Chained RAF can someone make it clear?

[Zeratul]

Hi,

as read in another post is this true:

if I have RAF liek this:

A->B->C->D

I give 30 Levels from a level 60 to C from D on a new char
now I can give 15 Levels from C to B from the new char plus 30 Levels from my level 60(is this true?) so its 45 Levels ?
now I can give 30 levels from my 60 from B to A and for the newly level 45 I can give another 22 ?

Can you make it clear?

Another q can I grant levels to chars on other realms and if so, how do you do it?

Ceers Jens, Level 58,5 on 1st Team of five!!!!

[alcattle]

ok, I will try.

your chain A->B->C->D

Granting is the opposite. D->C->B->A

Each toon can grant a maximum of 30 levels to another toon.

D is at 60, can grant 30 levels to C's toon until they get to 60.

So most people play 2-3 groups to 60. Then level some toons to 30. (1-30 is faster then 30-60)

Grant levels. you will have a lot of levels to chain grant to make more 60s.

[Zeratul]

Hi there and thanks, but it did not really answer my question.

To make it easy:

lets pretend I have RAF A->B->C and I played a team up to 60.

Now I grant 30 Levels from C to B so lets pretend I use a new char for this:

On C I have nothing to grant any more. On B I have a level 60 that can grant 30 levels to A and I have a level 30 from the granted levels of C ok?

Now what I want to know is:

Can the level 30 on B that is made up of granted levels from C grant 15 levels to A?

Kind regards, Jens

[murat]

Hi there and thanks, but it did not really answer my question.

To make it easy:

lets pretend I have RAF A->B->C and I played a team up to 60.

Now I grant 30 Levels from C to B so lets pretend I use a new char for this:

On C I have nothing to grant any more. On B I have a level 60 that can grant 30 levels to A and I have a level 30 from the granted levels of C ok?

Now what I want to know is:

Can the level 30 on B that is made up of granted levels from C grant 15 levels to A?

Kind regards, Jens

What he means is a grant leveled toon can grant its half of levels to his referer?

I think yes. There is no statement that says only played levels can be granted.

I also have a question. Can D grant level to B or A?

[Zeratul]

Well I can answer this one: No you cant.

Anyway I belive that the RAF to main account thing makes more sense, but I made an error and at least my first team is chained RAF. I already changed (added 3 more wow licenses for 5€ each which is ok 4 me) so I have alle the accounts bound to A for my next team. So for one team played to 60 I get 2 Level 60 chars on my main acc.

Still I wanna get the best out of the stuff I have...


Cheers, jens

[crowdx]

From previous answers on the same subject, i was told you can grant levels from a charactor which has been granted levels, i.e. if you use your level 60 to grant 30 levels to your level 1, then that level 1 (now a loevel 30) can grant 15 levels to another level one linked to a toon which it was referred from.
The key is that you can only grant levels to the account which referred that account, you cannot grant levels from the old account to the new account.
I have not granted levels from an account which has been leveled using only granted levels but in another thread which I created I was told it was possible.

[jimbobobb]

Well I can answer this one: No you cant.

Anyway I belive that the RAF to main account thing makes more sense, but I made an error and at least my first team is chained RAF. I already changed (added 3 more wow licenses for 5€ each which is ok 4 me) so I have alle the accounts bound to A for my next team. So for one team played to 60 I get 2 Level 60 chars on my main acc.

Still I wanna get the best out of the stuff I have...


Cheers, jens


Sorry, you are incorrect.


A->B->C->D

If you level D to 60
He has 30 free levels to grant to account C
That level 30 on C now has 15 levels to grant to B
That level 15 on B now has 7 levels to grant to A

Yes, it does INDEED cascade. It's why chaining like this is the correct procedure, and linking them all to account A is a mistake. Linking them all to A also makes it so you cannot boost.

Chain = yes, good times

no chain = frown town




Also you cannot grant levels to characters on other servers, or cross factions. You have to actually be targetting the character you wish to grant levels to.

[Ualaa]

You definitely want to chain your RAF.
Because you can grant levels based on levels which were granted to you.

There are a lot of different options.
But for the cascading of granted levels... to add up to full toons on the final account...
You need to boost two toons per link in the chain.

So if your chain was:
A -- B -- C
A -- D -- E
That is two links A -- B -- C and two again with A -- D -- E.
If A were to boost four toons on BCDE, CE would each give two toons to B/D (and based on those two toons, BD would grant a full toon each to A... this in addition to the two toons from the actual leveling).

