ISBoxer and Windows 7 x64

[Xtremepayne]

I was successful in getting Innerspace and ISBoxer to run in W7 x64 with one exception. Windows Layout. At the moment all windows I launch are loading on the main screen and at full screen. none go to the 2nd screen at 1/4 screen size. They also won't respond to rolling between each IS screen. All are in windowed mode and ingame shows custom resolution. I did import my profile from XP64. Could that be part of my problem. Need help.

[burningforce]

not sure if the import function works in isboxer. What I did was save my window setup to an .xml file, erase isboxer config, and open the saved windows .xml file in notepad. Copy all that is in notepad, in isboxer right-click "window layouts" and paste. should give you the same config you had in xp. if that does not work in the regions part, where it says "pre-defined compter", click that and choose "current computer".

if that does not work, then you may have to just bite the bullet and redo your windows config. It does not take that long and there is a wizard for it "auto layout" to help you

[Xtremepayne]

I have tried what you suggested and still Innerspace is not working correctly. I also tried what Lax has on his webpages concerning W7. I tried to run it on both XP and Vista compatiablity with no luck. I am not sure of what else to try.
I have also tried building thru IS boxer from the beginning. I have also discovered that Key repeating isn't work either. All boxes for Dx10 are unchecked as well as full screen is unchecked.
Display is set at 2 monitors with the 24in being the main and a 19in as the 2nd monitor. I have even put all turbine launches in compatiabilty mode. I have tried pre-defined and current computer. Still nothing. IS windows launch but after that no windowsnapper nor keyrepeating. Could it be possible that I will have to install these manually? I can still play under XP64 with no issues at all. I am open to suggestions on what to try next.

[EvoX]

I just downloaded ISBoxer on Win7 64-bit and began configuring yesterday. I too ran into some issues at first, but mine was that the 2nd monitor's windows weren't aligning correctly (they were offsetting in the X-). Since I'd been using Keyclone in the past, I just set up and exported the .max files from there, imported them into ISBoxer's Window Layout and all was good.

[EvoX]

To make your own maximizer config file, open notepad and copy/paste. Here's the text out of mine for editing with some explanation below it:

D,1,600
R,'region1','\\.\DISPLAY1',0,0,1280,1024,(112.0),( 800x600),0
R,'region2','\\.\DISPLAY2',0,0,640,512,(0.0),(-1x-1),0
R,'region3','\\.\DISPLAY2',640,0,640,512,(0.0),(-1x-1),0
R,'region4','\\.\DISPLAY2',0,512,640,512,(0.0),(-1x-1),0
R,'region5','\\.\DISPLAY2',640,512,640,512,(0.0),(-1x-1),0



#
# DELETE FROM THIS LINE DOWN IF COPY & PASTED:
# ADJUST NUMBERS TO SUIT YOUR MONITOR SETUP, SAVE AS # "filename.max" FORMAT IN YOUR ISBOXER FOLDER.
#
# 0,0 in Region 1 is the X,Y coordinate of the upper left corner of the
# window
#
# 1280,1024 is the window size
#
# (112.0) I believe is the framerate cap
#
# (800x600) is the game resolution within the window

[Lax]

I was successful in getting Innerspace and ISBoxer to run in W7 x64 with one exception. Windows Layout. At the moment all windows I launch are loading on the main screen and at full screen. none go to the 2nd screen at 1/4 screen size. They also won't respond to rolling between each IS screen. All are in windowed mode and ingame shows custom resolution. I did import my profile from XP64. Could that be part of my problem. Need help.
You probably simply need to create a new window layout. Your screen layout (how your monitors are set up next to each other) according to Windows probably changed in the upgrade, and what ISBoxer had stored as your PC's screen layout is no longer correct. Simply creating a New Window Layout will solve this problem, or you can modify your existing window layout -- start by selecting "<Current Computer>" from the drop-down box on the Regions panel that says "<Pre-defined Computer>" (note that after changing it, you have defined it, and the next time you open the Regions panel again it will return to saying <Pre-defined Computer>)


