Gold and Professions.

[pearldrake999]

Would it be worth leveling up Tailoring, Jewelcrafting and Mining 5 times on 2 set of chars?

The benefits over 4 days would be

20 dragon;s eye
20 titansteel CD
20 Icy Prisms CD
5 Ebonweave
Moonshroud
Spellweave (plus 5 more free spellweave due to specialization)

I;m just wondering if you think it would be worth it in the long run training up all these proffesions, if I bought straight off the AH to craft.

[Aenar]

I'm pretty sure you can only have two out of those three professions on any one character.

[HPAVC]

I'm pretty sure you can only have two out of those three professions on any one character.

I think he meant tailoring/mining x5, jc/mining x5

i think people would advise for that level of tradecraft thinking about alchemy instead of tailoring.

[Sam DeathWalker]

Well I got a tailor / letherworker to high level and now plan on getting:

2 x Alchmey
2 x mining
2 x tailor

I know those 3 are good, not sure about jc. I have like 100 eternal waters I bought on the cheap and when I get alchmey high enough I should make a nice profit.

[Niley]

20 Icy Prisms CD
5 Ebonweave
Moonshroud
Spellweave.


These arent worth it, i have 5 tailors, 10 alchs, 5 jcs and every other profession.
Alchemy is the most profitable, as long as you steer away from making cardinal rubies, than you should have some jcs to cut the gems and sell them, easy money.

[Gadzooks]

Ebonweave, spellweave and moonshroud are good sellers now due to patterns like Merlin's robe - but there's no guarantee that market will hold up over time, and honestly, the 4 day cooldown is ridiculous, not to mention the cost of the cloth itself. If you want to make a lot of money, there are better ways than tailoring cooldowns.

Icy Prisms are a waste of frozen orbs, IMHO. I think I made one.

JC is nice because it has a daily thats easy to do, and lets you buy the higher quality cuts and jewelry.

Alch is a money maker now, without needing stacks of Frozen Lotus. I epic gem a day, plus unlimited titanium transmutes, and flasks.

Mining is going to be tough on 5, ore nodes are in high demand, and it's hard enough on one. I would'nt want to level 5 miners, and you can't buy your way to 450.

[Nolife]

Mining is going to be tough on 5, ore nodes are in high demand, and it's hard enough on one. I would'nt want to level 5 miners, and you can't buy your way to 450.
Isn't it possible to get a skill point for every toon from a single node providing you only loot with the last one? It wouldn't be too difficult to skill up mining. But then again, you only get small stamina boost + titansteel cd from mining. There are better professions to choose from.

[Shodokan]

The time/money put into getting jewelcrafting up is NOT worth it.

The most money made for idle play is tailoring/alchemy. If you COULD somehow get enough mats for all the jewelcrafting stuff it would out-weigh tailoring eventually.

[crowdx]

My easiest money maker is Mine Saronite, Prospect it, take the blues and transmure into epic uncut gems and then sell. The mining step can be skipped if you just want to buy ore, but for me I had a stack of forest emeralds etc which I have been transmuting since 3.2 came out, makes me 150 + g every day for 2 minutes work.
Tailoring might be worth it to make the most inexpensive blue item you can make and then use an enchanter to DE into a shard. Bags are the only thing I normally can sell easily and the prices of bags have dropped a lot. The only thing about tailoring is that a lot of frostweave drops in dugeons and so it is a very passive money maker.

[wyofiddler]

My DK (main solo char) has mining for his main prof. Mining on every member of the team doesn't make sense to me. It is very time-intensive to level, and for actually gathering you can only loot the node on one char. Aren't they putting in a no-CD Saronite-to-titansteel transmute? It sees this would eliminate the need for 5 miners and the 5x 20-hr Titansteel CDs.

Niley has a great post somewhere in here about making the most money from Alch and JC cooldowns, which seems like a good strategy.

.....But this is from someone still running dailies for money, so as always, do what you think makes the most sense :)

[Ualaa]

I believe when you mine now, you get the entire stack in one go.
A very nice time saver, when you're mining.
But impossible to share nodes now.

