Holy Brick Wall Batman!

[Siaea]

So my Alliance shammies dinged 70 last night, and jeez, the XP difference was noticeable. All the way to 69 every quest I turned in gave half to nearly a complete bubble, now i get like 1/16 for even a group quest. Do the heirloom items stop working at 70? This is gonna suck. Not to mention the over abundance of collect quests.

On another note, I tried UK this morning and can't get past the first few 3 mob pulls without wiping. Starting to get frustrated.

/end rant

[Slimjim19]

heirloom items work to 80. Be sure to use the cold weather training book to fly in Northrend. It speeds up questing big time.

I thought my leveling 70-80 was about the same pace as 60 -70. I ran Howling Fjord, Borean Tundra, Dragon Blight, Grizzly hills. That got me to 77 where I headed to Icecrown. I had a guide, but it basically ran enough quests in each zone to get the title.

[Coltimar]

This is a very common place to get stuck. What is your team comp? On all three of my teams I had to retool, re-do macros and get a couple of the blue quest items before I could do much in UK. I finally work my way to the Prince and beat on him until I down him, then things get noticeably better.

[Fursphere]

If you're not using a true tank and healer, prepared to be dissapointed.

The BC 5x Shaman days ended at BC. You need to do instances the way Blizzard intended now...

[lacitpo]

Gear your tank.

You can get the entire Crafted Cobalt Set (http://www.wowhead.com/?items&filter=qu=2;na=cobalt;minle=142;maxle=142;ub=2;cr= 131:86;crs=1:2;crv=0:0) for a paladin tank made pretty cheap.

[Siaea]

I do have cold weather flying. Also, I'm running 5 shaman again mainly for PvP at 80, but I guess I'll have to run a tank like I did with my Horde team. I suppose I can faction transfer my DK.

[Gramzngunz]

I remember trucking right along and then I hit Northrend too. I won't lie. The grind from 70-80 was VERY painful and slow for me, but oh the fun I've had at 80... :D

[MiRai]

I thought my leveling 70-80 was about the same pace as 60 -70.
I beg to differ. You can do 60-70 in an entire weekend if you're bored. You definitely cannot do 70-80 in an entire weekend.

[Lyonheart]

I do have cold weather flying. Also, I'm running 5 shaman again mainly for PvP at 80, but I guess I'll have to run a tank like I did with my Horde team. I suppose I can faction transfer my DK.


Faction transfers are broke atm. They can happen instantly or take a day or more. I have transfered several of my toons to horde in the past few weeks. Some went through in minutes and 4 have taken a few days. There is a 70+ page forum thread in the CS support forums about it.

[Malekyth]

Northrend kicks ass. There are collection quests in all zones, but only a couple (Zul'Drak, Grizzly Hills) are unusually bad for a boxer, and I wouldn't blame you if you didn't set foot in either. Dragonblight, Scholozar Basin, Icecrown and Storm Peaks are awesome questing zones once you can fly. I just got my third team to 80, and I hit the cap before I even got out of Dragonblight (with two heirlooms each and doing the daily dungeon every day) so I don't believe all the pain that some people have with the continent.

[Maxion]

If you're not using a true tank and healer, prepared to be dissapointed.

The BC 5x Shaman days ended at BC. You need to do instances the way Blizzard intended now...

NOT True.

My 5 Shamans killed several bosses in northrend instances on the way to 80, even full cleared Gundrak at 75.

It's just a lot easier with a real tank, and optional healer (as long as someone is healing).

[Hivetyrant]

NOT True.

My 5 Shamans killed several bosses in northrend instances on the way to 80, even full cleared Gundrak at 75.

It's just a lot easier with a real tank, and optional healer (as long as someone is healing).

It's true, especially if they are geared.

I hoped into a group last week that had 4 shamans (on my priest as heals)
I was ready to leave when the player said "Keep me up and watch this!"

We cleared Heroic Gun Drak in record time, shaman teams are OP :D

[Fursphere]

"if they are geared"

Oh, you mean rolling i200 content w/ 232s? /facepalm

[Ughmahedhurtz]

"if they are geared"

Oh, you mean rolling i200 content w/ 232s? /facepalm

This.

Yes, it is _possible_ to do 5-shaman groups in Northrend dungeons.

BUT.

To do it, you'll have to bring the best possible gear AND macros/pets/consumables/etc. that set you up specifically for that (no tank) situation.