I just downloaded ISBoxer on Win7 64-bit and began configuring yesterday. I too ran into some issues at first, but mine was that the 2nd monitor's windows weren't aligning correctly (they were offsetting in the X-). Since I'd been using Keyclone in the past, I just set up and exported the .max files from there, imported them into ISBoxer's Window Layout and all was good.
You can type in the numbers yourself in the ISBoxer fields if you like. Making a .max file was probably the long route :)

I'm not sure I follow what you're saying though. I understand you're suggesting there's a bug in ISBoxer, but I don't know what it would be without more information. I am going to assume for now that it's the same thing as the original poster

[Xtremepayne]

I did create a new layout, infact I created a whole new profile from scratch, Using the wizard. UAC is turned off as well. But I will try it again

[Lax]

Unless you have font sizes changed in Windows it should do everything correctly. I've noticed that changing the font size in Windows does some weird things

[Xtremepayne]

Ok, I tried it creating a new one and still no luck. I even went to just one monitor with 2 smaller IS beneath them. It failed as well.

[Xtremepayne]

I will try to contact you once I get setup at work on the laptop. Even though the problem is at home I can chat with you on irc

[Xtremepayne]

what is the font size that IS knows. I haven't messed with any fonts. In fact I still running on what windows auto detected when it installed.
At this point is there anyone who has gotten W7 to work with Innerspace and Lotro? I am using W7 x64 ultimate.

[Lax]

It's in the Accessibility control panel, or whatever it is now, and it's a magnification factor, not "a font size that IS knows". So if you have bad eyes and have Windows magnify the font size by 200%, Windows is going to do some funny things that include reporting the wrong monitor size.

[suicidesspyder]

I had a similar problem till i realized on the computer i went to personalized and display settings. There i just made sure both monitors were active and working. Then i closed out innerspace and isboxer. Reopened them and it worked. Not to get your hopes up but give that a go maybe it will work maybe it wont, at this point anything is better then nothing right.

[Xtremepayne]

I took a look at it but I couldn't find a place to disable it in Ease of Access. I will check it out further when I get home tonight. When I read your post I was about 30 minutes from heading out the door to go to work, so I didn't have a lot of time to go turn the service off. I did see it however what your referring to.
As for the monitors I have tried with both Windows 7 and also Nvidia settings and neither make a difference

[Xtremepayne]

Turned off magnifier and also went with just 1 monitor and then back to 2 again. No joy.

[Xtremepayne]

Here is the link to my ISBoxer Profile if that helps http://pastebin.com/m4fb57619

[Lax]

Well, if the screens in the Window Layout regions panel are the right size and position, then this is probably specifically related to LOTRO + Win 7, so I will have to specifically test LOTRO on Win 7 in order to solve this problem. I imagine I might need to make a change to how IS is overriding LOTRO's stupid window centering crap. That has to be one of the dumbest features anyone ever put in a game.

[Xtremepayne]

While surfing at work I keep coming back from time to time to check your site for updated information on W7 and Lotro. Well I found something in one of your sentences that I had not done. Per your guide I missed this sentence.

" Windows Vista and Windows 7 both come with DirectX 8, 9 and 10. However, they do not ship with the periodic updates to DirectX 9"

I did not run the updates so when I get home I will run those updates and see if it make a difference. I am also going to post the link Lax provided here so that I can find it faster and also for anyone else who hasn't done this step.

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=2da43d38-db71-4c1b-bc6a-9b6652cd92a3&displaylang=en

I will post my results after I apply this. Hope it works :)

[Cixelsyd]

I rin Win 7 64-bit and had no issues getting ISBoxer working. After the OS was installed I ran clean installs of InnerSpace and then ISBoxer. I the restored my .xml configurations from backu and I was off and running. I also ran the installs with UAC completely turned off. Hope this helps. Oh, I also installed the DirectX 9c package.

