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11-18-2009, 02:37 AM
Hi there!
Just wanted to introduce myself really. So last weekend (Saturday or Sunday I think) I was in Alterac Valley with my level 80 Blood Elf Hunter, when along comes a night elf hunter who has 4 copies of himself fighting alongside him (kind of like that one boss in the Nexus. I forget her name but she's incomprehensibly annoying). I see people in the chat talking about "multi-box man" and am flummoxed. My first thought was maybe it's some kind of spell that creates decoys, or mirror images of yourself temporarily, but then I realized if hunters had any such ability I'd have it too by then. So I figure maybe it's a trinket, and do some searching on wowhead.com and google, and eventually found this site.
I have to say I'm pretty amazed at the whole concept, and have started to try it out. Overall I like it, on the other hand, there are a lot of people out there who prefer to play a game competely without any "unfair" advantages. I have ot say it was kind of unbelievable how that one person pretty much made it impossible for us to win that AV battle. The up side is that most people don't have the money, skill, particular kind of intelligence or patience required to do it (particularly many of the younger or rude/lazy people that many people complain about).
So anyways, I've made two new accounts, and plan to set up four multi-box teams to start. Right now I'm keeping it pretty simple, so it'll be Team 1: three paladins, Team 2: three hunters, Team 3: three priests, and maybe Team 4: three death knights later. This is mainly because there are only 4 toons I really care about on my main account: My 80 blood elf hunter, my 41 blood elf paladin, my 41 troll priest, and my 62 blood elf death knight.
I do want to experiment with mixing classes later, but for now I just want to get the basics down. I'm using Keyclone but there are several things about it that seem quite limited, so I'm going to try ISBoxer instead. I got it all set up last night and created macros for my main paladin and one of the clones, just to test things out. Created the third account today. I'm hoping IS Boxer will allow me to simpilfy things a bit more and maybe even be able to do away with the /follow focus and /assist focus macros.
Right now I have five basic macros set up, one to set the focus to each character, the main and each of the clones, in case one of them dies and I have to switch leaders, and then /follow focus and /assist focus. Most of the buttons on my action bars have been replaced with macros, except the ones that are self cast only, like the seals. The others are all macrus that cast the spell with [target=focustarget].
A couple that may be interesting, that I've set up for the paladins are:
#showtooltip Judgement of Light
/castsequence [target=focustarget,exists] [] reset=target Hand of Reckoning, Consecration, Judgement of Light
I have two macros identical to this one that cast the Wisdom and Justice Judgements at the end, instead. The three macros take up slots 3, 4, and 5 on my main action bar. My main pally's only level 41, so there are a lot of abilities I don't have yet, and my setup will no doubt change as he gains new ones.
The main problem with this is, it starts over at Hand of Reckoning every time I change targets, so I never get to Consecration, let alone the judgements, if I'm in a low level area (which I am at the moment, since the 41 is boosting the other two and so keeps one-shotting everything). Not sure how much of an issue this is really. I made this sequence to consolidate so I wouldn't have to use as many different buttons, but I think I'm going to get rid of it, as it's more useful to be able to use these abilities independently (particularly consecration for AoE farming).
Hammer of Justice is of course on round-robin, as are the bubbles. I also set up /castsequence macros for the two bubbles that can be cast on other players. The best one takes 5 minutes to cool down, and if you use it and the second one right afterwards on another target, the time from when you cast the second to when you can cast the first again is about 2 mins (I think) so that's what the reset is. I'll double-check this when I get home.
The blessings are kind of annoying. I have them on do not pass, because otherwise both paladins cast the same blessing on the focus target. I could set them up to always cast a particular blessing on the same toon, but I want more flexibility than that. I think what I'll do is remove the key from the DNP list, and just put a different blessing in that slot for each paladin. That way when I have my main selected and I push the button, Pally1 will cast Kings, 2 will cast Wisdom and 3 will cast Might (or something like that ^_^). Oh yes, and 10min durations :mad: ugh.
Also, still don't see why they haven't made the seals toggle abilities like Righteous Fury and the auras, since they work in the exact same way. Okay, ranting done. Moving on. (There's more? Yeah I know)
I have a little bit of programming knowledge, enough to understand how to create if/then/else commands pretty well if I know what symbols have those meanings in the programming language. All in all though I'm not very good at it and can mostly just do simple things, with much referring to guides.
Also made a sequence for that casts Flash of Light first, then Holy Light, and resets on changing targets:
#showtooltip Holy Light
/castsequence [target=focustarget,exists] [] reset=target Flash of Light, Holy Light
The resetting on changing target seems to work better for this one. Lets me move on if the target doesn't need a big heal, and gets in a quick, small heal first, kind of an emergency bandaid, followed by the big one that takes longer to cast, all with the same button.
The empty brackets on the /castsequence macros, and the exists bit, are so the spell will still self cast if the focus doesn't have a target selected.
Anyway, I look forward to meeting you all. Thanks so much, your posts and the wiki have all been immensely helpful in getting started. Any thoughts on what I've set up so far? I'm particularly interested in the reset issue, and what abilities to combine into one button, if any. I combined HoR, Judgement and Consecration because they all have an 8 second cooldown, are essential to just about every fight, are all on the global cooldown, and are all offensive abilities, but on the other hand I don't like not being able to use them independently now.
