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Velassra
10-18-2009, 12:31 AM
Oh man I'm mad. I'm having trouble w/ the first boss even at lvl 74.

I got him to about 33% best attempt of 5. I can't keep enough damage on him, while trying to manage the frosttombs.

I think I've at least kept the skeletons on the tank, but th FT's arent going down fast enough. As soon as I get 1 down, he's back up w/ another, 50% chance it's on the same one.

Mana seems to be a big issue, early.
Paladin, Holy Priest and 3 Affliction locks.

Jubber
10-18-2009, 01:23 AM
What are you using for pets? if you are using all imps maybe try using the felhunter instead for this fight. have a macro

/petattack [target=frost tomb,exists][harm]

Also I find it easier to run my guys to the left and keep my tank between them and kel to grab adds. Then stack my guys together and not spread them out. saves time on my guys targeting the frost tomb.

Velassra
10-18-2009, 01:33 AM
What are you using for pets? if you are using all imps maybe try using the felhunter instead for this fight. have a macro

/petattack [target=frost tomb,exists][harm]

Also I find it easier to run my guys to the left and keep my tank between them and kel to grab adds. Then stack my guys together and not spread them out. saves time on my guys targeting the frost tomb.

as far as pets, been using succubi (for melee and random seduces on the humanoids) on 2 locks and 1 w/ the Imp (for the health buff).

/target Frost Tomb
/petattack

on all but the tank, as a seperate macro.

Now I don't know if adding Corruption on that will help much.
Once out of the FT I can Hellfire x3 to rid f skeletons, but that puts me way down on mana, w/o much/any time b4 he drops the next FT. I was thinking on my next attempt, forget Hellfire and just Seed himx3 to take care of skeletons?

Idk, mana seems to be the biggest issue other than dropping FT fast enough.

Khatovar
10-18-2009, 02:06 AM
For him I tend to use Frost res aura on my pally, helps a bit with healing. Holy Wrath does a number on the skellies, and you can cast Searing Pain on the Frost Tombs for fast cast, decent damage and low mana cost. If you really, really need to assist in taking down skellies, I'd suggest RoF on round robin or just seeding so you're not making matters worse for your healer.

Velassra
10-18-2009, 02:23 AM
For him I tend to use Frost res aura on my pally, helps a bit with healing. Holy Wrath does a number on the skellies, and you can cast Searing Pain on the Frost Tombs for fast cast, decent damage and low mana cost. If you really, really need to assist in taking down skellies, I'd suggest RoF on round robin or just seeding so you're not making matters worse for your healer.


Thanks, I'll give that a try. A couple good suggestions there.

Raigirin
10-18-2009, 05:44 AM
UK is the one instance that has caused me the most problems so far.
Literally made me retire my hunter dps team.

Is it doable to gear up in other Northrend instances first?

Niley
10-18-2009, 09:26 AM
Is it doable to gear up in other Northrend instances first?

yep, IN the day wotlk came out i cleared with my team ~20 times, then moved over to nexus at 71.

Naysayer
10-18-2009, 10:53 AM
Oh man I'm mad. I'm having trouble w/ the first boss even at lvl 74.

I got him to about 33% best attempt of 5. I can't keep enough damage on him, while trying to manage the frosttombs.

I think I've at least kept the skeletons on the tank, but th FT's arent going down fast enough. As soon as I get 1 down, he's back up w/ another, 50% chance it's on the same one.

Mana seems to be a big issue, early.
Paladin, Holy Priest and 3 Affliction locks.

you could stack on top of the prince and aoe to do this boss. keep dots on him and rain of fire while the pally keeps consecrate up. The ice tomb and skell adds will drop in seconds and with all that shadow resist your group offers this boss should be cake. If mana is an issue for you, pop a renew on each warlock before you aggro the prince and life tap after the first few spells you cast. Make a macro to life tap and eat a healthstone. If you're affliction, did you not spec dark pact? If your priest is the one having mana issues i'm not sure how to help other than to wonder what stats you're gearing him with and to say try and stay in the 5 second rule as much as possible with big heals and no spamming.

Eggy
10-18-2009, 11:09 AM
Main problem isnt really the ice tombs imo, allways been the adds for me. So, with my shamans i put down fire elemental totems when i was leveling and that took care of that. With my mixed group i just used rains(mage/druid/lock) when they spawned, pretty sure you can do the same with your locks :P

Greythan
10-18-2009, 12:35 PM
I think its safe to say that whatever Niley believes to be standard is beyond the reach of us mere mortals.

Niley
10-18-2009, 05:02 PM
I think its safe to say that whatever Niley believes to be standard is beyond the reach of us mere mortals.
You mean farming him on 2 teams from 70-71? o.O Which a lot of us have done, same with clearing all of other instances.
Its all goes down to practice, watch Hachoo strats and you should be ok, adds shouldn't go anywhere but tank for example, you just need to position correctly.
its even all of my toons achievements, cleared UK 22 times on normal.

Jubber
10-18-2009, 08:42 PM
Is it just me or are the mobs in H UK harder than the bosses.. I seem to wipe at least three or four times to mobs but always down the bosses in 1 go. And I really hate the bugged out Dragon rider before the final boss.. sometimes he will land and sometimes he won't and he will just go to town on my teams due to a glitch where if he doesn't land I can't touch him.

Bigfish
10-18-2009, 11:46 PM
Frost Aura and Prayer of Shadow Protection. I don't know if you are doing it or not, but don't DoT the tombs. Just Shadow Bolt them or something. I would think Holy Nova/Hellfire would also work to clear up the tombs.


You mean farming him on 2 teams from 70-71? o.O Which a lot of us have done, same with clearing all of other instances.
Its all goes down to practice, watch Hachoo strats and you should be ok, adds shouldn't go anywhere but tank for example, you just need to position correctly.
its even all of my toons achievements, cleared UK 22 times on normal.

Out of curiousity, what are your teams, and do you consider the group make-up of others? I mean , the nature of the beast is that we all set things up a bit differently, which means difficulties will vary from encounter to encounter. Barring the tried and true "Throw shamans at it".

My thoughts are that there are about a dozen different factors that can cause road-blocks, from macros that need re-worked, to group synergy, to proper itemization, to talents, etc etc. Its more than just a matter of people having already done it, so it should come naturally to any who follow.

Niley
10-19-2009, 12:10 AM
paladin/3 shamans/warlock <- main team
Dk/3 warlocks/priest <-up and coming team

of course every set up differs, even my own set up for my main team in past almost 3 years changed at least 5 or 6 times.

Stealthy
10-19-2009, 03:08 AM
Some tips for this boss:

- Frost resist aura for the pally, shadow protection from the priest.
- The boss doesnt do any AoE, so stack your followers on the boss as well.
- AoE frost tombs down - consecration from pally and RoF from locks. If you're stacked on the boss, the AoE will also damage boss & skellies.
- Cleanse decrepify if cast on tank, ignore on the others (it's a str & movement debuff only)
- Pallies can DS out of frost tomb in emergencies - just remembet to cancel it straight away, becuase the boss will pound your alts while it's up.

Whats the gear/spec like on your toons? Can you link armories for them? This guy should be pretty easy for a level 74, so not sure why you're struggling without more info...

Cheers,
S.