[Xtremepayne]

Cixelsyd, you be da man!, That was it. To be specific, Installed the Dx9c package. And I know Lax, Crazy eh? I am not sure yet if I am having issues with window resizing and keymapping. need time to play with it more to find out. But on initial try it wasn't seeing my g15 keys correctly.

[Lax]

Inner Space and/or the game should have declined to run, and popped up a message box asking you to install it, if the DirectX update was missing. Since you specified that you "installed the dx9c package" I'm unclear on whether you used the DirectX updater (as you linked, which is not actually "directx 9.0c", note that the link says August 2009 and directx 9.0c came out in August 2004), or whether you actually downloaded DirectX 9.0c.

It wouldn't surprise me if running the DirectX updater helped though.

[Xtremepayne]

When I ran the updater which I did try first it said I was up to date and files updated. But then I read his post and ran that link I posted if that helps you in the steps I took.

[Tokae]

Hey All,

I have a WoW user who is running Innerspace and ISBoxer on a Windows 7 pro machine. He has 5 accounts running and periodically it crashes. He gets the memory dump and a 132 error. Is there something perhaps he overlooked when installing it? Im not much of a WoW player and I dont know the inside and outs of this process. I figured his PC was more than adequate spec-wise.. Any help at all would be greatly appreciated!

his pc:

i7 920 @ 2.67 ghz
6 gb mushkin 1333mhz ddr3 ram
nvidia 285 gtx gpu

windows is updated
nvidia drivers are the latest non beta version
even his BIOS is up to date.

Once again any help would be greatly appreciated.. He just wants to play!

[Otlecs]

The most common response to error #132 is to grab a dedicated memory checker (like Memtest86 (http://www.memtest86.com/) and run the full suite of tests.

90% of the time it's a slightly flakey chunk of memory, something you'll run into more often with a heavily (memory) loaded system.

In the first instance, run Blizzard's repair utility though. It's in the WoW directory. You don't have to let it reset your macros and bindings - just have it check the consistency of your files.

[Tokae]

The most common response to error #132 is to grab a dedicated memory checker (like Memtest86 (http://www.memtest86.com/) and run the full suite of tests.

90% of the time it's a slightly flakey chunk of memory, something you'll run into more often with a heavily (memory) loaded system.

In the first instance, run Blizzard's repair utility though. It's in the WoW directory. You don't have to let it reset your macros and bindings - just have it check the consistency of your files.

Hey Oltecs!

Thanks for the quick response..

I had first thought that he was having memory issues, I downloaded memtest86+ v4 which is a bootable iso for 64 bit systems.. I checked all the sticks individually and found 1 bad stick.. I yanked 3 total (so he has his current 6 gb triple channel setup) and he still is getting the error.. I will get him to run the repair ultility tonight also.. So other than this person's issues, windows 7 64 bit is running this software without any problems?

[Tokae]

Hey guys..

Well I yanked out his old ram and installed 3 new sticks of DDR3 so he has 6 gb in triple channel again.. He went to run the program and it crapped out again, so I am ruling out memory issues... All his software is up to date.. I havent tried the reinstall of directx 9c yet though.. Im just wondering if there is anything else to look at/for?

[moosejaw]

I know this sounds simplistic but I have experienced crashes in wow from having fragmented files. I would first wipe the cache then defrag to fix the issue.
Last week I had a raid drive starting to fail that also caused repeated crashes on just one instance. If running a raid setup check for degredation of any raid volumes.

Edit: I have windows home server that runs nightly backups so I don't lose anything if a Raid0 fails.

[burningforce]

i only get error 132's when I am flying on a flight path an I switch to another character. or I get an error when I log out all at the same time.

so basically I just go afk until i reach my destination on the flight path then switch characters for whatever reason I wanted to.

ran memtest+(10 passes and no errors),defragged, ran wow repair, disbaled addons, checked bios settings and changed a few memory related issues, still nothing seems to work.

