Herald Volazj - 18 seconds

[Reglar]

So, Old Kingdom was the daily today, downed Volazj in 18 seconds, probably not a record but I was pretty happy with the DPS I got from the team.

http://reglarshome.com/Volazj18secs.comhttp://reglarshome.com/Volazj18secs.jpg
http://reglarshome.com/Volazj6secs,jpg

[Smoooth]

Somehow I don't believe this. He starts to cast the first insanity at 66% and it's a 5 second cast. I don't think you can do about 300k damage in 5 seconds.

Maybe this is 18 seconds after the last insanity ends? Or is there now a way to interrupt his insanity?

[Multibocks]

If you dps him into his next cast of insanity he will start the cast of insanity #2. so you get 10secs or so to get in some damage.

edit" also insanity#1 starts casting at 66% if memory serves me.

editx2: also this one of the few fights where a warrior tank shines. Reflect his dot and it makes it mucho easier.

[Funnyshane]

Zoiks! Thats fast! Pitty you dont have any dps meters on screen to show the dps - Im curious to see what numbers you pull.

[Reglar]

They changed the mechanic so that if you push him into his 2nd insanity before his 1st goes off you don't get shadows (perhaps it was always like that)

The only consequence though is that you don't get the normal loot cursor, you have to sort of hunt and peck on the boss to get the loot.

I'll re-run it Friday and post the meters. Maybe I'll fraps it if I can get it setup.

[Fursphere]

I've done some serious DPS on this fight as well, and I thought that the insanity was not "out runable" - meaning, no matter how much DPS you lay down, you're going to get 2x Insanity phases.

I'll have to try it again though and see.

[Whowantstoknow]

Its been this way from the start as far as I know. Ive been doing it for a while like this and the first person on these boards that did it this way was Niley in 16s

http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=23551&highlight=insanity&page=2

[Multibocks]

You can push through both phases, but you will most likely wipe after he dies as there will be double the amount of adds to kill. Boss is still lootable though =D

[Alemi]

Its been this way from the start as far as I know. Ive been doing it for a while like this and the first person on these boards that did it this way was Niley in 16s

http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=23551&highlight=insanity&page=2

August?

http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=17982&page=3

Kaynin and I did it back in February. It's been that way since release of Wrath.

[Reglar]

I went back in and FRAP'd the fight, unfortunately I decided to upgrade my video editing software and its now hosed. So here's a screenshot of the meters for now. Note that I got the kill down to 16 seconds the last 2 nights.

http://reglarshome.com/Volazj16secs.jpg

[Smoooth]

Any idea what the least amount of dps you need to skip the insanity?

[David]

Any idea what the least amount of dps you need to skip the insanity?
Considering he has around 300k left when he starts the first insanity.

300.000/5chars/10seconds=6k on each char. Well a paladin tank won`t get that much so I`d say around 7k on the dps. Which doesn`t go with the preciously posted dps screenshot + prettymuch impossible on a single target rofl. Guess I`m missing something here.

btw could you post your armory and dps macro? I`m wondering how your shamans are doing this much damage:rolleyes:

[Whowantstoknow]

He has at most 431,392hps

You need to dps the last 66% in 10s so

287595 in 10s ie 28759.5 group dps if we take an arbitrary value of 2K dps for the tank (frankly this is on the low side)

then you 4 dps need to put out 6690dps (remember this is maximum)

In the SS the Total hps were slightly lower at 428007 and recount is showing that the time on the boss was longer than 16s which is why the dps numbers look lower than you would expect

Pally was on the boss for 20s and the others for around 17.5s going by recounts total damage/dps

[Reglar]

Shammy macro:


#show Lightning Bolt
/script UIErrorsFrame:Hide()
/use 13
/use 14
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear()
/script UIErrorsFrame:Show()
/cast Elemental Mastery
/castsequence reset=5 flame shock,lava burst,chain lightning,lightning bolt,lightning bolt,chain lightning,lava burst,lightning bolt,chain lightning,lightning bolt,lightning bolt,chain lightning
/castrandom lightning boltArmory is linked to the left under my name.

[David]

Well it looks like you have 2200SP without weapon enchant on. I have 2k with so there is a difference.

My macro is about the same, only difference is that I have CL on castrandom and LB in the castsequence. I should try yours. Maybe I`ll get higher then what I`m now.

[Whowantstoknow]

I would be very surprised if your dps increased using that macro as it is very inefficient

[Reglar]

I assume you are referring to the build in delay castsequence brings and /click is better (which I am too lazy to setup) but if you mean something else I would be interested in seeing the details. Thanks.

