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Skuggomann
01-08-2008, 03:48 AM
Epic Flying Mounts: 6/4
Current LvL:70!
Current LvL on new grp:70!
Hi ive been resercign boositng ALOOt becouse that is what i beleve in XD
so i jsut wanted to shere soem of the info ive gatherd with you and hope to put mroe in l8ter on.
---*Mage*---
I found these speccs for my lvl 70 1000+ spelldmg mage to be werrry helpfull :)
(fire/frost)
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=oZVgGubc0obZbAMccbxsbo
Herer you have ice barryer, imp Flamsestryke (+15% crit) so you can get upp to 45-50% crit on that, blaswave and Nova + Cone of Cold.
This shud roughly translate into 4000-6000 dmg wich is enuf to take down most mobs in the lvl range of 1-50 :)
***
this wud be even better:
(arcane/frost)
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=oV0icRczLIziZZbAMc00xz
This one is more for the firemage sinse yhey tend to have over 1000 fire/arcane dmg and less than 700 frost, this is thought as a runn threw arcane everytign and have lsots of mana for mana shield. i havent tryed it but i reccon is shud work well.
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This ist he oen i use atm:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=of0qcoMZZbAMIcfxsbqz
---*Warrior*---
(1H or 2H Fury)
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LV0xZVVuAxxRizio
This is a specc for maad cleve swepigns strikes and WW madness, considdering the milions of mobs on you you shud have Enrage, Flurry and bloodcraze upp at all times and then jsut wtf pwn.
Ireccomend slow hitting 2H like Bloodmoon ('http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28436') for on lvl 1-50's it shdu crit for 2-4k with resonable AP
Equip your +AP trinkets! :)
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(2H Arms)
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LV0tzAio0cboZVVzA0xR *
Thsi si just some out of the blue specc for 2H Arms if enny 1 prefers that
(*Not reccomended)
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Here are some pritty rough guides bu thtey help :)
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3547602078&sid=1&pageNo=1
Before the release of 2.3, I power leveled a priest from 1-60 in 3 and a half days:
http://totallosers.net/upload/osun60.jpg
But with the release of 2.3, I decided to level another (well, help a friend level a guy that is). We got his guy level 1 to level 60 in 1 day, 20 hours, 50 minutes, 26 seconds:
Right before level 60: http://totallosers.net/upload/ryth59.jpg
Turning 60: http://totallosers.net/upload/ryth60.jpg
This was with very little rested bonus, as we did this in a one week period of time. Needless to say, we had some free time to pull this off. :)
Edit: We did by exclusively runnings instances once he hit level 20.
20-25 in RFK
25-40 in Scarlet Monetary (Library -> Armory -> Cath, reset)
40-46 in ZF http://totallosers.net/upload/zf_path.jpg
46-51 in BRD http://totallosers.net/upload/brd_path.jpg
51-60 in Scholo http://totallosers.net/upload/scholo-path.jpg
I just used this Warrior to do all the damage with the Paladin running in the background looting bodies, healing and keeping Blessings of Kings on me.
Here's a short video Ryth put together of some video he captured:
http://files.filefront.com/Ryth+1+60wmv/;9321192;/fileinfo.html
Or the Youtube version: http://youtube.com/watch?v=nEFocaQYXC4
It was put together right after we got him to 60, so it isn't the best of quality. But it at least shows what pulling looked like with a Warrior doing it.
AND
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1371597657&sid=1&pageNo=1
TLDR:
http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?image=priest16fa3.jpg
http://img410.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shaman6fj0.jpg
*****REQUIRED**** level 70 Frost mage to power level:
1-8 quest 1-2 hours
8-16 RFC 4-5 hours
16-20 deadmines 6-8 hours
20-43 SM cath/armory. 8-16 hours (obtained 200g from silver and selling gray items, found 2 staff of jordans)
DETAILS
8-16 RFC: 2-4 pulls depending on gear. 8-12 minute runs. will have some lock-out time. log out.
16-20 deadmines: 11-13 minute runs including reset time. minimal looting.
20-43 SM cath/armory: CATH: 6-8 minutes 4 pulls , minimal looting and zone out after all the mobs die, run away from the boss to save time. zone into armory. ARMORY: 3 pulls. skip the last boss, skip looting last pull to save time. zone out, reset (12-15 minutes for both cath and armory)
http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=smji5.jpg
http://img112.imageshack.us/my.php?image=armoryfr1.jpg
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updated:
43-47 took me 3 hours, and could have been done faster. i stayed in SM until level 45 (was catching a friend up). It wasn't really that bad though, it was decent xp (but could have been better)
we msged some shamans for windfury totem, dropped our mage, and picked up a warrior.
we skipped ZF and went straight to BRD. At 45 i was getting 80k / hour, my 43 friend was getting 65k.
on my shaman, i remember getting closer to 100-115k / hour in ZF, but i really didnt like the instance so we tried to skip it. didnt work out so hot, and we plan to go back to ZF until 50 (need mageweave as well).
currently have a little over 19 hours played at 47, next stop is ZF
Hopfully more to come :) feel free to correct spellign and aadding your expiriense and 2 cents.
This is How i do them:
RFC:
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f361/skuggomann/RagefireChasm.jpg
RFK:
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f361/skuggomann/RazorfenKraul.jpg
SM - Chatedral:
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f361/skuggomann/ScarletMonastery-Mephea.jpg
*more instances comming soon
perseph
01-08-2008, 04:27 AM
At first, i had the enjoement to push my 3 shamans from 10 - 45
10-15 ragefire
15-20 deadmines
20-45 sm
A friend has lend my his mage -> deep frost and his warri -> dw
i have to say forgett the warri and take the mage
sm cathe was finish in 3 pulls but i think without the frost ele's nova i would be death quite often
Have tried strat with mage / warri but im not skilled enougt to do that right :P so questing was the faster way
from 45-62 (now) i have done quests but a friend who has boosted his pala with the same tactic
is already 70, got the figure of colossus trinket and has skilled prot to do aoe farming
and its so fast u wount belive :D
You can pull the whole cathe won't die and kill all at the same time.
In strat he is able to pull 4-5 packs of this nonelite/elite and it is dead easy to kill them.
I belive it is possible to take a mage and aoe them down but the pala is the save way.
Take a mage and do it till level 20 then, if it is possible get a pala :D
sorry for my english -> austria ! :)
cepheus
01-08-2008, 05:03 AM
I tried boosting my locks in SM with my paladin. I could do the whole cathedral in one single pull in there. Usually I hit the 5times/hour limit within 30 minutes of grinding.
beyond-tec
01-08-2008, 05:05 AM
*WARNIN: donot try to do PvE, PvP or enny oter activity ecsept AoE with tese speccs or you will PHAIL! XD
eeh....
what language is that???
warnin?
donot?
enny?
oter?
ecsept?
tese?
phail?
Wilbur
01-08-2008, 05:38 AM
eeh....
what language is that???
American :-)
beyond-tec
01-08-2008, 05:45 AM
sure? :lol:
sounds like this L337 H4X0R stuff.
Wilbur
01-08-2008, 05:51 AM
sounds like a this L337 H4X0R stuff.
I thought that was American :-(
Kyudo
01-08-2008, 07:12 AM
That's my sentiment too. I'd correct the english if it was english, but it's not really even an attempt at English, you can do better I'm sure.
Skuggomann
01-08-2008, 08:58 AM
That's my sentiment too. I'd correct the english if it was english, but it's not really even an attempt at English, you can do better I'm sure.
Yeah if I spend 1 hour correcting it. XD
Wilbur did it for you <3
unit187
01-08-2008, 11:50 AM
I have found out that mage is pretty nice for aoe grinding but not perfect. Pala does it much batter. The biggest problem of a mage is low health, armor and stuff.
With arena set and 11.4k hp I cant, for example, clear whole armory with 1 pull even with 4 resto shammies lvl 3X healing me. Just getting overloaded :P
I was grinding in PvE frost and then PvE fire tho, no special specc because respeccing for raid everyday sucks.
