View Full Version : Issues with Vista
Bongo2k
07-07-2007, 06:25 PM
I have multibox setup and working on both my machines, it works fine on my xp machine but as soon as i switch to my vista machine(server) the mouse disconnects every few seconds and jumps back to my xp machine. I can still use both computers fine, its just damn annoying jumping from one to the other.
NB: I have multiplicity installed, i can remove if it is causing problems...
Any idea's?
Uninstall Vista and install a real operating system?
Bongo2k
07-07-2007, 07:08 PM
Blizzard havent released a Linux WoW Client :)
Seriously though, any idea's?
Use WINE or Cedega to play WoW in linux :) ?
Bongo2k
07-07-2007, 07:19 PM
I just wanted a solution to my problem, and i didnt get one, thanks...
Well - I can't wave a magic wand and fix it. Try to remove the things that may be causing the problem and test it again. Perhaps multibox does not like Vista. Remove it. If you have to have it, modify the source. If you can/don't want to then find an alternative solution. It was written for XP. Can you use XP?
Bongo2k
07-07-2007, 07:24 PM
Well i didnt BUY vista so i could use xp...
I didn't BUY Vista either :)
XP > Vista.
No DX10 games available now.
Aero is useless.
Vista wastes resources.
32 Bit Native
BOTCHED job of hardware support.
Drives still lacking.
Etc, etc.
But, I respect your decision to use it. But just be aware that some applications (like multibox) may have issues with the way Vista handles mouse interaction. Try Synergy and see if you have the same problems. If not, then rewrite Multibox to support Vista - it is open source.
Or pay somebody to do so - or beg the current maintainer to add it. I wish I could help you further - I don't use that application personally.
Runiat
07-07-2007, 08:23 PM
Well i didnt BUY vista so i could use xp...
Then why did you?
I mean, a hybrid harddrive, 64 bit CPU, or dx10 graphics are all good reasons to get Vista, but atm Vista is bugging up Vista (seriously, it keeps telling me that it'll shut down processes that aren't working, while they are in fact working as long as you ignore the message) so if it didn't mean changing my harddrive, loosing a few hours of battery time, I'd try installing my old laptop's XP..
And there's the graphics.
Other than that I believe I read somewhere that Multibox didn't like Vista so that'll be it. Problem sounds like the one I heard of. Try Synergy instead.
EDIT: OK so I wasn't first to post this.. ah well, bit about the hybrid harddrive still goes, only having to turn it on for a second every few mins really helps.
Ehh - I have solid state hard drive. With Vista and with Ubuntu, Ubuntu runs FAR FAR longer than Vista.
Not a hybrid hard drive but uhh... not sure I see an advantage of a hybrid drive when a solid state drive can hold 32 - 64 gigs of data, use 2-8% less battery life and be silent - AND - generate less heat.
Ok - so it costs more right now but still. Economy of scale.
Runiat
07-07-2007, 09:34 PM
Solid state is one of them all-flash harddrives?
Yeah.. I saw a 30 GB one of those for $5k and decided to use that money to get through college instead. Computer parts, as well as everything else, are quite expensive in Denmark compared to pretty much anywhere but Iceland.
Now I could just put anything I'm likely to use while on battery on my memory stick (8 GB bought in the USA for hardly anything) but really not handy to have anything sticking out.
Well, yes. They are all flash hard drives. Some rugged / commercial / military units are $5k or more. The parent company of EVE Online uses them to run their server. Ultra fast, no seek delay, less (but not as much as some people will have you believe) power use. No moving parts.
But you can get them for far less than $5k. A 32 gig one runs about $500 right now and prices are plummeting.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147015
http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/20-147-015-02.jpg
Otlecs
07-08-2007, 07:16 AM
*skips over all the unhelpful "my OS is better than yours" crap*
I run five machines at home. When they're running Windows (which is all the time I'm gaming), three of them are XP Pro and two are Vista Home Premium.
I use Multiplicity, which works perfectly across all of them.
I also run an unmodified Multibox.
The only problem I've ever had manifested itself as client connection lag, followed by client disconnect. I wrote about this somewhere else, but ultimately solved it by simply making entries for all machines in the host file for each individual machine.