[Whowantstoknow]

Well theres 2 points

1st is the one you mention ie the server/client nature of wow last time I ran the numbers a 50ms latency can afftect your dps by around 5% and obviously gets worse the higher your latency

2nd You effectively are using a fixed rotation which has not been optimal dps for a while when they buffed Lightning overload in a hotfix after 3.1. Back then it was more dps to delay a LB to make sure you cast LvB on cooldown. These days it is a dps loss to do that. The cooldowns just do not line up nicely to model a priority rotation in a castsequence. A fixed rotation also benefits less from Blood Lust or any temporary haste effect. On a short fight it probably does not make much of a difference (except when using Blood Lust) but you will notice the improvement on a longer fight using a priority rotation

The last thing is more of a nitpicking thing that shouldnt really affect dps and that is there is no need to have the last line as a /castrandom just use /cast

[Niley]

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7971/wowscrnshot112509194113.jpg


12s, insanity cast didnt even start.

[MiRai]

That's.....insanity.

[Reglar]

Nice!

[Niley]

maybe with fire elementals i could get it down to 10s, who knows.

[Maxion]

Try using drums of the wild for druid buff as well :)

[Mamut]

I think its cool for everyone that can push it this fast, i usually see insanity pop when he is at 10%.

Whats your moonkin macro look like? your moonkin is doing much higher dps then mine (you also have better gear hehe).


Shammy macro:


#show Lightning Bolt
/script UIErrorsFrame:Hide()
/use 13
/use 14
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear()
/script UIErrorsFrame:Show()
/cast Elemental Mastery
/castsequence reset=5 flame shock,lava burst,chain lightning,lightning bolt,lightning bolt,chain lightning,lava burst,lightning bolt,chain lightning,lightning bolt,lightning bolt,chain lightning
/castrandom lightning boltArmory is linked to the left under my name.

[Reglar]

Basically I have 2 macros setup (and they are not optimized).

Wrath:


/script UIErrorsFrame:Hide()
/use 13
/use 14
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear()
/script UIErrorsFrame:Show()
/castsequence reset=5 moonfire, wrath, wrath, wrath, wrath, wrath, wrath

Starfire


/script UIErrorsFrame:Hide()
/use 13
/use 14
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear()
/script UIErrorsFrame:Show()
/castsequence reset=5 moonfire, starfire, starfire, starfire, starfire, starfire, starfire

I have mouse button 4 (I use a 5 button mouse) with ISBoxer to swap cast bars when I press the mouse button, and switches back when I do it again. One one bar I put the wrath macro on button 2, on the other I put the starfire macro on button 2, and then I just spam, clicking my mouse button when eclipse procs.

Normally I just use the wrath bar for trash, but I switch as eclipse procs for boss fights.

[Mamut]

Thanks for sharing, I guess its time i start watching my Eclipse procs more closely!

[TheBigBB]

Shammy macro:


#show Lightning Bolt
/script UIErrorsFrame:Hide()
/use 13
/use 14
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear()
/script UIErrorsFrame:Show()
/cast Elemental Mastery
/castsequence reset=5 flame shock,lava burst,chain lightning,lightning bolt,lightning bolt,chain lightning,lava burst,lightning bolt,chain lightning,lightning bolt,lightning bolt,chain lightning
/castrandom lightning boltArmory is linked to the left under my name.

I don't understand this macro. It resets in 5 seconds??! Why?

[Chilaxx]

The "reset=5" is not the timer that the macro will reset. It's the time it takes for the macro to reset when you're not pushing the button.

So if you're using the macro the whole time, it will just reset at the end, when you're between battles, and it takes like 10 seconds before you hit your key again, then you macro has been reset (because 10 > 5 :p)

Hope this helps!

[Seldum]

I have never been a fan of Castsequence since when I meet a boss which took longer to down than I had spells in my castsequence, resulting in my DPS just stopping.....

But this is nice to add in the end, ill definetly remember this:

/castrandom lightning bolt

[Danos]

Nice work, I hate Volazj so rarely go there.

I've downed him once by burning through the insanities but had the most bizarre thing happen. On my tank, priest and one shaman he hadn't died (had about 5k hp left) when he ended the second insanity, but on my other shamans he had died. I was able to kill the images that were up on my pally (although there didn't seem to be two lots of them), then finished off Volazj. Once I'd killed him this time, his body was in two different places (one for the toons with the first death, and the other for the second death). Weird!

Anyone else come across this?

[TheBigBB]

The "reset=5" is not the timer that the macro will reset. It's the time it takes for the macro to reset when you're not pushing the button.

