just can't stop hackers

[Kedash00]

So i have a few RL friends and my brother that play also and i being a boxer have my own guild, and i let my friends in the guild and make them officers so they can use the bank and get stuff i make, or borrow gold or whatever.

On my accounts i have a authenticator of corse, but apparently my brother doesn't cause he calls me up and says "get online asap and kick me outta the guild i got hacked"

So i log on and sure enough, they took everything, thousands and thousands of gold and items stored up for my next 5 man team, epics, blues, gems, glyphs, gold, just everything they would need pretty much to jump into heroics as soon as they hit 80.

But he put in a ticket and i did too to get the bank restored, but i was wondering if anyone knows how long it's gonna take to restore everything and if they even do restore guild banks since it's not really tied to a single account.

Thanks all, i'll post what happens

[Fursphere]

Approx. 3 days.

Its happened to my guild twice.

[Kedash00]

do they restore guild banks?

[Drak41]

they did when my account was hacked but can't remember if they gave the stuff back to my toon or put it straight in the Guild bank

[moosejaw]

They mail it all back to you. I was still missing a few things but it wasn't important. My new rule is no bank access unless you have the authenticator. I was on a wow vacation when the bank got jacked. Came back just to put in the ticket to have it restored.

[jettzypher]

whats been said is truth. 2-3 days, and it gets mailed back to the guild master.

i hated the process cause im ocd and had everything in the bank in a very specific manner. took me quite awhile to get it back in place.

[sassinak]

took me almost a year to get an account that was hacked back... i guess it depends on the circumstances involved.

[Caspian]

We had a guy hacked 2 weeks ago. His hacker was able to pull more stuff out of the gbank then he was supposed to. Blizz says they are aware of it.

Just to let you know
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=20677677047&postId=209518319255&sid=1#0

[Naysayer]

i've never been hacked.






lol

[daviddoran]

It's so dumb that people have resorted to hacking rather than farming to sell gold... we have only the userbase to blame... I mean, if nobody bought gold, there would be no value in stealing it. But thats never gonna stop, so, oh well.

Our guild had someone trying to steal from our gbank, he made multiple characters that had similar names to mine, with bank at the end, and were attempting to get people to invite into the guild, claiming they were me (using my real name, saying it was my bank toon) WHILE I was logged in, so its not like they used my accounts. People selling gold are getting desperate. Gold is easier than ever to get, theres a lot of competition from many gold sellers, and the prices are very low, and blizzard has hopefully been working on detecting farming bots, etc. Maybe someday it wont be so big of a problem. Maybe.

[Seldum]

I get so paranoid when I read stuff like this. A good thing though, is I got an Authenticator for my accounts.

Its a real shame its "worth" it for the hackers. I hope you get all the stuff back.

[Fuzzyboy]

I hope to see a re-evaluation of the gold- and trading system in future MMO's. A lot of the gold-sinks could easily be replaced by quest chains (i.e. epic flyers, giant bags, dalaran rings). If the gold-system was made redundant in the end-game (different ways to obtain gems, enchants, potions etc.), that would really solve a lot of the problems involved. Of course it would also take away flavor from the game, so in the end I suppose it's a matter of two ills.

[boxblizzard]

i change my password if i ever get any sign of something not right, as char logging out suddenly i would just change it regardless.

ive got several accounts and ive been safe.

[zenga]

It's so dumb that people have resorted to hacking rather than farming to sell gold... we have only the userbase to blame... I mean, if nobody bought gold, there would be no value in stealing it. But thats never gonna stop, so, oh well.

Then only people that want an advantage ingame would steal it .... But it's not only the goldbuyers that can be blamed. The same goes for a lot of *dumb* computer users as well, who are either careless with their passwords or who have little to no security on their system. A few days ago my neighbour signed up for WoW ... he holds a senior financial position in a big company, works often from home. His wife does about the same. What I discovered there stunned me, but unfortunately he is no exception: wifi is unencrypted, he has 1 new laptop with no virus/firewall and 1 desktop running millennium with an outdated norton 2001 or so. Best of all: he does a lot of online purchases and all his banking from that comp ...

If blizzard only wanted to release a native linux version of WoW ... They could cut a deal with a hardware vendor and sell a tailor made laptop with WoW preinstalled, as a secure solution.

[Kedash00]

i talked to a GM and she (im assuming it was a woman, had a girl character's name) said she would turn everything including my brother's ticket into their investigation department, so hopefully it will get restored, i'm gonna rank him down in the guild so he dosen't have access to do anything but i dunno if i should do it now or wait till the ticket is resolved, just so they can see what he had accss too at the time of the hack.

good thing my second team dosen't need anything at the moment, i would be pissed otherwise, i'l update when it get resolved either way though

[suicidesspyder]

Yea thats why i have my own guild bank and never let anyone in it. I mean if someone like rl friend wants to run with me thats fine if they want to be in my guild i will keep them in there but they have no access to do anything. Even my alts i keep them all lowbies with no access. I just mail my gleader all the stuff and i put it in and take it out that way.

I know your own accounts. Hey you never know someone could hack one but not the others. Oh and yes i know it sounds assanine but i have 5 different pws atm until i get the authenticater. But due to black friday wow ads putting it off some more lol. More accounts being ready for cataclysm.

