Best way to instance 60-65

[Shodokan]

I am wondering what you all would do for this.

My current plan is just to do Ramparts, but i'm not sure how that will work out. The reason being i can just sit my alts places etc...so if i were to run myself or get run it would make it easier.

What do you all think?

I see people say to go to underbog @ 63, but i'm not sure how that works out.

=D

[Ualaa]

Will you be running 5x Toons at the correct level for the instance.
Or using a geared level 80, to boost/run them through it?

[Shodokan]

Will you be running 5x Toons at the correct level for the instance.
Or using a geared level 80, to boost/run them through it?

Either my prot pally (80) or a friend, will be running.

[Ualaa]

I'd go Ramparts to 60, Furnace to 62, Underbog to 64, one of the Auchenai ones (there's one with predominantly melee mobs) to 66, and maybe Steamvault to 68 or so.

Something like that.

[Shodokan]

I'd go Ramparts to 60, Furnace to 62, Underbog to 64, one of the Auchenai ones (there's one with predominantly melee mobs) to 66, and maybe Steamvault to 68 or so.

Something like that.

only going to 65

I think single person boxing through ub would take quite a bit of time, moving them all and such.

[Zal]

I boosted in UB, very good instance that you can 2 pull if you do it right.

[Shodokan]

I boosted in UB, very good instance that you can 2 pull if you do it right.

Care to explain?

[Toned]

Zone in to Ghaz... after the tunnel to the stalker... 2 pulls

[drevil]

instance boosting (with 80er tank):
http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?p=257692#post257692

[crowdx]

I have leveled to 65 from 60 on a lot of my alts and I always use Ramps to about 63 mixing it with BF for the quests (worth doing) and then move to the Bone Waste instances, mostly the Mana Tombs which also has quests at 64. I use my druid to boost and the Mana Tombs is pretty decent for xp with only the second boss causing any issue (due to a stun and hitting hard even at 80 it can get a little shaky lol).
Once I hit 65 - 66 I normally just quest to 68.
I have heard of people bringing their toons to Northrend and grinding 60 - 70 on the rhino there and it has been posted here that it can be done in I believe 10 hours of play from 60 - 70. Remember Northrend mobs would probably give as much exp per mob to your group as a lvl 60 dungeon. Obviously you might have to compete for mobs in Northrend.

[Ualaa]

I've done the Northrend Rhino (Borean) Grind.

You need at least two toons in the party, to get the experience.
It has to be a party.
I did it with two toons.
An AoE type is preferable, for gathering mobs.

You need pet classes, shammies (totems are pets) are the best.
Have Stoneclaw on round-robin, the stun component rocks.

Gather a bunch, with lowbie AoE (Arcane Explosion rocks for this).
Then drop a Stoneclaw and 3x Magma, refreshing Stoneclaw as it is killed.

I got 5g per stack of 5 Rhino Meat, it is the Dalaran Cooking quest quite often.
It took 4 months to sell it all off, keeping 10-12 stacks of five on the AH daily.
I stopped looting, around level 65 or so, and had 250 stacks at that point.
Passing on the loot, will dramatically speed the process up.
But then again, even if the profit is over time, that was 5k gold in under 5 hrs farming.

If you are interested in leveling a team...
Not sure if this is a good method.
Two stoneclaws on round-robin, likely would not be enough, unless your pulls were a lot smaller then mine.
Also 2x Magma's would take longer to kill things, and experience would go three ways requiring more time.
You could try to boost three toons on run 1, and two toons on run 2, for a full group of five toons boosted.

Or if you're only boosting four toons, two at a time is definitely possible but boring as hell.
That is akin to 4+booster.
I did 12 hours, 60th to 70th; full rested at 60th lasted half an hour.
Not looting the first 5 hours would speed things up, but two runs will slow things down.

[crowdx]

I was considering this to see how it would work from 66 - 70. I have a druid bear and two shammies which I would group and then possibly have a mage, either a 70 or an 80 AoE the mobs once the bear has swiped them?
Would this hit my XP a lot if the mage is not in the group?

