4 or 5 rogues?

[David]

I`m currently leveling my next team. Sadly my ret team was more fun leveling then beeing 80 and since I still run RAF I`m doing 4 rogues now. The idea is to run bg/arena at 80 so I`m wondering what would be best. 4 or 5 rogues? I don`t think that I would win much matches in the arena without the healer.

Maybe even a resto druid + 4 rogues but that just seems to much.

I know that there are some rogue boxers out there and people who have tested them so I ask, how many do I need?:rolleyes:

[Solon]

I have a 5 rogue team around lvl 40. PvE and PvP I wish I had a healer. I would definitely go for a druid for stealth synergy. My 2 cents. Best possible scenario, you have a friend that will heal for you in Arena, too much to keep watch on there IMO. (I never tried Arena with my rogues.)

[SideWays]

Yea I have 4 lvl 73 Rogues atm and I would definitely go with a druid healer.. 1 or 2 heals can make the difference :)

Oh and for arena you will need a healer obviously..

[David]

For arena I would do a stealth healer druid played by a different person. Don`t think there is another way.

But for BG leveling I thought a resto druid would kick ass. Just wait in stealth untill needed or even help out with the burst in cat mode.
When capping towers and such or even after fights it would be a charm to have heals. Since you won`t get out of combat untill those damn bowguys are deadmeat.

[Mosg2]

David... Don't give up on the Rets man :)

I have exactly *one* upgrade for each of my guys now and I'll be getting that in the next ~6 hours. I can tell you that upgrading made ALL the difference man. All of it. Now that they're at 25k health with 700 res they are super durable and the initial burst with Hand Rockets and Darkmoon Card: Death is *insane*.

[David]

Your taking down relentless disp priests?:D

Well I din`t really quit them yet. More like on hold. Waiting for the new 2hander. Running around with heirblooms isn`t working out and compaired to the new 2hander those of the argent tournament are sucky as well. Hopefully the new 2hander isn`t to much trouble to get.

[Ualaa]

I would level 5x Rogues, as a 5-boxer, over going with 4x Rogues.

You can "solo" in battlegrounds, with 5 toons for increased kill power.

If you have a higher druid already, then maybe 4x on other accounts.
Alternatively, level 4x rogue and 1x druid.
That way you have some heals and rez, to keep the team together.

I would arena as 4x rogues.
And get a friend to play their own healer.

[Mosg2]

Yeah, for your fifth leveling I would take a Druid. Same for BG's. Arenas of couse I'd get a separate healer.

[Shodokan]

Is 4 rogues really worth it with the FOK nerf that happened?
I mean... imo getting 4 rogues to work well with any sort of mut spec or whatever would be incredibly hard and require much skill.

[Iceorbz]

Is 4 rogues really worth it with the FOK nerf that happened?
I mean... imo getting 4 rogues to work well with any sort of mut spec or whatever would be incredibly hard and require much skill.

Playing 4 of the same any class is not hard.

[David]

I went with 5 rogues. Adding a healer seems like a LOT of extra work and keybinds + it`s hard to keep control on him because sometimes you want to him to stay in stealth and so and that takes some extra work. Going out of range and so.

My 5 rogues are currently only in lvl1 gear with 2 heirbloom weapons at 60 in the outlands but they die a lot without the gear haha.

[Ualaa]

FoK was a gimmick against all/mostly caster compositions.
It is still an ok method to spread your poisons across a group.

You have the option of Combat for Killing Spree + Blade Flurry, which should destroy 1-2 toons in close proximity.

Mutilate/Preparation is probably a better build; you don't need to be behind them.
With Cold Blood, that's 8 automatic critical hits on one target.
And four combo points per rogue.

You apply Crippling, Deadly or Instant, Mind Numbling and Wound Poison to anyone you attack.

Cloak + Vanish, will let you reacquire stealth some of the time.
Dismantle destroys melee opposition, and you'll have this on round robin.
Blind is a very strong CC, provided your allies don't break it.
Between Kick and Kidney Shot, casters will hate you; possibly the BE silence too.

Definitely a lot of toys and burst.

[David]

If you run with a druid healer in arena, you open with a sap, the burst one down(should be possible), then move to kill a second or vanish and reset your fight. Then repeat and your druid joins the fight with a cylone and needed heals.
After that you still have cloak of noobs and vanish to survive some inc damage. You will also have 4 blinds which you could target to arena frames.

I think once you master the rogue`s they can be very strong. Bad part of a paladin team seems that they need to rush in, every team knows what will happen. Rogues seem to offer more options to start and do a fight. Bad part is that they don`t have own heals and can die faster.

By just looking at the skills it looks like it has arena potentional, the future will show if they have.

[Mokoi]

i think the gates going up and no targets on gladius is a dead goveaway of what's going to happen too, you will get people sittin in aoe forcing you to CoS before you fight or trying to get lucky with consecrate ticks.

But, it also means you may get people spreading out anticipating rogue aoe making them more vulnerable to a single burst attack away from healers a bit.

[shaeman]

The more i think of this group the more i like it.
In arena some classes will pull all (or most of ) the rogues out of stealth at the same time (If they even get a glimpse of one). Mainly other rogues with FoK or a warlocks shadowfury, but that's probably going to be rare enough to not worry too much about it.

[Crel]

These rogue team threads need to STOP!
Its making me want to raf up some more alts, cant you see I have enough! I have barley enough time for my main team, now my eyes twitching cause I don't have rogues.:mad:

[shaeman]

Don't fight it - give in now. I've bought two new raf accounts and those rogues are gonna be getting RAFed up, starting tonight (I already have 2 at 62)

Oh - and my 4 warlock 1 priest team will be next. And after that.........

[Ualaa]

Will be doing 4 warlocks and a priest.
Have them made already, and guilded.
In the process of transfering gold to them (opposite faction).

I'm thinking of going 4x rogues, with Worgren in cataclysm.
And am trying to hold off until then.
But the temptation is definitely there, to level them now.

[David]

I have those 5 rogues and a druid at 60 but just powerleveled me 4 mages as well, those are good fun as well rofl. Luckily I have RAF so I`m kinda on a boost mania.

[heyaz]

make like 36 rogues
and just fok in av all day