Shodokan Presents... Yet another raf thread, Revenge of the RAF

[Shodokan]

For those of you whom do not have a DK team yet BUT they have already leveled a team past 55 and own WOTLK this is a rather effective way to grant levels since they work in the A>B>C>D>E method of leveling where A gets a bazillion levels for no stupid reason.

Anyway heres how it works.

Since DK with RAF will allow you to get to 60 in less than 20 minuets. That is 3 levels.... and allows you to grant them to ANYONE of any level below the cap like normal.

This means you can technically grant 9 levels per hour. Normally it takes 16-22 hours played time to get to 60 from questing. This method allows you to get to level 60 in four-six hours. And allows for many many quad boxing teams for those who want things like... Paladin>4 shammy,mages,warlocks,BM hunters, druids.

Doing this three times should allow for 5-6 teams worth of 4 classes, and then your main tank. (so this cuts out over 70 hours of play time)

If there is anything that is not clear about this, please let me know and i will make it more clear. Account A can have 10 level 60s in the time it takes you to do 2 teams from scratch.

If you are going to use this method AFTER your first time through. I HIGHLY suggest putting your tank type class on account E.


Just so you are aware it may take up to 5-6 hours to do this as i'm not sure how quickly your EXP will increase... I just know when i did RAF after like 3 quests on my DK he was next level... and each quest takes like 2 minuets.


Quick tip: Make sure to make all macros beforehand and put them in the shared account area so you can just keep them saved and not need to re-do them every time.

Every time this is done this is the result
E grants D 3 levels > D grants C 3 levels> C grants B 3 levels> B grants A 3 levels
D grants 1 level to C

So after a few times of doing this... C should have enough to keep the chain going longer etc.

[Ualaa]

The one caveat, you will need a toon of at least level 55 on the account before you can make a death knight on the account.
Unless they changed that.

Still, 3 levels per Death Knight as grants (upon attaining 56th, 58th and 60th levels), and to any 59th or lower toon on the team is certainly decent. And you can delete the DK's and repeat as much as you like.

Most of the quests are quite group friendly.
Stealing the mount is probably the only quest which wasn't group friendly.

[Shodokan]

The one caveat, you will need a toon of at least level 55 on the account before you can make a death knight on the account.
Unless they changed that.

Still, 3 levels per Death Knight as grants (upon attaining 56th, 58th and 60th levels), and to any 59th or lower toon on the team is certainly decent. And you can delete the DK's and repeat as much as you like.

Most of the quests are quite group friendly.
Stealing the mount is probably the only quest which wasn't group friendly.

aah yes... the 1 level per 2 levels... My bad.

Still, it cuts the time in half per team.

Like i said, this is assuming you have one team done with your character you hope to use as your tank or whatever.

3 levels per 20 minuets = 9 per hour, so you'd need just over 6 hours per team.


edit: first post updated

[yaki]

Yeah, we figured this out last year sometime. But in practice it works out such that you have so damn many granted levels on the downhill accounts that it doesn't matter by the time you get whatever you want done on the topmost account.

[Shodokan]

Yeah, we figured this out last year sometime. But in practice it works out such that you have so damn many granted levels on the downhill accounts that it doesn't matter by the time you get whatever you want done on the topmost account.

Granted levels act as "gained" levels though.... <shrug>

[Ualaa]

If you have a fairly geared toon to boost with, people have done 1-60th in 8-9 hours.

I've never done a team that quickly, but my speed runs aren't bad.
Something like 10-12 hours.

Most go something like:
Quest to 10th.

Alliance
- Deadmines to 16
- Stockades to 20
- Scarlet Monastery to 45
- Stratholme to 55
- Ramparts to 60

Horde:
- Shadow Fang Keep to 20.
Then same as alliance.





9 hours a team, is a bit faster then 10-12 for me.
Just depends on which is less boring.

After you've boosted 4 or 6 teams, you generally are done with boosting for a while.
Unfortunately, most of us decide down the road, class A would be good to box.
And it would have been faster during RAF.

Hindsight is 20/20.

[Shodokan]

If you have a fairly geared toon to boost with, people have done 1-60th in 8-9 hours.

I've never done a team that quickly, but my speed runs aren't bad.
Something like 10-12 hours.

Most go something like:
Quest to 10th.

Alliance
- Deadmines to 16
- Stockades to 20
- Scarlet Monastery to 45
- Stratholme to 55
- Ramparts to 60

Horde:
- Shadow Fang Keep to 20.
Then same as alliance.





9 hours a team, is a bit faster then 10-12 for me.
Just depends on which is less boring.

After you've boosted 4 or 6 teams, you generally are done with boosting for a while.
Unfortunately, most of us decide down the road, class A would be good to box.
And it would have been faster during RAF.

Hindsight is 20/20.

It could work just as easy to find someone to power level your teams, but it also would take approximately the same amount of time to do. The fastest i ever power lvled was 12 hours and 21 minuets from 1-60 with a prot paladin and mage.

So it could save you a day of your life to do it this way ATLEAST if you want to have almost every class, or every class as a 4some.

