View Full Version : Shaman vs Priest Healing 5 box
crowdx
11-06-2009, 01:58 PM
Hi all,
I have just started to explore teams larger than 2 man teams and I am wondering for a 4 man team which is the easiest to heal with.
Currently the team is 70 warlock, 70 hunter, 80 druid and either a 69 priest or 69 shaman, I may add a 5th (use my wife's account).
My overall long term goal would be to multibox some dungeons in Northrend.
I am using ISBoxer which I am finding very userfriendly :)
Khatovar
11-06-2009, 02:02 PM
I may add a 5th (use my wife's account).
Account sharing is a violation of WoW's rule's. You chance getting all your accounts banned as well as her's.
crowdx
11-06-2009, 02:13 PM
I pay for all the accounts, so I really do not see this as a violation. If anything my wife playing her own account would be a violation lol.
What would WoW's goal be in banning me, the usage is from the same household and unless they came to my house and physically saw either one of us playing the other person's main account I could not see how blizzard could define any sharing.
I believe WoW's rules on account sharing is more interested in single accounts being used by multiple users at different locations and also possibly any account hacing which could happen in the process.
But what about my original question????
gitcho
11-06-2009, 02:22 PM
don't worry - you're well within blizzard's ToS.
My main dungeon team is a pally, priest, 3xmage. I started with my priest as holy, and eventually switched to disc and it made a big difference in keeping my team up. Priests have a lot of utility and decent buffs. Tough call ... the shaman can't heal the group as well as a priest can, but offers really good single target healing. I may consider going with the shaman only because you get good buffs for the rest of your group from the totems (spell power, resistances, armor boost, passive healing, mana regen etc.). It's pretty close though IMO
Jubber
11-06-2009, 02:24 PM
They don't care who pays whose bills. If you get reported (which happens often when you box) and they see that multiple toons are being run by one user (very obvious) they will check the accts. If they see multiple accts are being used they will ban you regardless. They don't see it any differently then a powerleveling service.
To answer your question though, both chain heal and COH are very nice for AOE healing. I would go the route of the shaman just because of the totem benefit.
Drommon
11-06-2009, 02:26 PM
Hi all,
I have just started to explore teams larger than 2 man teams and I am wondering for a 4 man team which is the easiest to heal with.
Currently the team is 70 warlock, 70 hunter, 80 druid and either a 69 priest or 69 shaman, I may add a 5th (use my wife's account).
My overall long term goal would be to multibox some dungeons in Northrend.
I am using ISBoxer which I am finding very userfriendly :)
Regarding heals I have experience with Priest, Druid and Shaman. In my case I found the priest to be the best healer. My priest is specced to DISC/holy. Just be sure to use Prayer of Mending on your tank whenever it is up. PoM keeps the group healed and adds the threat to the tank instead of the priest.
Since you mentioned 4 man team, I believe the shaman is best for that case. If you are going to do NR instances, you should have 5 toons. Although I read that 5 shamans rule everything but other than that a mixed team needs to use the holy trinity setup (tank+healer+dpsx3). And in this case I found the priest to work best.
Drommon
Khatovar
11-06-2009, 02:41 PM
don't worry - you're well within blizzard's ToS.
Unless his wife is also his daughter, no, he's not.
Mokoi
11-06-2009, 03:02 PM
Before you guys lynch the OP, the question is
Are all the accounts in HIS name, or his and his wifes?
I know quite a few couples that play wow, where both accounts are in one spouses name - its just they way they set them up originally, without reading the EULA/TOS with a magnifying glass.
This guy didn't buy accounts obviously, so cut him some slack.
Fursphere boxes on his dog's account. True story.
and for OP.. What you see as a violation of your ToS is inconsequential to what Blizzard believes is a violation.
You see, they do not work in the democratically elected republic of Whatevertheplayersthinkisfineville. They live by their rules, and not by yours.
What would WoW's goal be in banning me .. to enforce a rule setup to protect against this kind of thing, thereby acting as a blanket deterrent to other would-be offenders of their carefully worded EULA and ToS documents. I don't think they care much why you are doing it, again they are not holding a court of WoW to ban you, it is time to call in the Blizzard Cleric. (that's a movie reference, if you didn't get it, I'm sad for you)
So, if you are indeed starting fresh and contemplating new accounts, best be on your way to the store to grab some more accounts in YOUR name first, lest you dismiss our warnings and lose all the accounts associated.
crowdx
11-06-2009, 03:04 PM
on the account sharing, my name is on all the accounts, it is just that one is my wife's primary play account, so if Blizzard does look at the accounts they will see it is the same owner.
