blizzard spell targeting macro thing

[bob]

Anyone know of a way to place the blizzard (mage spell) targeting circle over your current target without mouse clicking???

ty

[Wulfos]

Unfortunately you have to use your mouse, there is no other possibility.
What you can do is mapping the mouse position to your alt-windows with keyclone or so, but you will still have to position and click the mouse...

[binkiebink]

macro
/target [target=party1target]

[Wilbur]

macro
/target [target=party1target]

...wont work. The spell requires a position to be specified on the screen.

[binkiebink]

l2read the op binkie!

[Wilbur]

You fail at life.

Blizzard - the spell - requires the player to specify the Area he wishes to rain down sexi AOE death upon. You can't just specify "around character 1"

[bob]

would some kind of ahk x/y coordinates thing work?
from my understanding of ahk (all 3 hours of reading lol) you could only have a set coordinate is that true?
any x/y tracking of sorts?
ie on Lmb down ahk uses that x/y value rather that a per-defined value, i dont think that will work...i will keep reading

ty 4 your time

[Wilbur]

Its the most elegent solultion that people have come up with so far.

What most people do is to allign all characters camera angles and then use an AHK key which replicates a click at X, Y, position on each WoW window.

The problems with this are that a) all resolutions need to be the same size,

You can suffer a performance hit when rapidly switching to diffrent windows. So this isn't ideal.

The only real way of doing it appears to be the Wireless Mouse/Reciever option.

[bob]

Its the most elegent solultion that people have come up with so far.

What most people do is to allign all characters camera angles and then use an AHK key which replicates a click at X, Y, position on each WoW window.

The problems with this are that a) all resolutions need to be the same size,

You can suffer a performance hit when rapidly switching to diffrent windows. So this isn't ideal.

The only real way of doing it appears to be the Wireless Mouse/Reciever option.


ty Wilbur

sounds like a job 4 keyclone

[binkiebink]

binkie didnt read the op

[Contents]

Fur, I think it's time for you to get some new monitors. This ghetto rigging thing just doesn't sound pleasant.

[Djarid]

it can be done with AHK as that can use window specific coordinates where you derive a resolution ratio between each window... not a lot of fun and not that responsive but doable.

[bob]

@Fursphere

how is botting trying to make an aoe on one client happen on the others?



Personally, I would call this botting. Blizzard went to great lengths in the game design to require mouse interaction from the player (looting, targets AoE spells, etc).


I think your making some big leaps with that, take seed of corruption its an aoe but its just targeted, not like blizzard or hellfire were u define a circle of doom.

but u raise a good point if it is considered botting, then software boxing seems to be walking a very very fine legal/tos line atm

no additional/non user info will be sent just copies of the original info
ie
a hotkey starts our ahk script
in wow1 on LMB down x,y, cords r stored
on LMB up the x, y, cords are sent to wow2, wow3.... via a just a click command
or something to that effect


i think someone said this but cant remember were its was (its 4:30am atm).
r you required to be in the active window to cast the start of either blizzard or hellfire, i mean when your pointer changes to the targeting circle thing?

ty
and time 4 sleep

[Borogove]

I disagree, and here's why: I can do the same thing with normal mice. I position four trackball mice at very center of my screen, then I set the cameras to the same viewpoint (Blizz provides a keybinding to do this for me), and then whenever I want to cast a targetted aoe the I hit the spell and then press all of the mouse buttons. It's a little slow, but I don't play aoe classes normally.

Now let's assume that I used the same hardware replicator that I use for my keyboards (Vetra USB 4-way broadcaster) on my mouse in order to press the button 4 times at once (still positioning them by hand before). Now I'll shrink-ray my mouse and duct-tape it onto my keyboard. Now I have a button on my keyboard that sends a mouse click to the center of my screen.

Granted, if there's a tree in the way of the camera, or I'm on a hill, or etc, etc., there will be problems. BUT, the same thing happens with the software solution. We're relying on the assumption that the camera is static in order to place our aoe. All AHK is doing is emulating the hardware I described. No sleeps, no information taken from the game, and there's one action taken with one button press. That sounds clean to me.