In short, I have a mixed Windows configuration and haven't had the problems you've had, which isn't a great deal of help other than reassuring you that there's nothing inherently wrong with your setup, despite what people may have you believe.
The big difference is that my SERVER machine runs XP. I only use Vista clients. I couldn't say if the server runs under Vista, but I'll have a play with that when I get home.
Do you have an XP box that you can run the server on?
Otlecs
07-08-2007, 08:06 AM
Ok, I'm home now and did a quick experiment with the server running under Vista.
Keyboard broadcasting works with no problem. Mouse broadcasting does not. The hotkeys for enabling/disabling broadcasting don't seem to work either - the keys are just passed straight through and never recognised as hotkeys.
So it does look like you're going to run into problems with running the Multibox server on Vista. Unless you're motivated and able to fix it yourself, it looks like you'll have to find another solution even if you work through your current problem.
rieperx
07-09-2007, 06:15 AM
There was already a post about this exact problem on the boards. I can't seem to find it but I know I saw it. They said the same thing Otlecs did the XP machine worked as the server but Vista does not.
Bongo2k
07-09-2007, 03:19 PM
Modified Synergy works fine, no such problems at all.
sewid
07-10-2007, 12:12 AM
Just signed up. Very interesting forum you guys have here been reading it a lot.
Anyway I have been playing with dual boxing lately and went through Synergy and then Mutibox. All my machines are Vista and I don't have a single problem. I run a Vista multibox server to Vista multibox clients no problems. I bound the backtick "`" as my broadcast toggle and that is working.
Im using the Multibox modified version linked on these forums.
Mouse broadcasting is working too but I do not use it so it may have some unknown caveats.
Multibox does seem to require that I add host entries for every PC but after that everything was fine.
rieperx
07-10-2007, 12:47 AM
I don't have vista yet but my multibox worked no problem wihtout host entries. My new rig is vista but that hasn't arrived yet once it does i can start my 3x shamans :D
Uninstall Vista and install a real operating system?
Seriously now, that is quite a biased and frankly sad statement.
Use WINE or Cedega to play WoW in linux :) ?
While it can work lets not forget to mention that Linux simply just doesn't do gaming without jumping through allot of hoops and presents allot of over head not found elsewhere. And I don't see how suggesting a user move to something so complicated when they are having issues resolving a much easier issue is much of a solution.
It seems your bias against Vista is over riding some common sense in this regard. Vista is fine for gaming regardless of some peoples opinions and while Linux is great and has its uses lets be honest in that gaming is not one of them outside of certain people who are very dedicated and have the time and knowledge to commit to setting up and maintaining such a configuration.
Well i didnt BUY vista so i could use xp...
Synergy works fine under Vista.
*skips over all the unhelpful "my OS is better than yours" crap*
I run five machines at home. When they're running Windows (which is all the time I'm gaming), three of them are XP Pro and two are Vista Home Premium.
I use Multiplicity, which works perfectly across all of them.
I also run an unmodified Multibox.
The only problem I've ever had manifested itself as client connection lag, followed by client disconnect. I wrote about this somewhere else, but ultimately solved it by simply making entries for all machines in the host file for each individual machine.
In short, I have a mixed Windows configuration and haven't had the problems you've had, which isn't a great deal of help other than reassuring you that there's nothing inherently wrong with your setup, despite what people may have you believe.
The big difference is that my SERVER machine runs XP. I only use Vista clients. I couldn't say if the server runs under Vista, but I'll have a play with that when I get home.
Do you have an XP box that you can run the server on?
Exactly, the amount of biased "fanboyish" crap given in this thread is laughable. He asked if anyone knew how to resolve his issues under Vista and instead of not saying anything at all or suggesting he not use Multibox which doesn't work under Vista in my experience and using Synergy instead everyone wants to suggest he forget the money he just spent and go buy what they think he should run instead regardless of how far off point they are being or the even further level of difficulty they are presenting to the user.
Why not just suggest he buy a Mac, it give the stability and security of Linux without spending all of ones time configuring something to run while taking a performance hit due to the overhead... and oh yeah it runs natively.
vBulletin® v4.2.2, Copyright ©2000-2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.