So if you were at max proficiency then you could do this pretty simply... but in 9 hours you can get like 81 levels opposed to 60. So thats a whole 10 extra dings per backwards jump for the same amount of time.

[Svpernova09]

This is not an "exploit", this is all working as intended.


I wouldn't be able to stand the DK starting zone that many times.

[Ellay]

The DK starting zone is really that fast ? I remember going through it once and it seemed like it took forever. Are there some quests you can straight up skip?

[Svpernova09]

The DK starting zone is really that fast ? I remember going through it once and it seemed like it took forever. Are there some quests you can straight up skip?


You can't really skip any of it. I think the OP is saying he can get to 60 without doing the entire zone (iirc raf'd DKs come out @ 61 or 62) So you can do the first bit over and over and over.

[Multibocks]

I remember the first time I granted 60 levels to a group, took forever to log them in and click grant/accept 60 times. =/

[Lokked]

Alright, I was thinking of returning to WoW to try out the melee multiboxing, but have not because I don't think I'll make it through the grind (I have no PLing classes).

If I renew my 5 accounts, with NO RAF, this method is not available to me, correct?

I haven't multiboxed since Season 3, so I've just got 4x 70 shaman on 4 accounts. I most likely don't plan on playing these chars, but is it worthwhile to buy 4 new Vanilla's then 4 BCs then 4 WotLK? Hmm....

Even at that point, I'd still have to level my first team to 55 before I could make DKs.

Just pondering to myself (on a public forum, I know). /sigh

[Multibocks]

No RAF = no free levels, so no it wont work for you.

[yaki]

I remember the first time I granted 60 levels to a group, took forever to log them in and click grant/accept 60 times. =/

Yeah, that's why I used a macro.

[Ualaa]

Alright, I was thinking of returning to WoW to try out the melee multiboxing, but have not because I don't think I'll make it through the grind (I have no PLing classes).

If I renew my 5 accounts, with NO RAF, this method is not available to me, correct?

I haven't multiboxed since Season 3, so I've just got 4x 70 shaman on 4 accounts. I most likely don't plan on playing these chars, but is it worthwhile to buy 4 new Vanilla's then 4 BCs then 4 WotLK? Hmm....

Even at that point, I'd still have to level my first team to 55 before I could make DKs.

Just pondering to myself (on a public forum, I know). /sigh


Sort of.

Depends on what you want to box with.

A 70 shaman, can boost through the Scarlet Monastery pulls quite easily.
Maybe not the entire instance in 1-2 pulls, but much faster then a normal pace.

If you want 4-5x DK's, I'd assume you have a 55+ on each of the five accounts.
As you mentioned 4x level 70's.
So you can start a 55 DK on those accounts, and be 57/58th by the time you leave the starting area, even without RAF.

If you decide on 4x Anything + 1x Something.
And they're new classes, which you don't have, then RAF is your best bet.

Take your single best tank type on any account.
Even a Resto druid, with AH green feral gear would work at 65+.
Or the best geared shammy if you lack the tank entirely.

Activate three accounts.
One to boost with.
Two to be boosted.
Purchase 2 classic wow accounts, which you will not upgrade.
Paying for 1 month of time, credits the 2 existing accounts with a month each, so its free essentially.
If you care about the Zhevra mounts (one toon on each existing accounts get one), pay for a 2nd month on the "throw away" accounts.
Boost away.

Your set up is:
A (Booster)
B (Existing) -- RAF Link -- Throw Away Account
C (Existing) -- RAF Link -- Throw Away Account

For every 2 toons boosted on BC/Garbage/Garbage, BC receive an extra 60 via granted levels.

You can repeat the process with the other two keeper accounts.

A will probably want a character transfer from at least one of BCDE.
If money isn't an issue, the bonus toons on BC from granted levels could all be moved to A.
Which gets ABC each having the same number of new toons, all at 60th.

[DrChaos]

call me crazy but iI do, level to 10, VC till 20, sm cath till 40, brd till 59. its pretty simple for me now that ive done it with 3 teams. working on the 4th as i type :)

[heyaz]

what do people do with all these teams at 60?

let them rot?

Interesting exploit, but doing the DK starting zone over and over sounds like about as much fun as herpes.

But then again so is boosting, even with a paladin.

[Moorea]

Have you actually tried this or this is theorycrafting ?

can you grant the level if the DK is still in their instanced zone - don't the granter and grantee have to be in range ? (and afaik you can't get in that zone if you're not a DK)

[Ualaa]

DK will need to get out of the starting area, or you'll need to get the recipient into the area.

You physically right click on the targets frame and select grant a level.

There was a macro, to offer the granted level.
And another to accept it.
Putting both on the same keybind, allowed a mash the button approach.

Still, you will basically need to leave the starting area.
Which means do all of the quests.
Should be 60th, with RAF by the time you exit.
So able to grant three levels, even the last three levels.

Since cascaded levels are lower as they go.
Having the option to grant high levels quickly is pretty good.

