Wotlk - ICC - Pit of Saron (PoS) - Scourgelord Tyrannus

[TheShox]

I've searched for any tips on Tyrannus after the fix and have not found any for boxers. I run a DK, 3x Elemental, 1x Resto shaman team. This is for Heroic of course.

I set my team up in a line in front of him. spread about 10-12 yards apart. Sub 30% is when it starts getting tough. Also, I had my healer drop super fast and realized it was several of the NPCs that spawn after the fight starts. This can probably be fixed by moving the team around the back and fighting him.

When DPS gets the Brand, I just continue to DPS because I have not found a way to just stop dps on one toon. When the healer gets it, I try my best to not heal. The beginning is smooth because the DK has all of his CDs available to him. On the last attempt last night (everyone was broken, trash had respawned, etc), I removed Lava Burst from the rotation so large crits won't gib the tank if they have Brand. Seemed to work, but still felt hectic.

If someone is Marked by the dragon, I'll do a chain heal after the spike hits. When he does his Forceful Smash, is there any way to avoid it or do you have to take the hit and knockback?

Based on my gear should I wait for upgrades before attempting?

[offive]

I think Niley first suggested starting by the exit door to avoid the inbound cave trash. The new feature of health reset changes the game with this guy. I have yet to clear H:Garfrost on live yet, I am building a frost set for my shamans just for the frost dmg.

[Toned]

I think Niley first suggested starting by the exit door to avoid the inbound cave trash. The new feature of health reset changes the game with this guy. I have yet to clear H:Garfrost on live yet, I am building a frost set for my shamans just for the frost dmg.

Make sure your tank faces him away from your shamans and he is pretty easy. Clump your shamans up and when he starts to cast Saronite Throw just have your shamans strafe before it lands. The thing that is probably jacking you up is the frontal AOE that hits for 18k+ frost dmg.

I've been able to clear all of the new 5mans. have to finish up halls of repair bill wiped on the very last wave on wotlk. Then went to bed :P it's not hard though just have to be good at idependatly moving your shamans + your tank. I switched to 3 dps + dedicated healer again for these new 5mans. The old 4 ele + tank seems to be pretty rough with the ammount of damage and movement that you have to do.

[Iceorbz]

Eh, your stuff is wrong for this boss.

And you defeated scoureglord after the fix? Or before the fix?

Got him to 32%, going to try just pure LB spam next time instead of Lava bursts. I gotta really pump the dps so we will see how it works. My tank only has 33k hp's in the instance so it's doable for sure.

[TheShox]

Toned - Like Ice mentioned, have you done this after the fix where you can't really nuke him from the air?

The grouping up is a bad idea because the frost from the Wyrm hits the group and everyone will take damage. Spreading out will make it so only 1 shaman gets hit.

My tank usually faces to the left/right so when I'm knocked back, I won't be out of range of the totems, heals and the frost patches. Using Frost resist so the shamans won't die may help.

[Raskaz]

What I find particulary hard are those icy patches since they're really healing intensive and getting out of them takes forever.

I tanked him near the exist with my toons spread out a bit but ran out of mana on my healer on around 40% and I can't even remember when that happened the last time.

[Rms]

For this fight I originally had issues healing him too much when attempting to heal with 4x elemental shaman as one always had the mark. However, as I got better at it I have found that I can do it with 4x elemental. (Actually found this out by accident when I forgot to switch spec)

Like others said, I found it best to stand near the exit. Pulling healing aggro on the undead when you are at a low percentage is quite annoying.

I stack up my 4 shaman as it is simpler to keep track of them. Originally I tried to spread them out but there was too much to watch for me. After positioning my tank to get knocked back near an ice patch when he powers up, my attention is mostly on tank HP and the shaman's position. I watch for the blue rune underneath their feet and move them away. A couple times, they didnt even need to be moved as frost was never thrown down there. This does mean that they all get frozen at the same time when he calls a target, but the damage from this is healed by healing stream np.

All in all, this fight has gotten a lot easier with practice.

This is post fix and on heroic. He starts at 100% hp on the ground. Frost aura or frost resist totem are helpful.

[Iceorbz]

RMS can you post a video of you knocking this one out?

would help alot of people lol.

[Prega]

after many wipes in last days (10 or so), stopped always by stupid cavern closed bug, today finally done with my pala team. in heroic ofc. and at first attempt. tanked him in middle and burnt avenging wrath at start, avoiding to stop dps during debuff, and moving really little, just when he kick me away or when he freeze ground and get his buff up.
when he called his melee range instant ability (he says somenthing before it, read on wiki) i used divine shields on all, healed a bit and finished him. he dropped new 2h axe :D.

[Rms]

RMS can you post a video of you knocking this one out?

would help alot of people lol.

I will need to setup some recording software but sure. I have already done it for today so I will try to record tomorrow.

