Why no major PVE MB server

[lacitpo]

I can understand people's love for PVP. However a few of us don't care for it, and don't care to be on a PVP server. Was wondering whether the lack of an 'official' PVE multiboxing server is due to lack of people who multibox on PVE servers or lack of organization.

Maybe I just totally missed it as well. Is there one? I'm US, not EU.

[Svpernova09]

I can understand people's love for PVP. However a few of us don't care for it, and don't care to be on a PVP server. Was wondering whether the lack of an 'official' PVE multiboxing server is due to lack of people who multibox on PVE servers or lack of organization.

Maybe I just totally missed it as well. Is there one? I'm US, not EU.

There never really has been one. We had.... 4 or 5 or more boxers on Madoran at one point, but all of us bailed that shittastic server and fled to Kil'Jaeden. I think the main this is most boxers that are on PvE servers are pretty tied to their friends / guilds, so none of them have really migrated to one place.

[Redbeard]

I would prefer to be on PVE but went where the people were...

If you think there should be one then youll have to attempt to foster your own community there, as Fur, Svper and LOB have done on KJ.

[Mercurio]

I think I might prefer a PvE server as well, but all my friends rolled on an alliance PvP server at WoW launch, then I went to Magtheridon as a PvP hordie based on other boxers, and most recently to KJ (ally PvP).

But for me, it doesn't make any difference. I've leveled up a team from 70 to 80 and have been on most days over the last 3 months, and I think I've been involved in PvP maybe twice in those three months. I totally ignore all the "enemies" on the server and can typically just kill them if they attack me (as a boxer almost no one messes with me).

[Coltimar]

We have the premiere PVE Daytime Raiding Guild. We are on Doomhammer US. It's just me and Nighthawke so far but we pretty much have our niche sewn up!

[daviddoran]

The difference is so small, I don't see much of an issue. and if I'm questing in an area, an theres horde nearby, its nice to be able to nuke them rather than wait for an NPC to respawn.

[Ualaa]

Well.. I'd assume most PvE players are in a similar situation to me.

I chose Cenarius, because the majority of my friends who were quitting Everquest had decided on this server. Most of them don't play anymore, but I've made new friends who are here on this server. So, while I'm not opposed to playing with other boxers, I don't really want to leave my server either.

The other consideration, I have 30 odd toons who I use for gold generation, and that many server transfers would be prohibitive, even if all my friends decided to move to another server too.

[HPAVC]

Most pve attempts seem to be established guilds with some members that are multiboxing. So xfering to the server doesn't mean your in the guild. So you and the other people that might xfer or reroll are sort of marginalized.

Hopefully battlenet 2 makes this mostly obsolete.

[OogaJiggaWooga]

There just seems to be an inherent lack of enthusiasm for server transferring to a single PVE server to meet the needs of PVE boxing - people feel comfortable with their current server, or get discouraged about moving after having experienced the ever shifting boxing population (let's face it, most of us go through periods where we are sick of the attention or effort boxing takes and just want to do something different). It's not fun to move to a server for the community just to have everyone disappear.

The other issue (affecting aussie boxers at least) is the latency issues with moving to particular servers. I attempted to box on Magtheridon at one point because of the great community, and had to abandon my characters because I could never get better than 500ms latency. Now I have moved to Caelestrasz (PVE) and am loving the environment and people that I know there, so I would be reluctant to shift a bunch of characters off even to another server in the same data centre.

Cael also has an emerging boxing community; still too few of us to be able to schedule big things often or reliably, but there have been periods of great fun and activity.

[OzPhoenix]

Ayup - another 5-boxing Cael resident here as well. I think we have 4 or 5 regular 5-boxers on our happy little Oceanic realm now, so if you're Aussie and looking to move, drop a line in the "CaelMB" channel.

[lacitpo]

Bout what I expected. It's difficult to move away from what you know and like other's said, many are established in some sort of guild.

[HPAVC]

I too have no interest in pvp, that said I have to say that so far my reroll on KJ isn't bad, I am leveling as a group versus some twinking or boosting there, two groups of 5. While I would normally do a whole lot more questing there is little real difference.

I started out on pvp server and I really wasn't fun (though it was my first 60 and i was holy priest), I have to say it was much worse than this on many levels (real boat camping jerks). With the dungeon queue and the Dal portals, epic mounts its not a big deal. While a simple holy nova spamming priest can decimate my guys now, much less a attack from fan of knives, shadowfur, living bomb, etc ... (yeah that is pretty cool to one shot 5guys ... once) soon that will change a bit.

Maybe once a day I get camped hard and about twice a day I get beat up a bit. Sometimes I run into someone my level that is questing and they attack me solo, I have no idea wtf is going on with those people. Other than people that attack me I leave folks alone.

I am sure crafting and various achievements are issues, I won't get getting Nether drakes on these characters for example. And it seems a lot of the encounters with 80s I run into are people likely on mining routes.

[daviddoran]

I really dont think there's that big of a difference. And once you are 80 and decently geared, theres no way a single enemy player is going to kill you. Maybe get one of your guys down, but thats it. With cata we have a gear reset coming, so it should help anyone who is leveling now and/or recently hit 80. I honestly love being able to take out horde. If im doing a quest, and theres horde killing the quest mobs, being able to kill them helps me do the quest faster.

Plus, if someone gets camped really bad on KJ, often other boxers (often myself included) will being over our geared pvp boxing teams (i call mine the shaman death squad when doing world pvp) and annihilate the horde, and camp their town for hours.

[Littleburst]

I think the main problem is, that most people who box, do it for a good reason. If they want pve raiding, they can join guild X and raid 2-5 evenings a week. The problem we face in Gimp is that it's hard to get enough people online on a set date/time.

I don't want to be tied down to a certain raidtime really. And it seems other boxers in Gimp feel the same way. Aoe and Howsterd managed to 2man icc first 4 bosses. Props to them /clap. But even that doesn't seems planned. I'm not sure though. So i just think boxers don't have the mindset to do planned constructive raiding. (excluding exeptions ofc.)

[Nejcha]

Feathermoon is an RP server... we've got a few multiboxers. Also a support channel, and multiboxer raid groups... n' such.

Should I say I've asked for us to be listed in the multi boxing friendly guilds a couple times... Never happens though.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

I think the main this is most boxers that are on PvE servers are pretty tied to their friends / guilds, so none of them have really migrated to one place.Pretty much this, in a nutshell.

[Svpernova09]

Feathermoon is an RP server... we've got a few multiboxers. Also a support channel, and multiboxer raid groups... n' such.

Should I say I've asked for us to be listed in the multi boxing friendly guilds a couple times... Never happens though.

The multiboxing friendly guilds thread is kind of a huge train wreck of a thread, that's why I never did anything with it. The only guilds listed their are the original ones because my original intent was to focus large groups of boxers to servers. The tread quickly turned into "I box, in my guild, on my server, look me up" which servers absolutely no purpose because people don't read through that entire thread, they go find the who & where wiki page (which is even more out of date). So please don't take offense that anything in that thread isn't acted upon.