Celestial Steed and Lil'XT

[Fat Tire]

http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2010/april/lilxtcelestial_small.jpg

According to the Blizzard store, the Lil' XT (http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/75906/lil-xt/) companion pet and the Celestial Steed (http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/75614/celestial-steed/) mounts will be available from the Blizzard Store! This is the first time Blizzard sells a mount through the Blizzard store, we don't have the price yet but we can assume we'll hear about it very soon.

The Celestial Steed seems to scale depending on your existing mounts. If you already have a 310% flying mount, the celestial steed will be a 310% as well. If you don't, it will just be a regular 280% flying mount. (or 150% if you never bought the epic flying skill)





Come on blizz! Youre sooooo close, you can do it!! Quit easing people into micro-transactions and just start selling purples/gold already.

[Svpernova09]

-.- Contempt face

[Fursphere]

This is the Activism Board of Directors personal Stimulus plan.

[Mercurio]

Man, that steed is pretty nice.

Maybe it will only be like $25.

Well, shouldn't be too bad. If I only buy the mount for toons that I've put some time into - say, those 80s with a gear score of over 5K, then I'd only be out....






OH CRAP, that's $750!!!!

Good thing I drive a Hyundai and my wife drives a Lexus. Otherwise, this one would be hard to explain.

[Fat Tire]

Man, that steed is pretty nice.

Maybe it will only be like $25.

Well, shouldn't be too bad. If I only buy the mount for toons that I've put some time into - say, those 80s with a gear score of over 5K, then I'd only be out....






OH CRAP, that's $750!!!!

Good thing I drive a Hyundai and my wife drives a Lexus. Otherwise, this one would be hard to explain.

So whatcha think Mercurio? You think you would be interested in purchasing new mounts say every three months? I am sure they can give you a bulk discount.

If I am blizzard and I can get people to pay 30-40 bucks for a mount every 2 months I would put a few extra designers on it. My guess is 39.99, if you buy 4 you get the 5th one freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

[Drizzit]

So whatcha think Mercurio? You think you would be interested in purchasing new mounts say every three months? I am sure they can give you a bulk discount.

If I am blizzard and I can get people to pay 30-40 bucks for a mount every 2 months I would put a few extra designers on it. My guess is 39.99, if you buy 4 you get the 5th one freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

I think you are right about the price. Blizzard knows how much the tiger is going for on e-bay so why would they make this one cheap. But the sad thing is buy 4 and you get the 5th one for 39.99.

[Vecter]

The thing about these transactions is that they are fluff pieces. They have no outward bearing on the game itself. Having a pet or new mount won't down Sindragosa. I may look cool (huge stretch) but I won't play any better. Blizz will never sell actual usable items/gold as that would drastically change the game (and they are doing that just fine themselves :D)

[Kalros]

I see no problem with this, in fact, like the 2-seater Rocket, I'll be acquiring AT LEAST one upon release. I just want to know if these things are Bound to Account or individual characters .....................

[Fat Tire]

The thing about these transactions is that they are fluff pieces. They have no outward bearing on the game itself. Having a pet or new mount won't down Sindragosa. I may look cool (huge stretch) but I won't play any better. Blizz will never sell actual usable items/gold as that would drastically change the game (and they are doing that just fine themselves :D)

Actual usable items? I lol'd irl

Why would they sell everyday purples? There is a much smaller market for these items since gear is replaced in every new content patch and for sure every expansion. The only thing I could see them selling are trinkets, but even then meh, replaceable unless they do something unique like turn you into a goat or something.

Why sell straight up gold? No reason to since they control the flow of gold in the game. They control the price of gold by how much quantity there is given a certain number of players. However, there is another way to sell gold without selling gold.

Now they could have chosen to sell the steed in dalaran for @30kg, kinda like the mammoth tundra mount or the mechano-chopper that is 16k-20k currently. Current market value 60-90 bucks.

They have chosen not to and thus skipping gold sellers/farmer directly and selling gold themselves via the direct purchase method.

I have no problem with this but there shouldn't be a double standard.

[Vecter]

Actual usable items? I lol'd irl

Why would they sell everyday purples? There is a much smaller market for these items since gear is replaced in either every new content patch and for sure every expansion. The only thing I could see them selling are trinkets, but even then meh, replaceable unless they do something unique like turn you into a goat or something.

Why sell straight up gold? No reason to since they control the flow of gold in the game. They control the price of gold by how much quanity there is given a certain number of players. However, there is another way to sell gold without selling gold.

Now they could have chosen to sell the steed in dalaran for @30kg, kinda like the mammoth tundra mount or the mechano-chopper that is 16k-20k currently. Current market value 60-90 bucks.

They have chosen not to and thus skipping gold sellers/farmer directly and selling gold themselves via the direct purchase method.

I have no problem with this but there shouldn't be a double standard.

Blizzard is in the market to make money, real hard cash. The amount of money they have made selling the pets is probably millions, and adding a mount for purchase is going to make them millions more. That's all it comes down to, not bypassing any gold sellers or controlling gold. None of that directly puts money into their pockets.

[Kalros]

On a side note: How long do you think until they start selling 200% Experience potions? You know its gonna happen!

[Fursphere]

This is blizzard jumping the shark in my opinion. (selling out - the beginning of the end - etc).

I was able to overlook the panda monk - it had a "charity" thing attached. lil-kt was kinda iffy though.

Now this? And drastically changing the RAF mount to a 2 seater? Ya.. fuck that. They are dancing on the "RMT" issue (selling gold) and its just the start of them selling their basic principles.

Next expansion will be World of Second Life of Warcraft. Then Runes of Warcraft.

[Fat Tire]

Blizzard is in the market to make money, real hard cash. The amount of money they have made selling the pets is probably millions, and adding a mount for purchase is going to make them millions more. That's all it comes down to, not bypassing any gold sellers or controlling gold. None of that directly puts money into their pockets.



The old blizzard is the market to make money argument. Gotta love it!


I run my business to make money also, just like blizzard. I love taking stupid peoples money it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. Darwinism is at work I always say.

I just want to be allowed to sell my shit in game for RL cash to stupid people too, just like they do, but without repercussions. Thats the double standard.


Edit: And before anyone uses the argument of mounts are not the same as selling gold/items I call bullshit. During Ulduar, my guild sold 10 man achievement proto drakes for 35k in which we had a number of people who said that they didnt have 35kg so we charged 200 bucks and they paid thru paypal. We had 2 people do this, paid for our vent and guild site for almost 2 years with these 2 runs. People are vain even in a virtual world and they are willing to pay for it.