With bosses that are pure ezmode tank n spank, I could see you struggling through it once you got past the gear/level check. For bosses like Ingvar the Plunderer, I just can't see how you would successfully get through that fight as a 5-DPS group at level without spending money on shadow resist pots, raid-level consumables, twink-ish enchants on all your gear, Best-In-Slot gear for your level, etc. And it would seem to me to be paradoxical that you'd need BiS gear to defeat the bosses that give you the BiS gear.

I'd love to be proven wrong.

[Ualaa]

Sometime in early BC, they reduced the experience needed per level for 1st to 60th, by 30%. In early WotLK, they did the same for BC content.

Effectively, 1st to 70th only requires 70% as much experience as it did when that was current content.

Add to this two 10% heirloom items, which stack (0.90 x 0.90 = 0.81 = 19%) for a 49% reduction in required experience per level for 1st to 70th.

Without heirlooms and the experience reductions, each level from 1st to 70th would have taken nearly twice as long. If a given quest was giving a half a bubble, it would have given a quarter of a bubble without heirlooms when that was the current content.

[Shodokan]

I beg to differ. You can do 60-70 in an entire weekend if you're bored. You definitely cannot do 70-80 in an entire weekend.

I did 70-78 in 1 weekend and i didn't even play the entire weekend. Close enough?

[MiRai]

I did 70-78 in 1 weekend and i didn't even play the entire weekend. Close enough?
No. You're still 3.3 million XP short of being max level. Which is essentially levels 60-67 according to this (http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:XP_To_Level).

[Hivetyrant]

"if they are geared"

Oh, you mean rolling i200 content w/ 232s? /facepalm
Yes, that's exactly what I meant, hence why I said it /facepalm

[Fursphere]

No, you inserted the word "especially" - implying that it can be done without over gearing the content.

[Hivetyrant]

It can be done in 219/226 as well, but most people don't consider that "geared" anymore.

Regardless, does it really matter?

[Shodokan]

No. You're still 3.3 million XP short of being max level. Which is essentially levels 60-67 according to this (http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:XP_To_Level).

I could have finished but i got too bored >_>

[Ughmahedhurtz]

It can be done in 219/226 as well, but most people don't consider that "geared" anymore.

Regardless, does it really matter?

In the context of the discussion we were having with the OP as to why hitting 70 and trying to do NR instances felt like hitting a brick wall, yes, it absolutely DOES matter. Giving someone unreasonable expectations on difficulty isn't helpful.

Example: "Sure, it can be done. Hell, I did dungeon x at dungeon_x_required_level - 3!" Not helpful.
Example: "Sure, it can be done. But you'll definitely need tweaked configs and probably the best gear/enchants/consumables/etc. you can find because it isn't an easy task without an honest tank." Helpful.
Example: "Sure, it can be done, but I've yet to see anyone do more than a few specific bosses without outgearing the instance by large amounts (i.e.: rolling Heroic Gundrak in full i219/226+ gear)." More helpful.
Example: "Sure, it can be done. You'll probably need to make sure you spec enough resto for <spell_h> and be sure to get <glyphs of a and b> so you don't run out of mana before the boss dies. Some bosses, like X will give you trouble unless you use strat Y. And you'll need to make sure you're enchanted and use consumables and certain cooldowns to reliably clear that place. And I wouldn't even bother trying to clear instance Z until you're 78 and have one of the good crafted sets or farm up all the blue instance gear you can get first." Most helpful.

Some of the conversations around here lately are starting to resemble the movie UP.

*post*
*conversation*
*point*
*counterpoint*
*alternative*
"SQUIRREL!!!"
...
*continued conversation*
HxoWHeoYU3g

[Fursphere]

It can be done in 219/226 as well, but most people don't consider that "geared" anymore.

Regardless, does it really matter?

Ughmahedhurtz (http://www.dual-boxing.com/member.php?u=843) pretty much made my point for me - and much nicer than I would have done.

If you're going ilvl 200 content (meaning, thats what drops there), you're doing it with what it was intended to be done with - because nothing higher was available. (yes, 213 was available to raiders, but that was a narrow crowd when the content was first released). At the same time this means that you started said content with something LOWER than i lvl 200 gear (walk before you can run and all that). So take your i187 geared 5x shaman group into any of the Wrath Heroics and tell me how you do.

Not farming up PvP gear or buying various crafted / BoE epic gear off the AH. Or pugging each toon until you get a good mix of 219/226/232 gear and then going "I FIVE SHAMAN HEROICS!" - because you really didn't. You overgeared it and brute forced it. Kinda like rolling Deadmines at level 40.