[Zal]

you pretty much need a dedicated healer for this fight. And if you do that move your healer to a different location than your DPS.

[Reglar]

Ok so I downed this guy using my Prot pally team, 3 ele shammies and a moonkin. I did not have a dedicated healer, nor did I spread the team out.

What I did do is put them in the Frost Resist gear I used for Garfrost. Now I don't know if that was the winning factor, or if I was lucky, but I did manage to down him.

I would keyboard turn them as needed to dps the boss as I kited him over ice.

I'll see how repeatable this is in that config this week, I am just throwing out what I did in case it helps others.

[Raskaz]

How much frost res do you have including your gear+aura if I may ask and how much spell power you're losing on your dps for that?

I am not to keen crafting a frost set for all my toons but I am not too keen on further wipes either ;)

[Multibocks]

I move my guys to just in front of the cave and have killed this guy both times without fail. Seems I found a spot that ice doesnt fall on or Im really really lucky.

[Reglar]

With all 3 pieces on and aura I have 413 Frost Resistance.

Now I did this guy again today without the frost gear, and got him first try, so I don't think the gear makes a difference now.

Basically I clumped my guys together, and would have them follow me if they were about to be dumped on.

All told though a pretty hectic fight.

[jimbobobb]

I run

Prot pally
resto druid
2 X arcane mage
Ele shammy

I put all my guys in a box formation in the exit cave. I put my paladin with his back to the corner, so the knockback doesn't do anything. I DO NOT MOVE AT ALL ON ANY TOONS. I wear my frost resist gear, and simply smash my big button. I basically main play my healer, and heal people through targeting, frosts, etc. I stop healing when my healer gets the brand. If someone else gets the brand, I simply turn them around so they can't cast. It can be some crazy healing, but this seems to work best for me, and I only wiped the very first day when I was figuring out the fight.

[Alemi]

you pretty much need a dedicated healer for this fight. And if you do that move your healer to a different location than your DPS.

To echo what was said above, you really don't. I've run this every day since 3.3 launched and have never used my shaman resto. I just use a frost resist totem and use the nuke/heal/nuke/chain heal group strategy and it's working for me. I'll strafe the group of of patches is the damage gets severe but I don't worry about Overlord's Brand or stopping dps/healing.

[gitcho]

With all 3 pieces on and aura I have 413 Frost Resistance.do you mind linking those pieces? didn't see them on your armory -thx

[Iceorbz]

Just got this guy down, fuck hes hard lol.

Put my guys @ the door in the middle just past the threshold. They took less icepatches then normal, not sure if it was RNG but it was in my favor. Straight focused dps and heals through the most part, running like a bitch during the whole fight kiting to minimize my heals.

Use taunt and boost the threat and keep kiting him to do less healing to your tank, seemed good lol. I wore frost resist gear,and it helped.

Bad parts, wearing frost resist some of my crappy shaman got even crappier, with mostly 232 ect gear this guy should be no problem. My geared shaman was raping.

[Reglar]

do you mind linking those pieces? didn't see them on your armory -thx

Pally:
Icebane Chestguard
Icebane Girdle
Icebane Treads

Shammies:
Icy Scale Chestguard
Icy Scale Belt
Icy Scale Boots

Druid:
Polar Vest
Polar Cord
Polar Boots

[Kalros]

Just dropped him again last night. Fairly easy fight for me. The worst part is getting through all the trash leading up to the cave on the hill.

I run Prot Pally and 4x Elemental Shamen.

I keep up Frost Aura and keep the shamen all within a couple feet of each other. As soon as he engages, I pop Heroism (Bloodlust for you Horde), 3x Fire Elemental, 1x Earth Elemental and burn all cooldowns in the beginning. I'll have to do my Chain heals a couple times during the fight and heal the tank once or twice during the fight.

[Niley]

Just dropped him again last night. Fairly easy fight for me. The worst part is getting through all the trash leading up to the cave on the hill.

I run Prot Pally and 4x Elemental Shamen.

I keep up Frost Aura and keep the shamen all within a couple feet of each other. As soon as he engages, I pop Heroism (Bloodlust for you Horde), 3x Fire Elemental, 1x Earth Elemental and burn all cooldowns in the beginning. I'll have to do my Chain heals a couple times during the fight and heal the tank once or twice during the fight.
yeah, same here, Im not actually trying to do PoS since i dont need anything from there, but i got FoS as a daily yesterday....and PoS today, waiting to get HoR daily tommorow
Anyway, basically just burn, heal once, and finish it off
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/2113/wowscrnshot121809233332.jpg

wdit. I iz overgeared, i know!

[Gares]

Anyone have any suggestion to the trash before the cave? The 3 casters along with the other 2? Its like a hard pull to begin with and I wipe so many times on this trash? I even tried to LOS in order to get them close but the casters do so much damage

[Reglar]

What I find works for me is I park my team back a bit, so that the mobs have to move up to my tank to be in range to attack the party, that way I can grab them as they step up. If I start with the party in range of the mobs its a nightmare, its hard to keep them all on my tank, but this approach I have better luck with.