[Kalros]

I can see both sides of the fence on this argument. About a year ago I went through the hatred phase when I heard they were going to be selling player-made StarCraft 2 maps, and when they announced the first wave of WoW pets. But over time I warmed to the idea, and I've always been a Mount Whore, so this works out well for me.

Then you have Blizzard who looks at ebay auctions for the TCG mounts and says "Hey, there is a real interest by people to spend money for cool-looking mounts". This way, they feed the people who will do that, and get a cut themselves.

[blbjtb]

LOL whos going to by 5 of these thats what I want to know =P I feel like a Fing fool but Ive thought about it.... I mean I dont even fly anywhere I just teleport to dungeons... And I already catch so much shit from people while I multibox OMG 75 DOLL HAIRS AHHHHH... This really will just add fuel to the fire.

[Fursphere]

$25 for the mount. Its account bound (dunno if that wow account or battle.net account).

Its available to purchase and use in game now.

With it being account bound, its "reasonable" - Since if you roll a n00b alt, it'll have a mount waiting for it. Although I still don't agree with it. Make in game mounts account bound fuckers.

[Fursphere]

Apparently its just the WoW account. So get ready to spend $125 if you one on all five accounts.

[Fat Tire]

$25 for the mount. Its account bound (dunno if that wow account or battle.net account).

Its available to purchase and use in game now.

With it being account bound, its "reasonable" - Since if you roll a n00b alt, it'll have a mount waiting for it. Although I still don't agree with it. Make in game mounts account bound fuckers.

25 bucks equates to 7000g.


Just amazing. These things will sell like hot cakes! Grats Blizz! I could think of much more pragmatic uses of $25 than to line Blizz's pockets. So I wish people well on their shiny mounts. I am kinda jealous of their marketing team, I wonder how many man hours it took to make the mount and what they saw as the initialized return.

[blbjtb]

So heres the question who here is going to buy 1-5?
Post here.
and Hang your head in shame

....Probably going to buy 5 and I swear to god I want to kick myself for it

[Kalros]

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/4209/wowscrnshot041510132618.jpg (http://img208.imageshack.us/i/wowscrnshot041510132618.jpg/)

[Daeri]

Blizzard is in the market to make money, real hard cash. The amount of money they have made selling the pets is probably millions, and adding a mount for purchase is going to make them millions more..

Indeed, they did : http://www.wow.com/2010/02/17/blizzard-donates-1-1-million-to-make-a-wish-from-pandaren-pet-s/ and they sold many more since this article was published.

[Shodokan]

Friend is in que to get them... 15,000 person in line.

There are already over 200 people on illidan with them.

Blizzard will break 1 million$ today easily. (celestial steed)

[Fat Tire]

I see no reason why they wouldn't have a mount a month sale depending on man hours needed to create them.

[Kalros]

And in case anyone wasnt sure, you get one for EVERY CHARACTER ON YOUR ACCOUNT!

[Siaea]

If I thought for a second my wife wouldn't beat the bejesus out of me, I'd shell out the 125 for 'em. I might still and just be bejesus-less. The site's totally down ATM, everybody and their dog is obviously buying one.

[Shodokan]

And in case anyone wasnt sure, you get one for EVERY CHARACTER ON YOUR ACCOUNT!

wait what?

[Poyzon]

WoW account. Not BNet account.

[zenga]

Those mounts look even more gay than the zebra raf mounts. I just saw a tauren on one, they look like the one's from 'My little pony'. Apart from that my principle is that everyone should be free to do with his her money what he want. But that gives me also the right to find it stupid :)

[blbjtb]

Bought my 5... Im dumb. /Flame on

[Kalros]

Bought my 5... Im dumb. /Flame onNever! You're one of us now! Now bring in the screenshots!

[Mosg2]

I wish it didn't have wings and was like the Headless Horseman's mount. le sigh.

[blbjtb]

I bought them at work so the wife wont find out hahaha on a different credit card. that nobody knows about. good God I have a problem

[Dorffo]

I bought them at work so the wife wont find out hahaha on a different credit card. that nobody knows about. good God I have a problem

resisting urge to click buy x5... failing...

[MiRai]

resisting urge to click buy x5... failing...
Resistance is futile! You will be assimilated!

[Kalros]

resisting urge to click buy x5... Failing...

one of us! One of us!

[blbjtb]

DO IT!!!! For every person that buys one I feel a little better about myself haha kinda glad I got in on the ground floor. Besides my pallies didnt buy their Epic flying mount yet so I just saved myself 25kg (was only going to buy them the white bird)cause ya know they are pallies haha

[ElectronDF]

It only is a mount, not a flying training. So you will still need the training to use it at certain speeds.

Just will put in my vote. I will get 5 of the steed (at work, authenticator at home). But I only get 1 of the vanity pets. It is still account bound, so not so bad on both. But the vanity pet really is only for show, so not really worth the extra $40. Having it show up, cool. Having it 5 times, not really 5 times cooler. But the mount that you don't have to buy, always works for mount or flying, doesn't seem annoying looking and works across all accounts. Yes please.

[blbjtb]

Well i know i have to get the training I was refering to this http://www.wowhead.com/item=44689
I was off on the price but it will still save me quite a bit. LOL let me do my Jedi Mind trick on myself Damnit!

Also anyone know if its possible to add these mounts to GOGO mount or is there a better mount mod out there?

[Prega]

mount looks fun.
sense of ingame pets for me is unknown, sorry.
but i have a really "rational" approach about mounts/pets and gingles. and in general, about this game.
i need one mount. if it works, it s all i need:)

different thing for me would be i can buy a uber-sword for my gear in blizzard store, for example.
but, probably, that day wont be a great day for WoW.

gz who bought:)

[Shodokan]

Now if blizzard would only sell alar....

[thefunk]

/rant
i'll be brutally honest here. I don't get it. Once I have my mounts, why would I want different mounts? Especially after forking out 5 x subs + boxing software + internet + nappies + beer. I want a different weapon because it hits more often, or hits for more. I wouldn't pay RL money for a new weapon because I'M ALREADY PAYING BLIZZARD EVERY MONTH. From a business perspective, someone thought of a way of annualising last year's numbers easily and people are buying into it.

From a RPG perspective it doesn't make sense as how are you going to justify a random item coming in too early in the game? divine intervention? Send them to hogger.
/end rant

I'm not too worried about the direction as it isn't impacting on the gameplay, but the minute they sell weapons/armour/raid/combat items I'm looking elsewhere (unless they stop charging a subscription fee).