Skuggomann
01-08-2008, 11:56 AM
Wilbur did it for you <3
Well thank you Mr. Chained upp crazyman :)
Wilbur
01-08-2008, 12:02 PM
rawr
Skuggomann
01-09-2008, 07:15 PM
I put this to the test with my lvl:
70 mage x1
lvl 1 mage x2
lvl 1 lock x2
and i got to lvl 16 in 6H played! XD thats the fastest ive ever done
i did kill Q from lvl 1-8 took about 3H played and then ran RFC from 8-17 and am going to go RFK then to lvl 20/25 and then SM Cath to lvl 40 :)
hoping to hit lvl 30/40 in under 1D /gametime XD
Skuggomann
01-10-2008, 04:19 AM
Im planign on:
17-20/25 in RFK
20/25-40/45 in Scarlet Monetary (Armory -> Cath, reset)
Tactic: Cath= http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=smji5.jpg
Armory= http://img112.imageshack.us/my.php?image=armoryfr1.jpg
Here im gona swich out lvl 70 mage for lvl 70 warrior speced like this: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LV0g0hbZVVuAxxoVzro
the reson is that mage starts taking loads of dmg aroudnthis lvl so i need to take smaller pulls and therfor slower exp/hr
40/45-46 in ZF http://totallosers.net/upload/zf_path.jpg
46-51 in BRD http://totallosers.net/upload/brd_path.jpg
51-60 in Scholo http://totallosers.net/upload/scholo-path.jpg
Enny sujestions? :)
Skuggomann
01-10-2008, 03:59 PM
I got to lvl 20 in just under 9H 35M.
Personally this is by far my best lvlig time and hope it will skyrocked from lvl 20-40 in SM caht/armory
Negativ1337
01-10-2008, 04:37 PM
:D Thanks now i have some new things to do aswell :P
I am thinking of leveling 2 shamans and boosting them with my 62 mage-70 warrior. I always go:
1-12 Quests
12-17 Deadmine boosts with Mage. (Just asking low level noobs to join to loot bodies-exp bonus)
17-25 Stockades with Warrior. (Got 23-24 in 4 minutes /played)
25-40 SM Arms-Cath with Mage. (My mages can pull Arms in 4 pulls and Cath in 5-6)
40-46 ZF with Warrior. (Try to pick up as much quests if possible)
46-55 BRD with Warrior. (Grab the tunnels, let shammies heal when you need to regen.)
55-60 Ramparts boosting.
That will be the plans for me for the upcoming 1 month :P
I got my 52 frost mage 1-52 in... 11 days real playing times. Around 10h per day.
Slats
01-10-2008, 05:32 PM
Skuggo I couldn't type worse than you if I rolled my face on the keyboard while stabbing myself repeatedly with an eggbeater.
And its fucking hilarious. I think your just a lazy typer and type faster than you actually can handle but the results are most amusing.
I did the mage boosting thing for ages but it bores the shit out of me. Now I kinda wish I had the options (re-rolled) but ah well.
You could totally smash strat if you were say boosting with a mage and 4 shamans/priests/healer as clones you could just heal the 'booster'.
Keep up the research.
-Slats
marvein
01-10-2008, 06:02 PM
Skuggo I couldn't type worse than you if I rolled my face on the keyboard while stabbing myself repeatedly with an eggbeater.
And its fucking hilarious. I think your just a lazy typer and type faster than you actually can handle but the results are most amusing.
I did the mage boosting thing for ages but it bores the shit out of me. Now I kinda wish I had the options (re-rolled) but ah well.
You could totally smash strat if you were say boosting with a mage and 4 shamans/priests/healer as clones you could just heal the 'booster'.
Keep up the research.
-Slats
strat is doable with a 70 just cant pull half the instance and aoe like you cna in WC or w/e lol. Ive done live side several times on a 70 shaman or hunter, however I was not able to solo the final boss without help from another 70, but I havent tried it in a while though and my gear is many times better than it was so who knows. (we were farming orbs)
Skuggomann
01-11-2008, 12:39 PM
I boosted SM to day, lvl 20-25 and i have 13H /played.
To me that is pritty nice and SM is the best boostign place by far <3
(hoping to get to 30+ to day)
kadaan
01-11-2008, 01:30 PM
I've found stockades to be far better than SM for 20-25. On my mage I can do it in 4 pulls (middle, left, and 2 for the right because they knockdown.) About 6m for a run, ~3.5 runs per level. I've just been doing a few runs for 30-45m during lunch. Level 24 with 10h playtime.
Skuggomann
01-11-2008, 04:49 PM
DING! lvl30 :) in 17H /played.
cud have done this faster but hey im not god XD
Skuggomann
01-11-2008, 06:02 PM
Well final for to day was 18H played at 50% to 32 :)
amign for 36-40 to morrow XD
i think skuggo is english 2nd language
not a bad guide if you take a few minutes to decipher it ;)
amalgam
01-12-2008, 12:44 AM
i think skuggo is english 2nd language
not a bad guide if you take a few minutes to decipher it ;)
Skuggo is young and European (he plays on Frostmane EU), both of which might contribute to his deplorable typing.
Skuggomann
01-12-2008, 03:42 AM
English is my 3rd XD
I speak and live in iceland and there the grammer is sett upp TOTALY different! wich sucs XD
and then norwegan is nr 2 (cant type it thou :S) and english in nr three :S
... i jea and the fact that im diagnosed with Dislexia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dislexia) dosnt help eather :(
Hers a Quote from vikipedia:
Dyslexia is a specific learning disability that manifests primarily as a difficulty with written language, particularly with reading and spelling.
Squiggoth
01-12-2008, 10:28 AM
No offense, dude, but you have almost perfect English grammar (almost better than most Americans I see on the web). It's the lack of proof-reading or caring about the spelling that gets some of us crazy.
Please, for the love of all things multiboxing holy, go here:
http://www.spellcheck.net/ and dump your post there first, spell check it, then paste it here. =P
efwee
01-12-2008, 10:50 AM
Keep up the nice work Skuggoman, pretty nice guide :>. There's alot of posts spread around a bunch of different forums, but this puts it all nicely together in 1 place.
"Unfortunately" my team consists of 5 and is lvl 42 atm, but regardless if I ever roll a single alt again, boost it with my mage.
Skuggomann
01-12-2008, 11:04 AM
No offense, dude, but you have almost perfect English grammar (almost better than most Americans I see on the web). It's the lack of proof-reading or caring about the spelling that gets some of us crazy.
Please, for the love of all things multiboxing holy, go here:
http://www.spellcheck.net/ and dump your post there first, spell check it, then paste it here. =P
jea i used this crap for a wile but it gets boring, i might use it for the bigger posts. (see I'm already on the way)
Negativ1337
01-12-2008, 06:24 PM
xD
Ding 24x (10h59m) and i also walked to trainer and learned skills. One more level stockades then its time for SM :)
And yes your english sucks. But i just try to read it fast and then you wont notice the miss-spells :P
samuraicow
01-12-2008, 07:41 PM
the warrior builds listed at first page aint to great, i would go for some thing more like this (http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LV0cZVxuhxxRVzao0xt)
then again, why bother when any aoe class is rather better :p
higher level it certainly aint any aoe class, squishy's get beat to hard
Skuggomann
01-12-2008, 11:18 PM
Ahhh looooooong day to day XD
went from lvl 31-36!! :) and im sittign at 22H /played.
Of cours i can be faster but i dotn liek to stress my self XD and seing it took me 3D 10H /played to get my 4x shaman team to lvl 42 im pritty happy :)
SM cath from lvl 20-32 is 2 runns for 1 lvl but after that its 3 runns a lvl or more :S
thinking of going ZF at lvl 37/38
Heres a lsit of instances that i use to see wen i can enter:
http://www.wowwiki.com/Instances_by_level
Skuggomann
01-13-2008, 06:46 PM
DING lvl40!! o jea i did it XD digned with 1D 1H /played :)
i stayed at SM till lvl 40 but lvl 37-40 wer slow :S about 1hr each.
going for BRD to morrow :)
Negativ1337
01-14-2008, 03:51 PM
Nice gratz :D
I am doing the same as you now ^^ Level 34 ding in SM Cath. But i already have 23h45m played :< But i waited 2 hours today for summon lol and my mage is 62 so i cant pull whole SM in once :P
Keep this up to date i want to see your plan :P
Skuggomann
01-18-2008, 03:16 AM
Dinged lvl 45 with 1D 9H /played.
think im gona do ZF to 50 then quests from 50-55 and then Ramparts with a friend.
negativ
01-18-2008, 09:29 PM
gz :)
I got lvl 46 in 1d 13h played now. Kinda nice imo :D
Tomorow i'll check out BRD :) Hope the exp will be worth it
Stabface
01-18-2008, 10:01 PM
Skuggomann are you looting as you go along?