[Stig]

A parallel (at least I think it is) question:

Can you cast simultaneous blizzards (or hellfire or any targeted AoE for that matter) if you are multi-boxing on a single computer using keyclone/maximizer? Obviously you can macro the start of the cast, but how would one position the spells? I guess my question is if keyclone/maximizer can handle this, because from what I've read I don't see how one would do this, which is disappointing.

I know thats what is being discussed here, but I'm just checking to see if it could theoretically be done at all on a single-computer setup.

EDIT: After reading a couple other threads, it appears that I was right...you can't do it at all without switching to the other instances of WoW and clicking.

[skarlot]

heres what I think. If it was out of the question Blizzard could easily implement say, 1 seconds after the window gets focus, before it will accept the spell target. If Blizzard were to ban people/software before implementing that themself, well I wouldn't think that was a fair play on their part.

For that reason I am implementing it. However I'm trying to email them as well, but you know what its like. Considering all we can do already, it would be a bit out of place if this were to cause any TOS problems because targeted spell are not any great advantage nor easy to handle. It does make mes a little nervous but seeing as 5 PC is quickly turning into 1... i think it needs to be done.

[Borogove]

Just be careful with that sort of reasoning. "Blizzard hasn't blocked it" isn't a very strong argument, and I think this forum's community really does try and play it by the spirit of the law rather than the letter. Sure, we enjoy thinking outside of the box, but the challenge (and enjoyment) comes from doing something extraordinary within the boundaries of the game rather than stepping over them.

[Morganti]

When I played my mages I would just hit the blizzard key (bringing up the area of effect targeter on all of them) and rapidly click through the screens placing it....kinda gave a nice delayed effect and would still shred anything before it got to me.

[skarlot]

My comment is just general. I believe if you go to the trouble to make Warden, but leave open cycling the window to target cast, it wouldn't make sense to me to take disciplinary action against it. At the end of the day that is all that counts. Otherwise you can just choose not to use if it violates your sense of playing by the rules.

Furthermore it would be odd to me for a Blizzard employee to wake up and ban on for example, mages casting Blizzard together, because they are using software, not hardware. I don't see any questionable extension of what I'm planning to do either ( 1 to 1 click passing).

So I would simply define it as emulating what you can do on hardware (but worse).

To add to it, I don't think the prime function of targeting is to make sure you have your cursor in the window:P (And why would they provide a spelltarget (x,y) script function for 99% of wow players? really no point).

Nor do I necessarily think the prime reason of preventing mouse input on a background window is to stop one using simultaneous targeted spells on a single computer or anything close. It enforces some interaction, but it gives them tight control over what commands can be executed in the background (the convenient place to bot) via action bars and their macro system). Otherwise you can control whatever the hell you want.

If I write software that provides simple 1 to 1 click repetition I doubt that it is going to cause any problem, but still, if they are probably not in the business of giving any sort of approval to 3rd party software (or it would have to be official) so you wont get a response unless its Wardened, but for reasons I've given, it's not something I see happening.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

Cheapie wireless mice bound to your 4 alts works like a champ for this, though it leaves you multi-clients-on-one-PC guys out in the cold. :P

[ilikemages]

Cheapie wireless mice bound to your 4 alts works like a champ for this, though it leaves you multi-clients-on-one-PC guys out in the cold. :P

Autoit = savior for this... i have researched it over the past few days.

Like AHK you can program a single button to start blizzard & change camera view to be the same, move mouse to X,Y on each screen, click.

So you'd have it be

button = open instance 1, press IG hotkey to center view and blizzard, get mouse co-ords from window 1 while clicking> open instance two mouse moves to X,Y , click> open instance 3...

It would take some sophisticated scripting but it is very doable. Also VERY banable.

My suggestion is to set your mouse sensativity high and position windows in a manner so you can scroll over and click. Using maximizer you can use scroll over focus to do this.

EX:

window 1
2 3 4

Cast blizzard, click in window 1, scroll over 2 click, 3 click, 4 click

What you could also do is make a small AHK script that when pressed presses left mouse button for you X amount of time at X interval. This way if you have aligned cameras you should be able to just quick scroll over the window and have it get the same basic area.