Prot Warrior, Rogue and Disc Priest.

[Reddewman]

Hi community, I been taking a lot of time to form a good team and so far I have accomplished a shadow/disc Priest with a gs of 5264, Prot warrior with a current gs of 4819 and a rogue which is at a lower gs of 3502. My issue's are minor atm as I'm trying to work out macros between my warrior and rogue, I'm unsure as to how to set it up and running the way I am now has dropped my warrior's dps by a ton. If anyone can help me out or even just get me started I'll finish.. Much thanks community :D

[Ualaa]

I would probably drive with the warrior, since that is the tank and you can control mob facing easiest from the tank.

You will likely want to have two IWT keybinds, in wow (keybinds - targeting functions). The first applies to both melee toons (for use in combat), while the second is for all toons (quest givers, flight paths, innkeepers, etc).

Either have click to move on (interface - mouse options) for all toons, or set it up so the slaves dynamically have it enabled but the master does not. You'll need some king of a toggle to turn the master's on (if leading with warrior or rogue) in combat, if you go with a dynamic system.

I'd look into a click castsequence, these are in the wiki and a sticky post in the macro/addon forum. A click castsequence is just a priority system, with a spam button which calls other castsequences in order. Earlier ones are clicked slightly ahead of later ones, if both are ready. Anything not on the GCD (trinkets, Elemental Mastery type effects etc), are clicked immediately no matter where they are in the sequence. Anything on the GCD is activated in order. Also, each ability (except the last) is a castsequence followed by a lot of commas. On a comma press, nothing occurs in that castsequence; so by varying the number of commas and consistently clicking at a uniform rate, we determine how long until the ability fires off again.

If you go with a click sequence, I'd place the spam button on two different keybinds. That way, you can place one dps spam for the priest on one, but a healing spam such as PW: Shield on everyone and Renew/Prayer of Mending on the tank, on button number two. I wouldn't put much of an auto spam on the priests other button, and instead rely on manual control for most heals.

If your software/hardware boxing option allows for accurate mouse broadcasting, then use something like Vuhdo/Grid+Clique/Healbot to heal via mouse clicks from any toon. To do this, you need an alphabetical (or fixed order of toons in the Grid frame) so each toon has the exact same target in the top, middle and bottom box. Only have the priests frame configured to cast on a click.

You can also go macro based heals. A macro will try each condition in order, and the first which is "true" will fire off. Even with the above heals (click based), I'd do at least something like Flash Heal on a macro, for out of group heals of friendlies.

#show Flash Heal
<Insert Tank Assist Method Here>
/cast [help][help,@TargetTarget] Flash Heal

@ is the same as Target=
This will assist your tank, and heal the tank's target if they are friendly [help].
But if that condition fails, then the heal goes to the target of your tank's target (which will almost always be your tank).

[Reddewman]

I would probably drive with the warrior, since that is the tank and you can control mob facing easiest from the tank.

You will likely want to have two IWT keybinds, in wow (keybinds - targeting functions). The first applies to both melee toons (for use in combat), while the second is for all toons (quest givers, flight paths, innkeepers, etc).

Either have click to move on (interface - mouse options) for all toons, or set it up so the slaves dynamically have it enabled but the master does not. You'll need some king of a toggle to turn the master's on (if leading with warrior or rogue) in combat, if you go with a dynamic system.

I'd look into a click castsequence, these are in the wiki and a sticky post in the macro/addon forum. A click castsequence is just a priority system, with a spam button which calls other castsequences in order. Earlier ones are clicked slightly ahead of later ones, if both are ready. Anything not on the GCD (trinkets, Elemental Mastery type effects etc), are clicked immediately no matter where they are in the sequence. Anything on the GCD is activated in order. Also, each ability (except the last) is a castsequence followed by a lot of commas. On a comma press, nothing occurs in that castsequence; so by varying the number of commas and consistently clicking at a uniform rate, we determine how long until the ability fires off again.

If you go with a click sequence, I'd place the spam button on two different keybinds. That way, you can place one dps spam for the priest on one, but a healing spam such as PW: Shield on everyone and Renew/Prayer of Mending on the tank, on button number two. I wouldn't put much of an auto spam on the priests other button, and instead rely on manual control for most heals.

If your software/hardware boxing option allows for accurate mouse broadcasting, then use something like Vuhdo/Grid+Clique/Healbot to heal via mouse clicks from any toon. To do this, you need an alphabetical (or fixed order of toons in the Grid frame) so each toon has the exact same target in the top, middle and bottom box. Only have the priests frame configured to cast on a click.