I do agree that the first 2 packs are a real pain.

[Khatovar]

I get as close to them as I can. Target the farthest Flamebearer and tag him with Avenger's Shield as I run up to the other Flamebearer. All of them should then be in range for the consecrate. From here it's mostly a matter of shutting the damned fools up. HoJ, Mana Tap, Wind Shear, Holy Wrath {only the Deathbringer is Humanoid, the rest of the pack is Undead} and focus fire the Flamebearers, then the Deathbringer. The Flamebearers need to go before they start jumping all over the place to hellfire.

[Danos]

I suffer with these a lot too but run three shaman so I just drop 3 grounding totems and this seems to absorb enough damage at the start to get one of the flamebearers down. It's always messy though.

[remanz]

Can someone post the position for this boss ? I stay near the entrance for the cave that I come out of. I got adds sending 8k shadow bolts to me. Then I move to another cave (not really a cave, more like a entrance to a big hall) on the right. I get hit by the Icy touch and whatever frost damage coming from the dragon on my slaves like crazy.


and Isboxer's auto follow after Pip switch is really not helping. I have no way to disable it :( I click a slave window. Everybody starts to follow.

[Gares]

I pretty much stand right by the enterance to HOR and go from there. I personally just stand right out in the open with Frost Aura from my pally up and just Bloodlust and DPS the piss outta him. I continue DPS even while Overlord's Brand is on and through all the frost damage from the dragon and whatever his huge spike damage move is. Just make sure your tank never goes below 75% health and you should be ok with just spamming AOE healing with whoever your healer is. I one shot this guy every time now if I manage to not wipe like mad on the trash before the cave.

[suprafro]

This guy is pretty tough for a ret team in heroic mode, I have to kite him in circles the entire fight to avoid the freeze... and I had to setup a macro to rotate hands of freedom on the DK tank so that i would always have one available when he does the power overwhelming buff. Whenever he gets the buff I would stop my team and kite him through the frost puddles on the tank, the puddle both snares and damages you so make sure you don't drag your rets through them with you

I just tried to bruteforce him down the first few times without any movement and got fairly close a few times but died during the freeze breath thing. I think if you were geared and speced for PVE it could work though. My team only has PVP gear with a few random PVE pieces on the tank, tank also has nothing remotly close to a tank spec so he dies pretty easily ;)

[offive]

I get as close to them as I can. Target the farthest Flamebearer and tag him with Avenger's Shield as I run up to the other Flamebearer. All of them should then be in range for the consecrate. From here it's mostly a matter of shutting the damned fools up. HoJ, Mana Tap, Wind Shear, Holy Wrath {only the Deathbringer is Humanoid, the rest of the pack is Undead} and focus fire the Flamebearers, then the Deathbringer. The Flamebearers need to go before they start jumping all over the place to hellfire.

I have these packs pretty much down now, unless something goes FUBAR. I set up for Cleansing, Fire Resist totems, two groundings, and Shadow Aura. On the run in to the middle of the pack, I single target taunt the first melee on the right which pulls the group, I retarget the leftmost flamebearer and throw my shield which hits it, the back left melee who is now within range and the center humanoid caster (which shuts them down for the silence affect). I start my caster dps on burning the left flamebearer, run the tank to the right flamebearer and stun it the two melee with holy wrath. Burn the right flamebearer, move the tank to the center caster and burn her down. By this point the melee are either dead or nearly dead. This pull gave me fits the first time I saw it on the PTR, so I thought about it a bit before it went live. Once you get the hang of the inital pull its fairly easy to handle them.

[outdrsyguy1]

I finally downed this bastard on heroic last night. I did it with all my guys split up but it is quite difficult keeping them out of ice patches and healing and kiting all at the same time. This would probably be a fun fight with just one real person per toon lol, but it's a nightmare for me boxing it. I did turn a couple of my guys around when they got the brand but not everytime. The hardest part was i was so busy micromanaging the herd that when he did his knockback super enrage that i wasn't ready for it and basically spam healed through it most of the time because there weren't any ice patches near me. I'm tempted to try it with the whole group clumped up tonight. When he calls out someone for the wyrm to kill, can you avoid the shots?
Anyone found anywhere to stand that doesn't get hit by ice patches?

[Rms]

I finally downed this bastard on heroic last night. I did it with all my guys split up but it is quite difficult keeping them out of ice patches and healing and kiting all at the same time. This would probably be a fun fight with just one real person per toon lol, but it's a nightmare for me boxing it. I did turn a couple of my guys around when they got the brand but not everytime. The hardest part was i was so busy micromanaging the herd that when he did his knockback super enrage that i wasn't ready for it and basically spam healed through it most of the time because there weren't any ice patches near me. I'm tempted to try it with the whole group clumped up tonight. When he calls out someone for the wyrm to kill, can you avoid the shots?
Anyone found anywhere to stand that doesn't get hit by ice patches?

