New Poll: what software key replication software do people use

[Simulacra]

What software key replication tool do people use - new poll as I didn't have enough options on the old one and the results were unclear

If you select any of the 'other' options could you please post what you use.

Other - PC should read Other - Windows

[Redbeard]

Voted.

I own both keyclone and ISboxer, but am currently using ISboxer.

[Moorea]

I own(*) keyclone but I use HKN most


*: "license"

[Simulacra]

Voted.

I own both keyclone and ISboxer, but am currently using ISboxer.

I own(*) keyclone but I use HKN most


*: "license"

These are the kind of responses I'm interested in as you've tried KC but moved to something else. So why HKN/ISBoxer over Keyclone? Is part of that the license?

[antishadow]

You forgot Plexter the new one for the mac (and the best one for the mac by far)

[Moorea]

The main reason I switched from keyclone to hkn is better mouse broadcasting support

also I'm a sucker for scripting languages and total control

[Bettysue]

I started with KC and switched to HKN. I switched because I was interested in mouse broadcasting that KC did not support very well at the time. I also liked the idea that once I made a good script for myself it was easy to modify for new groups, or even computer changes. I travel a lot and use a work laptop and a personal slimline pc with a hotel tv as a monitor usually. The ability to use several machines without buying a key or dealing with transfers everytime I got a new laptop was a serious benefit as well.

Scripting is a personal hobby of mine, which also made HKN attractive, but for a purely personal reason, so I would have to say it's a reason I stay with HKN but not a reason I left KC.

Anything free is nice, but KC, IS/ISBoxer, and GCP all provide a product worth way more than you pay, so while key requirements were a consideration the cost was not.

[Khatovar]

I moved from Keyclone to HKN because mouse broadcasting never worked right in Keyclone and was really hurting my warlock and boomkin, and HKN also allowed me to set up mouseover healing/curing.

I also have a current Innerspace sub, but I just don't have any interest in adding more recurring subscriptions to my credit card.

[EaTCarbS]

HotKeyNet from the beginning... I love the control you have when you write your own script =)

[alcattle]

I started with HKN but found it was hard to get FTL and my mind to act alike. Also it seemed like I was always writing macros.
Tested GCP and IS. GCP was easy but seems to like macros. IS I only have to set the action bars for a toon and there it goes. I have been able to run a Quick Wizard set up in 45 seconds ( I type slow);) . Most everything I need for now.

[Redbeard]

Only issue with KC is the mouse broadcasting and the speed of PiP switching for me.

Other than that, KC is great. Thats why im using ISBoxer currently.

[Conquistador]

I´m going to use Octopus for the software key replication, heard good things about this software and it seems it´s really easy to setup.

[zanthor]

Started with AutoHotKey, moved to KeyClone (Bought 5 licenses), tried HotKeyNet, and finally moved to IS / ISBoxer due to PIP speed and mouse broadcast... and now it's easier than any of them to setup :).

[Feider]

Voted. Clone(d)Keys I can't wait to try out Plexer though.

[Svpernova09]

Started with Keyclone. Used it for 9-10 months. Been playing with ISBoxer on the side during that time. Fully swapped over to ISBoxer for the mouse support, instant PiP swapping, as well as the flexibility / ease of understanding in keymap creation. As as well stupidly easier configuration changes and WoW Macro integration.

[Jubber]

Started with Keyclone. Then went keyclone+HKN. Now using full HKN. I switched cuz I wanted more flexability and control. Mouse broadcasting works well and pip swapping is great. I hear isboxer is even better but for now HKN is doing everything I need and doing it it well. Plus it's free.

[Los]

Started with kc, still use it now and then, but the mouse broadcasting pushed me to ISboxer

[rocnroll]

It's nice to see that I am not the only one that plays with software. I have bought Keyclone, GCP, IS and I'm currently using HotKeyNet. The support here and on the authors website is impressive. All of these programs have strengths and weaknesses (albiet more from a personal preference). Since I code for a living, I like and dislike macros (somedays you just want it to work and not worry about code, other days, I spend my playtime "tweaking").

I'm glad I found this site, it has given me a fresh perspective on WoW (which was much needed).

[F9thRet]

I voted KEyclone, as it rocks. But My second favorite right now is Gamecommanderpro. Still working on all the set ups.

I have to admit, I have not tried any of the others.

I take it back, I did use Hotkey for awhile when I was dual boxing. I just haven't went back after Key clone. Still all of the code monkeys should get props for what they do in making our Hobby easier to handle.

Stephen

[Simulacra]

I agree, I think it's amazing that there are so many solutions available, I use Keyclone too and haven't tried anything else, I find the plethora of options staggering for a minority group. I'm really surprised at the number of HotKeyNet users, I didn't realise it had that much penetration but I guess it's the nature of our community that we like to code and have control over our environment :) ISBoxer has achieved amazing market penetration in such a short time almost equal with Keyclone (according to the poll).