I'm boosting up some Shaman right now using my 70 Paladin, just hit Stockades at L16. I haven't been looting yet as that really slows me down, but it seems like a lot of gold would go to waste once I hit Scarlet Monastery...
I thought about bringing along some repair bots and use those to vendor junk when I get full, then run my Paladin out to the nearest mailbox with valuables. But I can't help but think it would be better to just skip all looting and get to Outlands ASAP.
Nice playtimes so far though :) Curious to see how well you do 45-50 as thats the stretch I'm worried about!
Gallo
01-19-2008, 12:00 AM
Skuggomann are you looting as you go along?
I'm boosting up some Shaman right now using my 70 Paladin, just hit Stockades at L16. I haven't been looting yet as that really slows me down, but it seems like a lot of gold would go to waste once I hit Scarlet Monastery...
I thought about bringing along some repair bots and use those to vendor junk when I get full, then run my Paladin out to the nearest mailbox with valuables. But I can't help but think it would be better to just skip all looting and get to Outlands ASAP.
Nice playtimes so far though :) Curious to see how well you do 45-50 as thats the stretch I'm worried about!Skipping looting would be a BAD idea IMHO. Especially in SM. You'd be missing out on a ton of gold that you'll need for potentially 5 ground mounts and 5 epic ground mounts. Plus, depending on your classes, leveling tailoring and enchanting from cloth and greens you get in the instances is great.
I would start looting in the Stockades and do it all the way to the Outlands. Unless of course you have like 6-7k extra gold on your account.
Skuggomann
01-19-2008, 11:58 PM
Dinged lvl 50 (1D 23H /played) and then l8ter lvl 52 and 1/2 (2D 4H /played) to day.
I was in ZF till lvl 50 (lvl 49-50 takes fkkin 4 runns! :S) and then i went and boosted my guys trew quests, hers how that went:
lvl 50-51: The Hinterlands! its awsome i got 125% of a lvl
lvl 51-52(and 1/2): WPL the quests there are done so fkkin fast!!
planing on:
lvl 52-53: Un'Goro
lvl 53-55: Felwood
lvl 55-56: Whinterspring
lvl 56-58: WPL and maby Silithus if nessesery.
lvl 58-60: Hellfire spenensula.
lvl 60+ :INSTANCES! :)
Hippieman
01-20-2008, 02:29 AM
As for the warrior-template, if you're going in with a 2H and a fury-spec then you're better off with Improved Slam than Improved Berk Rage. SS + Slam = <3
drope
01-20-2008, 01:07 PM
English is my 3rd XD
I speak and live in iceland and there the grammer is sett upp TOTALY different! wich sucs XD
and then norwegan is nr 2 (cant type it thou :S) and english in nr three :S
... i jea and the fact that im diagnosed with Dislexia dosnt help eather :(
Same here, english is my 3rd language after portuguese and spanish.
What bothers me is not your grammar, but the l33t speak thing.
Seems like a good guide, but I can't really tell because my head hurts when I try to read it.
Good work anyway
^^
Negativ1337
01-20-2008, 05:42 PM
DING 53!x2
My shamans just leveled 50-53 today in scholo and the exp is insane O_o
Morganti
01-21-2008, 01:24 PM
I did 1-40 on 4 shammies in 28 hours. My goal was to do it in 30, but I came up ahead of schedule. I'll most likely start "normal" questing at this point since mage boosting doesn't do well past SM IMO and I'm tired of seeing SM. :)
Quested to 8.
RFC to 13 with my 70 mage.
SFK to 18.
RFK to 20
SM Armory to 33.
SM Cath to 40.
I did 1-40 on 4 shammies in 28 hours. My goal was to do it in 30, but I came up ahead of schedule. I'll most likely start "normal" questing at this point since mage boosting doesn't do well past SM IMO and I'm tired of seeing SM. :)
Quested to 8.
RFC to 13 with my 70 mage.
SFK to 18.
RFK to 20
SM Armory to 33.
SM Cath to 40./whisper Morganti, you are not going to make it in time! ;)
Skuggomann
01-24-2008, 06:13 PM
DING lvl 58, took me 3D 3H /played and now i can finally gear these guys upp XD
ilikemages
01-24-2008, 07:59 PM
3x mages sitting at 39
Negativ1337
01-25-2008, 02:58 AM
DING 61x2
Got 3d20h played now. But i also went in AV yesterday to pwn some noobs. Went actually really well.
Lanvidas
01-28-2008, 07:14 AM
DING 61x2
Got 3d20h played nowSame tactics? AOE farming instances?
Steph
01-28-2008, 07:43 AM
Skuggomann are you looting as you go along?
I'm boosting up some Shaman right now using my 70 Paladin, just hit Stockades at L16. I haven't been looting yet as that really slows me down, but it seems like a lot of gold would go to waste once I hit Scarlet Monastery...
I thought about bringing along some repair bots and use those to vendor junk when I get full, then run my Paladin out to the nearest mailbox with valuables. But I can't help but think it would be better to just skip all looting and get to Outlands ASAP.
Nice playtimes so far though :) Curious to see how well you do 45-50 as thats the stretch I'm worried about!Skipping looting would be a BAD idea IMHO. Especially in SM. You'd be missing out on a ton of gold that you'll need for potentially 5 ground mounts and 5 epic ground mounts. Plus, depending on your classes, leveling tailoring and enchanting from cloth and greens you get in the instances is great.
I would start looting in the Stockades and do it all the way to the Outlands. Unless of course you have like 6-7k extra gold on your account.I just hit 40 on my shamans, boosting them with my tankadin.
Regarding looting, I think you have to compare the 5s per corpse on these runs with the money you can make with your 70 in the same time.
Effectively its not silver going to waste, but you spending time to pick up silver when you could do daily quests.
I tried ZF, but had a problem keeping up with the stacking healing totems that these guys put down. I will go and give it a wirl with a warlock to see if I can overpower multiple groups with Seed of Corruption.
Sanctume
01-28-2008, 02:06 PM
Skuggomann are you looting as you go along?
I'm boosting up some Shaman right now using my 70 Paladin, just hit Stockades at L16. I haven't been looting yet as that really slows me down, but it seems like a lot of gold would go to waste once I hit Scarlet Monastery...
I thought about bringing along some repair bots and use those to vendor junk when I get full, then run my Paladin out to the nearest mailbox with valuables. But I can't help but think it would be better to just skip all looting and get to Outlands ASAP.
Nice playtimes so far though :) Curious to see how well you do 45-50 as thats the stretch I'm worried about!Skipping looting would be a BAD idea IMHO. Especially in SM. You'd be missing out on a ton of gold that you'll need for potentially 5 ground mounts and 5 epic ground mounts. Plus, depending on your classes, leveling tailoring and enchanting from cloth and greens you get in the instances is great.
I would start looting in the Stockades and do it all the way to the Outlands. Unless of course you have like 6-7k extra gold on your account.I just hit 40 on my shamans, boosting them with my tankadin.
Regarding looting, I think you have to compare the 5s per corpse on these runs with the money you can make with your 70 in the same time.
Effectively its not silver going to waste, but you spending time to pick up silver when you could do daily quests.
I tried ZF, but had a problem keeping up with the stacking healing totems that these guys put down. I will go and give it a wirl with a warlock to see if I can overpower multiple groups with Seed of Corruption.Looting depends if you plan to do any skill ups, such as Enchanting and Tailoring.
With Boosting, you have 12.5 minutes for each reset of the instance (that's 5 per hour). With my 70 Prot Paladin, I 2 pull SM Cath within 8 minutes; and do Sm Armory in 2 pulls, in 5 minutes. That's without looting.