You can also go macro based heals. A macro will try each condition in order, and the first which is "true" will fire off. Even with the above heals (click based), I'd do at least something like Flash Heal on a macro, for out of group heals of friendlies.

#show Flash Heal
<Insert Tank Assist Method Here>
/cast [help][help,@TargetTarget] Flash Heal

@ is the same as Target=
This will assist your tank, and heal the tank's target if they are friendly [help].
But if that condition fails, then the heal goes to the target of your tank's target (which will almost always be your tank).


Thanks for the detailed reply, I'll take some more time looking into more variations and options that are available. If I was able to get fraps to record both accounts I'd post a video, but sadly it will not.

[Zugdud]

Sense 3.3.3, i've been a huge fan of UA+prot builds for 5man tanking with a warrior, even considering the revenge proc hotfix. Extremely high DPS output combined with a very simple attack sequence. The other day for example, I ran heroic PoS and my warrior was averaging 7-8k dps...while I tend to be around 3k dps with a 16/3/52 build.

This is the talent spec I'm currently using:

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Earthen+Ring&cn=Zugdar&group=2

Mace or axe spec is the best choice here imo, when I have the spare arena points i'm probably going to pickup the S8 1h mace and switch to mace spec. Also I prefer a 2.6 speed MH for more rage efficent cleave spam, as well as maximized value from deep wounds and sweeping strikes.


#Charge Opener:
/cast [stance:2/3] Battle Stance
/cast Sweeping Strikes
/castsequence reset=3 Charge, Thunderclap

#trash spam
/cast [stance:1/3] Defensive Stance
/cast Shield Block
/cast Revenge
/cast !Cleave

#bosses spam
/cast [stance:1/3] Defensive Stance
/castsequence reset=5 Sunder Armor,,,,,,,,,,,
/castsequence reset=5 Revenge
/cast !Heroic Strike

[Reddewman]

My problem at the moment is my rogue stops follow once engaged in combat, I'm using the simple /follow (name) macro, this is becoming bit of a pain having to reposition the mobs and then hit my macro and so on.. is there any other way I can keep my rogue from breaking follow in combat? Zugdud I'm going to try that out and see what happens..

*edit* Zugdud do you need to have the pvp set to obtain that output of damage?? Because I have no pvp gear.

[Ualaa]

Follow breaks once melee combat begins.

So you can use follow for the initial positioning.
But after that, its not useful during melee combat.

I'd look into the Interact With Target option.
That will be the best to keep your toons on the target, if it moves.

[Reddewman]

Follow breaks once melee combat begins.

So you can use follow for the initial positioning.
But after that, its not useful during melee combat.

I'd look into the Interact With Target option.
That will be the best to keep your toons on the target, if it moves.


Ok I'll have a go with this

[Zugdud]

As Ualaa mentioned, I would recommend using IWT (Interact with target keybind, along with click to move enabled) and have both your IWT keybind and /follow macro on comfortable and easy to reach keys. Additionally, you may want to include another /follow macro on your rogue to follow the healer, so that he can escape melee during whirlwinds while your tank stays in.


*edit* Zugdud do you need to have the pvp set to obtain that output of damage?? Because I have no pvp gear.

No PVP gear required at all, it's just what I happened to have equiped when I last logged out ;). I have a PVE tanking set that I use for tanking, and while there is definitly room in 5mans to include higher DPS items in lue of tanking pieces(castlebreaker's, bonegrinders, etc)...it's also good to maintain a high level of avoidance to maximize revenge procs.

[Reddewman]

As Ualaa mentioned, I would recommend using IWT (Interact with target keybind, along with click to move enabled) and have both your IWT keybind and /follow macro on comfortable and easy to reach keys. Additionally, you may want to include another /follow macro on your rogue to follow the healer, so that he can escape melee during whirlwinds while your tank stays in.



No PVP gear required at all, it's just what I happened to have equiped when I last logged out ;). I have a PVE tanking set that I use for tanking, and while there is definitly room in 5mans to include higher DPS items in lue of tanking pieces(castlebreaker's, bonegrinders, etc)...it's also good to maintain a high level of avoidance to maximize revenge procs.


I'm going to look into this more, I did try a pug with my rogue and warrior again I did manage to get the rotations down, I'm still trying to learn more about /click castsequence My rogue is spamming Mutilate and after 5stack of poison and 5cp I use envenom.. I did loose a bit of dps on my tank since I'm having to reposition mobs and what not, but maybe a rework on macros can fix that.. When I get off I'll post my macros from my tank and tell me what you think.