So if you're using the macro the whole time, it will just reset at the end, when you're between battles, and it takes like 10 seconds before you hit your key again, then you macro has been reset (because 10 > 5 :p)

Hope this helps!

Yeah, looking at it some more, it's a decent macro. It's similar to what I use, I just put the reset higher, but thinking about it now I think 5 might be alright.

[TheBigBB]

I have never been a fan of Castsequence since when I meet a boss which took longer to down than I had spells in my castsequence, resulting in my DPS just stopping.....

But this is nice to add in the end, ill definetly remember this:

/castrandom lightning bolt

Castsequence is the only solution I can think of to making mixed teams function. Also, I never had my team stop casting before even though I use castsequences. Maybe you were doing it wrong. It should go back the the beginning when it gets to the end. It's either that or there's some other reason my teams never cease casting that I'm not aware of.

[Maxion]

I have never been a fan of Castsequence since when I meet a boss which took longer to down than I had spells in my castsequence, resulting in my DPS just stopping.....

But this is nice to add in the end, ill definetly remember this:

/castrandom lightning bolt

The /castrandom will actually not do anything anymore.
Just make sure that when you castsequence starts over it won't get stuck on a cooldown or something.


Nice work, I hate Volazj so rarely go there.

I've downed him once by burning through the insanities but had the most bizarre thing happen. On my tank, priest and one shaman he hadn't died (had about 5k hp left) when he ended the second insanity, but on my other shamans he had died. I was able to kill the images that were up on my pally (although there didn't seem to be two lots of them), then finished off Volazj. Once I'd killed him this time, his body was in two different places (one for the toons with the first death, and the other for the second death). Weird!

Anyone else come across this?

I've tried burning him down before he finishes any insanity casts, but don't have the dps for it just yet, sometimes though, it seems that some characters get to continue dpsing him even after some of the others get insanity, so i suspect he can be rather buggy when burning him into double insanity mode.

[Niley]

I know this isnt volazj, but hey its my first 9s kill.
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/5182/wowscrnshot121709105121.jpg

[Fursphere]

I know this isnt volazj, but hey its my first 9s kill.
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/5182/wowscrnshot121709105121.jpg

One item under 245... fucking slacker :D

[Niley]

One item under 245... fucking slacker :D
I only started raiding again few weeks ago :( I'm trying!
and its 2 items!

[Xorn]

Try harder then! :P

[Niley]

Try harder then! :P
down to 1 now :O just got flare of heavens

[Xorn]

I kind of miss my fourth damage dealer that had to go for my priest healer - it was kinda nice to just burn down most bosses - without searching for it, did you already clear the new instances on heroic?(since we're men and not talking about non heroic versions, right? :P)

If yes, how much trouble did you have with a) the lich king escape thingy and b) with tyrannus (with or without frost resistance gear?)

Xorn

[Niley]

I kind of miss my fourth damage dealer that had to go for my priest healer - it was kinda nice to just burn down most bosses - without searching for it, did you already clear the new instances on heroic?(since we're men and not talking about non heroic versions, right? :P)

If yes, how much trouble did you have with a) the lich king escape thingy and b) with tyrannus (with or without frost resistance gear?)

Xorn
I dont box too much right now, i just do daily heroic boxing so i dont have deal with retarded pugs, so on live i havent cleared it(i got FoS as my daily yesterday, so i cleared it, was super easy, 15 mins clear - if that), but i did it all on the ptr with much less geared toons and when adds in HoR had 40% more hp, ive posted videos of first two in movies section.
I was overgearing it then, now I overgear it even more....going by gs numbers, my main shaman is at over 5700, my tank is at 5540, my lock around 5300ish, and two shamans at 4700-4800...there is no loot that i want from there, besides i think farming for loot is useless now since its supposed to be last 5 man of the expansion, so why should i get gear? its pointless for leveling since 5 dps(my pally would be ret) 3 of them will be in full t10(i raid on my shaman, pally and lock) will one shot almost anything..
Also my hands are full with helping guildiess now, farming rep, helping witch achievments etc, i did 3 box icc25 few days ago :P


edit. Sigh PoS came as daily, just my luck heh
here is the finale, http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/2113/wowscrnshot121809233332.jpg
It was nerfed from what it was on the ptr...i bet Ill get HoR as tomorrows daily knowing my luck
anddd another edit
http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/4383/wor.jpg
i thought the escape was easy, pally tank is op for this, between consecrate, 2 taunts, bop and mgama totems adds were dieing in seconds.