View Full Version : [ISBoxer] How to - Manage lots of toons in Profile?
Altsoba
01-14-2010, 04:36 AM
Hello,
The title is as good as I was able to formulate it, sorry for it.
So, here's the thing, I have 5 accounts (wow...) and within those accounts I have lots of 80s. Besides those lots I have some more needing boosts from the other 80s.
What is the best way of creating a profile with ALL toons I have and only load those you want (besides creating a profile for every combination of course :))?
I mean, for example today I want my tank and 4 lowbies to run cathedral but later on I want the tank a lvl 80 dpser and 3 lvl 65s to boost in UK. Or maybe after one of them uses up all rest xp bar I grab and replace it by my other long forgotten lvl 70 warrior.
I think I'm not even managing profiles well... When I run the wizard and create a new group, I save it as something (like shaman_pvp for example) and when i want them I open that file. The bad part is that I have to run through the same tweaking over and over again for each of my groups with a common branch but also many specificities.
How do you handle this? Are there any solutions?
Thank you
Naysayer
01-14-2010, 05:59 AM
I don't think it's possible to do what you're asking, but that'd be awesome if it were. would be a good idea to suggest that to Lax and maybe he can work a miracle.
ps- isboxer is fucking awesome enough already though, so let's not act spoiled.
Altsoba
01-14-2010, 06:57 AM
I don't think it's possible to do what you're asking, but that'd be awesome if it were. would be a good idea to suggest that to Lax and maybe he can work a miracle.
ps- isboxer is fucking awesome enough already though, so let's not act spoiled.
Well, people here come out often with lots of creative ways of doing things that don't look at first sight possible so that's why I decided to ask for it. Sometimes even attemps to do it bring alive a discussion and together work out something. But well, I don't need excuses for asking this :).
Also don't think it's acting spoiled as it's a program you pay for (one worthing every cent of it though :)) so you can at least drop the idea in the box for the future.
Thinking of it, It's pretty much what Jamba does by letting you add/remove members for the current group from a list of "unlimited"(?) amount of toons.
Ualaa
01-14-2010, 08:11 AM
So far, I've created a profile for each set of toons which I want to run together.
I don't mix and match toons to often.
Most of my set up, is default wow spells or abilities on whatever action bar.
And then IS Boxer doing steps or such, to create round-robins or whatever.
So the wow macro end of things, each toon runs fine if they were one-boxed for some reason.
If I were to create a new profile, which ran 3 toons from one team, with 2 toons from another team.
For the most part similar abilities are on similar hotkeys.
Buffs are always Shift F6 and Shift F7 for group stuff, or Shift D in a castsequence for self buffs and Shift J for targetable buffs (usually single version of Shift F6).
Not sure if this is helping you or not.
But I could grab a toon from another team, and have similar abilities in similar hotkeys.
A lot of my mapped keys are to this effect:
- hotkey is Shift A.
- sends Shift A to all windows.
Or:
- hotkey is Shift F
- sends Shift F to slot 1 on press 1, to slot 2 on press 2 etc.
HPAVC
01-14-2010, 09:41 AM
I think jamba-macro with class tagging would help. Pushing similar bindings on the tagged macros. So each tag having a DPS macro appropriate to them with a similar keybinding. That way no matter what your groups the 'DPS' macro for each 'tag' works as intended for whatever your group composition is. This is how I split up ten-boxing and do mixed groups all the time.
I use exactly one ISBoxer profile, and I have dozens of toons in it over 10+ teams. For my teams that need different key maps, I do just that -- give them their own key maps. It was designed from the get-go for you to only need a single profile.
If you find yourself needing to tweak the Key Maps from the Quick Setup Wizard different for each team, you can rename the existing Key Maps and everything that was already using them should continue to use them. Then if you run the wizard again, it will create brand new ones for the new Character Set that you can repeat the process with.
All of that said, if you can explain the trouble you're having keeping them in one profile, maybe there is something else I can suggest?
Ualaa
01-14-2010, 05:40 PM
By "profile" in my above post, I meant character set.
So I can launch any of my teams, as a group.
I've got several mapped keys, which react differently per character set.
Basically things like:
BACKSPACE --> Sends Backspace to --> All of Red/Black teams.
BACKSPACE --> 5 Steps, sending BACKSPACE in sequence to --> (Blue/Green) Slot 1, Slot 2, Slot 3, Slot 4, Slot 5.
They're all using the default wow profile, if that's what you mean by profile.
If your using multiple computers, then you have to create multiple profiles if you want the follows / invites / assists to work from my experience.
burningforce
01-15-2010, 12:22 AM
I found the easy way for me was to have seprate profiles and just load whichever I want when i want to play it. After making my 3rd team I was forgetting which keymaps were which and forgot my keys to turn of keymaps.
For me the organization was easier and i could reuse certain keys if I wanted to. This outweighed the cons imo
Altsoba
01-15-2010, 03:03 AM
I found the easy way for me was to have seprate profiles and just load whichever I want when i want to play it. After making my 3rd team I was forgetting which keymaps were which and forgot my keys to turn of keymaps.
For me the organization was easier and i could reuse certain keys if I wanted to. This outweighed the cons imo
Thank you all for your replies.
I go this way too but that's where I lack versatility. And by profile I mean character set yes.
Lax: It's not the problem of different setups but more being able to create team comps on the fly.
Have a good day
Coltimar
01-15-2010, 11:24 AM
Altsoba, you and I are in the same boat. I have a few hotkeys I use for every character set that I have to make each time. I have over 20 character sets, after a bit of house keeping. I have toons in the 20,60,70 that I like to mix up. I don't know the best solution. One tip that I found useful is to name the character set with the actual toon names (Mychul,Marlun,Teetoe,Jackea,Jermayne) so I know exactly what is in each set.
If you want to switch characters out on the fly without having 5 to the power of 5 Character Sets, design your Character Set and its Key Maps (etc) so that you can just switch out a Character in any given Slot.
On my old Pal + 4 DK team, I would swap out any of the 3 DPS DKs for a shaman, rogue, druid, etc. All I had to do was modify the Character Set real quick, because I designed my setup so that this would work. If I had more characters on my current server I could do the same thing with my 5 Paladins. (Maybe if I level up my DKs for PVP I can now do the infamous DK + 4 Pal)
This is achieved by removing any assumptions about what character is in each Slot. I make heavy use of Action Target Groups to make sure that if it's something that only ret paladins should do, only they do it. Or if it's only for rogues, only they do it, and so on. So if you have 5 shamans, instead of just putting "all" or "all other" and assuming that they're all shamans, you would specifically put "all shamans" or "other shamans" instead. Then if you put in a druid or mage with your 5 shamans for example, you can specify something for them to do instead of the same thing the shamans do.
This saves me the trouble of micromanaging dozens of character sets that each have one character changed in it, and maximizes my reuse of existing configuration.
Ualaa
01-15-2010, 05:12 PM
I like that idea.
The distinction between "all shamans" and "other shamans" would be...
If you are a shaman, "other shamans" is everyone but you.
If you are not a shaman, "other shamans" is all shamans.
And "all shamans" is then every shaman, even yourself in the event that you are a shammy.
So far I've gone with fixed teams.
Four teams, and the same toons on each team always.
This would really make them interchangeable.
I'm contemplating trading a warlock (Red Set) for a shammy (Blue Set), and the mapped keys will need adjustments.
Setting up by action target groups, would make this a lot easier.
At the moment I've got things like GroundTarget, Melee, Shaman, Warlock; could easily expand it to make every set interchangeable.
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