Mage spec

[gitcho]

Hey guys - currently running an all arcane build for my mage (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Bonechewer&n=Team%C3%A5wesome)(think my talents may be out of whack) and am hitting 5.5k with hero, and about 3.5k dps without. I'm using the standard ABx4,AM rotation.

With the changes to water elemental, is anyone having success with frost for PVE? Is Arcane still the way to go?

[outdrsyguy1]

i'm currently using frost and water elemental. the pets worth about 600 to 700 dps and tends to live through most boss fights and is able to dps while we run around like chickens with our heads cut off. i'm going to try arcane though because i just think i might get a boost there. i'll let you know. Typically my mage is about 300 to 500 dps less than my shaman but with the pet it's break even or even a little more.

[genocyde]

I run a similar arcane spec on my 3 mages and in heroics i only have one suggestion. Dump the arcane missiles... I can burn a boss down with just arcane blast and not run out of mana and my 3 mages are typically around the 6-8k dps range in half pvp gear half heroic gear self buffed no heroism etc.

If i have any suggestions its dump the extra points in frost tree (go 11 points just for icy veins) and put them in arcane mind and student of the mind. maybe even dump the point in counterspell for student of the mind as well. Unless of course your not running molten armor then get rid of student of the mind all together and put them somewhere else. Also get as much haste as you can it's probably the biggest arcane stat.

[HPAVC]

I would be using something more akin to this: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#of0Vcu0IzxGuMtedcZbGc0o like the previous poster wrote. I don't understand the glyph selection at all, I would be here http://www.wowpopular.com/Arcane/Glyphs/Mage

I would like to aee a 7k dps average ilevel ~219 rotation for arcane and spec that removes arcane missiles.

[Crel]

Thnx for the arcane tips all.
Have been using frost spec simply because the mages never even reach the arcane missiles before the mobs die, but will give acrane another shot. I just hate to see AM get one tick off then wasted :P

[outdrsyguy1]

Okay, i switched to arcane from frost on my caster dps team (shammy, pally, boomkin, mage) and OMG the damage output is so much higher. Frostspec lusted with all buffs was about 3500-4000 dps plus pet of 700 dps. Arcane, all buffs for the period of one lust, anywhere from 7500 dps min to 10,000 max that I saw. the mana efficiency is terrible but a full mana bar can easily pump out 350k damage very quickly, you could pot or evocate after that if you were in a raid or something but dam, i was impressed.
I used click macro for arcane blast and also arcane missiles. I found i had to add [nochanneling] to the spell after arcane missiles or it would clip the last missile even though i had [nochanneling] on arcane missile spell. Dps testing was on the heroic training dummy in org.
Buffed with standar d buffs and totems my mage is at about 2750 spell damage

[gitcho]

Okay, i switched to arcane from frost on my caster dps team (shammy, pally, boomkin, mage) and OMG the damage output is so much higher. Frostspec lusted with all buffs was about 3500-4000 dps plus pet of 700 dps. Arcane, all buffs for the period of one lust, anywhere from 7500 dps min to 10,000 max that I saw. the mana efficiency is terrible but a full mana bar can easily pump out 350k damage very quickly, you could pot or evocate after that if you were in a raid or something but dam, i was impressed.
I used click macro for arcane blast and also arcane missiles. I found i had to add [nochanneling] to the spell after arcane missiles or it would clip the last missile even though i had [nochanneling] on arcane missile spell. Dps testing was on the heroic training dummy in org.
Buffed with standar d buffs and totems my mage is at about 2750 spell damagewhoa - 7500? that's huge ... can u link ur mage?

thx for the arcane tips ... think i'll stick with it for now ...

[outdrsyguy1]

remember that's on the heroic dummy not moving and pumping out dps over 20+ seconds. Here's my mage. It was a significant boost for me (over frost and/or fire) so i'm gonna stay arcane for a while.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Shadowmoon&n=Zommbee