The poll is still running for a few more days, 55 votes so far which is pretty good, thanks for voting . If you haven't voted yet please do.

[TheBigBB]

Plexer for the Mac

[Simulacra]

And there we are - quite a surprising result. I'd always thought that Keyclone was the leader but clearly the poll shows that the top 3 are ISBoxer/HotKeyNet/Keyclone in that order all within a couple of votes. 77 people voted which is great, thanks very much. I think 77 votes is a reasonable indicator from the community. I would have thought that GameCommanderPro would have had more votes but there you go.

I think that it can determined from the results that there is no clear preferred option for this type of software at the moment.

and the subtext of the poll if it wasn't obvious was: am I using the preferred solution? The answer is: I'm using one of the top 3, am comfortable in the solution, there's no glaring disparity in the user base which indicates that the other solutions aren't offering that much more, so no need to change at present.

I would like to repoll this in 6 months to gauge the trend.

Thanks to everyone who voted :)

[Moorea]

The number of people who voted != the number of user - its a tiny fraction of each user base... so it's more of a popularity contest amongst motivated people than anything else you can draw any conclusions about

[Simulacra]

The number of people who voted != the number of user - its a tiny fraction of each user base... so it's more of a popularity contest amongst motivated people than anything else you can draw any conclusions about

you can say that about any poll, market research or election for that matter. We have them and they have value because the polled, however tiny a fraction of the population they are, give a reasonable indication of the choices made by the whole whether motivated to poll or not.

[Moorea]

No, meaningful opinion polls are "representative", this sample here is not only too small but also self selected thus biased - still fun but not comparable with a real poll

[Slats]

I own Keyclone and have a IS subscription. I am still using KC atm but will probably move away to IS soon - the PiP swapping literally gets me killed in PvP.

I also intend to make a 5x Warlock team at some point so the mouse broadcasting will be pro.

I'll vote KC for now though - a little disappointed this doesn't seem to get the updates that IS does - however I am probably asking alot for my $20 US.

[Simulacra]

No, meaningful opinion polls are "representative", this sample here is not only too small but also self selected thus biased - still fun but not comparable with a real poll
whatever mate

[Bettysue]

Moorea you confuse me more and more every day. It is a real poll that got the real result that provides the real person with the information he was looking for. A poll is designed to provide answers to questions about a particular topic of interest with a wide variety of "correct" answers. Our active community is here is not terribly large, you aren't going to see a poll with 10000 results, so let him deduce what he can from the information gathered.

I was interested to see that all 3 of the big names were so close, GCP is kinda new but I think it would be interesting to see where it stands in the community in 6 months. I think it would be fun to see how many people have switched from one program to another, or use any 2 of them in combination. The poll would literally just ask if you switched or not, not the names of the solution switched to or from to avoid the I'm right you're wrong arguments.

Thanks for posting the poll Simulacra it was suprisingly close.

[Moorea]

Moorea you confuse me more and more every day.
whatever mate :-)

[zanthor]

I own Keyclone and have a IS subscription. I am still using KC atm but will probably move away to IS soon - the PiP swapping literally gets me killed in PvP.

I also intend to make a 5x Warlock team at some point so the mouse broadcasting will be pro.

I'll vote KC for now though - a little disappointed this doesn't seem to get the updates that IS does - however I am probably asking alot for my $20 US.

The key difference is Rob makes his living in IT, not off KeyClone, Lax makes his living off Lavish Software (InnerSpace, his new app, etc).

[keyclone]

there was a poll thread prior to the forum switchover. about 1,000 votes. consistently 80% keyclone. (it was an ongoing poll)

as for hkn being 'so popular'... looks like the hkn forums pumped it up
http://hotkeynet.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1461&p=9910&hilit=poll#p9910

[Simulacra]

there was a poll thread prior to the forum switchover. about 1,000 votes. consistently 80% keyclone. (it was an ongoing poll)

as for hkn being 'so popular'... looks like the hkn forums pumped it up
http://hotkeynet.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1461&p=9910&hilit=poll#p9910

lol - very naughty ha ha

[Clovis]

I own both Keyclone and ISboxer -- I (now) use ISBoxer only.

I switched because I wanted a easy FTL set up. I litterly spent an entire weekend reading post here and trying to wrap my head around it when I saw a post that mentioned IS Boxer -- I saw Lax's video of how easy it is to get the basic set up down and I was hooked.

I think it took about 30 minutes to get most things down and another week of fine tuning a few things but the instant main switching IS Boxers without the use of scripts or hot strings is amazing.

-Clov

[Ualaa]

I started with Keyclone and its a great product.
I've moved to InnerSpace, and it too is a great product.

