Advice requested on using ISBoxer and Keyclone together

[Rusty]

I'm hoping someone here can point me in the right direction. I have used both ISBoxer and Keyclone extensively in the past, but am returning after 6 months away and don't know how the feature set has changed. Considering both programs:

Keyclone
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Pro: I love how simple it is to create white lists or blacklists, which can then be used across multiple combinations of toons
Con: I just played around with it now, and can't figure out how to make PnP swap characters across two screens. I don't seem to have the option to assign PnP keys either. Further, no combination of battle.net email or wow email seems to be remembered, though I do have different config.wtf files for the two accounts.

ISBoxer
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Pro: screen swapping PnP was flawless last time I used it, especially the scaling of each window.
Con: setting up all the keys required between different sets of toons was a huge PITA. I just can't do that again, considering all I want to do this time is have one toon follow another around in level questing, no raiding etc.

So two questions:
1) Does ISBoxer have a simple white/black list yet?
2) Has anyone tried using both programs simultaneously? ISBoxer for pic n' pic, and keyclone for keyboard rules and mousing?

[Ualaa]

You can use a whitelist/blacklist with IS Boxer, and go with Repeater On, as your default setting.
I'd advise against this.

There's basically nothing which KC does, which you cannot do with ISBoxer.
If you have both programs, I cannot see a reason to use KC...

I would run with Repeater Off, and Keymaps On, as your default behavior.
That way, anything which is the hotkey for a mapped key does something (acts as if its White Listed).
And anything which is not a hotkey for a mapped key does not broadcast (is effectively Black Listed).

Mapped Keys get you a lot of options, particularly in targeting.
Some common options:
- Window: Current
- Window: All Without Current
- Window: All With Current
- Target: Action Target Group
An ATG (Action Target Group) is a predefined group, which can be whatever you want.
You can even set up hotkeys to add or remove toons from ATG's on the fly.

You'll likely go (R = Repeater, K = Keymaps):
R: On, K: Off - To enter your password, to have the toons all /dance.
R: Off, K: Off - To chat in guild, or trade.
R: Off, K: On - For 99% of your general playing of the game.
R: On, K: On - For quick mouse broadcasting, such as clicking accept to change your bind point or clicking a portal with all toons at once.



If you really don't want to set up mapped keys...
You can go with a black/white list.

[Rusty]

ISBoxer is definitely powerful, no question. For serious 5 boxing, or dungeon crawling, I'd go with it for sure.

It might be too powerful for what I want this time though. Thought I'd just play on my main, and drag one other toon along with me to pick up quests, and likely map 6-12 of their top powers to G-keys; nothing fancy. Last time I used ISBoxer, I had to set up the names of the toons, assign them to action groups, assign key mappings to each action group etc. It got out of hand when I was trying to run 3 pairs of leveling toons, plus combinations where a lvl80 would help a lowbie. I had more mapped key combinations than I could handle!

My Innerspace subscription has run out, but I guess I could renew it and see how it goes with repeater.

[Ualaa]

The wizard gets you... Alt + F = follow.

If you press 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 0, -, =... then the slaves assist you first, then press the same key as you did.

You can enable auto follow, on a toon switch.
Or strobe follow.
Or manually do the follow on the switch.

If you stick with the defaults, its about a minute to make a team.