Shaman macros

[suicidesspyder]

Ok can any one link me to where the big discussion was with spell rotation macros for a shaman. I remember reading it but never wrote in it. Now with my dps only sitting at 3k with bis on ptr i know somethings wrong. Thanks.

[Nighthawk38]

Spyder,

Two places you can find it: In the Macros Forum, under Macro Compendium, or in the Wiki. Khatovar's Shaman macros are in both places. Hope this helps.

[Oswyn]

I believe the post is gone (don't ask). However, the result of the discussion should be represented in the Macro Compendium sticky.

You can google search cached pages - search for "site:dual-boxing.com elemental shaman dps macro post 3.2"

[suicidesspyder]

I just regemmed my guy not worrying about socket bonus so now shammy is at almost 2800 sp unbuffed little over 3400 self buffed. Now hes hitting 5k dps solo so with other class make ups and buffs ill be hitting alot higher. Plus changed my macro around a little.

[David]

This is the macro I use:

/use 13
/use 14
/cast Elemental Mastery
/cast Blood Fury(Racial)
/castsequence reset=combat Flame Shock,Lava Burst,Lightning Bolt,Lightning Bolt,Lightning Bolt,Lightning Bolt,Lightning Bolt
/cast Chain Lightning


I get around 2.6 to 4k with this one depending on the fight. However my shamans only have 2k spellpower selfbuffed.

Mind me asking what macro you were using?

[suicidesspyder]

I was just using a fs,lvb, lb, lb, lb, cl then starting over. Now im using a fs, lvb, lb,lb,lb, lvb, cl,lb,lb, lvb, lb,lb,lb,lb.fs,lvb.

With using major glyphs totem of wrath lava burst and flame shock. Gemming everything for pure spell power. I saw about 500-700 more dps increase solo with self buffs. So wonder in a raid what i would do now.

[Coltimar]

I am trying to perfect a dps macro for my resto shaman. He isn't dual spec but I want him to spam dps and heal when needed. I'll post it if anyone cares and I get it sorted. He just did 608 dps in H-UK, lol. So it needs work.

[Ualaa]

I use a click castsequence, my timing comma's assume two clicks per second.
I'll repost from my wow macro.cache file.


#show Lightning Bolt
/Cast Elemental Mastery
/Click MultiBarRightButton6
/Click MultiBarRightButton7
/Click MultiBarRightButton8
/Click MultiBarRightButton9


#show Flame Shock
/castsequence reset=combat Flame Shock,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
/use 13
/use 14


#show Lava Burst
/castsequence reset=combat Lava Burst,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


#show Chain Lightning
/castsequence reset=combat Chain Lightning,,,,,,


#show Lightning Bolt
/cast Lightning Bolt

[Bettysue]

If you have macros with a relatively short number of commas and can fit 2 into the same macro you can reduce the number of macro spaces required for /click priority listings. I'll use Ualaa's macros for example:


#show Lightning Bolt
/Cast Elemental Mastery
/Click MultiBarRightButton6
/Click MultiBarRightButton6 Right
/Click MultiBarRightButton7
/Click MultiBarRightButton7 RightMacro on 6

/castsequence reset=combat [btn:1] Flame Shock,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
/use 13
/use 14
/castsequence reset=combat [btn:2] Lava Burst,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Macro on 7

/castsequence reset=combat [btn:1] Chain Lightning,,,,,,
/cast [btn:2] Lightning BoltSince the macros are processed all at once it still works just like the separate macros, it just saves a bit of space when you are getting near the 32 macro limit.

[Niley]

fs, lvb, lb,lb,lb, lvb, cl,lb,lb, lvb, lb,lb,lb,lb.fs,lvb..

3 LBs after LvB? is your cast time 2.66s?
Also cl after LVB is bad idea, since its instant it will hit the boss before you will gain CC from lvb, meaning it will cost full amount of mana, always do lb after lvb

[Bettysue]

3 LBs after LvB? is your cast time 2.66s?
Also cl after LVB is bad idea, since its instant it will hit the boss before you will gain CC from lvb, meaning it will cost full amount of mana, always do lb after lvb

I run around doing most things in PvP gear so I don't have much in the way of haste.

Both CL and LB have a cast time that is long enough when you lack haste to allow for the travel of LvB. The time you spend casting is plenty of time for the CC to proc and be used. Another thing is there is no advantage since CC reduction is applied on next spell cast not spell hit. I always place CL after LvB and haven't had problems with CC at all...again this is with little to no haste.