With looting, I do 3 pulls on SM, and do it within 12 minutes. 1 minute to run out and reset, and I get 5 clears per hour + loot.
iodine
02-01-2008, 02:31 AM
I've found stockades to be far better than SM for 20-25. On my mage I can do it in 4 pulls (middle, left, and 2 for the right because they knockdown.) About 6m for a run, ~3.5 runs per level. I've just been doing a few runs for 30-45m during lunch. Level 24 with 10h playtime.i have been do this on a pally and there is so much lock out .. but its weird the alt gets locked out before the main.
Delnoch
02-01-2008, 07:49 AM
howdy fellow multiboxers,
I just wanted to add my 5p, ve'been boosting my 4 toons with a lvl 70 warrior, pretty well dressed, and after one day it seems to me that it's alot cheaper and about same speed if you do it in prot build. Rather then when you do it as a fury, this is due to the fact that most of our (warriors) aoe is not really an aoe. and WW is not as effective as Cleave because you cant really spam it. As I've mentioned above when you boost with warrior on a low lvl, if you dual weld it becomes really expensive, because of the way blizzard set up item durability - it doesn't matter how hard you are being hit what matters is how often it happens. So after an hour or two you end up paying 25-30g, repair costs if you are decked out in epics, as i am. But when you are prot specked you repair your shield for 15g and carry on. Plus you care less about disarm.
as a reference here is my booster http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Shadowmoon&n=Delnoch
p.s. It seems to me that THE ultimate lvl booster would be a prot pally.
Averon
02-01-2008, 08:59 AM
I don't have a problem using my MS warrior with whirlwind and cleave, though I typically do Cathedral in 5-6 pulls. The repair costs aren't much different from raiding for a night.
I didn't bother with looting for a bit but then decided to start when I realized I needed 75 stacks of wool to do the cloth turn-ins for each character.
Delnoch
02-01-2008, 10:32 AM
well, :huh: i wasn't trying to say that it's not possible to boost with MS or DW/Fury, what i did say - it feels to me that prot, in fact is a cheaper and more efficient way to go, for boosting. Repair cost are definitely reduced - hence you don't have to think about budget, just keep on going. Speed of boosting is comparable if not faster - with rage generation from block while at the same time reduced damage allows you to do bigger pulls and keep cleave + revenge (2 rage cost) spam. If you still have some rage left after that you can always toss in some devastate at 9 rage cost.
p.s. But at the lvl difference that we talk about, lvl 70 vs 20-50, all of the above is more like fod question- just as long as you know your limits. You do SM cath in 5 pulls i do in 2 - but does it matter? :whistling:
Sanctume
02-01-2008, 11:03 AM
well, :huh: i wasn't trying to say that it's not possible to boost with MS or DW/Fury, what i did say - it feels to me that prot, in fact is a cheaper and more efficient way to go, for boosting. Repair cost are definitely reduced - hence you don't have to think about budget, just keep on going. Speed of boosting is comparable if not faster - with rage generation from block while at the same time reduced damage allows you to do bigger pulls and keep cleave + revenge (2 rage cost) spam. If you still have some rage left after that you can always toss in some devastate at 9 rage cost.
p.s. But at the lvl difference that we talk about, lvl 70 vs 20-50, all of the above is more like fod question- just as long as you know your limits. You do SM cath in 5 pulls i do in 2 - but does it matter? :whistling:A level 70 can do well up to level 40 / SM instance grind.
But after that, it becomes less efficient since the amount of xp to grind also goes up.
So at level 40, boost questing is better than AoE instance grind, except if you have a 7o prot Paladin that can rack up lowbies with 50k+/hr
But still, that gravy train slows down by level 55, and that gap to 55 to 58 is slow going doing quests in the old world, but slower using AoE boosting.
However, I can still think of AoE boosting with 2 Prot Paladins, or 1 Prot Paladin + Mage (or Warlock Seed of Corruption)
Schwarz
02-01-2008, 11:21 AM
The problem with a prot warrior is how long it takes to kill the mobs. With my main I can grind the crap out of a bunch of stuff but it takes a long time to kill everything. Mind you I haven't tried this in conjunction with multiboxing or the lower level dungeons yet it is just my opinion. I also feel that a well geared prot warrior can do anything that a prot pally can (at least with the trinket from shattered halls you can ;-) ). Has anyone had any experience using a prot warrior to level their lowbies?
Defsync
02-03-2008, 02:47 PM
After gettin my alt pali to 55 i took him to blades edge with my 70 mage. Good place to AOE farm for exp for the alt + you make good money from silver and netherweave and aldor rep items and greens
got my mages to 16 today.
SFK = shit. Stupid agro on entrance, random patrols/spawns, magic immune mobs, and low density of mobs. Don't waste your time here if youre mage or lock.
Omw to deadmines :)
ilikemages
02-09-2008, 03:44 PM
I'm level 47... and have no dedicated instance runner.
What should i be doing? questing? aoe grinding regular mobs? whispering hundreds of people till i find a mage/prot pally/fury warrior/enhance shaman who can run me through brd?
I'm at a stand still because no one likes running brd, especially for people they don't know.
I tried joining 4 different guilds (1 on each alt and 1 on my main) and still no one helps.
wougoose
02-09-2008, 04:17 PM
I'm level 47... and have no dedicated instance runner.
What should i be doing? questing? aoe grinding regular mobs? whispering hundreds of people till i find a mage/prot pally/fury warrior/enhance shaman who can run me through brd?
I'm at a stand still because no one likes running brd, especially for people they don't know.
I tried joining 4 different guilds (1 on each alt and 1 on my main) and still no one helps.I'd quest in your situation. I have access to a 70 mage and I'll still be questing 40+.
Atorifan
02-09-2008, 07:47 PM
got my mages to 16 today.
SFK = shit. Stupid agro on entrance, random patrols/spawns, magic immune mobs, and low density of mobs. Don't waste your time here if youre mage or lock.
Omw to deadmines :)I found sfk to be quite good. 70 mage boost the then 18-23 mage. But I tend to aoe groups of 4 or 5 at a time aoe, loot and move on. That slows each run to about 20 min, but I'm not interested in speed. AFter 3 clears, warp out sell, repair (4 20 slot bags on mage), the lowbie kept some trash and useful equip/mats. And I think it's hard to beat the sfk courtyard for number of mobs and ease of aoe meltdown. Do the whole courtyard which is what 30 mobs? I can't do the same technique in SM too many hits on an arc/fire mage. I wasn't skinning, too much time/space, and some bad lag, initially. My lowbie mage is an ench, so every green is a blessing for mats. And it might take me 6 months to get to 70, not likely, but I'll get there. There's no time crisis in my eyes. Now, BFD I found was not as good for mob density, not to mention the near 3 min corpse run. New setup of shammies, hopefully i can beat any potential wipe, then res
Skuggomann
02-11-2008, 03:18 AM
Im glad to se this tread get atension :) for it its the best way to lvl XD
i hit 67 today btw :) 61-70 is hard :S
Stabface
02-11-2008, 04:44 AM
Hard, are you grinding or questing Skuggomann? I'm at L54 myself, will be in Outlands by end of the week... need to find a good Alliance quests leveling guide I suppose :)
ilikemages
02-15-2008, 10:16 PM
Im glad to se this tread get atension :) for it its the best way to lvl XD
i hit 67 today btw :) 61-70 is hard :S
48 and on is hard.
Ripper
02-15-2008, 10:22 PM
:)
iodine
02-16-2008, 03:41 PM
i got a 70 prot pally.. im trying to boost ZF right now and i cant get passed the healing totems, ive tried to have the lower levels take em but its just too much. do you guys have suggestions for lvl 42 boosting to 45?
Defsync
03-01-2008, 10:56 PM
Just wanted to add (installed an exp mod (XPRatePlus)) that AOE boosting with a mage and 1 alt in Death's Door in Blade's Edge will net your alt lev 60+ about 100k exp an hour
Toned
03-02-2008, 12:00 PM
Skuggo the spec I use on my mage when im power leveling is: 27 Fire 34 Frost. You should give it a try having blazing speed absolutely owns lol.
fender967
03-05-2008, 03:11 AM
Hey
I have been planning on trying this method as soon as my initial 3 chars make it to 70. I have a couple questions about the 40+ levels though. I've read that ZF is best from ~40-50.