If you have an existing toon to boost with.
And are starting on a new server fresh.
You'd want:
A -- B
A -- C -- D -- E
And to transfer your booster toon to B, not A.

If you want to not waste any of the cascade levels, you want a maximum of two links in the chain.
A -- B -- C
A -- D -- E
This is probably the best set up, for that purpose.

If you have more then one existing account, you can link up to two of them (the existing accounts) with new accounts.
If you own three or more accounts, you won't be able to RAF link them all at once, due to 5 toons maximum in a party.
Still, you can RAF from two of the accounts... finish all the boosting you want to do... and then RAF from the others.

If you already have toons on your accounts.
And the accounts are upgraded as far as you want them.
Let's say, Classic + Burning Crusade + Wrath of the Lich King + Cataclysm (not out yet).
You could RAF link two existing accounts to two new accounts (which are Classic only, nothing else).
Then boost the four accounts... two keeper accounts, and two disposable accounts.
Once done, ditch the disposable (classic wow only) accounts.
And repeat the process with two more keeper accounts + two more disposable accounts.

There are lots of options for RAF.



For the accounts to get RAF experience, you need all of these to be true:
a) You are grouped with an account your account is directly RAF linked to;
b) You are within a certain physical distance of the toon you are linked to;
c) You are within +/- four levels of the linked too;
d) The mob/quest is green or better for both toons;
e) Both your toon and the linked toon are level 59 or lower.

If you link like this:
A -- B -- C....
And A is level 80.
And B/C are level 10.
B can still get RAF, because of the link to C, even if the A/B link does not count because of the level disparity.

[alcattle]

If you already have toons on your accounts.
And the accounts are upgraded as far as you want them.
Let's say, Classic + Burning Crusade + Wrath of the Lich King + Cataclysm (not out yet).
You could RAF link two existing accounts to two new accounts (which are Classic only, nothing else).
Then boost the four accounts... two keeper accounts, and two disposable accounts.
Once done, ditch the disposable (classic wow only) accounts.
And repeat the process with two more keeper accounts + two more disposable accounts.

I was going to ask that question. I have 5 accounts upgraded to LK, I want to RAF 2 more to get shammies and pallies. Can a reg account play with a BC/LK account if the new account stays in the old areas?

So bc/lk A links to vanilla C, A plays Goatface Shammy C plays Dwarf Pally ( I can never spell Drain eye)

[jimbobobb]

I was going to ask that question. I have 5 accounts upgraded to LK, I want to RAF 2 more to get shammies and pallies. Can a reg account play with a BC/LK account if the new account stays in the old areas?

So bc/lk A links to vanilla C, A plays Goatface Shammy C plays Dwarf Pally ( I can never spell Drain eye)


Yup. They can play together no problem. Just the account without the expansions cannot enter the expansion areas or advance beyond the level allowed by their current expansion.

[Ualaa]

Basically create an Orc (horde) or Human (alliance), on the disposable RAF account.
And take your keeper toon to places the disposable toon can go, and group with them 1st to 60th.

You can even use the RAF summon ability to get your lowbie from Exodar/Silvermoon to Stormwind/Orgrimmar.

[Zeratul]

Hmmm I am concerned about my main acc getting the levels.

Assume A-B-C-D-E I get lvel 60 so I can

Add 30 Levels from E to
Add 45 Levels from D to C
Add 52 levels from C to B
Add 56 Levels from B to A so on Acc A i get to 56 levels

If I use A-B, A-C, A-D, A-E I get 30 Levels from every Acc meaning for one levelled Team I get 120 Levels on Acc A for one Team.

WHere am I worng now believeing that RAF A-B-C-D-E is not better ?

Ceers, Jens

[Myc]

Zeratul - I believe that would only work... if A recruited B-E
its a one way deal, the recruited can give the recruiter levels. (half of what ever they earn (up to level 60)
but of course as already stated you can give some from E ... so E has 15 to give then C has 7 to give and B has 3 to give.

A- Level 60 GIVES NOTHING. - gets.. total of 55
B- Level 60 gives 30^ + 15^ + 7 + 3
C- Level 60 gives 30^ + 15^ + 7
D- Level 60 gives 30^ + 15^
E- Level 60 gives 30^

so accounts would have a
A- Level 60 & 55
B- Level 60 & 52
C- Level 60 & 45
D- Level 60 & 30
E- Level 60

[MiRai]

Partial quote from another post of mine (http://www.dual-boxing.com/showpost.php?p=261632&postcount=7).


We're going to say A is the high level boosting account, and BCDE are all lowbies being boosted.