Clump them up. Do it in front front of the exit that goes to HoR

[remanz]

So what's the conclusion here.

stay in front of the entrance to HOR. no moving. Bloodlust and go to town ?

I took some severe damages last time I did that and couldn't heal back.

[Multibocks]

I move about 15 yards straight out from the entrance to cave, make sure you are a good 10 yards beyond the npcs that are helping with the adds. I dont use bloodlust and I position my tank so he gets knocked across ice. The position I use seems to never get hit by ice patches and I never have to strafe my team. Makes it real easy. I use cold resist totem and I do have an AoE healer (druid), although the team never seems to take any damage.

[outdrsyguy1]

Multibocks, can you post a screen shot of that position please? pretty please? with christmas cherry cordials on top?
Any time i was near the cave, i eventually got healer agro when a couple mobs broke through the lines and would just about one shot the healer so i tend to stay away from that side, but i'd def try again if i could find a place without the ice.
What do you do when he calls a target for the frostwyrm? doesn't the aoe freeze and stun everyone for 6 secs?

[Clone]

The ice patches are just random so I just hope the team doesnt get hit by them. If they do though its just a strafe out and continue. Tank and spank and use cooldowns when he does the knock back and enrage. If you are really struggling to down him its most likely a tank gear issue. Grab some more badges from heroics then come back and try again. Or pop some flasks and scrolls and go to town :)

[outdrsyguy1]

okay, so i tried the clump up thing with the team, I got lucky and never had to move them once. They never got hit by frost. It was about 15-20 yards out from door entrance to halls of reflection, probably just luck but it was hella easy compared to before. The freeze did stun eveeryone for 6 seconds but tank was topped and it wasn't a problem to heal back up.

is defense cap at 540 defense rating or defense? I'm at 542 defense rating and 510 defense.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Shadowmoon&n=Pallina

i'm amazed at the difference in difficulty of this fight. so easy when no one on your team gets hit and you aren't distracted with moving members.

[Niley]

okay, so i tried the clump up thing with the team, I got lucky and never had to move them once. They never got hit by frost. It was about 15-20 yards out from door entrance to halls of reflection, probably just luck but it was hella easy compared to before. The freeze did stun eveeryone for 6 seconds but tank was topped and it wasn't a problem to heal back up.

is defense cap at 540 defense rating or defense? I'm at 542 defense rating and 510 defense.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Shadowmoon&n=Pallina

i'm amazed at the difference in difficulty of this fight. so easy when no one on your team gets hit and you aren't distracted with moving members.

689 defense rating, 540 defense. For heroics its 535 defense.

[outdrsyguy1]

thanks niley, that's a pretty tall order :(
I have defense stat on almost every item and i'm lucky to get to 520 defense. I'll have to inspect more tanks to see how they do it and still have decent health.

[Multibocks]

Multibocks, can you post a screen shot of that position please? pretty please? with christmas cherry cordials on top?
Any time i was near the cave, i eventually got healer agro when a couple mobs broke through the lines and would just about one shot the healer so i tend to stay away from that side, but i'd def try again if i could find a place without the ice.
What do you do when he calls a target for the frostwyrm? doesn't the aoe freeze and stun everyone for 6 secs?


Sorry I didnt see this request until now. I will have to take a pic next time I do this and post it. Might be a while, I work all week =(

[outdrsyguy1]

it's cool Multibocks, i found it. done it 2 times in a row now, never had to move team once.

I went on a couple raids solo and now i'm at 555 defense or so lol. time to work on health! I gotta figure out how all those tanks are unbuffed 38k health. Hopefully the 228stam trinket this week will help a lot if i can get 15 more frost emblems. maybe if i do daily dungeon, clear icc tonight, and weekly raid could have it tonight!

[remanz]

downed him a couple times now on my dk + 4 pallies team. My strategy didn't change. Mostly just gearing up the tank. I was getting 1 shotted before. Have to bubble sacrifice on the paladin being marked by Rimfang. no other tricks.

Really, all the PVE progression ends with this guy for my team. Once I was able to farm him for the 2h weapon. PVE stops.

IMO, tank needs to be defense capped and 30k hp minimal to be able to take a beating from him. Average DPS 2k on 4 of my paladins. so saying 8k DPS is required is probably fair for your 5 men team. 3 dps team, you need about 2.7k dps average.

[thinus]

downed him a couple times now on my dk + 4 pallies team. My strategy didn't change. Mostly just gearing up the tank. I was getting 1 shotted before. Have to bubble sacrifice on the paladin being marked by Rimfang. no other tricks.