Keyclone was a lot easier to set up, and that was before a wizard.
The IS wizard demonstrates most of the features, except for repeater mouse regions.
Definitely took a lot longer to get IS running, but it has some exceptionally nice features.

I'd recommend Keyclone for someone new to boxing.
But InnerSpace has some killer features.

[zanthor]

Times are changing, aren't they?

The number of 1 post voters/commenters on the old poll lead me to believe that there was a significant level of encouragement by someone to vote for a specific product... As for the hotkeynet linking to here, they have 25 views of that thread...

[mikekim]

I started out with Keyclone, as it's a great product that is easy to setup and gives you results "straight off the bat". However when I realised that I would be needing simultanious AOE / windows clicks from one click, keyclone did the job but was not quite ant the ease of use that i needed. I therefore now use Hotkeynet and have never looked back.
I would still however recommend Keyclone for people starting out that have no knowledge of basic scripting. HKN can be a bit daunting at first unless you spend a good deal of time reading up on what it can do, but believe me the results are worth it.

[LrdStrahd]

I use Keyclone and have found for me personally an extra piece of hardware does wonders... I use the Logitech G13 game board. it is a small device with programable macros and function keys that allow me to program select items to those keys that i am not already using in keyclone to control both my accounts... it may seem clunky to have another small keyboard but the flexibility it affords me is way worth it.

[Owltoid]

Lol, I love that it's a conspiracy there is mention of this thread on the HKN forums. Yeah, Freddie is a money grubbing software developer that wants to rule the multiboxing community and tirelessly promotes his product to all that will give him $0.

I'm glad to see HKN is this popular. The program is extremely powerful, the support is amazing, and it (obviously) my choice for multiboxing.

[zanthor]

Lol, I love that it's a conspiracy there is mention of this thread on the HKN forums. Yeah, Freddie is a money grubbing software developer that wants to rule the multiboxing community and tirelessly promotes his product to all that will give him $0.

I'm glad to see HKN is this popular. The program is extremely powerful, the support is amazing, and it (obviously) my choice for multiboxing.

First hits free, he's just getting ya hooked, then he'll bait and switch and hold your multiboxing hostage for 1 billion dollars!

[rocnroll]

Its hard to get a real idea of what the percentages are anyway.

So many people buy / use the products, and NEVER post here. Hell, some have never even been to this forum.

You'd have to get Keyclone to give "purchase" number, and Lax to give "subscription" numbers. I don't know how HKN works, but its probably similar.

Or how many of us have bought a subscription and only used it a few times before trying something else? :)

[Ualaa]

Well, ultimately we're lucky in that we have a lot of great choices.

With several programs running (and the option to go the hardware route too), we can pick and choose the product which works best for us.

Each will have various strengths, and over time copy the strongest features into their own program. I remember the FTL thread when it first came out - it used keyclones hotstrings. Now you can FTL with several programs, and even have a wizard in several to do it automatically.

The products all seem to have strong author support, are reasonably priced so you could even sample several if you choose, and many users strongly advocate one product or another indicating most of these programs are high quality.

We have choice and options.

That's a very nice luxury.

[zanthor]

Its hard to get a real idea of what the percentages are anyway.

So many people buy / use the products, and NEVER post here. Hell, some have never even been to this forum.

You'd have to get Keyclone to give "purchase" number, and Lax to give "subscription" numbers. I don't know how HKN works, but its probably similar.

I certainly can't speak for accurate numbers on anyones part, but I've purchased 5 copies of KeyClone, I know two of my coworkers have purchased a copy each...

I know two people (IRL) that have purchased IS Subs and keep them current...

and well...

My Pro subscription expires Friday November 24, 2023 (http://www.lavishsoft.com/account/subscribe.php)

Keep in mind that I purchased 90 days and haven't paid a penny more to IS... the rest of that is referrals 45 days at a time (there was a period that it was 90 days while Lax did a special... but most is 30/45).

[Lax]

there was a poll thread prior to the forum switchover. about 1,000 votes. consistently 80% keyclone. (it was an ongoing poll)

as for hkn being 'so popular'... looks like the hkn forums pumped it up
http://hotkeynet.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1461&p=9910&hilit=poll#p9910


The number of 1 post voters/commenters on the old poll lead me to believe that there was a significant level of encouragement by someone to vote for a specific product...QFT

Speaking of which, there's a new post on that thread, which had all but disappeared from the internet, and no longer even has a poll!

Only used Keyclone, but to me it seems the most updated.

And since it renewed my interest in WoW, paying for it goes to the creator to give him a little love.

[Otlecs]

KC out, IS in for me.

I steered clear of IS in the past because it was always associated with nefarious activities, but had compelling reasons to change lately and haven't looked back.