[Whowantstoknow]

LvB has a travel time - if you cast CL after LvB and are at range there is a good chance that CL will be cast without the CC buff. The preferred "rotation" is LVB-LB-CL to minimise this possibility.


summary

If there is no chance in going OOM then use CL on cooldown
If managing mana is important use CL only with CC buff, use LVB-LB-CL to make sure that CC will be up fo CL
drop CL during BL

[Niley]

Both CL and LB have a cast time the time you spend casting is plenty of time for the CC to proc and be used. Another thing is there is no advantage since CC is applied on spell cast not spell hit. I always place CL after LvB and haven't had problems with CC at all...
Watch and learn, made this just for you. Next time before You spread false information, test it for Yourself first.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqB7EiFFazk

lvb hits, but look cl actually hits before lvb, and i end up with 2 cc buffs, none used.

[Bettysue]

Ah yes you have a hasted CL cast that is shorter than the travel time of LvB to proc the CC. I can see how that would cause a problem, the spell is still working like it should, and with base cast times which is what I'm near most times, this problem can not occur.

So I'm not spreading misinformation anymore than you might have been, it was just information based on different criteria. I've corrected my post above to reflect that my statement is true while not hasted.

[suicidesspyder]

yea i changed it all i rarely use chain lightning any more now. I just put flame shock and lvb on click and spam lb. Never really needed chain lightning cept for arena.

[Niley]

Ah yes you have a hasted CL cast that is shorter than the travel time of LvB to proc the CC. I can see how that would cause a problem, the spell is still working like it should, and with base cast times which is what I'm near most times, this problem can not occur.

So I'm not spreading misinformation anymore than you might have been, it was just information based on different criteria. I've corrected my post above to reflect that my statement is true while not hasted.

No, this is also incorrect. Here is me naked, with zero haste, same effect. Lvb aND Cl cc is common knowledge, i didnt make this up :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFZ3umTl4uk

I like how my mana is almost empty after i casted cl


yea i changed it all i rarely use chain lightning any more now. I just put flame shock and lvb on click and spam lb. Never really needed chain lightning cept for arena.

Cl adds a fair amount of dps on single target after latest changes to shamanism.

[Bettysue]

Ya Niley I know this happens with frost mages and is a serious pain in the ass, I've never had this problem on my shaman though. I'll get off my butt tonight and DL fraps to show you what happens for me.

I'll flameshock(no crit) LvB (crit proc CC) CL (crit proc CC) but you can see the mana cost stay reduced from the LvB and the charges quickly go 2-1-2. If CL doesn't crit it of course stays 1. So I honestly have no idea how to duplicate the scenario.

I'll try with and without a castsequence, since I know sequences slow down while waiting to cast the next spell on higher latency connections (e.g. mine in Korea). I'll also respec to match your talents exactly. Are you standing at the absolute max distance that allows all 3 spells?

[suicidesspyder]

I must be doing something wrong. Still on ptr testing out click sequences and using bis gear but still having trouble breaking 5k dps ill link if neone can help specially u niley. Since ive seen alot from your side.
/click MultiBarLeftButton7
/click MultiBarLeftButton8
/click MultiBarLeftButton9

/castsequence reset=target Flame Shock,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,

/castsequence reset=target Lava Burst,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

/castsequence reset=target Lightning Bolt, Lightning Bolt, lightning bolt, chain lightning

Also i never understood the reason on flame shock for the space in between the commas. Tried without and its like my guy doesnt cast. Any help would be great trying to get this all set before my beast computer comes in.

[Drommon]

I must be doing something wrong. Still on ptr testing out click sequences and using bis gear but still having trouble breaking 5k dps ill link if neone can help specially u niley. Since ive seen alot from your side.
/click MultiBarLeftButton7
/click MultiBarLeftButton8
/click MultiBarLeftButton9

/castsequence reset=target Flame Shock,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,

/castsequence reset=target Lava Burst,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

/castsequence reset=target Lightning Bolt, Lightning Bolt, lightning bolt, chain lightning

Also i never understood the reason on flame shock for the space in between the commas. Tried without and its like my guy doesnt cast. Any help would be great trying to get this all set before my beast computer comes in.

It should be reset=combat instead of reset=target and the spelling should be exact like "Chain Lightning" caps and all. There should be no space between the commas. The space is put there by the editer, something about some sort of character limitation.

[suicidesspyder]

Ok thanks will try this out.

[suicidesspyder]

Hmmm 3500 self buffed sp and still cant break 5k this is getting wierd i just wonder if it does with the fact im like 20 below hit cap.

[suicidesspyder]

My bad its 6% to hit cap wow this is wierd i thought bis and gemmed right u were there. Im at 11% hit and spells is 17% hmmm.

[Ualaa]

For dot type spells, I use reset=target, because I would like to recast immediately if I change my target.

