Group Leveling Question

[crowdx]

Hi all,
so maybe this should be in the new to multiboxing forum not too sure :).
So I have leveled 3 toons up to 68 and now joined them to 2 toons at 70, my 68s I then leveled up and are now close to halfway through 69 and the 70s are about half way through 70.
My question is that I use Zygorguide for my leveling guide and it works pretty good as a standalone guide but the issue I am running into with the guide is that the Northrend part of the guide is for 70 onwards and I took toons at 68.
Has anyone else run into this and if so did you circle back and complete quests you were not high enough for at the time or did you just skip completely and still have no issue hitting 80?
Thanks for all the help

[Coltimar]

In a similar situation I did 2 things. 1) gave 2 heirlooms to the lower toons and 2) did AV on my 2 mages during AV weekend and caught them up very quickly.

[crowdx]

Well all my team have the heirloom shoulders and chest pieces, but they only give kill XP ? So with the very small xp gained from killing stuff removing the higher toons heirlooms would probably not help a great deal.
I have done a little bit of running them in UK with my 80 druid but it is relatively slow going.
On my server AV queues are about 30 minutes.
I did think about running just the 3 lowbie toons through UK but unfortunately my main tank is on the same account as my lowbie tank and so I have no high level tank to run with the group. I did consider just running my lock with my druid in his tanking gear to help clear mobs faster but I am not sure how big of a hit my lowbies will take in XP vs the speed I clear the run at. Heals for my druid in his tanking gear might also be an issue but that would really only be on the boss fights (druid is normally resto)

[Slimjim19]

I started at 68 on 2 toons this weekend. I use Jame's horde leveling guide addon. I finished Howling Fjord to the point I got the zone achievement and only skipped 1 quest due to level and 1 quest (the sleeping king) due to the queen not being up.

I was over 70 when entering Borean Tundra so no leveling issues. I am 85 quests in and have 75 left for the zone achievement.

It has gone much faster then I though. I have the heirloom items, but the heirloom cold weather flying at 68 helped far more then anything else.

[wyofiddler]

Just dinged my second level 80 about a week ago, solo-boxing my future pally tank toon.

I used Joana's Guide for leveling both my 80's so far. DK was first to 80; no heirlooms, not much rested exp, no dungeon runs, etc and he hit 80 questing storm peaks and after that point I only finished the guide quests for the cash rewards at level 80. Pally was second toon to 80; only the hierloom shoulders, and I ran tons of dungeons on her with the team she's tank for which put her way up in level. She actually hit 80 questing through Zul'Drak, so she's gots several zones worth of quests if I want to run them for the cash.

Basically my point is that on my first 80 I had no exp bonuses or rested exp, and still got 80 before I even entered Icecrown, and I never went back to do to onesy-twosy quests I couldn't pick up at the moment due to level or whatever. I did get the quest achievements for most of the zones though, so if you do most of the quests in a zone you should see 80 go by well before you run out of quests to do in Northrend.

[crowdx]

I know when I leveled toons singlely (is that a word lol) I was 80 in Scholozar basin. The issues with doing a full team is that I tend to skip all the collection quests and so lose a lot of XP that way.
I am thinking at this point that I will just rest the three lowbie toons and then run them through a BC run to get them to 70, only 60% left so it should be pretty easy to do. Then it just leaves me with half a level of a difference which should get eaten up during the leveling process and it is not a bad thing to have a higher level healer :)

[Coltimar]

It will take longer, but just go back and do Area 52 and SMV. Also, I don't recommend AV just any old time. Like I said, I did it on a weekend when queues for 2 people were instant to 5 mins. You don't want to do quests in Northrend that your 70s are going to need to do, obviously, so you are limited in your options.

Another, less effective method, is to do collection quests you intend to skip only on those toons. That will take ages, however, and won't solve your current problem.

[crowdx]

You could be right and I might just bite the bullet and do the Area 52 and SMV quests, some of those are very boxer friendly :)

[Ualaa]

I used the Brian Kopp guide for 1st-70th and the Extreme Leveling Guide for 70th-80th.

From a one-boxing point of view, the collections aren't that bad.
From a five-boxing point of view, they can royally suck.
For the most part I skip collections, or maybe do them on only one toon.

Instance some, if your team can handle instances.
Do a lot of AV, anytime the queue's are not retarded.

The world events like Pumpkin collections or Elder's Coins, are generally worth close to a level as well.
Definitely take advantage of these events.

In Northrend, the only collection crap you need to do, is those that open dailies.
Some will have a reward you want, most can be forgotten.

[crowdx]

I am definitely considering doing some dungeons on my way to 80 but currently my tank is the least geared of the team and I think I will wait till the whole team is at 71 before attempting a full UK clear :) .
really looking forward to some dungeons on this team with the Shammies, fun to see the power of the totem which I am still a noob with :)

EDIT: I gotta say I do love Zygors Guide, it works really well and is totally standalone with built in guide and direction arrow, no other add ons needed.