Really, all the PVE progression ends with this guy for my team. Once I was able to farm him for the 2h weapon. PVE stops.

IMO, tank needs to be defense capped and 30k hp minimal to be able to take a beating from him. Average DPS 2k on 4 of my paladins. so saying 8k DPS is required is probably fair for your 5 men team. 3 dps team, you need about 2.7k dps average.

Why is there a DPS requirement? It is not a DPS race, is it? I can understand for your team makeup it may be a DPS race but he doesn't have an enrage timer or anything, or does he?

[remanz]

For 5 solo players, this is not a DPS race. For boxing, I think it might be if you are not constantly moving your toons. We are taking a lot of frost damage from Rimfang. So the healer has to heal a lot in this fight. For my team, I am simply cheating with divine shield + divine sacrifice. By the time, I have used 4 of them if the boss is not near death, it will be over for me. For other boxing compositions, you don't have 30% damage reduction on group for 1min (unless you have 300+ frost resist). So you have to heal it through. and you are right. the DPS is not a requirement. It was just an estimation of what level of gear is suited for this encounter.

[pinotnoir]

I tried this yesterday and my first attempt everything went well until a mob decided to shadow volley my healer at 150k health. I made it to 50k when the last guy died. After that attempt I would get owned well before 500k health. I tried positioning my guys all over and nothing helped. About 15yards away from the npc worked the best but eventually some adds would come and own my team. I tried by the door to HoR but I got owned because of all the damage. I ignored the brand but I think it was doing too much damage to the tank. My tank was nearly dead with full lifebloom, rejuv, regrowth and heals. At this point I think he is not doable with my team. If someone has a better tactic I would like to hear about it.

[remanz]

What classes are you using ? DPS as range ? I assume you have at least 130 frost resist. Tank really needs to have 30k hp unbuffed. Paladin tank can may be having at little less since you got that "cheat death back to 30% full OPness".

Two things make this encounter hard. Tank damage and party damage. You are controlling the tank. So there are some ways to avoid getting 1 shotted. Your tank should at least take the beating from the red beam (coming from one of your dps). Heal through that. When he does a knock back, (this is by the way to help you escape, to start kitting), he will enrage and become larger. Find a icy patch on the ground, and kite him. If no icy patch around and he got near you, this is when you blow your defensive CD. His forceful smash can easily hit the tank for 15k-19k. My pathetic dk tank was getting 1 shotted until I got 32k hp unbuffed.

Party damage. Once in a while Rimfang will mark a person in your group and shoot a frost bolt at him after. He will be deep freezed, so is anybody around him. This is not too bad. This person will be marked on your healing UI. Heal him for that. What killed my group is when I played range dps (shamans) is this, standing in the icy patches on the ground, (same ones you use to kite the boss), the person who stands in it will take constant damage and will be snared. I find it kinda hard to heal him and the tank at the same time. But sometimes, you get lucky. Nobody will be standing in it through out the entire fight. So no moving could work. If you do get this, I suggest to move that character.


Some other stuff that I noticed, he will at least enrage twice maybe 3 times depending on how fast you can kill him. So kite him once and use defensive CD for the other. For paladin tank, this is not so bad. Cheat death once. Divine Protection the second.

Rimfang does the mark on your party one by one. He doesn't really mark the same person twice. (i don't know for sure, but it seems that way for me).

[thinus]

Party damage. Once in a while Rimfang will mark a person in your group and shoot a frost bolt at him after. He will be deep freezed, so is anybody around him. This is not too bad. This person will be marked on your healing UI. Heal him for that. What killed my group is when I played range dps (shamans) is this, standing in the icy patches on the ground, (same ones you use to kite the boss), the person who stands in it will take constant damage and will be snared. I find it kinda hard to heal him and the tank at the same time. But sometimes, you get lucky. Nobody will be standing in it through out the entire fight. So no moving could work. If you do get this, I suggest to move that character.


This was my experience to a certain extent. The icy patches killed my team. Just to place it in context, I've only had 2 attemps on heroic and killed him on the 2nd attempt. My kill came from my team standing in front of the exit chamber and they were never hit with a frosty patch. I ignored the debuff and just healed through it. He did some kind of knockback and enraged afterwards. I just let him come to me and continued dpsing him down.

Pally tanks also have the 12s damage reduction ability they can pop and some other mitigation tools. I am sitting on 35Kish hp fully buffed though.

[Gares]

I pretty much just spread out for my 4 shaman (3 Elemental and 1 Resto) in front of the HOR entrance and goto town on him. I don't move my shaman at all and just spam heal my tank with my resto and when the others get low I chain heal them with my resto.

I pretty much have this encounter down to a tank and spank now its so easy. Also if you are a pally use Frost res aura and when he knocks you back use Divine Protection and take 50% less damage to recover. Bloodlust and EM right away and its a cake walk.

