Lame people who multibox...

[Naysayer]

This guy and his shaman group have been running AV in my battlegroup most of the day.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightninghoof&n=Deadlyshamam

Level 39 gear? Could you even do SM with that stuff? He does nothing, couldn't do anything even if he tried. He's wasting 4 spots. I'd want to punch him in the face if I were a violent person.

[Drizhal]

This guy and his shaman group have been running AV in my battlegroup most of the day.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightninghoof&n=Deadlyshamam

Level 39 gear? Could you even do SM with that stuff? He does nothing, couldn't do anything even if he tried. He's wasting 4 spots. I'd want to punch him in the face if I were a violent person.
So you're saying he should be geared to AFK / BS thru level 80 BGs? =P

[Ogloo]

man! dont hate on our fellow boxers.. we already get enough crap

[Velassra]

He should at least try even w/ his bad gear. Just because he's a boxer doesn't mean he should get a pass on AFKxp in BG's making it harder on other players. You really want to defend that kind of behavior?

[Ogloo]

ur right. my b.. lol

[Drizhal]

He should at least try even w/ his bad gear. Just because he's a boxer doesn't mean he should get a pass on AFKxp in BG's making it harder on other players. You really want to defend that kind of behavior?

Why harp on the guy who takes up 4 / 15 slots and is undergeared? There are 11/15 other guys in there also....
I'd rather the guy afk and get the frick out of the way with poor gear and pre 77 (even 77s suck vs 80s)
You are going to have 15 at least afker's anyways....he probally has 1 80 out there and 4 tag alongs...meh doesn't really matter, better off to complain about all afkers period

[Naysayer]

If you can't even pick up a couple pieces of outlands gear by level 73, I don't know what to tell you. This guy most likely afked his way from 51 up. What a jackass. No consideration for anyone who's forced to play on his team. I'll most likely see him sometime tomorrow doing it again. This is the second day in a row so, meh. I'll try and grab some screenshots if I see him.

[Naysayer]

man! dont hate on our fellow boxers.. we already get enough crap

I'm getting crap in these BG's because of this guy. I have to go out of my way to point out the scoreboard just to get them off my case.

[mebben]

If you can't even pick up a couple pieces of outlands gear by level 73, I don't know what to tell you. This guy most likely afked his way from 51 up. What a jackass. No consideration for anyone who's forced to play on his team. I'll most likely see him sometime tomorrow doing it again. This is the second day in a row so, meh. I'll try and grab some screenshots if I see him.

Looks like he has botted all the way to 73. It's easy to check if you just look at his factions :) Sucks that you can get this far without getting noticed.

[HPAVC]

Only thing I see wrong with this is that I never run across people wearing level 40 gear in PvP.

I wish you would have posted the scoreboard for a match with these guys. I have never seen such a thing.

[daviddoran]

the gear isn't really a problem, annoying, easily replaceable with a few still crappy, but level appropriate quest rewards. The problem is that it appears he's either AFKing, or Botting, and boxing, which does nothing but draw negative attention towards boxing.

Checking his achievements, and it definately looks like botting. Only completed 26 quests..... has hardly explored anything, maybe using a teleport hack? only done a few dungeons, highest level clear was BRD. My guess is he might have played the first 30-40 levels, at least in part, then bot grinded, maybe in dungeons? and when BG exp came out, botted/afk'ed in there.

I know it's wrong, and I would never do it, but I can see SOME appeal to botting, I mean getting to 80 is a lot of hours put in, but whats the point in doing it the ENTIRE way? If he ever gets to 80, and i doube he will given this much attention he's gotten lately, he will have zero gear, zero rep, and zero knowledge of how to play a shaman, let alone box shamans. Well i take that back, all the honor he's afk farmed will likely buy him a full set of deadly gear.... I do hope he gets banned for this. I'd bet that the first rule of botting is to not bot too much, because if a player notices, it wont be too long before GMs notice.

I hope he doesn't just make new accts and start over again...

[mrmcgee21]

Noone should defend anyone who afk's in a bg, its just not right to burdon 11, 36, or 6 other players with your lazyness. Being undergeared is one thing, but simply refusing to play is really low-down. If you really don't enjoy boxing that much in PvP DONT BOX IN PVP. I've heard the arguement made before to say, "well I cant kill anyone anyways and I just get aoe'd down so I'm just going to afk in AV all day". Thats a terrible arguement, gear wont fix your problems, if you cannot stand pvp so much as you have to AFK in a bg to get gear, you should not be PvP'n because your just making all of us as boxers look bad. I'm sick and tired of being called an AFK bot or 4 wasted spots as soon as I enter a Bg because of people like this. Don't get me wrong I normally prove these claims wrong pretty quickly but to have everyone who see's my team immediately trying to assume I'm doing this kind of activity its quiet frustrating.

[Otlecs]

If he gets reported as AFK, does he still get XP?

That would be a major oversight by Blizz.