[Ualaa]

People in trade chat, on Cenarius US are reporting 85,000 in queue for the pet.

If the mount was a 310% on its own, even if you did not already own one...
Especially if you could choose the mount graphic, I'd probably pick up the Tempest Keep phoenix x5.

But for a pure graphic mount, not worth it.
You'd still have to pay for epic flying etc.., so its not much of a gold savings.

[Velassra]

I have absolutely no interest in either the pet or the mount.

I don't know; just wanted to throw that out there.

[Shodokan]

Jesus... someone from the #1 guild on my server is selling them... 5kg each... and has 150 of them... WTF.

[Fat Tire]

Jesus... someone from the #1 guild on my server is selling them... 5kg each... and has 150 of them... WTF.

5k? I have seen people paying anywhere from 30-50k

[ELBA]

FOR JUST THE MOUNT ($25)

Currently in Queue...

Position: 163,469 - Estimated time: 10 hours

so 163,000 x $25 = $4,075,000

Ya I bet they make 5 million bucks today!

[Fat Tire]

FOR JUST THE MOUNT ($25)

Currently in Queue...

Position: 163,469 - Estimated time: 10 hours

so 163,000 x $25 = $4,075,000

Ya I bet they make 5 million bucks today!

Betcha someone at blizzard is going to be doing some coke off strippers asses tonight, making it rain. Holla!@ its raining 25 dollar bills up in this bitch!


Replace Gearscore Here!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCjuFpQ3EeA&fmt=18)(click me)



Pimp my ride!
http://www.crunchgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/horse_knighthood03.jpg

[Ualaa]

Jesus... someone from the #1 guild on my server is selling them... 5kg each... and has 150 of them... WTF.


If you have to log onto your battle net, to order one..
And they're account bound...

I don't think you can sell them in game.

[Fat Tire]

If you have to log onto your battle net, to order one..
And they're account bound...

I don't think you can sell them in game.

You can gift them to anyone you want.

[Shodokan]

If you have to log onto your battle net, to order one..
And they're account bound...

I don't think you can sell them in game.

Same thing as the teddy bear pets... theres a redemption code.

[ebony]

i got 5 am part off the i got to much money club now??

But wow they look epic in a with a train marcio i made :D all walking in a line :D here a SS

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_qtt3RZdN04g/S8fKlNEbqNI/AAAAAAAAAYY/RX5ROh2jPt4/s1024/WoWScrnShot_041610_032505.jpg

[Fat Tire]

i got 5 am part off the i got to much money club now??

But wow they look epic in a with a train marcio i made :D all walking in a line :D here a SS



Seriously, we all muti box and pay for several subscriptions each. Do you really think its the I have too much money club you're in?

The fact that you bought 5, made a train macro, went into the middle of a major city and then took a screenshot and decided to post it here says everything about what kind of club you're in.

[crowdx]

I think that Draenai, Taurens, night Elves etc look really stupid on this mount, they just look out of place size wize sitting on the mount, very similar to the way these races look on the RAF mount. They really need to scale the model for different races.

[ebony]

Seriously, we all muti box and pay for several subscriptions each. Do you really think its the I have too much money club you're in?

The fact that you bought 5, made a train macro, went into the middle of a major city and then took a screenshot and decided to post it here says everything about what kind of club you're in.


god its joke!

[Fat Tire]

god its joke!


http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/2/pug_face.gif

[MiRai]

The fact that you bought 5, made a train macro, went into the middle of a major city and then took a screenshot and decided to post it here says everything about what kind of club you're in.
What club is that exactly?

[Fursphere]

Seriously, we all muti box and pay for several subscriptions each. Do you really think its the I have too much money club you're in?

The fact that you bought 5, made a train macro, went into the middle of a major city and then took a screenshot and decided to post it here says everything about what kind of club you're in.

This was too epic not to quote.

That is all.

[Gormand]

Here is a few numbers I threw together for my guild. I bought only bought one for my main account, and thats for solo toons not my boxing teams. Although they will get it anyway just to get it out of my mailbox.

Right now I am sitting in a queue for the store to purchase these for myself, and others. I started at 131,000 in the queue.
Earlier I was in the queue but had to leave for work, I started 88,000 in the queue. The queue seems to be going at around 50-70k people per hour. So lets go with the lowest one, 50k
Lets say each person is buying on average just 1 mount.
Each mount costs $25 (Pets cost $10)

50,000 x 25 = $1,250,000 per hour. And I call that a very very conservative number. I suspect this will keep up for a full 24 hours as it travels around the world
$1,250,000 x 24 = $30,000,000

So yes it appears that Blizzard just earned $30mil+ in a day for almost nothing.

Now lets look at that "limited" stock.
In 2 hours the stock has dropped by 4% so 50k = 2%, 25k = 1%
2.5 million mounts for sale. Thats quite a limit http://www.cadence-guild.com/forums/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif Assuming they all sell $62.5 million dollars for adding 1 mount to the game.

This doesnt take into account the pet.

[ebony]

Here is a few numbers I threw together for my guild. I bought only bought one for my main account, and thats for solo toons not my boxing teams. Although they will get it anyway just to get it out of my mailbox.

Right now I am sitting in a queue for the store to purchase these for myself, and others. I started at 131,000 in the queue.
Earlier I was in the queue but had to leave for work, I started 88,000 in the queue. The queue seems to be going at around 50-70k people per hour. So lets go with the lowest one, 50k
Lets say each person is buying on average just 1 mount.
Each mount costs $25 (Pets cost $10)

50,000 x 25 = $1,250,000 per hour. And I call that a very very conservative number. I suspect this will keep up for a full 24 hours as it travels around the world
$1,250,000 x 24 = $30,000,000

So yes it appears that Blizzard just earned $30mil+ in a day for almost nothing.

Now lets look at that "limited" stock.
In 2 hours the stock has dropped by 4% so 50k = 2%, 25k = 1%
2.5 million mounts for sale. Thats quite a limit http://www.cadence-guild.com/forums/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif Assuming they all sell $62.5 million dollars for adding 1 mount to the game.

This doesnt take into account the pet.

this is without EU? that was hiting 66k+ ques as well.

good day for them today.

[Gormand]

this is without EU? that was hiting 66k+ ques as well.

good day for them today.

Hmm wow I didnt realise that was on separate queues. So damn yeah you could almost double those numbers O.o

[Fursphere]

Congratulations.