Anyway, since you'd rather argue irrelevant points instead of just admitting you're wrong, I'll just say good day to you.

[Maxion]

It appears you guys have taken this a bit out of context.
The original post was talking about northrend instances starting at level 70, not heroics at 80 (though they are possible too, at least some of them right after hitting 80, and more as you get more gear of course).
Hence my post about clearing gundrak at 75, and assorted other single bosses before that, at level.

[Hivetyrant]

I apologise, I thought this was a forum, where people could post opinions and have discussions.
It's hard enough making your few first posts on this forum without being trolled or harassed by the elitist people here.

You wonder why people don't like multi boxers, it's because many of them are as rude as you guys.

I hope your happy.

And OP, I apologise for derailing your thread, I didn't realise my post would be taken word for word and out of context.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

I apologise, I thought this was a forum, where people could post opinions and have discussions.
It's hard enough making your few first posts on this forum without being trolled or harassed by the elitist people here.

You wonder why people don't like multi boxers, it's because many of them are as rude as you guys.

I hope your happy.

And OP, I apologise for derailing your thread, I didn't realise my post would be taken word for word and out of context.

I armoried your post. Nice gear.
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I see your 8-pc ability procced. All you need is [Martyr's Sword of Tragedy] to fall on and you'll have the full set!

[thefunk]

Rather than getting annoyed at some people, look at the context they are saying their point. I agree with fur on this as levelling 70-80 in a weekend is completely unrealistic to a relative newcomer like me. It took me weeks and weeks to level to 80. There seems to be a little showing off to boot which is also not helpful and should be put in context. How did you do it? Did you have heirlooms/bg's/boosting in dungeons etc... So don't get annoyed if you are brought back in line by the experienced boxers here, regardless of their tone of voice.

To the op. I'm dreading hitting northrend, my second team hitting 62 and going really quickly. Good luck

[crowdx]

My 2 cents, if you play for about 4 hours a day you should ding 1 level each day (if you quest 90% of the play time :) ) .
Shodokan is not someone anyone should gauge their own progress by.

[Shodokan]

Rather than getting annoyed at some people, look at the context they are saying their point. I agree with fur on this as levelling 70-80 in a weekend is completely unrealistic to a relative newcomer like me. It took me weeks and weeks to level to 80. There seems to be a little showing off to boot which is also not helpful and should be put in context. How did you do it? Did you have heirlooms/bg's/boosting in dungeons etc... So don't get annoyed if you are brought back in line by the experienced boxers here, regardless of their tone of voice.

To the op. I'm dreading hitting northrend, my second team hitting 62 and going really quickly. Good luck

Pure questing. Heirloom WG shoulders and weapon along with BOA chest from badges. The amount of EXP from bgs and dungeons isn't close to the EXP per hour you can get from questing, especially if you 1 shot every mob in sight (which you should mostly be doing if you have heirloom gear) It also can depends on group makeup, some quests/dungeons might be annoying for some classes where as for others they are not. An example of this is druids in flight form being able to pick up items like siege bombs for the quest in DB (horde) or the zepplin parts near honor hold etc...

I hit northrend and had no rested whatsoever. Most levels should take between 3 and 4 hours with heirloom gear... some a little longer in places that have annoying collection quests like zuldrak and sholozar basin. But you SHOULD be able to ding 80 before leaving ZD with BOA, and after sholozar otherwise. This was over my 10th time through all these quests though so i knew where to go and what quests to do in what order with no help from guides or addons and whatnot. The major time saver is flight form... without it you can take forever to do some of the areas. My shaman were taking close to twice as long per level as my rets/dk are.

Regarding the "newcomer" part... without having the perks of already having 80s yes boxing to 80 cannot be done in a weekend. There isn't enough time in the day to be able to do that. But with heirlooms and regular flying you should be able to do 10 levels in 30 to 50 hours. So i mean it is very possible to do, but point of fact is that many people who multi-box do it because of the freedom it brings. Most seem to have a family, a job or something else they spend time on. Most people cannot afford to or simply do not wish to put 30 to 40 hours into WoW in a three day period. Not to mention that questing for 30 to 40 hours can give you WoW burnout hardcore.

[kate]

I did a bit of reframing of the idea of what "progress" means in order to not feel like I'm being stupidly slow when leveling up.