[crowdx]

If you do not have autoloot turned on I believe you can mine it with each of your toons but not loot it :)

[Velassra]

I'm trying to level up multiple alchemists because the transmute gems seems to sell very well. I'm really to cheap to buy Frost Lotus off the AH for 50g+ each so I'm trying to farm them since I need a crap load. But damn, they nerf the drop rate, lol?

[lans83]

Unless they changed it in 3.3, you should still be able to share mining nodes amongst players to gain 1 point each. Just make sure you don't have auto-loot enabled on the toons you don't want to gather the mats from. I did this on my lock team cause I wanted to take advantage of the multiple CDs also. I had mining on my main already, but his skill was higher than one of my slaves I was working on while questing. I noticed he gained one point, then she would also off the same node as long as he didn't collect anything. Last time I played them was about 2 or 3 months ago, so I'm not sure if they changed this or not.

[Ualaa]

Auto Loot might have been the culprit.
I was using auto loot on, by default.
With Alt held, to suppress the auto loot.

Maybe auto loot off, by default when mining.
And a modifier key to enable it, would work.

[heyaz]

wonder how long it would take to become profitable with that... seems like about 30 days
after the initial investment of leveling them

[HPAVC]

The autoloot is the issue for hitting multiple nodes, beyond the actual setup for the hitting. If someone has the macro for toggling the autoloot variable that would be great to post. I thought I had a toggle for it at one point in my notes, I guess I don't.

[jimbobobb]

Mining is definitely not worth it on 5 characters, as alchemy and jc are better/simpler money makers
(disclaimer: your server's crazy economy may negate what I am about to state, do some math based on your server's numbers)

JEWELCRAFTING
Icy prism (worth it because 15%of the time you get a dragons eye and 5% of the time a rare gem and also nets you blue gems for your transmutes - I get my stuff for icy prisms from mass prospecting ore, it may or may not be feasible based on your server's economy)
Doing the daily each day (takes 10 minutes on 5 characters) nets you a dragon's eye which on my server is 100g plus 13g for the quest itself

JC is approximately plus 500g per day then on 5 toons

ALCHEMY
Make an epic gem each day (be transmute specced) - proc rate of 20% (this is a lowball, as that 20% has another 20% chance at a double proc, then that has a 20% chance of a 3rd proc, etc etc) I actually like making cardinal rubies as they sell for 200g each cut into bold and runed on my server (which is actually Niley's server so I don't know why you don't like the reds bro)

So you get 6 epic gems per day from five alchemists at no cost if you made your icy prism Lowball = 150g each gem (CUT THEM)

So 900g from Alchemy

MINING
Make a titansteel bar each day. On my server this is....
eternal fire = 25g
earth = 8g
shadow = 5g
titanium bars = 70g
So 108g for a bar that sells for 175g on my server

Net profit = 67g X 5 = 335g (this may vary on your server, and it might be that titanium bars and their components are great money makers but I doubt it - if you farm the components yourself this obviously changes things, but then you are spending a lot of your time doing that, and it is no longer an 'easy' money making profession)




Honestly, alchemy and JC are the way to go. Simple, easy, hit combine buttons and do a daily, and rake in well over 1k a day on 5 characters for 15 mins of work.

[F9thRet]

The time/money put into getting jewelcrafting up is NOT worth it.

The most money made for idle play is tailoring/alchemy. If you COULD somehow get enough mats for all the jewelcrafting stuff it would out-weigh tailoring eventually.

I think we mostly agree here. The thing with JC, that I find, is when Used with BS, you can get some great bonuses. I have done so with 4 of my 5 shaman, and it was more then easy to crack 2k dps just hitting lvl 80. I Imagine the same could be said for about any other class. 2 extra Gem slots, plus the 3 JC only Gems = win.

Now like you said, the time/cost to do it may not be worth it to everyone, But for me, I have seen a great potential then just the making money part.

Stephen