[Manben]

When I get to that point of my toons beeing not high enough level I just doin a random dungeon or 2 to catch them up. I have an advantage of using my 80 warrior though.

[lans83]

I'm not following any guides written up by anyone, I'm just now work back and forth on my teams running around questing to level up, then hitting instances at level when need be. I'm only taking on the kill quests now and skipping collection quests to minimize the headache of leveling and grinding. Unless you really want to, go for any and all quests you can get your hands on that you'll gain xp off killing mobs. I ran all of the kill quests in Zangarmarsh last night with no collection quests on my Disc Priest leading 3 BM hunters and finished out the zone in just a couple hours, I got distracted a few times. I also had flying, so that made it faster for me. I went from 61-63 1/2 just from killing the right amount. Also finished up the ones in outside Shat and logged out before turning them in, I'll probly cap 64 from them alone, then gonna head to Nagrand then Blade's Edge.

Helpful tip if you plan on questing up in Icecrown on any of your teams. Turn on the notification in Jamba to let you know when your slaves fall off /follow, and have a separate key bound to have them move forward. No matter what quest or phase you're in with your team while goin thru IC, it is a pain in the ass, so to reduce stress and hairpulling (not the kinky kind either), I'd avoid IC for questing unless you really want to. I'm leveling without RAF and Heirlooms at the moment, but I won't quest there anymore on my new teams. Awesome questlines there, but a major PITA to repeat them. Again, to make questing go faster, just take on the kill quests, then grind out an instance or two for both gear and get to the next level range for the next zone if you're not yet high enough. Think of it this way, if it gets to be boring or frustrating, then change your approach to leveling up. I honestly don't know or go by any guides to get from 1-80 as soon as possible. Once I can get me some heirlooms, I'll just use my Pally team to boost my alts parked up at 1-20 thru the instances. Most of them are a pain to level up, and just want to use in end-game or BGs, so I'll just boost them that way.

If boosting get to be a bore for you, then you can always hire out anyone that's lvl 80 to run you thru some instance so all you have to do is loot. Providing you have the room in your party. Rested xp only applies to xp off kills, not quest turn-ins, so running out won't be bad unless you're grinding instances. That's when you want to park that team up to rest up and work on another in the mean time. 1-100% rested can be earned in about 10 days, providing they're parked up in an inn or city when logged out. Once my Pally team hit 70, I parked them up to rest up to 100%, I never ran out while questing from 70-80. I also never hit up the Northrend instances till they hit 73 and 80 either, regretting that now cause they're half ass geared. My preference, I wanted to do the quests atleast once for the lore.

If you do grind outside of instances, I'd highly suggest getting Skinning an either your main (+crit bonus will help with aggro) or a slave for dps and grind on the mobs in Borean Tundra. The leather sells well on the AH and the Arctic Furs are always a good sale. Or stock up for an alt LW, that's what I did.

[Seldum]

I diden't use any guides either. I used to go with Johanas or whatever the guide is called, but on my druid team I have just quested and run about as I saw fit.

Hit northrend at level 68, did alot of kill quests and only a couple of collection quests. Got stuck on lvl 75 due to being tired of questing. I then did some instances with my team, but it took to long. Wanting to improve my tank I did some PUGs and he is now sitting at 78,5 :)

I have also done some pugs with the healer and one of the dps.

Im considering doing more PUGS with the tank to get him to 80, then gear him a bit, and then return to my team and get the rest to 80 by doing instances. I think im done with Quests on this team. I got the achievement 1000 Quests at around lvl 74, so yes, I have done quite a few quests with these guys.

im just sick of quests... even kill quests...
Q: Kill this dude.
How I do the quest: Run directly to the mob I must kill, kill it and nuke all mobs I have pulled aggro on the way.... Then next quest.
Elites etc. it dosen't matter. With a tank (in dps mode) and 3 boomkins I kill everything in standard content.

Often I just activate Starfall and run through the camps of mobs... they fall like flies.

Everytime I see a collectionquest /spit.

[Targ]

Well all my team have the heirloom shoulders and chest pieces, but they only give kill XP ? So with the very small xp gained from killing stuff removing the higher toons heirlooms would probably not help a great deal.


Two Heirlooms add 20% on kill and quest exp, its a big deal. 2 free levels going from 70 - 80.

I am currently working my third team to 80 (currently just short of 78). I use the Zygorguide for all of my teams I love the guide for pointing you right where to go and how to do the quest, with on screen instruction. No switching around just follow the arrow. But, the guide skips the group quests be sure to look around for quests if they are group quests run them. The Group quests together with the heirlooms and you will out pace the quide pretty quickly. I skip most collections now.