[Ualaa]

Blizzard goes after the sellers of gold.
They do not seem to go after the buyers.

Two of my real life friends, out of seven or eight of us that still play wow, regularly purchase gold from a site. They have never received a suspension or such, or even a warning. One of the two, was dropping $100 a check for over a year, you would think Blizzard would be aware of the gold transaction.

It is just like with the police.
If they solely prosecute the prostitutes, that is one approach.
But if they go after the "John" as well, that changes things a bit.

I bet if either of my friends (or other gold buyers in general) received an email letting them know the gold they had purchased was confiscated and that their accounts were suspended for 30 days for buying gold. And that next time they bought gold Blizzard would permanently ban the accounts... it might put a dampener on the whole thing.

[jettzypher]

im sure they do go after buyers, but not many. i think most people are smart enough to know that if they buy it, to do so in smaller amounts. that way, it doesnt raise such a big flag when it gets traded. also, itd be more work on blizzards behalf to keep track of all transactions between players and where the gold comes from, etc.

[Catamer]

i've never been hacked either but for the most part nothing is placed in our guild bank that isn't free for anyone in the guild to take. I only use it to transfer an item to a guild mate, I transfer between my own accounts directly without even using the bank. essentially, our guild bank only has junk in it and less than 1k gold.

if we had our guild bank hacked we might not even know it until the hacked person spoke up.
make your dead beat brother get an authenticator

[Jar]

My priest account was hacked but, they lvled it from 70-78, and left 3k gold on the account but stripped and deleted 2 other charactors (lowbies), I got an e-mail from blizz saying my account was suspended/frozen because of "ingame spamming obsenitites".. WTF?.. I got it back after 3 days and bought a authenticator..

Thx whoever lvl'd my priest lol

[Kedash00]

omfg! my brother got hacked again! yesterday night, wtf! i told him to reformat but did he listen? no he didn't, so they took all his gold he had earned and spent all his honor but didn't touch the guild bank.

I was talking to him on the phone and following his character around org telling him what he was doing, it was kinda wierd lol.

[Multibocks]

Blizzard goes after the sellers of gold.
They do not seem to go after the buyers.

Two of my real life friends, out of seven or eight of us that still play wow, regularly purchase gold from a site. They have never received a suspension or such, or even a warning. One of the two, was dropping $100 a check for over a year, you would think Blizzard would be aware of the gold transaction.

It is just like with the police.
If they solely prosecute the prostitutes, that is one approach.
But if they go after the "John" as well, that changes things a bit.

I bet if either of my friends (or other gold buyers in general) received an email letting them know the gold they had purchased was confiscated and that their accounts were suspended for 30 days for buying gold. And that next time they bought gold Blizzard would permanently ban the accounts... it might put a dampener on the whole thing.

I often wonder if blizzard is involved in these transactions. They make $15 per account a month in subscription fees and they could easily surpass this "taxing" goldsellers. Obviously it would have to be only a select few in the company that knew the details or it would just blow up in their face.

[Kedash00]

i've always wondered if bliz was behind selling gold of some sort, if i were them i wouldn't risk it as they are making...what? 150 million+ alone on subscriptions per month, it would piss alot of people off if they were to get caught, and that may be the actual wow killer lol.

[Kedash00]

k update, got all the stuff back yesterday, still haven't let my brother back into the guild, i think i may start a real guild he can join since i 10 box now and just keep all my valuables in my bank.
Anyways everythign was restored, using in game tickets, no phone calls were made, did take a week or so.

[Ualaa]

I think you should create a new rank in your guild.

Give them the option to repair, up to whatever limit.
But no option to withdraw gold from the bank.
Let them view the tabs you want.
But have secure tabs which the new rank cannot access.

When your friends/brother upgrade to authenticators, promote them to the rank that can do whatever.
But as long as their accounts are insecure, don't give them withdrawal power.

[boxblizzard]

k update, got all the stuff back yesterday, still haven't let my brother back into the guild, i think i may start a real guild he can join since i 10 box now and just keep all my valuables in my bank.
Anyways everythign was restored, using in game tickets, no phone calls were made, did take a week or so.


slap your brother and format his pc!!!

[falsfire3401]

We had a guy hacked 2 weeks ago. His hacker was able to pull more stuff out of the gbank then he was supposed to. Blizz says they are aware of it.

Just to let you know
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=20677677047&postId=209518319255&sid=1#0

This.

That's happened to my guild 5x now, members being hacked and being able to jack the gbank for more items and gold than they should be allowed to take. We've had it restored each time. Every single member who's been hacked has gotten an authenticator since. Plus, after the 2nd time it happened we made all full members have the right to gkick people, so if anybody is online late at night or whatever and notices suspicious behaviour from a member and cannot verify their identity, they gkick them and all their alts to protect the bank.

[TheBigBB]

I'm still not sure how so many people get hacked to begin with. Is it just viruses or are people actually giving their account info away?

[Kedash00]

viruses i'de bet, who gives there account info to a gold seller? lol

[Ualaa]

Well one guy had purchased account CD-Keys online from a gold site.
So that's one way for them to have your information.