A slightly different twist on gearing my tank/healer

[crowdx]

Hi all,
so during the week I will most likely ding 80 on my new team, I am currently 78. last night I tried HoL and got owned on the first boss :( . With this in mind I am thinking that my best way to gear this team in heroics would be either to switch my tank to heals (druid) and drop in my filly geared pally tank or drop in my Resto druid instead of my priest.
I think eaither will work and once I get 4 of the team pretty well geared I can drop back in the toon I originally switched out?
What do you guys think? I want the team to gear as a team as much as possible and so soloing some PuGs with the tank or healer is not something I would really like to do :)
All views welcome :)

[Khatovar]

Personally, I'd probably drop the priest and bring in the druid so you can keep your tank in the group getting drops. The faster the tank gears up, the easier it will make things.

[Asuka]

Are you willing to queue up for specific dungeons and only take out a few bosses here and there?

Ignore the randoms queue for now and go pick off the easy bosses in heroics. I did that when I first got my druid to 80. I crafted the blue pvp set for my druid tank and disc priest. The dps wore the gear they picked up from leveling. You're going to be drinking alot and you'll be picking up emblems for the whole group. Actually don't ignore the random queue. Queue up for a random, if you feel you can do it, go for it. If not, requeue for a specifc dungeon that you think you can spend 15mins in.

I started farming UK, first boss in UP, Snake and Moo in GD, first two in HoL, slow walks in CoS when I first got to 80. Eventually you will be able to watch tv while farming frost with this group.

[crowdx]

Well I have a fully epiced out first group which have badges coming out their ears but after my HoL fail last night I am wondering would it be faster to swap out either the healer or tank and in that way down more of the end bosses and get some extra epics on the way.
My plan is to farm UK, Gun and DTK to start with and then move on to some others after that.
I suppose I could just drop the tank into the fully geared team and nuke through some dungeons faster and gear the tank that way.

[crowdx]

Personally, I'd probably drop the priest and bring in the druid so you can keep your tank in the group getting drops. The faster the tank gears up, the easier it will make things.

On the above I think this is what I am leaning towards but it would mean respeccing the new tank to resto and then use my pally tank which in regular heroics needs very little healing at this point. Once the tank was geared I could then drop the priest back in and gear her.
Btw my druid tank is here : http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Uther&cn=Ruthger
and priest is here : http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Uther&cn=Desiresend

[Shodokan]

I personally would heal on your druid until your tank and DPS get fully geared. THEN gear your new healer either by itself or with your team. It is important that your tank is geared very well like others have said. Just do what you think is best. If you are in no rush to get gear take your time and do randoms slowly and such. You can do all heroics in blues it just takes a while.

[crowdx]

I have already bought the chest, bracers and belt epics for the tank (saw at good price during the weekend :) ) and have a leather worker also but thinking that I do not want to invest in doing a lot of gearing to the team other than drops or emblem gear. I think the team with a good tank out front should be able to clear most content, just a little slower.
Looking forward to seeing the potential of my 3 shamies which is the reason I leveled this team, i.e. I wanted to see what a priest and 3 shammies could do vs my current pally, resto druid, warlocks and hunters.
Still getting to grips with their totems :D

[zenga]

Why not mix it up?

HC 1 u bring in your geared healer, HC 2 u bring in your geared tank, HC3 again your healer ... that way they stay more or less on par and you will be able to play them as a team faster.

[crowdx]

Would it not be faster to fully gear the tank who at that point would not need as much heals once the undergeared healer is dropped back in? The only issue I could see in playing as a full team once the tank is geared would be ICC 5 man dungeons with the lower geared toon might not allow the team to queue for them?

[Shodokan]

Would it not be faster to fully gear the tank who at that point would not need as much heals once the undergeared healer is dropped back in? The only issue I could see in playing as a full team once the tank is geared would be ICC 5 man dungeons with the lower geared toon might not allow the team to queue for them?

Unless you are a super geared druid or pally tank you are always going to need SOME heals. The undergeared healer MAY be enough but it may not be, even if your tank has full t9. We all obviously know that 3-4 passive healers with offhealing can be enough, i assume any healer can match that atleast on the lower end of the spectrum of heals.

[crowdx]

Well my tanks is all t9 at about 4900 gs, and yes he will need some heals but I think that he might be fine in UK and the other dungeons I planned to farm.
Obviously I would not go into ICC 5 man dungeons or some of the dungeons I have more difficulty clearing :)

[Greythan]

Or... use your highly geared DPS to blow through content with your tank and healer (i.e., get both geared first)? Might work in the "easier" boxing dungeons like Gundrak, Nexus, etc. I know my average boss fight wtih my team of DPS is in the <30 sec range. Pretty hard to lose a tank in that time. Just spam your big heals and you won't go OOM.

Just an alternative.

[zenga]

true that, you'll gear out your tank & healer much faster that way, you can even swap out a dps for the easier ones

[crowdx]

So a last question here, what crafted 78 blues would be worth getting for a pre 80 druid? Should I get the eviscerator set? (the lvl 78 blues set crafted) or should I just wait and do the troll shoulders and belt and do cheap enchants to that once I hit 80?
I really do not think in his current gear any healer could keep him up in an heroic.

[Shodokan]

So a last question here, what crafted 78 blues would be worth getting for a pre 80 druid? Should I get the eviscerator set? (the lvl 78 blues set crafted) or should I just wait and do the troll shoulders and belt and do cheap enchants to that once I hit 80?
I really do not think in his current gear any healer could keep him up in an heroic.

It can be cheaper and more useful to use BOE blues from the AH with level 78 that drop from heroics that people sell for cheap. It costs far less than materials for pvp 78 sets.