Also for some reason the Guild does not have you do the dailies after you unlock them even though they are good for exp the first run. I add the first run of the dailies they are mostly easy I have done them so many times now from my mains they go very fast.

Tip: when you ding 77 start Storm Peaks. Following the guide while adding group quests and each daily once for exp while going through Storm peaks and Ice Crown you will have unlocked all the dailes and cleared all the Phasing stuff, just about the time you ding 80. On my last team I started at 78 and had way too many quest to run after I dinged 80, the cash was nice but I would have rather skipped more quests.

Don't forget to pass the Cold weather flying book from your mains to the alts. So you can start flying from the get go.

[crowdx]

Thanks all for your input. I bit the bullet last night and went back to Nagrand (like the ambience there :) ) , took about an hour or so to ding 70 doing the kill quests and also killed Durn for kicks. Now the 3 lowbies are at 20% into 70 and so should be fine to continue NR questing.
In most cases I like to just push through the quest grind and hit 80 asap, if I do a dungeon here and there I want it to be as painless as possible, if I do it a few levels up from the requirement I am thinking it should be similar to doing the heroics in some epic gear, but not tested that theory yet :P
I have cold weather flying on all my team and also have the BoA trinket on the shammies to help a little with spell power.
Again, thanks all for the input :)

[Gormand]

I have cold weather flying on all my team

*sigh* I am so jealous of that, my team is 66-67 right now and I wont be able to get CWF as its my first team to northrend :/ Im just going to have to milk outland for all its worth.

[Khatovar]

I have cold weather flying on all my team

That's why I like to stay in Outland until 70. That way I can hit Northrend with Epic Cold Weather Flying instead of having to go back to Outland at 70 to train Artisan Riding.

[zenga]

Im considering doing more PUGS with the tank to get him to 80, then gear him a bit, and then return to my team and get the rest to 80 by doing instances. I think im done with Quests on this team. I got the achievement 1000 Quests at around lvl 74, so yes, I have done quite a few quests with these guys.

im just sick of quests... even kill quests...

well i suggest you do the northrend quests at least to unlock the dailies. wowwiki has a good overview i recall. I basically copy/pasted that into a spreadsheet, spent a hour looking up what kind of quest it was and that way i was able to unlock my dailies and still profit from the xp (a big waste if u have to do those quests later anyway without xp). Though i feel ur pain :)

[Seldum]

Good point, ill have to look into that.

And I can second that it sucks not being able to fly in Northrend.... I don't have any main I can get cold weather flying from.... so it takes even longer when I have to run all over the place on my trusty old mount.

[crowdx]

The part that sucks about not having cold weather flying is having to navigate mobs. When you can fly it is simply pop from one location to the next. Makes life so much easier :)
What I have decided to do with the team to get them all in sync level wise is to do the collection quests on the lower toons until I have everyone matched up. I did this last night and it is starting to close the xp difference between the highest level toon and the lowest, which is about 40% of a level at present.

[coglistings]

honestly, unless you absolutely hate grinding and would rather do daily quests, i would mats farm in boringtundra the elementals near the horde camp. elemental airs sell well and good respawns, great for multiboxing also with little downtime.

[DrChaos]

Cold Weather Flying in 3.2

Quote from: Zarhym (Source (http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/18326615068-tome-of-cold-weather-flight.html#10))
Just to clarify, at level 80 players can buy this heirloom item for 1,000 gold and send it to an alt of the same realm, faction and account. The tome can be used to learn Cold Weather Flying at level 68, consuming the tome in the process.

Please note this feature is not yet in the newest version of the patch notes updated today. The item and its functionality are subject to change.

Patch Notes: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=17899680776&sid=1 (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=17899680776&sid=1)
More (Source (http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/18312416138-just-discovered-cold-weather-flying-at-68.html#32))
The tome costs 1,000 gold. It is not meant to bypass the cost of the training, but only to allow for level 80 players with alts the ability to fly in Northrend once they arrive at level 68. It's a small perk for those who like leveling new races or classes.

fly at 68

[crowdx]

You can only get regular flying at 68 in Northrend, you need to be 70 for Epic flying mount. I believe training can be gotten at the guy in Valiance Keep beside the flightpoint.

[Gormand]

The part that sucks about not having cold weather flying is having to navigate mobs. When you can fly it is simply pop from one location to the next. Makes life so much easier :)
What I have decided to do with the team to get them all in sync level wise is to do the collection quests on the lower toons until I have everyone matched up. I did this last night and it is starting to close the xp difference between the highest level toon and the lowest, which is about 40% of a level at present.

Yeah I will prob do this as well, my healer is a solid 150k+ XP ahead of the rest of my team and my tank is slightly behind the DPS so I may use collections to try and even out. I will just need to ensure I dont miss out on any good quest chains.