As for healing, with 3 lvl 70s I would think with my lvl 80 druid I should be able to run the lower level Northrend instances, my druid is feral spec with mostly Nax epics.
Can anyone link the Disc spec for a priest which would work best?
Coltimar
11-06-2009, 03:23 PM
Fur is on the other side of the flame? Actually sticking up for someone? I think he is letting someone play his (forum) account.
Sam DeathWalker
11-06-2009, 03:27 PM
I was just looking this all up myself last night. I dont understand the part about Chain Heal only hitting members of your group.
So if you are in BG, which I guess is a raid which for some reason my guys enter as a group but get all switched to other groups, I don't know why.
So my shaman is assisting the tank and has a enemy on target and they cast CH? So I think they cast on themselves but then does it bounce to anyone in the raid who has the lowest HP and is in range of jump (12 feet I thinks) or does it just stay in the group they happen to be in?
And when I am not in a BG/raid it will only jump to people in the same group when targeting an enemy?
I also cannot understand why you would get a priest and not get Circle of Healing .....
I guess I have to turn on the battle log and sort this out.
Raskaz
11-06-2009, 03:52 PM
If I had to choose between a priest and a shaman healer - I'd take the shaman. Totems are so useful, especially the cleansing one. Ofc they're both viable but after having run with both for quite some time the shaman wins on my part.
Jubber
11-06-2009, 04:56 PM
Fur is on the other side of the flame? Actually sticking up for someone? I think he is letting someone play his (forum) account.
Lol I know right. He's still account sharing so he's taking a risk by letting his wife play his accounts. However that is another thread and topic altogether as he has clarified his accounts are all under his name so on with his question.
A shaman in your group will open up more gear options also. So not alot of competition for cloth gear. Not that your priest had much competition on healing gear anyways.
Multibocks
11-06-2009, 05:28 PM
After playing both I would say priest is more powerful for a group healing, but they really suck for cleansing (shamans its just a totem you gotta remember to drop). That said, I really enjoy healing on my priest.
heyaz
11-06-2009, 06:45 PM
You know you guys could've just asked him if the accounts were in his name before you derailed the entire thread. Good lord.
Jubber
11-06-2009, 07:44 PM
Doesn't look like it was derailed. He was informed of the possible implications of his actions and his question was still answered. He then clarified his earlier statement with the help of Fur's questioning. Still getting his question answered.
Ualaa
11-06-2009, 08:09 PM
If you don't have at least one shaman on the team, I'd go with a Resto shaman as a healer over a priest.
You gain Heroism, which is huge for any boss type fight.
You gain configurable buffs via the totems which is nice.
Water Walking is a toy, but it speeds you up on occasion.
Water Breathing is extremely nice the few times you go underwater (although a Lock can do the same).
Earth Shield can be very nice.
However a priest has superior group heals and (along with a druid) is a much better mobile healer.
If the team already has another shaman on it, the priest has my vote.
I prefer Discipline too.
If the team is all priests, dip into shadow for Mind Flay.
But with a dedicated healer, dedicated tank and 3x dps, go more along these lines: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#bE0bhhhVRIsffRtfx0c:AbfVzc
crowdx
11-06-2009, 08:24 PM
Thank you all for all your help. My next task will be to setup my healer to single target heal :) , I am thinking most of the healing will be to my 80 druid but I think I will also need to be able to move to another target for random heals. ISBoxer I think makes this pretty easy to do.
Sam DeathWalker
11-06-2009, 08:30 PM
Ok Bloodlust ....
accretion
11-06-2009, 09:15 PM
Priest
STA, SPI & Shadow resist buffs
More/better AoE healing
Better large single target heal
Disease cleansing
Infusion and Guardian Spirit can be handy
Shaman
Superior DPS & resist buffs
Better passive healing (totem + ES)
Heroism & Elementals
Cleansing totem
Wipe recovery
From my experience, a Priest healer is a great choice for groups that already have a Shaman. However, a Shaman just offers so much to a group that it's hard to make a case for anyone else in most circumstances.
*edit - Bah, Ualaa stole most of my thunder due to my dinner interruption =P
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