How do you manage to do ZF with a mage with all the ranged/casters there? Do you use blizzard or just AE/CoC/Blast Wave?For 50+ ive heard doing something like LBRS with a 70 Warrior is best. This is confusing because I cant see how a warrior could kill things quickly enough at all. Cleave hits two targets, WW hits only 4 still. How are you pulling so much and what is the purpose when you can only hit 4?
Would a hunter work for 50+ in LBRS or eventually Ramparts? Also, do you think a hunter would work in ZF from ~43-50? Quick kills instead of AoE.Right now I am leveling three characters on a new server: Hunter, Druid, and Mage. They are 40 right now. After they hit 70 I will be boosting 3 Shaman. Basically, i'm trying to figure out what classes are capable of doing this 45+ and what the best way to go about this is.
Is there anything besides a Warrior that works for instance grinding 45+?
Jaws5
03-05-2008, 12:40 PM
depending on booster and class being bosted, I like SFK 12-23 you can almost pull the whole instance by having a 12 stand next to wall and argo all to the court yard. real fun
xtobbenx
03-08-2008, 08:03 PM
fender967 ('undefined'): I see your point. I'm around 35 atm with my toons and i'm power lvling them with my feral atm.. It works fine. High armor, 15k HP and healing on crit each 6 sec.. And ofc.. Swip in bear from is quite effective as an aoe. Hits 3 mobs for 600 each, each 1 sec.. and you have a white hit on 700-1500 each 2,5 sec.. But its preaty much the fast swiping that down the mobs..
I would think that atleast in LBRS which is quite big and long distances you would really want to pull alot and kill them close to your alt, but a warrior would do a weak job on keeping agro and aoe up on them for sure.. So i would say that a feral or a hunter as you say would must likely do a much faster job.
Oswyn
03-08-2008, 08:19 PM
Read this post last week and started boosting my 4x shammies and 1x pally with my 70 holy pally. I got from level 22 to 37 in 3 days (not playing time...didn't keep track of it unfortunately - prob around 6-7 hours maybe?).
The pally worked out great and with seal of wisdom, one mana stream totem, and heals from the shammie, I'd complete a 15-20 mob pull and have 100% health and atleast 75% mana remaining. While I may not be able to kill as quickly as a mage, I really limited any downtime. Also wearing plate helps!
Down side is that it is pretty boring. I think it was the 15th or so run of armory where I almost cleared the instance, but somehow fell asleep in between pulls. I woke up and found that a repop had killed my whole team!
So now the shammies are 37 and the prot pally is 34. The pally is a little behind because I concentrated on the shammies originally with the 70 pally. Then I bit the bullet and got a 6th account. Now I rotate the pally in the shammie team and is working quite nicely.
I'm going to try ZF at 35 as I'm sooo done with SM!
edit: Last 10 or so runs i stopped looting as it was taking me forever to loot and to deal with the loot (vendor, mail to bank alt, etc).
Ripper
03-09-2008, 12:30 AM
For those having problems in ZF with totems, make a macro for one of your casters. /target Healing or Magma totem, /shoot wand, etc. Then hotkey it somewhere handy. Worked pretty well for me.
mlwhitt
03-10-2008, 11:32 AM
The personal path that I have been following:
Leveled to 20 in BE starting area (great XP, honestly just as quick to plow your way thru than repeated RFC runs)
20-25 SFK
25-30 RFK
30-38 SM CATH/ARM
38-40 ULDA
40-45 ZF
I am using a Level 70 Frost Mage in blue and green gear. Nothing fancy at all. The only place I have had a problem was the Earthen and Golems in ULDA. The Earthen are immune to Frost Nova and the Golems have the ablity to completely lock down a caster even a level 70. I actually almost wiped one time due to this fact.
I have heard people say that ZF can be tricky for a mage but I didn't have any problems with the runs I have done in ZF. I had two Epic world drops in a single run that netted me 150 gold so I personally liked those ZF runs. That plus AOE = MAD XP in the Scarab area, zombie area and the stairs.
Right now I am running thru quest and intend on hitting Sunken Temple at 50. I am a bit concerned that ST onward might be a bit much for my Mage though.
Skuggomann
03-11-2008, 03:23 PM
Jubb, bought my first epic flying mount yesterday, only 3 to go XD (13'000g atm)
/target 5200g
/wave
/cry
...o jea this is how i role ;)
I've found stockades to be far better than SM for 20-25. On my mage I can do it in 4 pulls (middle, left, and 2 for the right because they knockdown.) About 6m for a run, ~3.5 runs per level. I've just been doing a few runs for 30-45m during lunch. Level 24 with 10h playtime.Agreed. Did the same thing on my pally the last couple of days. Too bad you can only do 5 runs before you have to wait an hour :( Still worth it imo.
ilikemages
03-31-2008, 01:13 AM
should i continue to elvel my mages? they are 59 atm... like for gold farming? is it easier than with a 4-5 shaman team?
thinus
03-31-2008, 02:07 AM
Any specific reason "1/4 epic flyer" is in the title?
Skuggomann
03-31-2008, 03:32 AM
Any specific reason "1/4 epic flyer" is in the title?
Jea it means i have one of four epic flying mounts :)
I have been planning on trying this method as soon as my initial 3 chars make it to 70. I have a couple questions about the 40+ levels though. I've read that ZF is best from ~40-50.
Jubb ZF is the place.
How do you manage to do ZF with a mage with all the ranged/casters there? Do you use blizzard or just AE/CoC/Blast Wave?
I just went in and wtf owned, pull normal pacs and just los them :) (i had no healing alts ant it was all ok)
Would a hunter work for 50+ in LBRS or eventually Ramparts?
No idea, i stopped boosting at lvl 50+ but i had my lvl 70 in the grp all the way to lvl 70.
Right now I am leveling three characters on a new server: Hunter, Druid, and Mage. They are 40 right now. After they hit 70 I will be boosting 3 Shaman. Basically, i'm trying to figure out what classes are capable of doing this 45+ and what the best way to go about this is.
Id go for mage, or pally.
Is there anything besides a Warrior that works for instance grinding 45+?
Well i used a mage in ZF to lvl 50 and then boosted quests, quest boosting is almost as fast.
sos for the l8 responce :(
Team Squishee
04-01-2008, 09:09 AM
Re: SFK
The minimum level to enter is now level 10
You will aggro the mobs to the right of the entrance if u enter at 15 or below - send yr main in first to clear the first 4 mobs.
There are some magic immune mobs in the instance so be careful (I have been boosting with my Bear so no probs there)
The fastest way to clear that i have found is to leave yr alts next to the 'cage' wall in front of the entrance and pull yr mobs back into range for exp gain.
Pull 1) Everything down to the jail - release the prisoner and get the courtyard open
Pull 2) Clear the courtyard (very easy)
Pull 3) Run through the kitchen area where the Butcher / Baron bosses are , up the stairs turn right and go back to the courtyard down the ramp - kill in the courtyard.
Pull 4) Back through the kitchen, up the stairs turn left pull everything out onto the Battlements and kill (the battlements are right above the point where u left yr alts)
Pull 5) Run through everything up to Fenrus (the wolf boss) , run back to the second battlements area and kill.
I stop at this point as the number of remaining mobs and the distance to run to pull them makes it not worthwhile
Your alts never need to leave the starting area
Takes me 12-13 mins so I am right on the time limit.
Olibri
04-16-2008, 07:48 PM
I guess I'll get in on this thread now.
So I finished Stockades last night and ran all the way to SM (which sucks pretty hard for alliance). I ran library once to get the key (trivial) and then went to Cath real quick before bed. It did not go well. I cleared the first hall, and then ran the pattern from the first page and while AOEing at the end they got loose. I didn't retry to CC, and got worked. I hit ice block to buy myself more time to think and then they ran over to 1-shot my alts. BTW, I'm specced the same as the frost spec mentioned on the first page (http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=of0qcoMZZbAMIcfxsbqz). I'll try again tonight to see if I do any better.
Suggestions welcome :).
Kyudo
04-16-2008, 08:11 PM
I guess I'll get in on this thread now.
So I finished Stockades last night and ran all the way to SM (which sucks pretty hard for alliance). I ran library once to get the key (trivial) and then went to Cath real quick before bed. It did not go well. I cleared the first hall, and then ran the pattern from the first page and while AOEing at the end they got loose. I didn't retry to CC, and got worked. I hit ice block to buy myself more time to think and then they ran over to 1-shot my alts. BTW, I'm specced the same as the frost spec mentioned on the first page (http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=of0qcoMZZbAMIcfxsbqz). I'll try again tonight to see if I do any better.