[blast3r]

I guess it is also possible he leveled to somewhere around 40 or so then did RAF gift levels. But then again he should have way more quests done. If someone pressured me to vote I would vote he is possibly botting.

[Bot]

it looks like he/she may have done the quests to get to lvl 10 then bg farmed from there. you can easily get to level 10 with questing and not discover your starting area. i dont know why you would ever bg bot. it seems so noticeable and when ive been trying the bg leveling technique (non-botting of course) at lower levels seems very time/xp inefficient. getting 5-10% of a level every 20-30 minutes is kinda a waste. but surely afking in a bg is inexcusable. they could at least write the bots to kill some dudes :)

[blast3r]

it looks like he/she may have done the quests to get to lvl 10 then bg farmed from there. you can easily get to level 10 with questing and not discover your starting area. i dont know why you would ever bg bot. it seems so noticeable and when ive been trying the bg leveling technique (non-botting of course) at lower levels seems very time/xp inefficient. getting 5-10% of a level every 20-30 minutes is kinda a waste. but surely afking in a bg is inexcusable. they could at least write the bots to kill some dudes :)

haha! your nick fits right into this subject. but if he/she did level from bgs (which would be incredibly slow at low brackets) there would be some better gear from honor points.

[Multibocks]

I bet you get lots of GM petitions with those names lol.

[Smoooth]

Since he is exalted with AV rep he had to have started before level 70. Maybe he just boosted/level granted to 60 then leveled in AV only. Gear doesn't matter all that much pre 80 and I have read a ton of people say how they only quest to 71 then AV to 80 wearing only 60s gear. Even if he leveled from 51 in AV he could just be buying 80 pvp gear.

As for just sitting afk in a BG, that's a separate question. I have read that before the recent afk changes that when you get the debuff you still get the xp but not the honor.

[Multibocks]

I hit exalted with AV around 76, it doesnt take long if you do all the quests. Although in this case he doesnt do ANY quests, so ya....

[Smoooth]

By looking at his exploration he has been to tauren noob areas, SFK, BFD, Razorfen Kraul, Sunken Temple, ZF, Scholo, and hellfire instances. That sounds like plenty to boost to at least the upper 60s with summons. I doubt theres any botting going on. OP probably just got pissed for some reason or another. Sounds like nerd rage to me.

[Souca]

Looks like he has botted all the way to 73. It's easy to check if you just look at his factions :) Sucks that you can get this far without getting noticed.

Or he instance boosted and didn't bother to loot. Not saying he should get a free ride in the battlegrounds, but I have some characters with crap faction that are either RaF granted or boosted. I do have "level 58 welcome to Outlands here are your green epics" though ;)

Edit: Out of it today, or maybe the whole week, responded to something without noticing the other page of replies.

- Souca -

[Bot]

I bet you get lots of GM petitions with those names lol.

haha only one so far that i know of... but i actually dont really box them anymore i mainly play bot solo and occasionally dual box. wotlk put the 5 boxing on the back burner and i havent gotten bored enough yet to fire up the other 3 accounts back up. also to be clear i have never botted :)

the guy i know reported me whispered me saying "you know botting is illegal right?" and i said "yeah im not botting." then he said "im still reporting you."

lol

[blast3r]

I guess it is also possible he leveled to somewhere around 40 or so then did RAF gift levels. But then again he should have way more quests done. If someone pressured me to vote I would vote he is possibly botting.

I would like to take back my accusation of botting. Sometimes I make decisions in my mind based on what I see without really thinking about it. This team has a lot of kills...42,000 plus. I apologize to the boxer for making my statement.

[Slats]

He instance boosted. My shamans in my sig have stuff all quests done, hardly any factions. The only reason they have any damn flight paths is because when i faction xferred them I got all the flight paths everywhere for free.

Quest to 10 with RAF takes like 20 minutes. Boosted thru:
SFK, Stockades, SM, Sunken Temple, Schololmance.

I then boosted from 60-68 in Shattered Halls over a 30 day lockout period (my 2nd b.net accoutn couldn't xfer charactes to my WOTLK accounts). I then dropped around 20k on 4x epic fliers and cold weather flying.

Did 68-71 in Howling Fjord. Did 71 - 80 in AV. Ended up on 8 days played all up accross the board with a tonne of afk'ing, chatting and fiddling with macros.

Not saying afk'ing in AV is acceptable but you can have really crappy achievments and get to 80. Just beecause questing is the normal and fun way to get to 80 doesn't mean some peeople dont go and read the Mage AoE farming guide and just do that to 80. Some people just listen to techno and farm for 10 hours - its just there thing.

[jstanthr]

all of my toons are boosted all 40 of them, with the exception of 2 80's i already had, and the toons taht are on the same acnt as my 80's were granted levels from 1 to 60, they still have starting gear on, lol. but i do quest and craft them gear to get started off in, i don't hit bg's until i feel that my gear will allow me to survive it.