empty and you're a lucky spambot. So people resort to click software, which is illegal obviously.

Even got it's own topic on achievements forums on wow-europe.com. An enjoyable convo from there:

Karuna: "For anyone worried about the program ( as i was initially) , just check my achievements and you'll see that i've just got the juggling one about half an hour before this post. I'm not a hacker, this program seems genuinely ok and the site it's downloaded from looks legit too.

Shadarknight: "It's also technically a bot program, so you ARE cheating, so enjoy not only your ban, but hopefully lose of the achievement.

(auto-clicking = you are not doing it yourself=botting) "

Karuna: "Even doing it like that probably took me 3-4 goes. If it's still hard with the program, there's something seriously messed up.
And pff, botting? Don't make me laugh, you're talking out of your arse. Technically? "

Shadarknight: "Ok, LITERALLY cheating, better? You're not doing the mouse clicks yourself, thus it's botting. "

Karuna: "Mate, not only does you opinion not matter in the slightest, you 99% don't know what you're talking about,, but I also consider your wishing for me to lose the achievement and get my account banned to be pretty damn despicable. Go away and darken someone else's life."

Shadarknight: "So... wanting a cheater to be banned is despicable now?"
Felt like sharing ;)

Souca
06-22-2010, 05:33 PM
I didn't try the achievement last night because I thought I had to have 40 torches. I'm not looking forward to it today after reading a similar thread (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25482050142&sid=1) on the us forums. A lot of people there resorted to using automated solutions like macro keyboards and still reported it taking hours. There were also some good posts talking about how their logs showed them creating 5 torches, but only getting 3 counted toward the achievement. Additionally it seems the first torch starts the counter, but doesn't count toward it. People tested this by tossing one to themselves while tracking the achievement.

I just hope the maint crew is able to get the server juggling achievement soon.

- Souca -

Fiddlesticks
06-22-2010, 06:19 PM
I found a post on multiboxingdotcom through google (I don't go to the site, I just found it funny that google popped it up).

The post was made by Ualaa about something completely different from this achievement, and it helped me get it.

Basically there is a script command to have your ; key mimic the left click of a mouse.. which for me.. helped a ton.

/script SetBinding(";", "CAMERAORSELECTORMOVE")

Aenar
06-22-2010, 06:50 PM
I found that the second round (first reset) for the achievement worked best for my guys. I think some torches are still in the air at that point... so burn through the first try as fast as you can, but keep going thru the 2nd timer if you miss the first. Odd side effect, on 4 of the 5 wow clients, the character's screen crashed when the achievement popped up. Had to log each one back in game after they got the achievement. Oh, and the torches aren't bop, so just hang onto 20 or so and pass them around til all 5 got the achievement. Was the last achievement last night I needed for 5x Flame Warden.

jinkobi
06-22-2010, 07:16 PM
I did it last night and it isn't too rough to accomplish. If you're Alliance head to the Beer Garden behind the Inn and there's never anyone around. When I did it I used 40 torches because they're tradeable, easy to get, and didn't want to take any chances :D

Put the torch on your hotbar then click your mouse+hotkey like a crazed monkey on crack.

Starbuck_Jones
06-22-2010, 07:31 PM
Took about an hour for me to get it. I used the setcamaeraormove thing. Had that for a long time with my druids and using treants and hurricane. But I combined it with a /click so I just had to hammer one button. Still took around an hour to get it done. Just luck. 28-36 torches a few spikes to 38-39 then poof, randomly got it.

Blizzard owes me a new keyboard.

Souca
06-23-2010, 12:00 AM
Okay, things to keep in mind, it takes 4 seconds for a torch to go from thrown to caught. Because of this you stand a better chance of getting it on the second timer since torches in the air count toward the achievement even if they were thrown in a previous timer period. Without doing this in a two timer mode, you'd need to toss and catch 40 torches in 11 seconds.

If you are having trouble getting it done, you might want to try a different key as the rebound speed of the physical key can become the limiting factor in getting this achievement since you need a key click rate of 2.6 clicks per second.

- Souca -

Blacky_Chan
06-23-2010, 09:27 PM
It's really easy took me 2 tries just go to a secluded spot mouse over yourself have the torches set as one of your keys and start spamming.

Souca
06-24-2010, 04:54 AM
This has been hotfixed. The timer doesn't start until you catch the first torch now.

- Souca -

Ughmahedhurtz
06-24-2010, 10:43 AM
Closest I can get with normal (putting torch on hotkey and clicking mousebutton to toss it) is 30/40 before the timer runs out. What a PITA. Gonna have to try the cameraorselectormove thing tonight.

jinkobi
06-24-2010, 11:24 AM
Closest I can get with normal (putting torch on hotkey and clicking mousebutton to toss it) is 30/40 before the timer runs out. What a PITA. Gonna have to try the cameraorselectormove thing tonight.


You guys doing it 1 character at a time or trying to multibox this puppy? Doing it with mouse repeater would probably just be too laggy. Did mine 1 by 1 and got it pretty quickly on all my guys. You might only need 15 torches but why not go ahead and get 40 just to make it easier. Then you can trade the torches to each toon.

All I did was put my torch on the hotbar positioned my camera for an overhead view. Then it's just press the # mouse click press the # mouse click as fast as you can :eek: Don't blame me for any broken mice or keyboards- almost broke my trackball doing this thing, lol.

Littleburst
06-24-2010, 12:15 PM
You don't need more then 10 torches, because you'll notice that the amount of torches in your bags will never get even close to zero. So there's not much gain in getting 40 torches.

I got the achievement eventually, by binding scroll to 1 and 2, the torches x 2. Then spam scroll and mouse button. Did require an empty dalaran to get it. around 23:15 game time i couldn't do it. Had an average of 28..... But next day around 16:00 i got it within a min.

Ughmahedhurtz
06-24-2010, 03:45 PM
/script SetBinding(";", "CAMERAORSELECTORMOVE")That worked. Thanks for the reminder. ;)