My 5x paladin team is the first *real* multiboxing team I've made, and I wanted it to be as much of a learning experience as possible: I rolled on a new server, no heirloom gear or other help, no RAF, and instead of questing to level I primarily (90% or so) did instance runs. They hit level 70 this weekend, are about 2/3rds of the way to 71, and I think my /played is something around 8.5 days (each, of course) when my best time to 80 (with one character) was a little over 4.5 /played.

But what helps me feel like I'm making progress even when I'm going so slowly is:

- Learning dungeons I either hadn't done in a LONG time or never did at all
- Timing my dungeon runs and seeing how I get quicker/survive more easily in fights as I figure them out
- Not using wowhead or other sources to figure out strategies for dealing with bosses, but just learning the fights I didn't already know
- Figuring out novel ways to abuse the fact that I am running 5 perfectly synchronized members of the same class, because in some ways it's VASTLY outperforming teams that are comprised of individual players from different classes

These are the things that I have fun with in WoW - so for me, the fact that my time to level is so long is totally OK because I'm enjoying it. I'll also enjoy my next team - how quickly will I be able to get people to the level cap when I have heirloom gear & funding & also know all the slow spots where I wasted a LOT of time. And the team after that - I'm going to do only questing to level up (including dungeon runs necessary to finish quests, of course).

tl;dr version - enjoy the trip AND the destination, find a way to make the process of leveling fun

[Dorffo]

I armoried your post. Nice gear.


I see your 8-pc ability procced. All you need is [Martyr's Sword of Tragedy] to fall on and you'll have the full set!

so full of win

[Myc]

I ran into the same problem. went from 60-70 over night it seemed.. cleared almost all the outland dungeons as i went also.
hit northrend, went to do some UK for gear and got smashed. questing isn't the best either. i actually didn't get on for 3 days and instead, got the pool ready for plastering before summer because hitting the brickwall of slow leveling was so frustrating.

though I think my group would be a little stronger than a all shammy group so i may just swap one of my Rets to be a Holy
and my DK blood tank is not bad geared i have full Cobalt set.

anywho.. I am sick of being low levels! :mad:argh want to go back to 80 stuff


any good grinding spots 70-80? :D

[thefunk]

tl;dr version - enjoy the trip AND the destination, find a way to make the process of leveling fun

This. I do often struggle when I hit 80 and therefore reroll and redo all the levelling again with a new team. Just the idea of doing the same thing over and over and over and over and over again for rep gain/gear would encourage me to have a few days on alternative games (tiger woods '06, any Wii game, boulder dash on pc emulator).

I always felt the time between hitting 80 and having gear to start having fun in raids & bg's was the most painful in my experience in WoW.

[SaraiE]

I just got my first team to 70. Being a newcomer to MB and LK, without BOA items and flight in NR, it can be annoying to lvl esp. if you are on a PVP server. Seems like every 20 minutes or so, a skull horde would land on my team and wiped it while I am doing something. Not knowing where stuffs are and where to go also slow things down.

And yes, work and family is always a priority. I do envy Shokodan (Colin?)!!!!

my two pennies~
SaraiE

[Diwa]

any good grinding spots 70-80? :D

Since you have a lvl 80 pally, you should have started doin UK at lvl 65.

Just reset every 12min and check the lowest possible level to enter a specific instance from here.
http://www.wowwiki.com/Instances_by_level

If you don't like the regular questing, you can just pickup the quest that is related to a given dungeon for added xp and equip rewards.

Que to AV also. It's a good way to change your dungeon grind phase and have fun at the same time.

[Siaea]

So, I made this post on 3/31, and this morning I dinged 80. I guess it wasn't too bad, I only played a couple hours a day. Now comes the fun part. . .gear :(

[Myc]

So, I made this post on 3/31, and this morning I dinged 80. I guess it wasn't too bad, I only played a couple hours a day. Now comes the fun part. . .gear :(

hah, you know what I thought was strange.. in northrend ive gone 2x as fast as outland.
my lack of time logged is holding me back my whole team is still full rested =p

but 25 badges from daily. and like 100ish stone keeper shards and 15ish wg marks is always nice.
im just glad i am done leveling with stupid lowlevelness and can get back into the '80' world.
though I cant decide if i will need to make a healer for my team or not.. hmm

Grats though. gear shouldnt be to hard if you do your daily dungeon / daily heroic. wg here n there. craft some stuff?

[Toned]

70-80 first time through with no flying or boa items = PITA.