[Moorea]

doing all the starter DK zone quests isn't that quick - if you have RAF I'm not sure doing 57-60 with the raf'ed group you actually want isn't as fast than doing 55-60 with new throwaway DKs.

[boxblizzard]

its a good idea but in all fairness i would rather boost my chars with raf its so fast and you can benifit from looting aswell.

p.s

the dk beginning zone really sucks arse, very repetitive to keep doing.

[Souca]

I only see one problem with this method: Battle.net transfer lockout.

Unless you have a spare slot on your BN account where you plan to transfer the level 55 from to account E, you won't be able to transfer to the new BN account for the 30 or 90 day period (I forget which it is). You will need at least one 55+ to be able to make the DK on the E account, so you'll need a transfer or quick leveling to 55. Luckily RaF can span BN accounts so it doesn't matter if A, B, C, or D are on the same BN account unless you plan on transfering characters off after you boost them.

Personally, I think the method Ualaa mentions with the two vanilla accounts is the better method, especially if you picked up any of the Black Friday accounts for $5. It isn't the fastest, but it works with existing accounts so you don't have to worry about maintain new monthly fees, BC and Wrath upgrades, or waiting and then paying for character transfers. The big downsides are having to spend twice as much time boosting and have a lot of throw away 60s sitting on those accounts. Also, you won't be able to boost a whole team at the same time. This could be an upside though since you don't need to activate all the RaF accounts at once and if you can't get it done in 30 days, you only need spend the cost of a new Vanilla account to get another free month of RaF.

Hope that made sense.

- Souca -

[Lokked]

Following Uulaa's advice:

I have 5 existing accounts - A to E - I want to end up with 4 Paladins on Accounts B to E.

Account A - 79 Druid - Booster
Account B - New Paladin
Account C - New Paladin
New Account - RAF Link to B - Throw Away Account
New Account - RAF Link to C - Throw Away Account

Boost these guys to 60 (with the aim of keeping the Paladins on B & C).

Now is the part I don't understand about granting levels. I understand that the character on RAF accumulates 1 Grantable Level per even lvl gained, but are they able to grant ANY char who is lower level and <59 these levels? If so...

Grant a New Paladin created on Account A 30 + 30 levels from Accounts B & C.
Grant a New Paladin created on Account B 30+ 30 levels from the 2 Throw Away Accounts. Cancel Throw Away Accounts. I will have 2 lvl 60 Paladins on Account B.

Subscribe on Accounts D & E. Transfer Paladin on A to D. Transfer Extra Paladin on B to E.

So I would end up paying for 2 Vanilla Accounts ($~10) and 2 Transfers (~$50). I would end up with a 60 Paladin on Accounts B, C, D & E, which would have been boosted using RAF at the time cost of boosting a single group.

This sound right?

[Maxion]

A character on any given account can only directly grant levels to a character on the account that directly recruited that account.

[Shodokan]

I only see one problem with this method: Battle.net transfer lockout.

Unless you have a spare slot on your BN account where you plan to transfer the level 55 from to account E, you won't be able to transfer to the new BN account for the 30 or 90 day period (I forget which it is). You will need at least one 55+ to be able to make the DK on the E account, so you'll need a transfer or quick leveling to 55. Luckily RaF can span BN accounts so it doesn't matter if A, B, C, or D are on the same BN account unless you plan on transfering characters off after you boost them.

Personally, I think the method Ualaa mentions with the two vanilla accounts is the better method, especially if you picked up any of the Black Friday accounts for $5. It isn't the fastest, but it works with existing accounts so you don't have to worry about maintain new monthly fees, BC and Wrath upgrades, or waiting and then paying for character transfers. The big downsides are having to spend twice as much time boosting and have a lot of throw away 60s sitting on those accounts. Also, you won't be able to boost a whole team at the same time. This could be an upside though since you don't need to activate all the RaF accounts at once and if you can't get it done in 30 days, you only need spend the cost of a new Vanilla account to get another free month of RaF.

Hope that made sense.

- Souca -

If you are starting out leveling a main group to 60, you will have the level 55 to make the DK. No x-fering required.

Just make, grant, repeat... etc.

[Moorea]

battle.net lockout screwed me over - I'm now stuck with my 4 new toons maxed at 60.99 from wow classic + bc trial throwaway accounts, unable to transfer them back to my main accounts)

[Lokked]

A character on any given account can only directly grant levels to a character on the account that directly recruited that account.

Alright then...

Sounds like I'll have to do it the original way, boosting 2 accounts (along with 2 throw away accounts) up at a time all the way to 60. So are the granted levels going to help me out at all? Or just give the levels to some garbage char on the keeper accounts? I guess I'm returning to WoW. I've already reinstalled and cancelled EQ2 (for the time being).

[Ualaa]

Ideally you will:

Boost with A.
Keeper B --linked to-- Disposable D
Keeper C --linked to-- Disposable E

You boost four toons on BCDE to 60th.
D and E, grant 30 levels to new toons on B and C.

You boost four more toons on BCDE to 60th.
D and E, grant 30 more levels to the toons on B and C.

For every two sets of four toons you boost.
The B/C accounts each get one free 60th.