You all just acquired the "Lemming" achievement.

I suspect that this will start happening more frequently - and everyone will keep buying them. WoW just become a RMT platform. Yay!

[Ualaa]

If it were a faster mount, say 310% even if you did not already have a 310% mount...
I'd probably join the crowd.

But as long as its a purely graphical mount, no matter how cool looking, it's no better then my current mount.
So, if some want the graphic they're welcome to it; it doesn't bother me that they have it or that I don't.
And as long as the mounts/pets are no benefit over the normal stuff, its not really an RMT platform, at least imo.

[Slats]

I dont understand why multiboxers dont love this.

If someone had said to you a year ago, pay $25 per account. Now every character you create will get a mount in their mailbox.

At level 20 it will be a 60% speed ground mount.
At level 40 it will be a 100% speed ground mount.
At level 60 it will be a 150% speed flying mount/100% speed ground mount.
At level 70 it can be a 280% speed flying mount/100% speed ground mount.

You would JUMP at the chance. This is one less hassle to deal with on 5 accounts accross characters with multiple races and having to go to different cities to purchase mounts. And your characters can all look the same which is something many boxers covet greatly.

I've bought one for my main account and will probably buy 4 more. At the end of the day I'm supporting Blizzard to make even more incredible games and to buy products and things about WoW that I like.

If you box 5 accounts at $15 each per month you already pay $900 a year in subscription fees. Whats another $125 once off to gain such a great benefit?

So what if everyone has one, the novelty will wear off and people will go back to using whatever they like best. Some people cant just stand that everyone has the same cool new toy as them. Well in WoW you cant be a unique individual, ever. :P

[thefunk]

personally I think people should do what they want. But to suggest I would jump for this is idiocy. As boxers in game money isn't a problem, except maybe epic flying. You still need to buy the talent. Some boxers want everything the same for pvp/ arena purposes, that doesn't necessarily apply for the mount. So this is for purely aesthetics. I don't jump for that.

[Seldum]

Can all the toons in your wow account use this mount? (if they have the appropiate riding skill) Even cross server and faction?

[Slats]

Every character on your account gets it mailed to their mailbox. Every new character you make starts with it in their mailbox.

It changes based on your riding skill and where you are. :)

Its a very girlie looking mount, but my slaves are all women. My main can stay using Headless Horseman's :D

[Maxion]

Been trying several times this evening to buy one for each of my accounts, but keep getting "unable to process transaction" oh well, maybe another day.

[Elgert]

I have not bought any (don't know if i will) but it sounds practical that it is both a ground and flying mount. I saw someone last night afk on the mount in the middle of daleran - thats not possible on anything normal that can fly. Seems nice not to have to shift between flying/ground mounts based on where you are. Maybe.




At level 20 it will be a 60% speed ground mount.
At level 40 it will be a 100% speed ground mount.
At level 60 it will be a 150% speed flying mount/100% speed ground mount.
At level 70 it can be a 280% speed flying mount/100% speed ground mount.

[Khatovar]

I have not bought any (don't know if i will) but it sounds practical that it is both a ground and flying mount. I saw someone last night afk on the mount in the middle of daleran - thats not possible on anything normal that can fly. Seems nice not to have to shift between flying/ground mounts based on where you are. Maybe.

If it's anything like the Headless Horseman's Mount, you still need to dismount and remount when going between flight and no-flight zones. The HH mount doesn't automatically transition. When you fly into Dalaran, you'll get dismounted and have to summon again to have the "non-flying" version, even though it's the same mount. Likewise, while on the ground mount version, you won't automatically shift to the flyable mount when you reach Krasus Landing.

[Svpernova09]

If it's anything like the Headless Horseman's Mount, you still need to dismount and remount when going between flight and no-flight zones. The HH mount doesn't automatically transition. When you fly into Dalaran, you'll get dismounted and have to summon again to have the "non-flying" version, even though it's the same mount. Likewise, while on the ground mount version, you won't automatically shift to the flyable mount when you reach Krasus Landing.


You do have to remount between ground / flight.


I'd just like to add a quote I saw on the wow forums yesterday about it.

"Having a core hound pup pet proves you have an authenticator...Having a Celestial Steed proves you have a job"

[Svpernova09]

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/2/pug_face.gif


I lol'd hard irl

[blbjtb]

"Having a core hound pup pet proves you have an authenticator...Having a Celestial Steed proves you have a job"[/QUOTE]

This made me LOL Had to Quote it!

[Slimjim19]

Im part of the "no real benefit" crowd. If it was auto 310 speed, id be on it. Otherwise, you have to run all the way to the trainer to get your riding skills anyhow. The mount merchant is right next to them. Its the training that costs money, not the mount.

Dunno though, I still ride the epic windriders because their graphic is small. I hate drakes wings filling so much of my screen.

If they could sell a filter for all the spam this created in the trade chat, id pay them $25.

[blbjtb]

Here is my final thought on these mounts and pet.

The Mounts look awesome IMHO. They dont put you in a OOOO Im special club look what kinda of money I can spend on a game. They dont Grant you faster flying. They do provide a cool graphic and if you want to pay for that then by all means its your money. I think its a bit rediculious that they generate the hate they do. But thats just people. People will hate on you for things they dont have thats part of life get over it. We all spend quite a bit of money on our "Hobby" but some of the posts I see here really mimic trade chat and tells that Ive been getting even since I got my star horsies. If you like the graphic get it if you dont then dont its that simple.

Lil Xt is Fing hilarious! because he screams talks REALLY loud in raid and in dalaran and he griefs best 10 dollars Ive ever spent.

Thats just my 2 cents

[zenga]

Here is my final thought on these mounts and pet.

The Mounts look awesome IMHO. They dont put you in a OOOO Im special club look what kinda of money I can spend on a game. They dont Grant you faster flying. They do provide a cool graphic and if you want to pay for that then by all means its your money. I think its a bit rediculious that they generate the hate they do. But thats just people. People will hate on you for things they dont have thats part of life get over it. We all spend quite a bit of money on our "Hobby" but some of the posts I see here really mimic trade chat and tells that Ive been getting even since I got my star horsies. If you like the graphic get it if you dont then dont its that simple.

Lil Xt is Fing hilarious! because he screams talks REALLY loud in raid and in dalaran and he griefs best 10 dollars Ive ever spent.