[moosejaw]

That sounds like a Directx or video driver issue. I wonder if lowering the graphic settings to the complete minimum on all would have a different result. Maybe try another video card for testing.

Another test would be set them all up on one monitor and see if switching in flight still kills it.

There is the M$ directx link above to make sure it is completely installed.

[burningforce]

That sounds like a Directx or video driver issue. I wonder if lowering the graphic settings to the complete minimum on all would have a different result. Maybe try another video card for testing.

Another test would be set them all up on one monitor and see if switching in flight still kills it.

There is the M$ directx link above to make sure it is completely installed.

thanks i'll check the link and try to put all on 1 monitor and see if I can reproduce the problem

[Tokae]

thanks for some new things to try out.. I have memtested the ram.. its fine.. I even swapped my ati card in place of his nvidia.. the in flight issue may be the same thing for him! I will ask him about that.. Lax have you experienced anything like these issues?

[Tokae]

thanks for some new things to try out.. I have memtested the ram.. its fine.. I even swapped my ati card in place of his nvidia.. the in flight issue may be the same thing for him! I will ask him about that.. Lax have you experienced anything like these issues?

Well after running with the ati card for over a week now, he seems to have crashes like once a day at most.. It seems that the nvidia card just couldnt manage the 5 games at once.

[Lax]

No, I haven't experienced your issue because my PC isn't busted ;) My PC does occasionally overheat, because it is a beast and I don't really have sufficient cooling, so I do get some hard lockups once in a while when multiboxing if I don't point a fan at it.

I didn't even look at this thread because it's an old thread that Xtremepayne started to get help fixing an issue that appeared with LOTRO. The title is misleading, we don't need a thread for everyone to post in that uses Windows 7 and ISBoxer. So please, for the next guy, create a new thread if you're having a problem, even if you're using Windows 7 ;)

[Xtremepayne]

Sorry Lax, Next time I will put more thought into title.Also feel free to delete this thread if needed. OH, I still have that problem, but I instead stayed with xp64 till I could find out what I was either doing wrong or not doing right.

[alcattle]

It was suggested that you run WoWrepair.exe, it will check for bad files. Backup your WTF folder (it might do it for you) and see what happens. I had to do it twice but it has not crashed in a week or so.

[heyaz]

Unless you have font sizes changed in Windows it should do everything correctly. I've noticed that changing the font size in Windows does some weird things

What kind of weird things? I have mine bumped up to like 140dpi

[Rostig]

installed windows 7 on my laptop a couple of days ago, and i cant get ISboxer to export to my other computer.
everything is installed the right way cos it all works fine on windows xp. and i also know i have the right setup for multiple computers.. anyways, id appriciate any help:)
Here is a screenshoot of what happens when i try to export the isboxer profile to my other computer


http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/7786/capturerl.png - translated ;)

EDIT
Got isboxer to export and connect to the other computer. I just changed my other computers name and change the language, connected, then changed back to swe. My other computer had Ä in its name, but this was no problem when i ran windows XP.

[suicidesspyder]

Here is my problem. I posted a ss of it i dont understand never had this problem with vista or anything.
I just dont get how its not picking up wow or anything any help getting this resolved is awesome. Thanks again. Oh and the previous post by rostig mine for some odd reason said that when i ignored the warning below not sure if its related thanks.

file:///C:/Users/Jay/AppData/Local/Temp/moz-screenshot.pnghttp://i511.photobucket.com/albums/s356/himynamesisjay/errorisboxer.png

[Xtremepayne]

To get a faster reply go to www.isboxer.com (http://www.isboxer.com)

Lax now has a webpage with links to his forums and also Internet Relay Chat channel where you can enter a chat room and get support from him and others. He also has video guides as well.