[Ualaa]

If the toon is.... I believe 8 or 9 levels beyond your level... any portion of damage they deal is deducted from the experience you get.

So if you have 66's, and an 80 mage...
If the 66's get the mob from 100% to 90% health.
And then the mage finishes the mob quickly.
The 66's will only get 10% of the experience.

On the other hand, if the 90% damage was dealt entirely by the mage pet.
And no damage from the mage themself (damage shield counts as a pet for this).
Then you'd receive 100% of the experience, assuming your lowbies had the mobs tagged.

If you don't have the option of Magma Totems or high pet damage, then sticking the booster in the party is much faster then having them out.
Once your toons got to 72 or 73, and 80 can finish things and not take any experience.

[crowdx]

So on this basis my level 70 mageoutside of the group could AoE the mob and the group would get full exp even though the mage would do most of the damage?

[Shodokan]

So on this basis my level 70 mageoutside of the group could AoE the mob and the group would get full exp even though the mage would do most of the damage?

It's called mob tagging. IIRC it doesn't work anymore. Also Athene was banned for mob tagging... though it was in instances.

[Oswyn]

Just ran some level 60 alts through ramps. I want to say I did it three times and got a level and a half. All of it was rested.

Edit: Should add that I boosted the 3 toons through with an 80 pally and shammy for super quick runs.

[Shodokan]

Just ran some level 60 alts through ramps. I want to say I did it three times and got a level and a half. All of it was rested.

Edit: Should add that I boosted the 3 toons through with an 80 pally and shammy for super quick runs.

2 80s? that should KILL the exp they get >_>

[Ualaa]

Three runs, 1.50 levels.

So with rested, you're looking at 0.50 a level per run.
And without rested, 0.25 a level per run.

Then it just comes down to how quickly you can do your four (non-rested) runs per level.
If the pally is prot, they could solo it, even in quest to 80th type gear.

[MiRai]

To be honest I would just use Ramparts, unless Zal reveals his 2 pull strategy in Underbog [which I'd like to know as well since Ramparts is boring me to death]. Eventually it starts taking 5 runs [or more] for a level with rested...believe me I'm in the middle of boosting 4 man teams in there with my single 80. I've never taken a team to 65 in there before, but I boosted my DKs up to 64 in there. I am boosting just as many teams as you are and I just kill the rested on one team and move on. By the time I'm done with the last team I'm so bored I can't do Ramparts for at least a week and they get some rested XP back in that time.

And you are correct, mob tagging inside of an instance is a ban-able offense. And it doesn't work outside of an instance like it used to when BC launched. XP gained is based on how much that person does to the mob.

[Shodokan]

Just for a little update. I was able to solo setthek halls in about 18 minuets ( including looting). So unless i get a crapton extra exp from the mobs being 8-9 levels higher, then i don't know if it is > ramparts. As ramparts gets me about 8% exp (@ 62) per run, and i know for sure that is 5 runs in 1 hour.

So the 3 runs from setthek halls would have to be worth > 40% of a level to make it worth it. I'll let you guys know later tonight what happens. I have a 4 day weekend, class for 1 day, and then no class for another 4 days. I love next week. So i should be able to get the gold necessary for herbs + levels from doing this leveling of teams to 65.

[Oswyn]

2 80s? that should KILL the exp they get >_>

XP per kill was in the high 700's. My pally takes forever to kill the mobs so I threw in the shammy for dps (magma totem is helpful). I timed the runs vs the xp received and found that it was more efficient to use two 80's.

[Kang]

I forget in which thread the strategy was mentioned, but you can grind the bottom floor of Underbog (up to the first boss). Reset and repeat. You'll probably gain a lot of xp from 60-65 and it might be faster than boosting through ramps. I boosted my team from 65-68 using that technique. I got about a level every 40-50 mins. You may hit the 5 instance per hour cap doing it, but it worked pretty well for me.

