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Jafula
05-19-2010, 02:47 AM
http://www.wowarmory.com/wow-remote.xml

Seems pretty sweet, something else to do while travelling...

Hivetyrant
05-19-2010, 02:55 AM
Of particular note:


What is World of Warcraft Remote?
World of Warcraft Remote is an upcoming subscription-based service that will allow World of Warcraft players to buy and sell items on the Auction House through the upcoming World of Warcraft Remote Auction House website or the World of Warcraft Mobile Armory app for mobile devices. The World of Warcraft Remote Auction House is currently undergoing beta testing; for the duration of the beta-test period, players can try out and test the premium-based features (including making purchases and posting items for sale) of the Remote Auction House without a subscription to World of Warcraft Remote.So if anyone can test it out for free, we should be able to see how useful it is.

EDIT: I managed to get the update, will post after I test it out!
EDIT EDIT: Apaprently Frostmourne isn't included in the beta test :(

David
05-19-2010, 03:15 AM
Paying for something that offers something extra which gives an advantage. Blizz starts with payed content that offers and edge over others.

RobinGBrown
05-19-2010, 03:40 AM
Doomed, doomed, we're all doomed.

End sarcasm

I hope they (Blizzard) are going to take care eliminating potential exploits as this is the first tiem they've allowed anything other than 'read only' access to the game data. I can see a few people developing apps to make money off the auction house.

Daeri
05-19-2010, 03:52 AM
Before everyone complains, be aware this service will be limited to 200 transactions per day. So don't expect to control the glyph or gem market from work :P

For those who can't access the beta, mmo -champion has published several screenshots of both iphone and web remote AH : http://www.mmo-champion.com/news-2/introducing-the-remote-auction-house/

daviddoran
05-19-2010, 04:36 AM
Well this will suck for people trying to move gold cross factions using the neutral auction house. Normally the way to do it is to stake out all the neutral AHs and only move gold/items when nobody else is near a neutral auctioneer. I'm not sure if people using the mobile AH will have their character actually standing infront of an auctioneer, or if it will just happen on the back end. I definately will NOT be paying for it, but i might try it out. It just seems like it will be very tedious, and only useful when you are away from your PC for an extended period of time, and if thats the case you probably shouldnt be thinking about wow...

Stabface
05-19-2010, 04:39 AM
Might open up some interesting market analytical tools, if you can use it to scan the AH. I mean I scan once or twice a day, but I'd have a much better idea of what's going on if I wrote a little python script to scan it every few minutes.

It would also be kind of fun to use it to buy gems/enchants in the middle of a raid after you got a new item, and toss down your engy mailbox to retrieve the stuff. Or if you need to change glyphs or something.

HPAVC
05-19-2010, 07:05 AM
The $3.00 is pretty good. Some issues like character switching, banking, and multi server will be worth it.

Lyonheart
05-19-2010, 12:33 PM
Looks like you can access the AH on ANY account/character thats tied to your BN Account!

Another reason I'm glad I had all my accounts tied to ONE BN account!

Ellay
05-19-2010, 12:56 PM
They keeping expanding on the game... have to give them credit.

EaTCarbS
05-19-2010, 01:31 PM
/sigh...

kate
05-19-2010, 01:58 PM
200 transactions (however they define that) per day, presumably per $3.00 subscription. If you have multiple battle.net accounts you'd need to buy multiple subscriptions to expand the capability.

This seems like it'll be really great for people who want to do a little trading, but not for the AH barons who do thousands of transactions a day.

What I'm excited about will be the inevitable sites that scan every auction house constantly and then export that data for people to use with tools like auctioneer and other stats analysis packages - it should be quite an interesting side of the game.

kadaan
05-19-2010, 01:58 PM
It would also be kind of fun to use it to buy gems/enchants in the middle of a raid after you got a new item, and toss down your engy mailbox to retrieve the stuff. Or if you need to change glyphs or something.

You have to be logged out of the game to use it on that character. You also need to be logged out of the AH to log in to WoW with the character. I'm not 100% sure if you can be browing the AH while playing a separate character on the same WoW account though.

The transactions/day limit does seem like it will prevent most abuse, as if you have some automated script to scan/buy/sell it won't run very long before hitting the cap. You also need to have a character that actually shows up on the armory in order to use it (level 10+).

For transferring via Neutral AH, it's not really an issue for boxers since we can list on one account and buyout almost instantly on the second account. Besides, with Neutral AH's in multiple places (BB, Gadgetzan, Everlook... maybe Ratchet?) it's not that easy to check and see if anyone is physically camping them either. I'm not sure if they have throttling to how fast you can perform searches through the web, but I wouldn't be surprised if they did.

