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Hypermoo
01-06-2008, 10:29 PM
My warlocks recently hit 70. I have been encountering a lot of people on my own faction that don't want me multi boxing. This happens with raiding guilds, instance groups, and even when doing premade BGs.
"You can come, but only bring one character."
Do you get that much, or is it just my server? What do you do when this happens?
PyrostasisTDK
01-06-2008, 10:52 PM
just ignore them, thats the beauty of multiboxing, you dont need others.
However, if your into raiding and what not, you probably will have some difficulty going as a boxer.
Ellay
01-07-2008, 12:00 AM
Yes that is pretty common, a lot of guilds do not believe you can play more than 1 character effectively, you pretty much have you prove yourself.
My suggestion would be to find a guild that is trying to progress but is low on members, thus you filling the extra slots is hugely beneficial to them since they usually cannot fill it otherwise. Once the guild starts progressing forward, you've already found your niche and all your character slots are accounted for.
thinus
01-07-2008, 12:03 AM
So has anyone 5-boxed in Kara with a raid?
3-boxed?
2-boxed?
I would think 2x ranged dps is probably easiest to do although most servers I've been on have tank and healer shortages. So tank+healer might be doable if your healer doesn't have to do too much except look after the tank.
Ellay
01-07-2008, 12:06 AM
Yep, releasing a video on it this week. I trashed all my fraps of the run last week because my guildie said it wasn't good enough :)
Hypermoo
01-07-2008, 12:09 AM
Sadly I only have 3 accounts, so I do need to group for things. While leveling, I did run a few instances with other people, without telling them that I was multiboxing. Only a couple people noticed, and they were fine with it, cause all those instances went well.
thinus
01-07-2008, 12:19 AM
My warlocks recently hit 70. I have been encountering a lot of people on my own faction that don't want me multi boxing. This happens with raiding guilds, instance groups, and even when doing premade BGs.
"You can come, but only bring one character."
Do you get that much, or is it just my server? What do you do when this happens?
From a BG perspective: if you are 2-boxing I wouldn't mind so much if I was putting the premade together. If you are 5-boxing it means your 5 characters need to stay together severely hampering mobility and support.
Also, if one of your characters dies you have issues with getting them together again. Say you are fighting in the enemy flag room in WSG and one dies and rez. How difficult will it be for one to continue fighting for their flag and the other to go assist the defense or chase their flag runner.
What if one rez and the other just miss the timer, now you have to stand around for 30s twiddling your thumbs till the other rezzes.
From a strategy point of view you are not as efficient as 2 single boxers would be.
On the other hand, your multi-box characters fight as a unit. Death coil, Howl of Terror, Fear rotations all work seemlessly and you will probably tear any solo character or inexperienced duo that go up against you apart.
The problem is when the characters get separated.
Yeah, when things are going well it's always cheer and roses. When things are going bad, it's always the multi-boxers fault. No it wasn't the priest that missed the shackle, the hunter that missed the trap, the warlock that aggro'd with Seed of Corruption, it's the multi-boxer that ruined the raid.
Fortunately for me, I solo'd a priest for some 60 game days, so I'm used to taking the blame and having people B**&ch at me. (wtf no heals?!)
thinus
01-07-2008, 01:11 AM
Yeah, when things are going well it's always cheer and roses. When things are going bad, it's always the multi-boxers fault. No it wasn't the priest that missed the shackle, the hunter that missed the trap, the warlock that aggro'd with Seed of Corruption, it's the multi-boxer that ruined the raid.
Fortunately for me, I solo'd a priest for some 60 game days, so I'm used to taking the blame and having people B**&ch at me. (wtf no heals?!)
I used to be a rogue. It was always the tank's fault. ALWAYS. Except when the tank died, usually cause someone was healing me instead of the tank. Which still makes it the tank's fault. If the tank was doing the job properly I wouldn't have taken any damage and wouldn't need to be healed in the first place.
Just before I quit raiding I was working on my leather tanking set. I tanked the trash in Kara just before Opera. It went pretty well...and then evasion ran out.
5 characters, 5 monthly fees, 5 slots = 5 rolls if a pickup or 1x DKP for EACH character.
Just try to spread the rolls out.... you have no idea how greedy people can get.
For some fights, e.g. ultra cutting edge content where EVERY spot has to be 110%, 5 boxing might not work well. I sat the Zins out of Thaddius for example. But you shouldn't have to bench 1 or 2 because Joe Lateass couldn't join the raid in time.
And DO NOT let people serve you BS about 1 player 1 roll or 1 main and 4 alts.
Skuggomann
01-07-2008, 03:27 AM
In my experience if soem 1 give you BS jsut do /ingore and they will be loosing a good player.
I am usualy nr 1 on dps wen i raid with 1 caracter, so y shud it be enny diferent wuth 5? (or 4) specialy wen its shamans and you can drop 5x wrath have salv and tranquidlty fo air (if it stacs its 50% threat reduction) skipp ALL spell hit rating and go full out haist/crit.
In good blues/epix you shud be dishing out about 1000-1500 dps each so thats 5000-7500 DPS for 5 guys and that is MORE than enough for kara and Zul'Aman
rule of thumb: If you cant loot they can jsut go fuck them selves, there are prob plenty og guilds that are more than glad to have you in thear raid team.
Boylston
01-07-2008, 12:57 PM
Best suggestion I've read so far is to find a guild that is recruiting people for raiding, and tell them, "Hey, I can bring between 1-5 DPSers to a raid to help you fill up the team. They'll all be on time, they'll all stay the duration, and they'll all be very well coordinated".
Better yet if you already have experience and can help people navigate the gimmicks/tricks to a given raid instance.
Alternatively, you can be the GM. Or perhaps butter up the GM by having him on your Arena team (all multi-boxers have 5v5 arena teams with 2000 ratings, right?!).
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