Suggestions welcome :).Your alts are too close. If they are far enough away, they won't get aggro when you iceblock. The max range for them to get XP is actually quite far, e.g. from the doorway at the end of the passage (start of SM cath), to the foot of the stairs leading up to the raised outdoor level (hope that makes sense).
Also if any of your alts are healers, the other option is to throw in a quick heal, although minimal at this level, it can still help, but they'll be guaranteed to aggro if you iceblock doing this ofc.
And on Ice Barrier, hit it 8 secs or so BEFORE you pull, this way the cooldown is up half way through the pull, so it stays up longer.
badashh
04-17-2008, 11:00 AM
In SM you really shouldn't ice block, hopefully you have frost nova and can use that to escape, blink. I also have some points in magic absorption, so every time you resist the low level spells you get back quite a bit of mana. Try to use LOS as well to get as many mobs together as possible.
Also for Cath, I always do the last boss. Once you clear the front area of the Cath itself, once you engage the boss, the mobs from the left and right will come to defend him, and it saves you the time of rounding them up to aoe.
Kyudo
04-17-2008, 11:43 AM
In SM you really shouldn't ice block, hopefully you have frost nova and can use that to escape, blink. I also have some points in magic absorption, so every time you resist the low level spells you get back quite a bit of mana. Try to use LOS as well to get as many mobs together as possible.
Also for Cath, I always do the last boss. Once you clear the front area of the Cath itself, once you engage the boss, the mobs from the left and right will come to defend him, and it saves you the time of rounding them up to aoe.This really depends on your gear. There is no way my mage (see link) can pull the whole of cath.... my pally can, but that's a different matter.
Skuggomann
04-17-2008, 11:45 AM
Jea i alwasy tried to pull off a:
Pull boss ---> iceblock -- > frost nova ---> blink ----> Blizzard
Olibri
04-18-2008, 02:36 PM
Thanks for the tips. I've improved quite a bit and am no longer dying. I'm also pulling the last boss, killing the final adds, then killing the boss.
The main mistake that I was making (other than panicking) was that I would frost nova, then cone of cold, then try to aoe. The problem that this created was the the cone of cold would break half the mobs from the trap. Once I switched to blizzard and then cone of cold everything got infinitely easier. At this point I just need to grind out the levels in there so that I can move on to the next instance.
Greythan
05-07-2008, 07:27 PM
I've started boosting four of my five man team with my main (a level 70 warlock, demonology specced).
At least in Ragefire, its working very very well. My pulls are based on the maps on the first page (generally) and I pull with the felguard having him attack a mob and move on, finally going "passive" and following me back to the party. Once there I have the pet stay in place, back up and cast a single seed of corruption. A few seconds later, mobs are all dead. (I usually get myself into melee range as the dot effect of the seed can pull the mob off the mass.)
I'm curious to see how well the felguard will hold up in SM with this strategy. Even in Ragefire if I let the mobs beat on the felguard enough, he gets beat down. May switch to voidwalker.
Simulacra
05-10-2008, 07:43 PM
I've started boosting four of my five man team with my main (a level 70 warlock, demonology specced).
At least in Ragefire, its working very very well. My pulls are based on the maps on the first page (generally) and I pull with the felguard having him attack a mob and move on, finally going "passive" and following me back to the party. Once there I have the pet stay in place, back up and cast a single seed of corruption. A few seconds later, mobs are all dead. (I usually get myself into melee range as the dot effect of the seed can pull the mob off the mass.)
I'm curious to see how well the felguard will hold up in SM with this strategy. Even in Ragefire if I let the mobs beat on the felguard enough, he gets beat down. May switch to voidwalker.I boosted my team with a 70 afflication lock in SM, I SoC'd everything and it worked really well. I was boosting a Pally/Mages/Priest so I got all the nice buffs from them for the Lock and Voidie, Blessing of Kings FTW :) For the bosses I just used the Voidie and DOTs no problems and after a few runs my team was really well geared. I stopped boosting at 42 and quested from then on. The team is now 62,62,62,62,61 and hitting Ramparts.
Skuggomann
05-10-2008, 08:21 PM
Lol im don boosting my seccond team of 4x Shaman to lvl 50 XD
Greythan
05-12-2008, 04:21 PM
I boosted my team with a 70 afflication lock in SM, I SoC'd everything and it worked really well. I was boosting a Pally/Mages/Priest so I got all the nice buffs from them for the Lock and Voidie, Blessing of Kings FTW :) For the bosses I just used the Voidie and DOTs no problems and after a few runs my team was really well geared. I stopped boosting at 42 and quested from then on. The team is now 62,62,62,62,61 and hitting Ramparts. Can you give me a bit more on your tactics? How many seeds did you need to plant? My lock is pvp geared so only runs about 700 +spdam and is Demonology specced. Just trying to get a sense of things before my team hits 20. (mid teens now) Did you alternate your five also? I'm now thinking I may just level four of my team and use my lock as the fifth when they get higher.
Meathead
07-22-2008, 08:42 AM
Ok Im up to ZF now with my guys.....Just wondering is there a AOE Guide for a mage for Pulling Packs of 20+ Mobs.
badashh
07-22-2008, 09:42 AM
ZF is a bad place to try to aoe pull, there are too many ranged and the totems are kind of annoying too. ST I've found is much better, you just have to look out for the non elite lil imps resetting and going after your boosters. I usually round up a bunch of elites, ice block, frost nova, blink, blizzard(improved blizzard is magical). I can do about 4 groups if dragons in ST easily. It also helps a ton to have ice barrier if your mage is under geared.
Meathead
07-22-2008, 10:05 AM
Cool thanks for telling me hehe just wipped due to the facted i got turned in to a frog! lol Just wondering could you think you could give me some tips on pulling in ST.....As in what floors to pull and mobs Ive never done it ....And yea my mage is 5/5 Veng I am arcane/frost got Imp Blizzard aswell :D
badashh
07-22-2008, 10:23 AM
If you haven't been there before it can be kind of a maze. There is a top level that has 6 mini bosses on it that have to all be killed to open up a room, then that room has to be cleared to kill the end boss. If you just care about exp you might not go after the last boss, but he does have some good drops.
The best way to clear the top is to just spam AE rank 1, until you get to a mini boss, you will do this 6 times, and you mainly do it to unlock the big room that is great for aoe grinding. This is my main trick for aoe grinding, that way I can keep my alts on follow and if they aggro anything they will just get caught up in the aoe.
Once all 6 mini bosses are down, you jump down and start in on the dragons. First pull leave your alts up on the platform. Then round up 3 groups, ice block, frost nova, blizzard. bring your alts down and repeat for the other 8-10 groups. There is one group of dragons down a hallway, that only becomes an issue if you go to the final boss. This right here is probably your fastest exp grind. you could just run in do this and reset. You can probably do 5 groups at a time, but I would start with 3 to get your technique down, and to see how hard they hit.
Once all the dragon groups are down, there is a big room of undead with a boss at the end of the room. Same thing, Block, nova, blink, blizz. These guys hit kinda hard, but you should be find with your pvp gear. You can do this in 2 pulls comfortably, maybe one. Ton of exp here. Don't try to get the boss with your big pull, he can do some annoying things(don't remember what).
From here you will have some big dragons flying around you can take out and the final boss. If you see a hallway with windserpents down them skip those hallways you need a quest to unlock that boss.
Meathead
07-22-2008, 10:26 AM
Cool thanks alot about to start it now :D I have been here before but not aoe'ed it on my mage :D Wish me luck :D
badashh
07-22-2008, 10:29 AM
GL, also make sure your alts are close enough to get exp, I had some issue with that because the place is so big. And one talent that I love is magic absorption, I resist most spells and never go oom on these big pulls because the casters are feeding me mana. Let us know how it goes.
Cool thanks for telling me hehe just wipped due to the facted i got turned in to a frog!
WELCOME TO ZF!
Having done both Mage aoe and Warlock SoC aoe for boosting. I have to say I prefer Mage... by far. Both are T6 geared, but SoC aoe is just annoying.