Other spells with recast delays like Conflagrate or Lava Burst, I use reset=combat, because even if I change my target, the spell is still on cooldown until the time expires.

[suicidesspyder]

Its just wierd im sitting at 3400 sp atm and now im like .46% below hit cap i can hit 5500 at the most but see a hunter do almost 7k what am i doing wrong lol.

Or are shamans not that powerful as some. Even see locks rape face.

[Ualaa]

It depends on your team, your opponents etc.
But a shaman has the potential to be as good as anything else boxed.

A large selling point is the controlled burst.
Not much else can put out as much damage *now*.
They have a lot of perks.

[suicidesspyder]

Yea im doing this on a dummy just thought that i would be able to get more then 5500 dps. Just wonder in a raid how much higher that would be or with a few more factors like buffs and maybe druid sp or lock hmmmmm.

[Ualaa]

Raid dps will be higher then party/heroics.
You'll have all the buffs you can get.

Still, if you are comparing your shammy team as a 5-man.
Versus your hunter team as a 5-man.
I would assume neither has full raid buffs.
If the gear is equal, maybe the hunter has more buffs that benefit the class then the shammies?

[suicidesspyder]

Its what i thought. I did manage with flask of frosty wyrm and eating and self totems and wep buff to hit 6k on all shammies. So just to think pally, priest, lock, druid, mine food flasks pots. DPS is the skies limit. To bad the ptr wont invite 4 toons. I would love to get into voa on 25 man and goto town on the bosses there.

[Ualaa]

I'm pretty sure Asonimie has the video of 4x rogues on the PTR.
So you can do multiboxing there.

[Bettysue]

I must be doing something wrong. Still on ptr testing out click sequences and using bis gear but still having trouble breaking 5k dps ill link if neone can help specially u niley. Since ive seen alot from your side.
/click MultiBarLeftButton7
/click MultiBarLeftButton8
/click MultiBarLeftButton9

/castsequence reset=target Flame Shock,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,

/castsequence reset=target Lava Burst,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

/castsequence reset=target Lightning Bolt, Lightning Bolt, lightning bolt, chain lightning

Also i never understood the reason on flame shock for the space in between the commas. Tried without and its like my guy doesnt cast. Any help would be great trying to get this all set before my beast computer comes in.

Ya as said before the space isn't necessary a big killer on this might be your guy standing for a bit stuck waiting for CL to come off cooldown. I would put CL on a separate macro like the following:


/castsequence reset=combat Chain Lightning,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Then just have:

/cast Lightning Boltall by itself.

hope it helps, to better see it illustrated check out the wiki
http://www.dual-boxing.com/wiki/index.php/Macro:Using_Click#Elemental

Oh and if you are out of macro spaces or button space on screen you can do the following:


/click MultiBarLeftButton7
/click MultiBarLeftButton8
/click MultiBarLeftButton9
/click MultiBarLeftButton9 Right

and put this as one macro on button 9


/castsequence reset=combat Chain Lightning,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
/cast [btn:2] Lightning Bolt

[Whowantstoknow]

/castsequence reset=target Lightning Bolt, Lightning Bolt, lightning bolt, chain lightning

You are losing dps with this line. Dont use spells with a cast time in a castsequence it is inefficient.

Also the space in between the commas is done by the forums to preserve formatting - you do not need it in game.

[Fursphere]

I"m curious how you guys are doing FS, LvB, LB, CL rotations in a click sequence.

Clicks go in order, so once it hits LB, it'll never move onto CL. LB is put at the end normally so its the last thing to be cast...."spammed".

[Whowantstoknow]

Untested as I dont raid

change your

/castsequence CL,,,,,,,,,,

to

/castsequence ,,,,,CL,,,,,,,,

its only worthwhile if you are going to change you timing on CL to only cast after a LvB though. For heroics probably not worth it. For raid bosses it may be depending on the length of the fight

[Fursphere]

Untested as I dont raid

change your

/castsequence CL,,,,,,,,,,

to

/castsequence ,,,,,CL,,,,,,,,

its only worthwhile if you are going to change you timing on CL to only cast after a LvB though. For heroics probably not worth it. For raid bosses it may be depending on the length of the fight


Duh. Thanks for pointing that out. Guess my brain isn't awake this morning. lol

[Bettysue]

Good point, I was just talking with someone in another thread about CL following LvB causing higher mana usage due to the travel time on LvB allowing CL to hit before LvB can proc Clearcasting. I should modify the macro on the wiki so that it tries to reduce the chance of that scenario occurring.

Thanks Whowantstoknow

[suicidesspyder]

Oh i got superdupermacro so im fine. But thanks for idea on cl didnt even think of that.