[Shodokan]

I forget in which thread the strategy was mentioned, but you can grind the bottom floor of Underbog (up to the first boss). Reset and repeat. You'll probably gain a lot of xp from 60-65 and it might be faster than boosting through ramps. I boosted my team from 65-68 using that technique. I got about a level every 40-50 mins. You may hit the 5 instance per hour cap doing it, but it worked pretty well for me.

lower floor up to first boss?

i'll try it after i try the sethekk halls method

edit: SH gave me 10% in 15 mins... which is < ramparts in the same amount of time. So i'm going to try out the bottom area of underbog.

edit2: ran underbog 2 times in 10 mins, got 10% of a level. (the bottom part, basically a 1 pull) but that will be a lockout too fast.

Guess it's ramps + looting for 8-10% in 10 mins. 300g per hour while doing this isnt bad i guess.


At this point i'm wondering if it will truely be worth the time put into doing this. I mean i'm looking at... a week of like 8 hours a day of ramps... to get all my teams ready for professions, then using the gold made from that to power level all the alchemy... like... 50 hours of leveling or so. 50 hours of ramps is going to make me want to kill myself. Even @ 300g per hour, thats 3000g per team... 5 teams... 15k gold ish + tons of cloth for the tailoring.

I mean once all my characters are done... it will take me atleast 1 week of gems to make all the money spent back. So i guess after that it becomes very worth it.

[MiRai]

50 hours of ramps is going to make me want to kill myself.
I was in the same boat as you with Ramparts boosting. I couldn't do it and I had to take a break, it's just too much Ramparts for one person to handle. If you do happen to accomplish 50 hours in one week you're going to need a break from WoW.

[Shodokan]

I was in the same boat as you with Ramparts boosting. I couldn't do it and I had to take a break, it's just too much Ramparts for one person to handle. If you do happen to accomplish 50 hours in one week you're going to need a break from WoW.


That all depends. I once clocked 110 hours in a week on my mage >_>

Edit: 1 group done. TY to finding someone who likes the prospect of 5% of my net income per week for 3 weeks when all my alchemy is done on all the toons. Should have another 2 groups done tomorrow.

[Starbuck_Jones]

Unless I missed something about not questing, you should quest 60-65 in outlands in like 5 hours tops. flying at 60 makes this hands down the fastest way. Otherwise, grind underbog to the second boss.

[Shodokan]

Unless I missed something about not questing, you should quest 60-65 in outlands in like 5 hours tops. flying at 60 makes this hands down the fastest way. Otherwise, grind underbog to the second boss.

Well, the thing about questing is... it's not that fast as a boxer. ESPECIALLY in zangar/hellfire.

[Starbuck_Jones]

http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=26508

MB friendly quest lists from Hellfire to Blades Edge Mtns.

[Shodokan]

http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=26508

MB friendly quest lists from Hellfire to Blades Edge Mtns.


I'm horde :(

[Ualaa]

You mentioned, unless there's a crapton of extra experience for mobs 8 levels higher...

Have to mention the experience cap.
Anything beyond 4 or 5 levels (over you), rewards the same experience as whatever the cap level mob is.

So when you are level 20, a 24th (or maybe the cap is 26th.. not sure exactly) level mob might get you 224 experience (picking a number here, not sure the actual amount). However, if you were to kill a level 44 mob, it won't get you any more experience then the 24th (or 26th) level mob.

[Shodokan]

You mentioned, unless there's a crapton of extra experience for mobs 8 levels higher...

Have to mention the experience cap.
Anything beyond 4 or 5 levels (over you), rewards the same experience as whatever the cap level mob is.

So when you are level 20, a 24th (or maybe the cap is 26th.. not sure exactly) level mob might get you 224 experience (picking a number here, not sure the actual amount). However, if you were to kill a level 44 mob, it won't get you any more experience then the 24th (or 26th) level mob.

helpful info.