[Niley]

Im not sure if this was said before, but you can mount up and run through packs before the tunnel, just the 2 bottom ones(also known as worst trash in the instance).
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/1048/wowscrnshot011110142359.jpg


Poing was the one that told me that :P

[Gares]

haha thats awesome. I was thinking that you might be able to do that but wasn't sure and never attempted it.

[Niley]

haha thats awesome. I was thinking that you might be able to do that but wasn't sure and never attempted it.
with a very geared tank you can run up all the way to the top and just tank both groups, i tried but failed, few more weeks and maybe ill have enough gear.(or maybe a dedicated healer?)

[BobGnarly]

Unfortunately, this fight seems to be a lot about luck. I've had times when I just stood in one place and blew him up, and others where I was moving all over trying to avoid this or that.

The main things I try to do:

1. start by blowing bloodlust and everything and do as much damage as possible early. This is when there is the least amount of things going on so you don't need to move much and healing is pretty light.

2. If your tank is geared up a little and you save your cooldowns, you can tank right through his enrage no problem. I can usually get him down with one or two of these phases, and it helps a lot to just ignore one of them. Things like clicky +dodge trinkets are great for this phase btw.

3. Strafe slaves out of frost patches.

4. Top tank off before dragon freezes your group.

With these few things, I can usually get through the fight with little fuss.

[kadaan]

I managed to get him down after 4 attempts. My tips:

1. Tank by the exit hallway. I also got heal aggro from a caster coming up the tunnel and he nuked my healer for 10k.
2. Spread out in a semicircle and do top-down view (so it's much easier to see which char is standing in a frost patch)
3. Reposition the boss so your back is always to an ice patch. This way it makes it easier to kite when he does the knockback

I didn't even know about Overlord's Brand when I was doing the fight, so I never stopped dps or healing for it. It seems like as long as you have a dedicated healer for your tank, it doesn't matter a whole lot when a dps gets it.

Like others, I also had a lot of trouble on the trash leading up to him. The 4melee+2caster groups just ate me alive. I'd drop D&D and grip the far caster into the group and dps him first, kill 2 melee, grip the second caster, then kill the last 2 melee. I think I wiped more on this trash than the boss. At least I'd manage to kill 1-2 of them before wiping, and the ones you kill do NOT respawn if you wipe :).

[crowdx]

Does anyone have a good plan for the trash leading up the hill? The single caster and 4 melee/caster guys who do the fire damage? I have only done this on regular but they are a pain to get through and I have wiped a couple of times on them. Once I get past them on regular I am normally able to one shot the rest easily.

[remanz]

Huh? didn't Niley just say you can mount up and run past them before she (the caster) summons them out ?

I assume after you down Ick. you just mount up and run past the hill before those 2 casters run down and summons the undead.

I didn't try this but it seems to be possible.

[crowdx]

I thought Niley was referring to the guys in the tunnel and not the casters on the first section of hill, do you mount up the second you kill ick and then loot once you have downed those caster women?

[remanz]

Niley's pic says it all

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/1048/wowscrnshot011110142359.jpg

the mobs were still there and he got up to the hill without killing them.

try loot fast on Ick, then mount up to the hill.

On a site note, should really just practice downing those mobs. after all, they drop hilt. AOE stun on undead if you are pally , fire resist aura, AOE slience if you are BE, they should be ok.

[Dorffo]

mount up, run up hugging the left side all the way - I can make it up with crusader aura on after a couple tries now.

If you manage to catch aggro opn the way: a well timed soulstone / ankh / DI etc at the very entrance to the cave can be a lot less costly then clearing those trash if they give ya trouble :D

[Slats]

Nice to know about avoiding that trash. I use a dedicated healer so those packs really are not that bad, just watch for the Fireball Debuff on one of your slaves and dispell it as it does quite alot of damage.

[boxblizzard]

im not sure how anyone has problems with this guy, i have never ever failed on him even first time.

i just dps him and range keeps max distance, ocassionally i will move the team by strafe to avoid the ice but he's usually dead so fast.

were doing 3.5-6k dps 3 dps 1 resto. resto make things easier, heals group and tank while i get uninterrupted dps from elementals

as for trash before last boss. (ones after ick an krick

the 2 packs are hard but you need to make sure the tank takes max aggro and dont let your dps AE this is to reduce problems. nuke casters first and you wont have a problem.

[KAC]

After reading through the comments and seeing what everyone else tried I decided to do tyrannus a different way.

