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Schwarz
01-17-2008, 12:03 AM
For 5 shamen what is better the orc racial or the troll racial? I am torn between faster casts or more spell damage. Any Ideas?

unionjack
01-17-2008, 12:38 AM
orcs get the 15% resist to stun which is awesome

Ughmahedhurtz
01-17-2008, 01:23 AM
The troll racial is almost universally loathed as being near useless comparably. I can't recall why but I'm sure you could run a search on the wow forums via google's "site:worldofwarcraft.com troll shaman racial" syntax and get some pretty interesting results.

Squiggoth
01-17-2008, 08:59 AM
Depends on PvE or PvP. In my most humble opinion:

PvP: Orc > Tauren > Troll (stun resist > warstomp > berserk AGGHH)

PvE: Tauren > Orc > Troll (+Hit points > stun resist > berserk AGGHH)

Thxuuuuu

Shogun
01-17-2008, 09:05 AM
Depends on PvE or PvP. In my most humble opinion:

PvP: Orc > Tauren > Troll (stun resist > warstomp > berserk AGGHH)

PvE: Tauren > Orc > Troll (+Hit points > stun resist > berserk AGGHH)

Thxuuuuu

No one's mentioned the other Orc racial so far...


Orc

Blood Fury
Activate to increase attack power and spell damage/healing by an amount based on level/class for 15 seconds, and decreases healing done to the user by 50% for 25 seconds. The cooldown is 2 minutes.

Hardiness
Increase resistance to stun effects by 15%.

Command
Pet melee damage increased by 5%.

Axe Specialization
Increases expertise with axes and two-handed axes by 1% as of Patch 2.3 (was increase Axe skill by 5).

Tauren

War Stomp
Activate to stun opponents - Stuns up to 5 enemies within the area for 2 seconds. 2 minute cooldown.

Endurance
Max Health increased by 5%.

Cultivation
15 point skill bonus to Herbalism (note, this also raises the cap by 15 at each level of herbalism).

Nature Resistance
Increase Nature Resistance by 10.

Troll

Berserking
Activate to increase attack and casting speed for 10 seconds. Speed is raised by 10% at full health, increasing as health is lost to a maximum bonus of 30%. 3 minute cooldown.
Costs 10 Energy, 5 Rage, or 7% of base mana.

Regeneration
Increase health regeneration bonus by 10%. Also allows 10% of normal health regen during combat.

Beast Slaying
5% damage bonus to Beasts.

Throwing Weapon Specialization
Increases chance to critically hit with Throwing Weapon by 1% as of Patch 2.3 (was increase Throwing Weapon skill by 5).

Bow Specialization
Increase Bow critical strike chance by 1%.

Blood Fury is basicaly a free +spell damage trinket. Great for both PvE/PvP

Fear The Wrath
01-17-2008, 09:14 AM
Depends on PvE or PvP. In my most humble opinion:

PvP: Orc > Tauren > Troll (stun resist > warstomp > berserk AGGHH)

PvE: Tauren > Orc > Troll (+Hit points > stun resist > berserk AGGHH)

Thxuuuuu

No one's mentioned the other Orc racial so far...


Orc

Blood Fury
Activate to increase attack power and spell damage/healing by an amount based on level/class for 15 seconds, and decreases healing done to the user by 50% for 25 seconds. The cooldown is 2 minutes.

Hardiness
Increase resistance to stun effects by 15%.

Command
Pet melee damage increased by 5%.

Axe Specialization
Increases expertise with axes and two-handed axes by 1% as of Patch 2.3 (was increase Axe skill by 5).

Tauren

War Stomp
Activate to stun opponents - Stuns up to 5 enemies within the area for 2 seconds. 2 minute cooldown.

Endurance
Max Health increased by 5%.

Cultivation
15 point skill bonus to Herbalism (note, this also raises the cap by 15 at each level of herbalism).

Nature Resistance
Increase Nature Resistance by 10.

Troll

Berserking
Activate to increase attack and casting speed for 10 seconds. Speed is raised by 10% at full health, increasing as health is lost to a maximum bonus of 30%. 3 minute cooldown.
Costs 10 Energy, 5 Rage, or 7% of base mana.

Regeneration
Increase health regeneration bonus by 10%. Also allows 10% of normal health regen during combat.

Beast Slaying
5% damage bonus to Beasts.

Throwing Weapon Specialization
Increases chance to critically hit with Throwing Weapon by 1% as of Patch 2.3 (was increase Throwing Weapon skill by 5).

Bow Specialization
Increase Bow critical strike chance by 1%.

Blood Fury is basicaly a free +spell damage trinket. Great for both PvE/PvP

definately! /agree

BUT you guys might wanna roll trolls... you will need the extra 5% beast slaying when fighting me! haha jkjk i sucksss....

Squiggoth
01-17-2008, 11:30 AM
I wouldn't count on it as a free +spell dmg. More like a free +spell dmg -heal. In PvP that's not great.