Thats just my 2 cents

One finds the mount cool, someone else (like me) finds it rather girly/gay. One cares for looking cool, another one doesn't care (like me). One is willing to spend money / gold on looking cool, another one isn't (like me). By all means don't get influenced by contradictory opinions like mine, do what you want and what you find fun. Your definition of fun is not inferior to mine, nor the other way around. And we are both entitled to give our opinion.

But the point you miss imo is the precedent blizzard created, and where you contributed: i.e. selling ingame stuff for real life currency. Remember the companions they sold under the name of charity? That was a pretty neat test case. I'm not going so far by saying that it was not a genuine action and that is was just for marketing purposes. But it was definitely a first step. And now they sell an ingame mount, marketed as being exclusive. Judgingby the queues you can forget about the exclusive part, but that is not my problem/business.

And there is what bothers/worries many people.

Bothers: it has often been stated that no ingame 'stuff' would be sold for rl currency. While it's not directly something you gonna kill the lick king with, it is an account advantage. Not to mention that parents who's kid is playing wow are now confronted with the pressure of the 'my friend has this cool mount, i want it too'. While they signed up for wow since it's a fixed price per month and they wouldn't have to deal with that stuff. Raf and all the name/real/server changes are something totally different: they are a service, not an ingame thing. So the principle gone is what bothers many players i talked with. While not entirely true, it smells like bait and switch to me.

And on a second note: having a 'cool mount' was a result of achieving something. This is no longer true and makes the achievement worth less (not that i care too much about that, but still).

Worries.
After the charity-companion-test-case, this turns out to be a big hit. While they will use the argument: 'this is what our player base wants', they of course created this demand themselves marketing wise. The shareholders and anyone who holds a financial position will be too happy to not repeat / extend this action. And that is what worries several players: where will this end. Regardless how good the game is, the day they shift towards the micro payment model (where you just pay for what you want/need ingame) instead of the current flat fee way, the game will lose me. I've seen it happen previously and how it kills a game. Only those who wish/were able to spend $ were are able to compete on an end game level.

[Zappy]

"Fancy Horse Makes Blizzard $2 Million in Four Hours" - hahaha

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3178849

[Redbeard]

And on a second note: having a 'cool mount' was a result of achieving something. This is no longer true and makes the achievement worth less (not that i care too much about that, but still).
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Not going to touch your other points, but regarding the quote. You really shouldn't enforce your value system on people. For some people, having a "cool mount" is a result of having a mount who looks cool to them. Theyre not looking for a badge of honor for completing some in game task, they want something aesthetically pleasing. Good for them.

[emps]

I am one who's on the live-and-let-live side. I purchased it for my team not because I'm tired of grinding mounts and frankly the amount of time (for me) to earn $125 is significantly less than the amount required to farm any mount in the game. Whether I'm a contributor to a bad precedence... Well, I play the game to enjoy my time not to make sure everybody else enjoy theirs. (of course within the bounds of ToS). It's really simple... If you like it and have money, buy it. If not, don't.

[Fat Tire]

Not going to touch your other points, but regarding the quote. You really shouldn't enforce your value system on people. For some people, having a "cool mount" is a result of having a mount who looks cool to them. Theyre not looking for a badge of honor for completing some in game task, they want something aesthetically pleasing. Good for them.



http://www.weirdthings.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/checker-tattoo-is-bloody-weird-but-cool.jpg

This guy bought the mount too. ITS A HORSE WITH WINGS DUDE! Sure its his right to spend the money on how he sees fit but that doesnt mean other people are not going to call him a fuckin idiot.

No excuses or rationalizations are going to get most people to understand your stupid decision. Unless of course they do the same thing themselves. Like I said above there are more pragmatic things you could do with money, but dont expect people not to call you an idiot for spending it like one.

One has to ponder if no one purchased the mount/pets and everyone said "No way will I pay for that!".

[ElectronDF]

So you go from I don't want to buy it myself, to you shouldn't buy it, to you are an idiot if you buy it. Wow. How do you get so hot and bothered by what other people do? You don't seem like you are trying to reinforce them being happy (make sure you dismount and remount when changing between flying and non-flying zones) (make sure you take a look at a large char on it, since it doesn't scale) (you might blend in being a 20 on a mount with wings and a 85 on a mount with wings in Cata). I don't think I see one positive/helpful thing that was posted by haters. You really can't either "say something nice or don't say anything at all"?

[Fat Tire]

So you go from I don't want to buy it myself, to you shouldn't buy it, to you are an idiot if you buy it. Wow. How do you get so hot and bothered by what other people do? You don't seem like you are trying to reinforce them being happy (make sure you dismount and remount when changing between flying and non-flying zones) (make sure you take a look at a large char on it, since it doesn't scale) (you might blend in being a 20 on a mount with wings and a 85 on a mount with wings in Cata). I don't think I see one positive/helpful thing that was posted by haters. You really can't either "say something nice or don't say anything at all"?


Who says everything posted has to be positive?


No worries, this topic is over for the most part. Blizzard is going to continue to sell stuff in the store, maybe even more often now and people will continue to buy it. /thread

[Sam DeathWalker]

Not mine but here is a hi rez shot (click twice)


http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/267/wowscrnshot041610113937.th.jpg (http://img7.imageshack.us/i/wowscrnshot041610113937.jpg/)

[thefunk]

Who says everything posted has to be positive?


No worries, this topic is over for the most part. Blizzard is going to continue to sell stuff in the store, maybe even more often now and people will continue to buy it. /thread

This topic was over the minute i saw that dog. and then had nightmares about it last night hehe.

[Elektroz]

For everyone who is ashamed as buying a mount, don't be. For everyone who is mad about blizzard selling them, go for it.

This is the nature of a free market system. Blizzard obviously would not have made this horse if they did not think there was a demand for it. Blizzard is going to do what's best for their bottom line. They want more money, so they sell a celestial steed. It's a win for Blizzard, and a win for whoever wants to buy the steed.

Whether they move on to selling other items is a bigger decision, one of "can selling items in game make up for the loss of money from cancelled subscriptions?" If there is more money in selling items in a virtual store, then obviously that is what Blizzard should do. But something tells me that alot of people would not find this attractive, and that is why Blizzard has not done it yet.

Blizzard is out to make money, not screw over people. You may feel like Blizzard is turning the game into one of those crappy free internet games where being geared means buying lots of items from an online store, and that is completely justified. But telling other people their idiots and condemning them for how they spend their money is very judgmental and irrational. Imagine a world where everyone bought the exact same things you did and nothing else.