1 resto sham 2 ele shams 1 moonkin 1 pally tank

I clump my guys on follow always! Trying to spread out and heal through ice damage is a no go. Itotally stop dps when any dps has the brand I just heal. I stop all healing if my healer gets the brand and just dps. I have no frost resist gear except the shammy tot. The key is to keep moving and when he calls for rimefang to blast someone this is when i hit my spread out formation. The blast only pos one guy I hit follow and rinse and repeat. I never used bloodlust or even wrath. My dps did pop my tank a few times but I managed to heal him up with riptide quick. Just try to keep away from frost patches that are clumped together so when you get a rimefang call to blast a party member you can spread out enough to not take ice patch damage. They do despawn after about 30 secs so you can basically kite him between two areas. I found that standing by the exit will result in aggo from cave mobs and a quick repair bill. Don't worry about kiting him when he gets his powershot might ability, he did minimal damage to my tank when I even got hit. Spreading the team out when the dam iceblast from the dragon hits was what worked for me. The fact I have over a 25k gear score combined for my team probably helped a ton too! I got a beheader and some palebone snowshoes for my moonkin on my first kill tonight. This guy is an absolute joke on normal mode and I don't even move but heroicdid toss a wrench in the works. I am glad that Tyrannus does not have some aoe cleave attack or god that would be hell!


edit: This is even easier

I clump my guys to the left of tyrannus and pop my tots. I engage him with pally about 30-35 yards from group so when he knocks back im still in front of my group so I can dps. I have done this using all cd's and have done this using no cd's at all. Dps him constantly and watch your toon for the brand I spam healing wave on tank when any dps has brand and just continue. Tyrannus can never out dps my 20k heals from shammy anyway. If healer gets brand I just stop healing and basically thats it. I never move my guys even for the target ice attack that does aoe damage I just pop one chain heal after that and its back to dps. The only thing that can wipe me doing it this way is if the dragon puts down too many frost patches in the immediate vicinity surrounding my slave group and then slams a patch down right on top of them. I'd say 80% of the time I never move my slaves ever and the ice patch never lands on them at all.

[jinkobi]

After a long long time of doing heroics and even farming trash on PoS I FINALLY finished that SOB! lol

Finally got Ick and Krick down which have been my major blockade. Just decided today that I'm going to keep trying and trying. So I got to fight Tyrannus on heroic mode after all these months!

Tyrannus I didn't find that difficult at all honestly. Paladin tank and 4 druids got the job done. Just spread my guys to the right of the cave entrance then went to town.

Key to the whole fight is HEAL when your DPS gets the brand and stop all DPS for a few seconds. If my healer gets the brand it didn't really seem to matter. But anyways glad I finally made the commitment to finish this PoS its initials do it justice ;)

[universal]

with krick and ick i just stack the slaves and move them forward whenever they're standing in poison. when the chasing or arcane barrage starts i just collect them all and run in circles until it's finished and then just dps again. found him kinda easy that way with not having to switch toons.

with the endboss i had no problem with a dedicated healer but once i changed to my priest and played all 5 i had some problems with him, some bad luck with where the "frost damage thing gets planted" and so on. so in the end i just spread the slaves out, didn't care for the mark and just burned him down.

my paladin has around 4.9k gs and the slaves are at 4,5k. running with 3 ele shamans + holy priest + paladin.

[Myc]

ick was fun to figure out but iwt/fallow the leader it is easy. just running around in circles all day owning this guy, if he is marks tank for chase then zomg spam dps. and if u cleared trash near u got plenty of room to run around, I norm get as far away as possible pop 2 flash heals on each pally by time he reaches me. (beware u can reset him tho.)

but.. last boss bleh =l Scourgelord Tyrannus is harrrrd. my tank can take the dmg but dmg output is lacking with out solid healer to heal thru the burn.
anyone else doing it as a tank/rets team got a good strat?

[jinkobi]

ick was fun to figure out but iwt/fallow the leader it is easy. just running around in circles all day owning this guy, if he is marks tank for chase then zomg spam dps. and if u cleared trash near u got plenty of room to run around, I norm get as far away as possible pop 2 flash heals on each pally by time he reaches me. (beware u can reset him tho.)

but.. last boss bleh =l Scourgelord Tyrannus is harrrrd. my tank can take the dmg but dmg output is lacking with out solid healer to heal thru the burn.
anyone else doing it as a tank/rets team got a good strat?

Has to be our group compositions lol. Tyrannus I really blew through that guy 1 shotted him To me and my team Ick and Krick cause more problems just do to the movement. Hard for Boomkins to DPS while running around in circles and target is behind you. At least my healer can roll the hots during the chase scenes.

Pretty sure my next serious try will go much smoother. I totally get the Ick strategy it's just executing it properly and one misstep usually means a death. BUT I got them all down and that's the main thing!

1 pally tank 3 boomkins and 1 treekin Tyrannus was easy sauce.. Now the tunnel before him <.< no comment, lol...

[Myc]

Now the tunnel before him <.< no comment, lol...

lol! u mean... u don't have 5 pallys with aoe stun to undead? and zomg ofmg OP aoe on undead? =l
lol grats on kills tho.
thinking im going to break down & buy the hilts even tho expac is getting closer n closer. then I can smoke him / or just not bother with him lol.