If:

A > BCDE...then the boosting will not work with 300% increased XP seeing as they're all linked to the high level, in turn, they're not 3 levels within their linked account(s).

If:

A > B > C > D > E...then boosting works fine because B is within 3 levels of C and C is within 3 levels of D, etc.

I'm going to assume you're boosting with a high level because you're concerned about granting levels to your main account. So example 1 won't work if you're boosting. Example 2 or something similar is the only way to boost. If you're leveling them the long way then you'll have 60's on each account. Unless you're just looking to have some lone 60's on your main account [with minimal groups being leveled] then example 2 is recommended.

[Khemikal]

If you are starting boxing and you want to have a lot of toons spread across all your accounts, and you are starting with only 1 old/main account (A), then you should chain your RAF links

A--B--C--D--E

This gives you cascading levels through your accounts and helps minimize the leveling you have to do.

NOTE: Always grant from your lowest level first when granting. If you have a 30 and a 60 on acct D and are starting to grant to C, use the 30. Grant the 30's 15 levels first then use the 60 to grant its 30 levels. If you do it the other way, you wont be able to use the level 30 on D to grant because the toon on C is level 30 as well. You have to grant to toons lower than the one attempting to grant levels.



If however you are boxing to quickly level some characters on your single main account you would want to link all characters to your main account. Then you can toss these 'disposable' accounts and never use them again.

A--B
A--C
A--D
A--E

Then you can get 2 free 60s for each team up to 60 you level. If you do 3 teams to 60 you would end up with 9 60s on your main account. Nice way for a solo player to get a ton of 60s in a month or so on a new realm if you have a bunch of $5 vanilla WoW's and don't mind paying the $60/month for the quick leveling. If you can do the 3 groups in a month, $60 might be well worth it to you.

[Ualaa]

For RAF (3x EXP) to work, each of these conditions must be true:
a) You are grouped with an toon directly linked to your account;
b) You are within a certain physical range of that toon;
c) You are within +/- four levels of that toon;
d) You are both level 59 or lower;
e) The mob/quest is not grey to either of you.

In the case of:
A -- B
A -- C
A -- D
A -- E
Each account only has their A -- X link, which means A must fulfill all of the five RAF conditions with each boosted account, or there will be no RAF.
If you were to character transfer your booster to one of BCDE, and boost with that toon... then the lowbie on A, grouped with four other lowbies would all receive RAF.

In the case of an:
A -- B -- C etc...
Even if A is level 80, and BC are level 22, B and C can both receive RAF.
Since the A/B link fails due to more then +/- four levels, and because A exceeds 59th level...
B is entirely reliant on the B/C link for RAF.
But if B/C meets all five conditions, then they both get RAF even if the A/B link fails.

And each account can only grant levels to the referring account to which they are directly linked.

Also, for the cascading levels to work out as full toons, you need to boost two toons per link.
Consider:
A -- B -- C
A -- B -- D
A -- B -- E
If A were to boost four toons on BCDE.
B (to A), C (to B), D (to B) and E (to B) each give two full toons (30 levels x4 = 120/60 = 2 toons).
B received six toons (two each from C/D/E), which is 360 levels, so it can grant 180 levels (180 /60 = 3 toons) to A, based on levels it has received.

However if A were to only boost 3 toons, the cascading levels would not add up to a full toon.
C/D/E each give B ninety levels, which is a three full 60's and three 30's.
The 60's can each give A thirty levels, and being 60's can grant levels even to level 59 toons.
However the three 30's can each only give 15 levels, and cannot grant levels to toons of 30th level or higher.

If you want the cascading levels to add up to full levels, boost two toons per hop in the links (counting from the first account you care about).
In an:
A -- B -- C -- D
...... B -- E
Where A has 10 full toons at 60+ already (so cannot receive any granted levels).
You are only concerned with what B can receive.
Counting from B, we have two hops to D and one hop to E.
So four or eight toons would be ideal.
And it is worth recruiting from A still, due to the Zhevra mount and free month when B pays for their 1st and 2nd months respectively.

[Zeratul]

Ah thats the point somewhere above:

I am not using a high level to boost, I am levelling 5 chars at a time. As said before my goal is to push my main acc. So if I play 1 group of 5 up, i get one level 60 playing, and 2 by granting level from accs B-E. (all are bound to A this is also why I get the 300%, cause my Acc A toon is new as well...) I am not an old player, I played for a few month then pause, and now I am boxing...

Still tings seem to change once played boxing, its hard to have no one behind you ;-)

CHeers, Jens