So here are your options:
1) Buy the mount (you obviously want it; it's not being forced upon you. If you buy this mount, there's probably a good chance Blizzard will make more cool vanity goods, which is what you want. By buying this good, you are essentially telling Blizzard that you approve; you vote in favor of the steed and/or selling virtual items. This basically tells Blizzard that there is a market for this type of good, and that money is to be earned. While they are making money, you are provided with many more new vanity goods. So it's a win-win for Blizzard, they get money, and the consumer, you get cool new things).

2) Don't buy the mount (you don't like the mount, so you don't buy it. It's as simple as that. Blizzard can interpret this as a "no-vote" for either the mount and/or selling virtual goods. I am not going to buy the mount because I don't want to spend the money on the steed specifically. This doesn't mean that Blizzard is ignoring me, but rather that I am just in the minority of consumers.)

3. Quit playing WoW (you think selling this steed is the last straw when it comes to selling virtual goods, and nothing gets you more angry than those games with virtual stores. The choice here is very simple. If you do not like the product, then don't buy it. Remember, Blizzard is out to make money. If you quit, they are no longer getting your money. Therefore, if the majority of players do not want this type of system, which I suspect is true, Blizzard will not implement it, because they would lose lots of money. When you quit, you are basically telling Blizzard that you do not like their product. If the majority of people quit due to the creation of a virtual store, what would Blizzard do? They would obviously stop the virtual store because it has fallen out of favor with the majority of players in the market for MMOs, and Blizzard as a corporation would want to remain competitive in order to make the most money.)

What to take from this post: Blizzard wants money. In order to make the most money, Blizzard will follow the majority of players. If you think selling goods in a virtual store is wrong, then don't pay for Blizzard's product (noone is forcing you to buy it).

Ultimately, if you like it, that's great and you are probably with the majority of players. And if you don't like it, then that's fine too, I outlined your choices. The anger you're feeling is one of powerlessness; you feel that Blizzard is not listening to you even though you pay for their bills. Really Blizzard is listening to you, but you're just in the minority of players. It's like the old saying, "democracy works great, but only if my side wins."

[Sam DeathWalker]

Ya well Im all for them selling whatever they want, more money they make means they can hire more people to impove the game .....

This item though, although looking hot, Im satisfied with my frostwolf howlers and flying rug heh ....

[Tonuss]

I only laugh at anyone who bought one thinking that they'd be able to show off in Dalaran for a little while, only to find that there were already 15 people standing in front of the bank on their own store-bought mount. Other than that, I honestly don't care one way or another. I won't get one because I don't think that it's worth it, but if they'd made it a flying raptor I'd have plunked down $25 in a heartbeat...

As for selling gear, the problem with that isn't that people would quit in indignation. I think that a relative few people are even aware of what goes on via the website and forums and blogs and websites. And I also am pretty sure that most people who talk about quitting never do so, or return before their subscription time even expires. I think the problem is that you're helping players skip the content, and moving them through the game more quickly without any effort. Which means that they could actually get bored and quit because of that. Not because they were pissed about anything, but simply out of boredom.

Selling a see-through horse for $25 is just a way to make money. Selling a "Finish WOW with one click" button could actually hurt them in a pretty short time span.

[Diwa]

"Having a core hound pup pet proves you have an authenticator...Having a Celestial Steed proves you have a job"

And having multiple accounts with multiple Celestial Steed proves?

More RMT will surely come out after this and it will slowly destroy the balance of the game. Yes they do made money out of it. But average people who plays the game for $15 a month will slowly realize that they are spending too much and quit the game sooner or later. If free games with RMT model didn't last, what more with subscription based?

[Ualaa]

As long as there is no advantage (ie, it remains asthetic/visual toys) from the items, it won't impact the game that much.

If you could purchase, via a RMT, something better then you could get in the game, say a 330% mount in Cataclysm (when everyone else will have 310%), then suddenly you either need to spend extra on the game or be behind the curve.

[Toned]

I was hoping to see Prepared or Sam with their 32 - 36 mounts LOL

[laaglander]

xD, i dont beleve they would spend that much, although it supports blizzard.

[Kicksome]

Well said Elektroz (http://www.dual-boxing.com/member.php?u=5156).

[Diwa]

Felt like epic mounts are not epic anymore after this. I have no problems with people collecting mounts and buying this Celestial Steeds. I think people here who are against it is just trying to educate the community the negative side of supporting RMT's. As a boxer we are already helping the company by having multiple accounts as we enjoy the challenge from it. They are also milking us from character/server change services and soon the expansion. I think supporting RMT's such as this is too much for us boxers. It's true that this are only aesthetics but for some people it matters. People worked hard to have epic mounts like from rare boss drops and reputations only to find out that you can just buy a better looking one. I will not be surprise if Blizzard starts on selling stat boost potions since RMT through aesthetics works. Once you fall for RMT addiction it will be hard to get out.

Lil'XT is also annoying and it forces you to push the mute button.

[MiRai]

I don't ever see Blizzard selling items which will provide an unfair advantage in the game. Why would they go that route after over 5 years of having a solid game without it? They would lose so much of their player base it wouldn't even be funny. They haven't had the top MMORPG for the past 5 years because they've been "doing it wrong". So what they sell stupid little pets and now a mount, both which don't affect actual gameplay what-so-ever. Does everyone here honestly believe that Blizzard could keep their player base by selling in game epics and tier armor to the person willing to pay the highest? You're all insane.

The Celestial Steed was released to pay for Cataclysm server upgrades. :)


Lil'XT is also annoying and it forces you to push the mute button.
http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/13200290614/lil-xt-sounds/

[kadaan]

I don't ever see Blizzard selling items which will provide an unfair advantage in the game. Why would they go that route after over 5 years of having a solid game without it? They would lose so much of their player base it wouldn't even be funny. They haven't had the top MMORPG for the past 5 years because they've been "doing it wrong". So what they sell stupid little pets and now a mount, both which don't affect actual gameplay what-so-ever. Does everyone here honestly believe that Blizzard could keep their player base by selling in game epics and tier armor to the person willing to pay the highest? You're all insane.

The Celestial Steed was released to pay for Cataclysm server upgrades. :)

Agreed. The day they sell gold, items, levels, exp, etc... I will stop playing. Until then, kudos for Blizzard for finding ways to supplement their income without affecting the game in any tangible way for the standard subscription players. Anyone who thinks this is the beginning of the end and all but solidifies official gold selling needs to take their tinfoil hats off and put their guns back in the closet :P.