2nd time through is a much more pleasant experience.

[kate]

70-80 first time through with no flying or boa items = PITA.

2nd time through is a much more pleasant experience.

That is no lie - I cannot wait to hit 80 with my first team on this new server just so I can get flying. I wound up having to stop doing instances and start doing quests because I'd have cut my wrists running a level-appropriate instance at least 10x for each level, and without flight Northrend goes a bit slow.

[Siaea]

Flight definitely helped, even though they're still about 7k shy of all 5 getting epic. Now I need to level a pally so I can run some instances...

[Toned]

Flight definitely helped, even though they're still about 7k shy of all 5 getting epic. Now I need to level a pally so I can run some instances...

I love the shamx4 + pal setup but if I was rerolling a tank I'd go with a Dk just for the 13% dmg buff, but that is changing in Cat so really it's looking like Pal 3 sham lock/boonkin will be the new pve group. I probably won't change my main team I use the 4x shams in pvp and 10/25mans :)

[Myc]

Flight definitely helped, even though they're still about 7k shy of all 5 getting epic. Now I need to level a pally so I can run some instances...

oh man 7k EACH?
gotta work on that I was so happy the second I could get epic flying again.
atleast we can now get mounts at level 20

[Siaea]

No, I'm at about 18k, it's about 25k for 5 mounts/training.

[crowdx]

20k for training if you have rep and go to that factions trainer. I did it last week an Valliance Keep and it was 4k, nice 1k saving :)

[Moorea]

I apologise, I thought this was a forum, where people could post opinions and have discussions.
It's hard enough making your few first posts on this forum without being trolled or harassed by the elitist people here.

You wonder why people don't like multi boxers, it's because many of them are as rude as you guys.

I hope your happy.

And OP, I apologise for derailing your thread, I didn't realise my post would be taken word for word and out of context.

Sooner you learn about "ignore" feature (click on fursphere; view profile; user list; add to ignore) the happier you'll be on those forums

And to add something somewhat relevant to the thread: 70-80 is a LOT more pain and effort and a lot less fun and fast than 60-70 which is now a breeze... I know I kind of abandoned 2 teams at 72

[Shodokan]

Sooner you learn about "ignore" feature (click on fursphere; view profile; user list; add to ignore) the happier you'll be on those forums

And to add something somewhat relevant to the thread: 70-80 is a LOT more pain and effort and a lot less fun and fast than 60-70 which is now a breeze... I know I kind of abandoned 2 teams at 72

I abandoned my mages at 73 myself.

[Mystic]

It is sort of funny how you forget just how difficult the northrend instances were when you tried them at level or just under level (toon level and gear level both), because once you get over the hump (higher level or much better gear), they become quite easy. This is true for the regular and the heroics.

Leveling via northrend instances is good practice and fair XP (overall, not per hour), but honeslty until you outgear/outlevel them, you are asking for troubles (unless you have a solid mixed team and are very talented with controlling them manually or via lots of clever macroing), and your xp/hr will be abysmal. Stick with questing, and if you have heirloom +XP pieces, you will zoom with questing.

If you insist on instances at level, make one of your toons a dedicated healer, gear him for healing specifically, and learn to heal with him.

Prior to northrend, all my box teams I took through any instance had no issues whatsoever doing them at level, and never needed a dedicated healer. Northrend instances at level this is not the case. You need to outlevel the instance, outgear the instance, or run a dedicated healer with on-level healing gear.

I will say that the four shaman and paladin tank were the easiest comp to take instances at level for me, even without making one of the shaman a dedicated healer. I struggled here and there, ended up making one a dedicated healer, but even with good healing reflexes, macros, etc, it still was less fun than just doing double duty dps and heal with all four shaman, so I switched him back to dps. Without a dedicated healer I could take most instances when I was one or two levels above what most non-boxed teams hit them at. They work so well at dual-duty because the dps gear works well as healing gear, since both specs require +sp. This is not the case with other non-mixed teams. You need two sets of gear.

Next team to take the whole way through was DK + 4 Rets. Northrend instances were definitely a brick wall. I tried UK at 70 and just plain took too much damage. It is not melee team friendly at 70 with normal 70 gear. Without a dedicated healer it was plain tough. I could limp through with a couple deaths every other trash pull, and a few wipes on each boss, but it just wasn't worth it. The Rets healed like crap with dps gear. I tried the dedicated healer thing again, but it's just not my style, so I just quested for gear, and went back when I outleveled/outgeared it a couple of levels. Same thing for heroics.