I'm not really sure what kind of advantage this gives anyone. You can have WoW open in the background 24/7, or you can leave WoW closed and check it via a browser/phone. The only 'advantages' I think of would be you can list directly from your bank/mailbox, it saves a few trips from the AH -> mailbox, and you don't have to run to a major city. Most people I know rarely use the AH anyway other than buying gems/enchants.

It's bnet account-wide, so a single $3 fee in addition to 5x subscriptions isn't much at all. You can easily change between characters, servers, and wow accounts. Doesn't require logging out/in and running to a city. I don't see myself using it every day and it's definitely not a replacement for Auctioneer, unless someone writes a web-based Auctioneer frontend to the web AH...

coglistings
05-19-2010, 02:00 PM
hmmm, anyone know where they list realms that are participating?

MiRai
05-19-2010, 02:03 PM
hmmm, anyone know where they list realms that are participating?
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=24915154220&sid=1 (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=24915154220&sid=1)

Souca
05-19-2010, 04:31 PM
It's one of the smallest battlegroups in the Seattle datacenter. I have soem chars on Maiev and it was an almost dead server. My guess is it allows them to test in a smaller enviornment and for a lower hardware upgrade cost when they are still tweaking software and might need to buy more than they would once things are optimized. Rather smart actually. Only downside is if they don't get an accurate picture of what a hectic battlegroup will do to the system, but they'll figure that out eventually ;)

- Souca -

Blacky_Chan
05-19-2010, 07:29 PM
Of particular note:

So if anyone can test it out for free, we should be able to see how useful it is.

EDIT: I managed to get the update, will post after I test it out!
EDIT EDIT: Apaprently Frostmourne isn't included in the beta test :(
Another Frostmourne player =D alli or horde?

Ualaa
05-19-2010, 07:44 PM
Buying and selling is one thing.
But can your toon retrieve an item from a mailbox, and relist?
For that matter, can you run something like Quick Auctions or Auctioneer?

kadaan
05-19-2010, 09:30 PM
Buying and selling is one thing.
But can your toon retrieve an item from a mailbox, and relist?
For that matter, can you run something like Quick Auctions or Auctioneer?

You can see all the items in your bank/mailbox/inventory, and there's no difference between the three for selling through the web. I tried to dig into the xml on the web, but a lot of it is loaded dynamically so it'll be a lot harder to write scripts to automate buying/selling than it is to simply scrape profiles.

kate
05-19-2010, 11:43 PM
Buying and selling is one thing.
But can your toon retrieve an item from a mailbox, and relist?
For that matter, can you run something like Quick Auctions or Auctioneer?


I guarantee that there will be sites that scan the AH for every server, both factions + neutral. I also guarantee that there will be web apps developed to let people do things ala auctionator or any other addon. I can't actually think of a way that, if they open this up to the web, you *wouldn't* see such things pop into existence.

The auction tools we have now are limited by what the in-game addons can do. Remember - out of game addons will be able to use "if...then" logic and take actions, while in-game addons aren't nearly as capable. This should be fun!

Hivetyrant
05-19-2010, 11:59 PM
Another Frostmourne player =D alli or horde?
All us sensible boxxers are Horde :D

OzPhoenix
05-20-2010, 10:21 AM
All us sensible boxxers are Horde :D

Truth.

Also, looks like I'll either need to level my level1 Auction Alt up to 10, or replace him him with a DK.

drevil
05-20-2010, 12:24 PM
this will have major 4 impacts

- lots!! of ah bots
- snipers -> no more cheap deals
- raw mats go up
- professions go down

thefunk
05-20-2010, 01:25 PM
I can't wait when they automatically charge use of /2

Hivetyrant
05-20-2010, 06:18 PM
I can't wait when they automatically charge use of /2
Considering some of the hilarious crap that goes on in my /2, I would almost consider paying for the privelidge of reading it at work!

kate
05-20-2010, 08:47 PM
Might open up some interesting market analytical tools, if you can use it to scan the AH. I mean I scan once or twice a day, but I'd have a much better idea of what's going on if I wrote a little python script to scan it every few minutes.

It would also be kind of fun to use it to buy gems/enchants in the middle of a raid after you got a new item, and toss down your engy mailbox to retrieve the stuff. Or if you need to change glyphs or something.

There will be websites that exist entirely to provide scan data and some analysis, guaranteed.

kadaan
05-21-2010, 01:47 PM
There will be websites that exist entirely to provide scan data and some analysis, guaranteed.

They already do, they'll just be more accurate now :).

Myc
05-21-2010, 02:17 PM
Considering some of the hilarious crap that goes on in my /2, I would almost consider paying for the privelidge of reading it at work!


one problem... 12 year olds wont be able to convince their moms to pay for it..
thus... the trade char would be empty ZOMG O.o