[OzPhoenix]

Well, the Lil' XT is, without doubt, the most annoying pet eve....no, the most annoying anything ever introduced into the game, forcing me to mute sound in Org recently. But hey, it'll be patched tonight so it'll be banished - just poor testing on Blizz' part.

The Celestial Steed I went for, buying 5 of them for my team. To me the biggest selling point was finally having a single mount that was both land and air - finally a mount I can just set and forget.

[Knytestorme]

Like I said above there are more pragmatic things you could do with money

Such as? That's like lunch for one day, maybe 2 magazines, 1 dvd or 1 cd purchase. $25 is not a lot of money and is essentially pocket change for minor purchases, there is nothing else you can spend it on that will change your life in a meaningful way that makes buying the steed any less pragmatic a use of it than any other option.

In regards to the steed, I brought 1 + the 3 pets (would have brought the 2 plushies as well but wind-rider is out of stock atm) and have no issue with Blizzard selling meaningless items such as that but the moment they put weapons, armour, potions, or any other form of character upgrade up for sale is the moment I cancel all my accounts and am done with WoW and I'm sure they understand that just about anyone feels the same way whether they support things like the steed or not.

[Seraphaw]

Such as? That's like lunch for one day, maybe 2 magazines, 1 dvd or 1 cd purchase. $25 is not a lot of money and is essentially pocket change for minor purchases, there is nothing else you can spend it on that will change your life in a meaningful way that makes buying the steed any less pragmatic a use of it than any other option.
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25$ can feed a person for weeks in lesser developed countries, so if your own life is full of lush and luxury then why not help someone else out? I'm sure it will help them in a meaningful way. Or you know, you can have a sparkly digital horse.

[Mosg2]

25$ can feed a person for weeks in lesser developed countries, so if your own life is full of lush and luxury then why not help someone else out? I'm sure it will help them in a meaningful way. Or you know, you can have a sparkly digital horse.

I don't think many of us, if any, are multi-boxing in third world countries. And since to me this concept (The same as 'Eat your dinner; There are starving kids in Africa') is pretty laughable I'll quote good ole' Stephen Colbert:

"Class is a way of categorizing people based off of how much money they're willing to earn."

[OzPhoenix]

25$ can feed a person for weeks in lesser developed countries, so if your own life is full of lush and luxury then why not help someone else out? I'm sure it will help them in a meaningful way. Or you know, you can have a sparkly digital horse.

So you'll be cancelling all your extra accounts and diverting the money to needy causes in the 3rd world?

With all due respect to someone else using this site, your argument is completely facile.

[Seldum]

25$ can feed a person for weeks in lesser developed countries, so if your own life is full of lush and luxury then why not help someone else out? I'm sure it will help them in a meaningful way. Or you know, you can have a sparkly digital horse.

Dude common. That was a pretty far fetched comment :D

I'm glad you feel that way towards the undeveloped countries but I think people can do what ever they like with their $$$. If it makes you happy buying a pet and a horse in wow, go ahead. If it makes you happy to donate money to charity, go ahead.

If wow ever degrades to players being able to buy improvements, i'm probably going to ditch the game.

[Seraphaw]

So you'll be cancelling all your extra accounts and diverting the money to needy causes in the 3rd world?

With all due respect to someone else using this site, your argument is completely facile.

I think this was fairly obvious but I guess I should point out that I was joking. I like to call it cynical sarcasm.

Anyway carry on sir.

[Khatovar]

TL;DR stuff words flames

Really, 11 pages on this? It's eclipsed the class changes at this point. I fear the day they decide to let you pay for vanity armor like EQ2 does.

[Drommon]

Really, 11 pages on this? It's eclipsed the class changes at this point. I fear the day they decide to let you pay for vanity armor like EQ2 does.

Vanity armor? you mean like chainmail bikini's for all my pally chicks? COOL!

[Oswyn]

Please buy more mounts. I have a boatload of ATVI to sell.

[thefunk]

I've changed my mind and don't actually mind them selling mounts too much. I lol when I see a lvl 80 running with the horsey in vanilla, and then I overtake them with crusader aura.

[Knytestorme]

25$ can feed a person for weeks in lesser developed countries, so if your own life is full of lush and luxury then why not help someone else out? I'm sure it will help them in a meaningful way. Or you know, you can have a sparkly digital horse.

Because if I were going to help someone out it would be someone in my own country first, and I pay taxes so I don't do charity.

That's by-the-by though, as giving $25 to charity still isn't a pragmatic use of the money since it isn't a more practical use of $25 than buying the steed in the case a person has $25 to spend on any extraneous consumption and I would argue that, when taking into account utility of enjoyment and the properties of transativity, the $25 being spent on the steed is a much more practical use of it to me than giving it to some charity to be wasted on "administrative fees"

[heyaz]

So.. it does the exact same thing as the mounts I already have, and it's not even cool or original since half the server has one now.

And Lil'XT - the most irritating thing since the train set. I see people dismissing their own pets because it's annoying them (and everyone else). Of course, I did get the Lil'KT pets when they came out though, for one reason: the original kel'thuzad death laugh every time I kill someone in PVP... that's actually fun.

[Diwa]

Because if I were going to help someone out it would be someone in my own country first, and I pay taxes so I don't do charity.

That's by-the-by though, as giving $25 to charity still isn't a pragmatic use of the money since it isn't a more practical use of $25 than buying the steed in the case a person has $25 to spend on any extraneous consumption and I would argue that, when taking into account utility of enjoyment and the properties of transativity, the $25 being spent on the steed is a much more practical use of it to me than giving it to some charity to be wasted on "administrative fees"


i lol'd about the charity. Since we talked about third world countries here and I came from one of them. $25 in our country is equivalent to one 18 year old prostitute who needs that additional $25 for her college tuition fee. So if you bought 5 Steeds for $125 then you exchange it for 5 days of pleasure. That is if you're in to that. :D

[suprafro]

Odd that people complain about vanity mounts, but not RAF. :confused:

[Tonuss]

Felt like epic mounts are not epic anymore after this.
I'm not sure what you mean by this. My epic mounts do not move any slower as a result of someone else buying a crystal horse for $25 cash. Blizzard did not refund the thousands of gold I paid for my riding skills on any of my characters when they lowered the costs for them. That didn't make my mounts any slower either. And my raptors and dragons are still as cool as they were the day I got them.

I have no problems with people collecting mounts and buying this Celestial Steeds. I think people here who are against it is just trying to educate the community the negative side of supporting RMT's.
The only understandable concern I have seen is that some are afraid that it will lead to the selling of progression gear at some point. I think that would be a bad idea, but I don't see Blizzard doing that any time soon, if at all.