Now I just hit 70 with my 5x druid team. I steamrolled through all pre-NR instances, with all of them feral, 1 bear and 4 cats. I popped 4xrejuv for trash, or for tough trash or bosses I popped 4xrenew, at the start, and hardly ever had to pop back to caster to refresh them before the fight was over.

I tried UK last night with them, all geared on level, and I struggled through with them all feral (bear+4 cats), again with 4xrenew on tank, then pull, the caster/cat toggling to heal. It works well, but again, this place is not so melee friendly, especially without a dedicated healer. Too much AE/splash damage. I tried making the 4 dps into moonkins, with about 50% healing gear and 50% feral since I wanted to see if it was viable and I had no full sets of healing gear collected. My dps doubled, but I went OOM in a near instant, and got clobbered by the trash that was so simple with the 4xcats. OOM means no dps and no heals with oomkins.

It was very apparent that I forgot again just how tough these are at level without a dedicated healer. So, I threw in the towel on doing the intances at level and am just suffering the questing until I outlevel/outgear them. I'm just not going to pain myself with a dedicated healer when I can just quest instead. It's level 80 that matters anyway.

[kate]

Well, I don't know if you need to outgear them - but they are certainly more challenging at level than other instances are. Going through vanilla was easy, going through BC was only a little harder (learning to handle certain gimmicks), but Northrend has the only instances that routinely resulted in a wipe unless I was really on my toes.

Northrend heroics are still a big challenge to me - even the entry level ones can result in a wipe still as I gear up.

[alcattle]

I am leveling via instances because I am tired of questing and to learn the dungeons. My 1st 2 80 had zero time in any LK dungeon so the struggled, the DK is still behind the curve. Also healing is fun and not that hard as you get to know the classes.
Most DKs are sux Tanks before 80. I know because I am one, but I had one today; 20HP and not Def Capped, went down like a stone even with every heal on him. Pallys were usually the best, some of them healed the group more than I had to.

[Malgor]

This post is a month old, but for me the brick wall is always 70-71. After that you have enough blue gear from quests that you can easily do UK and then Nexus later on. 70-71 seems slow. 72-75 (where I am at now) has gone pretty fast.

[Seldum]

I run 5x druids, with 3xboomkins, 1x resto and a bear. This is my first toons ever at 80, so no heirloom or early flying in NR for me :)

I have mixed up dungeons and questing in NR. Prior I only did quests with my team. I kept all the toons within the same lvl until around 74. Then I had a quest burnout. I actually stopped playing my team, and solo leveled my tank in instances, both to learn how to tank and to learn the instances.
My initial plan was to gear out the tank a bit, and then pickup the rest of the team.

I had so much fun with my tank, that I hit 80 and continued gearing him. Atm. he got a blend of iL200 and 245 gear, and I have picked up my team again. The only quest chain I did was the Wrathgate quest chain, the rest of the leveling went through the dungeon finder with my team.
I'm still a bit sick of doing quests, and from 70-80 have been the toughest leveling experience for me.

My original plan was to farm badges and stoonkeeper shards to purchase heirlooms for my paladin team currently at lvl 13, and then begin leveling them for the fun of it. But since it has taken me /played of 15 days to level my druid team, i'm currently uncertain if I want to pickup the paladin team - even though I have laughed so hard at the 5 paladins chopping away at everything, I never get tired of that.

Gearing my tank way better than the rest of my team, made the leveling in instances a breeze.

[Drommon]

Seldum,

I did the same thing as you did but with some differences. My tank is a warrior and he led a mixed team. About level 72 I got tired of questing so I BGed my tank to 80 and then I did heroics to gear him up. Then I instanced my team from 72-77 without a hitch but got bored of doing instances. In April I picked of my pally team (level 42 at the time) and I have been questing the whole time and they are now 76 level. 5xpallys are so much fun. I made them all shockadins recently and they just tear through stuff like nobodies business. Now I actually enjoy doing the NR collection quests. There is no downtime. Between level 68 to 76 I picked 16000 gold just from questing, trash and vendoring the quest rewards.

I didn't bother getting heirlooms for the pally team. All this tells me that party composition plays a role in how you want to play the game. I realized that I needed to do things fast, its just the way I am personally. The 5xpally team is homogenous in both race an class and was a snap to use and setup. Plus they smash stuff up!

So get on your pally team!