PS: Any idea why my banner is getting cut off down there? xD
Just wanted to introduce myself really. So last weekend (Saturday or Sunday I think) I was in Alterac Valley with my level 80 Blood Elf Hunter, when along comes a night elf hunter who has 4 copies of himself fighting alongside him (kind of like that one boss in the Nexus. I forget her name but she's incomprehensibly annoying). I see people in the chat talking about "multi-box man" and am flummoxed. My first thought was maybe it's some kind of spell that creates decoys, or mirror images of yourself temporarily, but then I realized if hunters had any such ability I'd have it too by then. So I figure maybe it's a trinket, and do some searching on wowhead.com and google, and eventually found this site.
I have to say I'm pretty amazed at the whole concept, and have started to try it out. Overall I like it, on the other hand, there are a lot of people out there who prefer to play a game competely without any "unfair" advantages. I have ot say it was kind of unbelievable how that one person pretty much made it impossible for us to win that AV battle. The up side is that most people don't have the money, skill, particular kind of intelligence or patience required to do it (particularly many of the younger or rude/lazy people that many people complain about).
So anyways, I've made two new accounts, and plan to set up four multi-box teams to start. Right now I'm keeping it pretty simple, so it'll be Team 1: three paladins, Team 2: three hunters, Team 3: three priests, and maybe Team 4: three death knights later. This is mainly because there are only 4 toons I really care about on my main account: My 80 blood elf hunter, my 41 blood elf paladin, my 41 troll priest, and my 62 blood elf death knight.
I do want to experiment with mixing classes later, but for now I just want to get the basics down. I'm using Keyclone but there are several things about it that seem quite limited, so I'm going to try ISBoxer instead. I got it all set up last night and created macros for my main paladin and one of the clones, just to test things out. Created the third account today. I'm hoping IS Boxer will allow me to simpilfy things a bit more and maybe even be able to do away with the /follow focus and /assist focus macros.
Right now I have five basic macros set up, one to set the focus to each character, the main and each of the clones, in case one of them dies and I have to switch leaders, and then /follow focus and /assist focus. Most of the buttons on my action bars have been replaced with macros, except the ones that are self cast only, like the seals. The others are all macrus that cast the spell with [target=focustarget].
A couple that may be interesting, that I've set up for the paladins are:
#showtooltip Judgement of Light
/castsequence [target=focustarget,exists] [] reset=target Hand of Reckoning, Consecration, Judgement of Light
I have two macros identical to this one that cast the Wisdom and Justice Judgements at the end, instead. The three macros take up slots 3, 4, and 5 on my main action bar. My main pally's only level 41, so there are a lot of abilities I don't have yet, and my setup will no doubt change as he gains new ones.
The main problem with this is, it starts over at Hand of Reckoning every time I change targets, so I never get to Consecration, let alone the judgements, if I'm in a low level area (which I am at the moment, since the 41 is boosting the other two and so keeps one-shotting everything). Not sure how much of an issue this is really. I made this sequence to consolidate so I wouldn't have to use as many different buttons, but I think I'm going to get rid of it, as it's more useful to be able to use these abilities independently (particularly consecration for AoE farming).
Hammer of Justice is of course on round-robin, as are the bubbles. I also set up /castsequence macros for the two bubbles that can be cast on other players. The best one takes 5 minutes to cool down, and if you use it and the second one right afterwards on another target, the time from when you cast the second to when you can cast the first again is about 2 mins (I think) so that's what the reset is. I'll double-check this when I get home.
The blessings are kind of annoying. I have them on do not pass, because otherwise both paladins cast the same blessing on the focus target. I could set them up to always cast a particular blessing on the same toon, but I want more flexibility than that. I think what I'll do is remove the key from the DNP list, and just put a different blessing in that slot for each paladin. That way when I have my main selected and I push the button, Pally1 will cast Kings, 2 will cast Wisdom and 3 will cast Might (or something like that ^_^). Oh yes, and 10min durations :mad: ugh.
Also, still don't see why they haven't made the seals toggle abilities like Righteous Fury and the auras, since they work in the exact same way. Okay, ranting done. Moving on. (There's more? Yeah I know)
I have a little bit of programming knowledge, enough to understand how to create if/then/else commands pretty well if I know what symbols have those meanings in the programming language. All in all though I'm not very good at it and can mostly just do simple things, with much referring to guides.
Also made a sequence for that casts Flash of Light first, then Holy Light, and resets on changing targets:
#showtooltip Holy Light
/castsequence [target=focustarget,exists] [] reset=target Flash of Light, Holy Light
The resetting on changing target seems to work better for this one. Lets me move on if the target doesn't need a big heal, and gets in a quick, small heal first, kind of an emergency bandaid, followed by the big one that takes longer to cast, all with the same button.
The empty brackets on the /castsequence macros, and the exists bit, are so the spell will still self cast if the focus doesn't have a target selected.
Anyway, I look forward to meeting you all. Thanks so much, your posts and the wiki have all been immensely helpful in getting started. Any thoughts on what I've set up so far? I'm particularly interested in the reset issue, and what abilities to combine into one button, if any. I combined HoR, Judgement and Consecration because they all have an 8 second cooldown, are essential to just about every fight, are all on the global cooldown, and are all offensive abilities, but on the other hand I don't like not being able to use them independently now.
PS: Any idea why my banner is getting cut off down there? xD