Pre 2.3... boosted my priest 1-60 in 3 days 9 hours played. This was about a month after TBC release, so mage was wearing lvl 70 instance blues.
Instances went like this (give or take a couple levels):
RFC 8-16
SFK 16- 24
RFK 24-27
SM 28-40
ZF 40-47
BRD 47-54
Strat Live 54-58
Hellfire Quests 58-60
I'd love to try it as a paladin! Hopefully soon!
Meathead
07-23-2008, 02:46 AM
I find ZF very very annoying due to the fact i know i can pull the instance in atleast 4/5 pulls but what sucks is that the hex is random....same thing in ST they hex aswell :( pulling small mobs makes me feel weak due to the fact my gear is great and i have 4 resto shammys healing me were's our resist ! lol
P.S How about Uldaman ('http://www.mrfixitonline.com/albums/index.php?album=wow_hordelvl&image=45-Uldaman.jpg') Is it any good for a mage.
Skuggomann
07-23-2008, 03:39 AM
Just use iceblock wen hex comes! :) or pvp trinket?
Meathead
07-23-2008, 03:50 AM
Got myself a new technic go respec arcane/fire and AOE Blast and just spam heal on myself while my grounding totems are down :D By the time i get below 70% health they are dead.
griffin01
08-01-2008, 02:23 AM
I'll add my input on this.
I used a pally for boosting. Aftre SM at 45 I went to strat and entered dead side. I will break down my pulls here.
I numbered each group within the pull.
as a pally make sure you are specced with blessing of sanctuary... my pally is holy pally with really deacent pvp gear (10k health and mana with 800 spell dmg), use your holy fire spell to pull. make sure to watch your cooldowns as this can get you killed if you dont pay attention.
buffs needed:
blessing of sanctuary
divine shield
righteous fury (spec into righteous fury for dmg reduction)
concecration aura
blessing of protection
first pull, 1 to 5, pretty basic and use your divine shield when you have all 5 groups, consecrate, aoe holy wrath (i think thats what its called), and consecrate again... this should make it easy enough to kill all non elites by the time divine shield runs out. than the basic heal and consecrate combo till they die. You use divine shield first so you have it for the next big important pull.
second pull, 1 to 5, make sure you grab the big green fat guy on the way through. on group 5 there should be a corner behind them, this is where you want to be. It helps prevent kick backs from impacting your heals too much. once you are in your corner, you will BoP yourself and once again concecrate, holy wrath, and heal... BoP doesnt give as much time and wont draw in the casters, so you want to make sure you are at full health before it runs out. side note, do not forget to refresh your blessing of sanctuary when you use your BoP.
third pull you want to time it so the green fat guy pats away from you before you pull. the objective is to make sure he does not join the group on this pull. by this time the divine shield cooldown will be ready, so once you make your pull, basically where the 5th group is is where you will begin killing... concecrate, divine shield, holy wrath consecrate, heal. than more consecrate and heal till they are dead.
fourth pull you want to skip the group with the postman... this group is behind first group you are going to pull. skipping for one reason, the postman does snap kick and if you end up pulling all 5 groups here, you will die. anyhow, just to the left of the 4th group is another corner you will want to stick yourself in to ensure you are not being kicked back a massive distance while you are healing. also, use BoP for this one.
fifth pull once again let the green fatty pat away before pulling because he isnt included. this pull your divine shield should once again be ready so pull away, and divine shield... quick kills.
Once you find all the nooks and crannies in this system, you will get it down to a science... the only buggers here are the eye of naxx's that appear and summon gargoyles if you dont kill them in time. They will appear sometimes during a pull, so i find it best sometimes to wait for them to appear and kill them. or you may just get fortunate enough to have them included in your pulls.
So give that a try, and i hope it works out for you as good as it did for me. I took my 3 shammies in there at 45 and got them to 55... in about 4 n a half hours to 5 hours i got them from 51 to 55... so there was some deacent xp... also with a few setbacks, so if you get it down to avoid those setbacks... good to go.
good luck.
http://www.seraphimorder.net/stratpulls.jpg
Thanks for this howto Griffin : )
Perrigrin
08-03-2008, 04:57 AM
I'll add my input on this.
I used a pally for boosting. Aftre SM at 45 I went to strat and entered dead side. I will break down my pulls here.
I numbered each group within the pull.
as a pally make sure you are specced with blessing of sanctuary... my pally is holy pally with really deacent pvp gear (10k health and mana with 800 spell dmg), use your holy fire spell to pull. make sure to watch your cooldowns as this can get you killed if you dont pay attention.
buffs needed:
blessing of sanctuary
divine shield
righteous fury (spec into righteous fury for dmg reduction)
concecration aura
blessing of protection
first pull, 1 to 5, pretty basic and use your divine shield when you have all 5 groups, consecrate, aoe holy wrath (i think thats what its called), and consecrate again... this should make it easy enough to kill all non elites by the time divine shield runs out. than the basic heal and consecrate combo till they die. You use divine shield first so you have it for the next big important pull.
second pull, 1 to 5, make sure you grab the big green fat guy on the way through. on group 5 there should be a corner behind them, this is where you want to be. It helps prevent kick backs from impacting your heals too much. once you are in your corner, you will BoP yourself and once again concecrate, holy wrath, and heal... BoP doesnt give as much time and wont draw in the casters, so you want to make sure you are at full health before it runs out. side note, do not forget to refresh your blessing of sanctuary when you use your BoP.
third pull you want to time it so the green fat guy pats away from you before you pull. the objective is to make sure he does not join the group on this pull. by this time the divine shield cooldown will be ready, so once you make your pull, basically where the 5th group is is where you will begin killing... concecrate, divine shield, holy wrath consecrate, heal. than more consecrate and heal till they are dead.
fourth pull you want to skip the group with the postman... this group is behind first group you are going to pull. skipping for one reason, the postman does snap kick and if you end up pulling all 5 groups here, you will die. anyhow, just to the left of the 4th group is another corner you will want to stick yourself in to ensure you are not being kicked back a massive distance while you are healing. also, use BoP for this one.
fifth pull once again let the green fatty pat away before pulling because he isnt included. this pull your divine shield should once again be ready so pull away, and divine shield... quick kills.
Once you find all the nooks and crannies in this system, you will get it down to a science... the only buggers here are the eye of naxx's that appear and summon gargoyles if you dont kill them in time. They will appear sometimes during a pull, so i find it best sometimes to wait for them to appear and kill them. or you may just get fortunate enough to have them included in your pulls.
So give that a try, and i hope it works out for you as good as it did for me. I took my 3 shammies in there at 45 and got them to 55... in about 4 n a half hours to 5 hours i got them from 51 to 55... so there was some deacent xp... also with a few setbacks, so if you get it down to avoid those setbacks... good to go.
good luck.
http://www.seraphimorder.net/stratpulls.jpgThanks for the info - Can you please post your spec on the pally? I find it hard to get heals of with my prot specced pally and I end up having to have my shamans heal me on the pulls - which makes it tough - and can be deadly if there are casters outside of conc.
Also - Could you indicate roughly where you place the characters beeing bosted for each pull? And where is the fight spot? Always at number 5?
Thanks!
Carnage
08-03-2008, 05:15 AM
I find it hard to aoe boost on my mage in BRD, I try to pull too many and they end up netting me before i can get them to my alts. My mage is full tier 6 with around 1300 spelldmg, spec'd frost - perhaps i should wear some pvp gear for the resilence.
Wish i had a pally :(
Meathead
08-03-2008, 06:01 AM
yea resilence helps alot i got a mage full veng/brut with only 900SD so easy i get healed by my alts aswell. aswell go to Scholo not brd scholo alot better.
puppychow
08-03-2008, 09:51 AM
Perrigin said his pally is holy with 800 spell damage, which is pretty high (I'm around 600 with mediocore holy gear). If you don't have 100% anti-pushback with conc aura and the talents in holy (20 deep I think?) you can't pull more than 1-2 packs. I'm 40 holy 21 prot just to grind out my alts, and found it easiest just to pull 2-3 packs and avoid the big green guys (too much hp to bother) it takes me about 15 mins to clear 1-5 (pulling towards entrance, I leave alts at zone in point) plus the first boss on top right (shard), I reset and repeat. Get only 25-30k xp/hour compared to Perrigrins 50k hour, but it works out better for me. Gonna try Baron skellies today and see if thats better XP.