[Shodokan]

lol! u mean... u don't have 5 pallys with aoe stun to undead? and zomg ofmg OP aoe on undead? =l
lol grats on kills tho.
thinking im going to break down & buy the hilts even tho expac is getting closer n closer. then I can smoke him / or just not bother with him lol.

Beta hasn't started yet. So soon is really relative. I'd guess around september.

[jinkobi]

lol! u mean... u don't have 5 pallys with aoe stun to undead? and zomg ofmg OP aoe on undead? =l
lol grats on kills tho.
thinking im going to break down & buy the hilts even tho expac is getting closer n closer. then I can smoke him / or just not bother with him lol.

To farm hilts don't kill any bosses :)

Go in and you can kill everything except the bosses- click on the 'Teleport OUT of dungeon' button- then reset all instances. Click on the 'Teleport to dungeon' and clear everything except the bosses again! You seem to be able to do this endlessly.

Do this and you'll have a hilt in a few hours or a few minutes but you'll get one.

[Myc]

eh I farmed for a week.. got sick of it.. I got money to dump. bought 4 hilts 7k gold each.

[jinkobi]

Maybe I'm just lucky. Seen over 10 drop myself doing my farming thing- none drop when I was actually clearing the instances.

It's luck of the draw I guess. Got it on my very first kill in PoS once, and have gone for 5+hours without one drop. Never gone more than 5hrs though.

Like you said though most of us multiboxers have money to burn anyway ;) I don't even farm anymore and the only heroics I loot anymore are ICC 5mans.

[outdrsyguy1]

I had a crazy thing happen tonight, on the hill after ick and crick where the 4 groups of mobs spawn. I was working on the first group and I swear when I killed one of them in teh first group, the next 2 groups of mobs agro'd. It was impossible. Anyone seen this bug? I didn't do any crazy wide aoe or anything, just normal stuff, bear tank, pally dps, tree healer, and mage friend. The group way up the hill would agro and come running down along with the one just up the hill at the corner. My only guess is that when we bypassed the first 2 groups by mounting and running, then wiped on the 3rd group and had to start over, the first 3 groups got bugged or something and would agro when one in the first group died.

Anyone had this happen at all??????

[universal]

i just mount after ick and krick and skip the first two groups ;) so can't tell. but usually when such a thing happened to me it was some shaman misfiring because i just tabbed through the mobs and got one from another group :-)

[jinkobi]

i just mount after ick and krick and skip the first two groups ;) so can't tell. but usually when such a thing happened to me it was some shaman misfiring because i just tabbed through the mobs and got one from another group :-)


When I try this I get slaughtered. The second 2 groups aggro and I never drop aggro off the first 2. So what's the trick?

[jimbobobb]

When I try this I get slaughtered. The second 2 groups aggro and I never drop aggro off the first 2. So what's the trick?


Soon as you kill ick and krick loot up fast, mount up your guys, and just run up the hill - don't stop till you're past the first two groups at the bend.

As soon as you approach the hill the mobs spawn, so don't dither or be timid - mount up and hoof it.

[universal]

When I try this I get slaughtered. The second 2 groups aggro and I never drop aggro off the first 2. So what's the trick?

i stop after the first two groups and kill then the skeletons group. they're kinda simple and easy ;) i don't know how much crusader aura helps in getting past the mobs.

[Danash]

Anyone see it possible for a 5X Shaman team to be able to do this instance up to this boss for his shield? Or too difficult? Team needs a starter shield :P

[Feehza]

Its doable, i farm POS since 20k HP/ 2000 SP. With 25k HP/2500 SP i think garfrost heroic should work too.

[universal]

there is video somewhere on this forum where somebody clears the full instance on heroic with 5 shamans, but he was very well geared.

so with good tactics it should be possible on non heroic with good gear.

you could always buy the shield for emblems.

[OzPhoenix]

Just got through this. I treated Tyrannus like a tank 'n spank and just had the 4 rets heal the prot through his damage buff.

When he picked out a toon for the dragons shot, I just ran around, usually only 2-3 would get caught, so no biggie. The only issue is if I get caught in the dragons shot, but then Divine Shield does nicely for that (and has the bonus of me keeping Tyrannus in it till the shield is about to wear off...hehe)

[Maxion]

Anyone see it possible for a 5X Shaman team to be able to do this instance up to this boss for his shield? Or too difficult? Team needs a starter shield :P


there is video somewhere on this forum where somebody clears the full instance on heroic with 5 shamans, but he was very well geared.

so with good tactics it should be possible on non heroic with good gear.

you could always buy the shield for emblems.

Video in my youtube channel (link in my signature) of me clearing normal PoS with 5 shamans, rather low geared too.
(Main shaman about 4800 gearscore, other 4 about 4400)