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Clovis
11-11-2009, 04:33 PM
I use IS Boxer.

I've noticed that if the lead shaman is CC'd (specifically stunned but may be other forms of CC as well) that the others get effectively stunned too and won't cast.

So the lead gets stunned and the other stand there. I'm guessing its something to do with the auto assist built into IS Boxer but can this be fixed?

Ualaa
11-11-2009, 06:12 PM
I remember Ellay had a post a while ago.

Something about inserting /targetlastenemy into the macro, prior to the assist method.
Because when the master was cycloned, stunned, feared etc, the slaves were not able to get a target from the master.

Not sure exactly how to implement this with IS.
I would guess, the DPS FTL keys are 1 step keymaps.
So insert a wow macro prior to the Keymap Action which acquires the FTL target.
That way, worst case scenario the toons are at least DPSing something.

There might be a better work around.
I'm not even positive if this is your issue.

Whowantstoknow
11-11-2009, 08:14 PM
***Warning completely untested***

Go to

Key Maps - > General -> FTL Assist Me

and click on the and ... and restore Target afterwards click box

alternatively untick everything and in the Macro Generator type in

/assist {FTL}
/stopmacro [nomod]
/targetlastenemy

This should make it so that even if your master does not have a target your slaves should still acquire one - but it may do funky things that were not intended!

Bettysue
11-11-2009, 08:51 PM
If the macros in IS utilize targettarget the above macro will just cause frustration as the slaves will always target the last enemy they had targeted and try to shoot it. You can fix this with something like,

/targetlastenemy [noharm]

Whowantstoknow
11-11-2009, 09:39 PM
The preferred solution of course is to switch masters once your current master is incapacitated - with instant switching in IS this just seems logical to me.

Clovis
11-11-2009, 11:22 PM
I checked FTL assist me but there's no and or Target afterwards box to check. Am I missing something?



***Warning completely untested***

Go to

Key Maps - > General -> FTL Assist Me

and click on the and ... and restore Target afterwards click box

alternatively untick everything and in the Macro Generator type in

/assist {FTL}
/stopmacro [nomod]
/targetlastenemy

This should make it so that even if your master does not have a target your slaves should still acquire one - but it may do funky things that were not intended!

Lax
11-12-2009, 01:05 PM
I checked FTL assist me but there's no and or Target afterwards box to check. Am I missing something?That'd be in the Targeting Helper options in the mapped key, but these options are not what you want


alternatively untick everything and in the Macro Generator type in

/assist {FTL}
/stopmacro [nomod]
/targetlastenemy

This should make it so that even if your master does not have a target your slaves should still acquire one - but it may do funky things that were not intended!You shouldn't need "/stopmacro [nomod]" if you're changing the FTL Assist Me macro, because it's sent only to the other characters anyway.


If the macros in IS utilize targettarget the above macro will just cause frustration as the slaves will always target the last enemy they had targeted and try to shoot it. You can fix this with something like,

/targetlastenemy [noharm] Adding "/targetlastenemy [noharm]" should technically "work" assuming you NEVER want it to assist you on a friendly NPC -- such as a questgiver. That would be a deal breaker for me, since to talk to any NPC I would target with main, hit assist, and broadcast interact w/ target.

What I might do instead is a simple "/targetlasttarget [noexists]", so if you try to assist and fail, you automatically get the previous target. This could also be problematic if you'd rather they have no target than the last thing they had targeted.

Being able to keep a target doesn't really make it more convenient to be incapacitated though (e.g. if their target dies), I'm with Whowantstoknow on the switcihng windows thing.

Ualaa
11-12-2009, 07:54 PM
Thinking about it, the PiP swap is virtually instant.
And the other toons will immediately assist correctly.
That's the easiest solution, by a long shot.

The target last enemy options were in a Keyclone thread, and with somewhat slow PiP swaps, and no automatic FTL, that was a pretty decent option.

Clovis
11-13-2009, 06:45 PM
Thanks for the responses.

I'll add in the macros and see if that works all though I had clicked the W/O current option and this apparently stopped my assisting on the clones - I noticed this in a BG when people weren't dropping the mass chain lightning but rather just a single chain lightnin; I felt so inadequet =P

I changed it back and even copied my exact settings from my 5 shamans and 4 sham + 1 pally profiles but couldn't get it to revert back -- looks like I'm resetting up boxer after work today.

Its not bad but is there a way to save and import my white key list? That's the biggest thing, finding out which keys I'm using and which I'm not.

Ualaa
11-14-2009, 04:26 AM
I'm sure this is a way.

But IS is a lot stronger with Keymaps for what you use, then utilizing a white and black list.

If you don't make a Keymap for something, its not broadcast to the other characters.
So essentially, making a keymap is the same thing as placing that hotkey on a white list.
And similarly, anything that is not on a keymap, is the same thing as being on your black list.

The white/black list just controls if its passed or not.
The Keymap serves the same functionality, but can direct which toons receive it, and even give a different action to each toon (example - press 1 and all clients press 1, but press 2 and the dps press 1, while the healer presses a heal key).

Bettysue
11-16-2009, 06:12 AM
Adding "/targetlastenemy [noharm]" should technically "work" assuming you NEVER want it to assist you on a friendly NPC -- such as a questgiver. That would be a deal breaker for me, since to talk to any NPC I would target with main, hit assist, and broadcast interact w/ target.

What I might do instead is a simple "/targetlasttarget [noexists]", so if you try to assist and fail, you automatically get the previous target. This could also be problematic if you'd rather they have no target than the last thing they had targeted.

Being able to keep a target doesn't really make it more convenient to be incapacitated though (e.g. if their target dies), I'm with Whowantstoknow on the switcihng windows thing.

Ya my fault there I didn't read the post well enough to realize he is utilizing the macros that are dynamically created, targetlastenemy would indeed be problematic in the assist macro.

Toned
11-16-2009, 10:43 PM
This bug is even more fun when your main gets mind controlled :P Sometimes in funky situations you end up nuking the shit out of your main. This is not IS related it is WoW API. The /targetlastenemy works in most cases.