The rest of the complaints I've seen about it amount to opinionated doomsaying ("this is the downfall of WOW") and jealousy-fueled rants ("If u bought it u are stupid and pathetic"). This isn't really a big deal. Then again, on the Blizzard forums this sort of thing is good for literally tens of thousands of posts over the next week or two. I think the next big money-maker for Blizzard will be charging a fee of 5 cents to post on the forum, chargeable to your account. They'll make millions just off of the posts from people complaining about it. :D

[Aesthier]

Like I said above there are more pragmatic things you could do with money, but dont expect people not to call you an idiot for spending it like one


Same can be said for Multi-boxing.


Now I am not out to bash Fat Tire as he/she is a fellow multiboxer and alot better at it than I am for sure. I understand where they are coming from but this quote pretty much sums up all the stuff that was in trade chat, though in much friendlier text.

Call it educating, helping them see how stupid they are, whatever you want but the fact is when I see stuff like this I feel sorry for the individual who is "calling others stupid". Especially when they are in such a glass house themselves.

The stuff about "you could have given that money to charity" was also there but when its coming from a poster on the message boards from a level 80 it really starts to negate the value of the statement.

I just don't understand.

We are multiboxers and as such are, or should be, used to others reacting with with disdain and as such hopefully more respective of others with play styles different than our own.

It happens all the time, but from other multiboxers? Really?

Pot and Kettle.


As far as it ruining the game because now Blizz is going to start selling off items and other such stuff... Blizz is going to ruin it or not ruin it regardless of our input or lack of it, actions or lack thereof. They are a business and that's the bottom line.

Lineage I loved but its economy eventually got ruined. I left as alot of people did but they are, still there, still picking up new players. Not like they were at one point but they didn't die by opening their doors to a bad in game economy.

I guess what upsets me is instead of harping on other players for not having the play values, why don't these people use their time to actually do something that might have an effect and put their passionate speeches in letters to Blizzard instead of harping to those who really don't care to be nagged at.


I purchased 5 of these mounts and the pets for two reasons:
1. They go to every character I make on those accounts from now on and ...

2. I mainly did it to annoy the crap out of those people who were screaming at other people who just wanted to enjoy something new.


I am not mad that someone doesn't like the actions of others, even when those actions don't hurt anyone. I am upset that they are so short sighted that they think constant bickering, name calling and bad insults are going to change the values of those they are screaming at.
I mean seriously? Are you joking? You're crying all the time. What makes you think I want to enjoy the game the same way you do...I'll just end up whining all the time like you.

I was under the impression most multiboxers knew better but I guess that was my own shortsightedness.

Its a game you pay to play, enjoy it however you want and to hell with what others think until they are paying your bill.

Luv's

~Aes

[MiRai]

Same can be said for Multi-boxing.

14:32:40 Aesthier's Wall of Text hits Dual-boxing.com Forum Goers for 16743482.(Critical)

I was under the impression most multiboxers knew better but I guess that was my own shortsightedness.

Its a game you pay to play, enjoy it however you want and to hell with what others think until they are paying your bill.

Luv's

~Aes
I'm glad we have a new person here that understands this. You're welcome to stick around for the show...don't let the flamers and forum trolls turn you away from this community! :)

[Seraphaw]

Really, they would be?
Well it's complicated but here's the up and down of it: When you can spend money on taking a woman out but you don't and THEN YOU SHOW HER YOUR MULTIBOXING SETUP. She'll go nuts and hump your multiple screens.

Money saved.

[MiRai]

Well it's complicated but here's the up and down of it: When you can spend money on taking a woman out but you don't and THEN YOU SHOW HER YOUR MULTIBOXING SETUP. She'll go nuts and hump your multiple screens.

Money saved.
This happens to me on a weekly basis.

[Fat Tire]

Well it's complicated but here's the up and down of it: When you can spend money on taking a woman out but you don't and THEN YOU SHOW HER YOUR MULTIBOXING SETUP. She'll go nuts and hump your multiple screens.

Money saved.

If only that worked on my wife.

[Littleburst]

I haven't bothered to read most here, but i guess this hasn't been posted yet.

Greedygoblin posted an interesting post about the mount:

No, I won't write about the horse. I wrote (http://greedygoblin.blogspot.com/2009/11/my-only-mount_06.html) everything about it when the equally useless pets were sold. I wouldn't waste another bit on it unless almost everyone on my bloglist wouldn't write about them. There are so many posts that I can't link them unless I make a 2 pages long list and miss half of them.

So the question is: why do bloggers (mostly intelligent people) care if Blizzard rip off kids and idiots? The money and the dumb will be separated, period. OK, RMT was a new thing in WoW with the lich pet, worth discussing once. But why again? Why bloggers create megabytes of QQ about it?

Because even in the most intelligent people there is a little piece of social. And it hurts socials bad if the Joneses have something they can't afford. And none of us can afford a celestial horse, not because of the 25$ to pay, but because we know it's stupid. If you buy it, you feel stupid for wasting money for an imaginary horse, if you don't buy it, you feel bad because the Joneses have it.

The only solution for a social is decrease the item's social value: "only stupid kids have it". This way it's no longer something that the Joneses have, it's something like fleas or dirt on the clothes: "shame on the Joneses for having it!"

While this is the most advanced thing a social can reach, I'd suggest a much simpler solution: don't care about it, or at least act like it. Don't post about it, don't inspect the owner, don't click on blogposts talking about it! The sparkling pony changes your gameplay exactly like Samantha Swifthoof (http://www.wowhead.com/npc=11748). She is in the game, but no one ever mentions her.

I guess if Blizzard would announce a Samantha Swifthoof companion, the socials would swarm to grind for her or pay $25. Good for Blizzard!


PS: and please stop writing "Blizzard is evil for X". Blizzard acts completely automatically, responding to customer requests. Blaming Blizzard is like blaming the knife for stabbing. Blame the guy who held the knife, blame the customers!http://greedygoblin.blogspot.com/2010/04/post-about-posts-about-stupid-horse.html

[Svpernova09]

This thread has run it's course. Lets all remember, one of the rules for this community it to comply with the ToS/EULA with the respective games. If you want to do things outside of the ToS / EULA of a particular game, that's fine. Talk about it elsewhere. Frankly, I don't really care but this rule is in place to ensure the multiboxing community isn't looked at negatively.