I actually wish an Eye would spawn on me and spawn infinite gargoyles, but haven't had any so far. I'm sure going to Baron it will.
Narezza
08-03-2008, 03:08 PM
I find it hard to aoe boost on my mage in BRD, I try to pull too many and they end up netting me before i can get them to my alts. My mage is full tier 6 with around 1300 spelldmg, spec'd frost - perhaps i should wear some pvp gear for the resilence.
Wish i had a pally :(I can clear BRD (well, except for Bael'Gar) with my T4 fire mage and about 1k spell damage. Of course, it does take about 3 hours :S
Carnage
08-03-2008, 06:24 PM
I can clear BRD (well, except for Bael'Gar) with my T4 fire mage and about 1k spell damage. Of course, it does take about 3 hours Oh, i can do that with ease - but that isnt exactly what i would call powerleveling ;) I will try again tomorrow with some pvp gear on, i like to pull mass amounts of mobs :P
badashh
08-04-2008, 12:38 PM
Anyone ever try farming the room in BRD with all the roaming mobs? I know it's far in there, but the respawn rate is quick right? hmmmmmm
The BRD "quick spawners" in the lyceum (I assume this is what you're talkin' about) don't give full XP. I tried it a couple of weeks back. Not worth the effort and time. I just do the entire Ring of Law area with my shammies (3x - to catch them up to my other sham and pally's level) and 70 mage (mediocre gear) in about 25 minutes killing an average of 5 packs a pull. My shamans healed my mage.
Edit: added lyceum.
griffin01
08-05-2008, 03:31 AM
Thanks for the info - Can you please post your spec on the pally? I find it hard to get heals of with my prot specced pally and I end up having to have my shamans heal me on the pulls - which makes it tough - and can be deadly if there are casters outside of conc.
Also - Could you indicate roughly where you place the characters beeing bosted for each pull? And where is the fight spot? Always at number 5?
Thanks!Here is my spec:
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/paladin/talents.html?tal=055031025001305311500532113002030 1000000000000000000000000000000
and as far as positioning goes... just make sure they are in range for xp, and far enough away that they wont pull aggro... also out of range so when you bubble, the mobs dont see them, otherwise some smart-arse mob will go running off and kill your slaves.
Perrigrin
08-05-2008, 05:05 AM
Thanks for the info - Can you please post your spec on the pally? I find it hard to get heals of with my prot specced pally and I end up having to have my shamans heal me on the pulls - which makes it tough - and can be deadly if there are casters outside of conc.
Also - Could you indicate roughly where you place the characters beeing bosted for each pull? And where is the fight spot? Always at number 5?
Thanks!Here is my spec:
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/paladin/talents.html?tal=055031025001305311500532113002030 1000000000000000000000000000000
and as far as positioning goes... just make sure they are in range for xp, and far enough away that they wont pull aggro... also out of range so when you bubble, the mobs dont see them, otherwise some smart-arse mob will go running off and kill your slaves.Thanks!
And yeah, I thought aggro when bubbling was limited to if they had healed or DPSed, so happily bubbled just a few feet away - Boom, dead shammies :P
Fuzzyboy
08-08-2008, 06:52 PM
Just wanted to add my own experience with mage-boosting (and thanks for the article Skuggo). A couple of things which are nice to know: Boosting with 4 lowbies is faster than boosting with just one. Your spec doesn't matter much in RFC/DM, but I tried a few different ones in SM before I got it right. I ended up with:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=of0EcM00xZZbhMIsfbsbq
I also tried a Blazing Speed spec (0/27/34) but found I often got close to running OOM due to lack of Magic Absorption. I also tried deep arcane (40/0/21), which worked well, but it's soo much easier with Ice Barrier. Ice Barrier and Magic Absorption are definitely key talents imo.
I used a strategy which is a bit different from Skuggos, but very viable. I'd do the same pulls, but instead of nova/coc/ae/ae etc., I'd use the good old Dire Maul technique. For those mages who didn't get to level on the lashers in there, its basicly just nova/run or blink/back up while casting shield/blizzard/blizzard/blizzard (need Permafrost and imp blizzard and no points in frost bite for this to work). I don't mind posting a video if anyone is interested (shoot me a PM if so). Also, leave a few casters (2-3) alive after you pull a bunch of mobs, they'll be chasing you around and casting - you'll be resisting and gain mana from magic absorption. This way you'll be full mana all the time - usually I can do the whole cath/armory without drinking at all. Cathedral takes 8-9 mins, armory 5-6 mins. At 39 my group was getting 70k/hr and I reached lvl 40 with 13-14 hours played. This was while boosting a friend, so my alts were on follow on him and I didn't have to worry about looting or positioning my alts - otherwise it would have taken longer.
Anyway, thanks again Skuggo for a good guide and good research.
Smaug
08-24-2008, 06:50 PM
Hi,
I have a 33 pally atm, and my buddy has a 70 mage (T5 mostly, 1000+ spell dmg), I ran SFK and RFK using him while the pally was /following.
Now I would like to try SM and maybe ZF but because he's raiding I can't respec him to frost or arcane, he's 2/48/11 (2 in arcrane subtetly in arcane and icy veins and some imp frostbolt and stuff in frost talents), so, what is the best way I should pull and kill the mobs? What do you think?
Skuggomann
08-25-2008, 01:49 AM
Hi,
I have a 33 pally atm, and my buddy has a 70 mage (T5 mostly, 1000+ spell dmg), I ran SFK and RFK using him while the pally was /following.
Now I would like to try SM and maybe ZF but because he's raiding I can't respec him to frost or arcane, he's 2/48/11 (2 in arcrane subtetly in arcane and icy veins and some imp frostbolt and stuff in frost talents), so, what is the best way I should pull and kill the mobs? What do you think?
Just specc im frost and then respecc back for raids, its next to hopless to boost w/ fire.
Smaug
08-25-2008, 04:15 AM
Hi,
I have a 33 pally atm, and my buddy has a 70 mage (T5 mostly, 1000+ spell dmg), I ran SFK and RFK using him while the pally was /following.
Now I would like to try SM and maybe ZF but because he's raiding I can't respec him to frost or arcane, he's 2/48/11 (2 in arcrane subtetly in arcane and icy veins and some imp frostbolt and stuff in frost talents), so, what is the best way I should pull and kill the mobs? What do you think?
Just specc im frost and then respecc back for raids, its next to hopless to boost w/ fire.Well,
if I want to respec him I have to pay the fee for it myself ... but I think it's worth it, I tried to do SM armory and cath last night and it was hopeless, armory was quite ok, I couldn't afford bigger pulls though. However cath totally sucked, I pulled half of what you pull and I was near death, the cathedral itself was horrible, when I tried to pull it at once, then ice block and frost nova I got instagibbed :D
Naylix
08-25-2008, 08:21 AM
Well,
if I want to respec him I have to pay the fee for it myself ... but I think it's worth it, I tried to do SM armory and cath last night and it was hopeless, armory was quite ok, I couldn't afford bigger pulls though. However cath totally sucked, I pulled half of what you pull and I was near death, the cathedral itself was horrible, when I tried to pull it at once, then ice block and frost nova I got instagibbed
Hi,
I have a 33 pally atm, and my buddy has a 70 mage (T5 mostly, 1000+ spell dmg), I ran SFK and RFK using him while the pally was /following.
I might be reading you wrong, and if I do, I apologize. But the way I understood your post, you are using your buddys lvl 70 mage, to boost your own char on /follow.
It might seem like a good deal, to borrow someone elses account and boost. But accountsharing is against the ToS, and thus you should be aware you're jeopardizing both your own account and his account. It might end in a ban.
For instance, if you run both accounts on the same computer at the same time - then they will most likely be flagged automatically for investigation. Any PC has a unique ID-tag that is very easy to read (basicly you just ask for it) and if 2 accounts are played at the same time with the same ID - well, you do the math.
I encourage you to play your own accounts only, and I ofcourse hope you wont get into trouble.
And again, if I misread your posts, I sincerely apologize.
/Mwu
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