Boxing Drek for AV Wins

[Souca]

So I've been playing a good deal of AV lately on my druid and I am getting tired of losing because we just can't hold towers and keep it together for Drek. So I was asking myself, what would it take to solo box Drek with all towers up?

I'm thinking I'd have to go all druid since stealth will be needed to get there and melee dps will just make things messy. So what does everyone else think? Is this possible?

- Souca -

[Schwarz]

Taking down Drek/Van with 4 marshalls? Solo or with 5 toons I would say you are going to have your hands full.

[ElectronDF]

If you don't already have the team, I wouldn't start one just for a one trick pony. In 51-60, DKs will skillgrip you and mess you up, so any team will get ganked. In any bracket, all it takes is 2-4 people to guard the general and you are pretty much screwed. All they have to do it kill one of your guys and he respawns like miles away. Sure you can do it a few times, until they learn what you are going to do. Also, Blizzard tried to stop people from 40 man rushing the end and made the general and the adds do more damage if the towers are up. So 2 tower down, might be doable but VERY hard, but 4 up isn't. I run to the end in AV about once every 10-12 games. It works. Almost no one there to stop me, when they do show up, I have 2 stragglers that followed me to help guard the end GY(RH) and eventually other come help. I would spend your energy getting a forward GY at the start and guard it. I would ask others to guard the GY and go get the end GY(RH). Then I would wait for like 20 of your friends to come help kill the general, should be all towers down and not that bad at that point.
Just my 2 copper.

[Monkofdoom]

Indeed, I agree it would be very difficult (if doable at all) you would be needing a very well geared team and the hope of no opposing players.

Most likely you'll need 2 tanks, possibly 1 aoe such as a paladin?, then you'll need a very good healer (I'm not sure whether you'd need two) and then the dps... It's probably doable but I can't imagine it being repeatable against the same people to much.

I'm still going to try though when I get up there :D

[gitcho]

Heyaz says he can take drek by himself with a few lowbies and 1 tower up - post is here (http://www.dual-boxing.com/showpost.php?p=224505&postcount=16). He says he uses just his rocks and his shamans do 5-6k dps on him.

I read another post here recently of 2 5-boxers taking Drek by themselves with 1 tower up. Just hit 80 on my shamans, and Drek basically 1-shot's my rocks x5. My spellpower is about 1300 buffed so maybe rocks have a lot better survivability with 3000 sp - i dunno.

[Jubber]

1 or 2 towers is probably possible if no one attacks you while you try it. But remember each tower provides drek with a 25% boost to hp and damage.. Trying it with 4 towers up with just your team of 5 is highly improbable.

[valkry]

Get a 245 avg item lvled tank (or 2), 2 healers and 2 dps and you should be able to do it within 2 mins or so

[stoat]

I've done it with 2 towers and an extra paladin healing me. 1 tower is easy to solo, but with 2 the random charges hurt too much with the shamans grouped up.

[Multibocks]

Not to mention the AE cleave going on.

[Jubber]

I've never seen anyoone take on all 4 towers plus drek or vann. I ahve seen back in BC a tank in full T6 take on 3 but that was with 8 healers. Again not saying it's impossible but I think it's highly improbable for a 5 man team to sneak in and take on Vann or Drek. The more people you bring the more of a crowd it draws and then you will be facing the allies as well. Waiting for 2 of the towers to go down is fine but at that point you should have more teammates around by then anyways.

[Svpernova09]

I've never seen anyoone take on all 4 towers plus drek or vann. I ahve seen back in BC a tank in full T6 take on 3 but that was with 8 healers. Again not saying it's impossible but I think it's highly improbable for a 5 man team to sneak in and take on Vann or Drek. The more people you bring the more of a crowd it draws and then you will be facing the allies as well. Waiting for 2 of the towers to go down is fine but at that point you should have more teammates around by then anyways.

I've never seen 8 healers in AV.

[Jubber]

lol.. You probably mean you've never seen 8 healers together..

[Fizzler]

I would be very surprised if 5 boxers let alone 5 individual players can take down Drek or Vann with all Marshal's up. I have been in full pre-mades that could not do it but than again I am often surprised with that folks can pull off in this game.

[Jubber]

I would be very surprised if 5 boxers let alone 5 individual players can take down Drek or Vann with all Marshal's up. I have been in full pre-mades that could not do it but than again I am often surprised with that folks can pull off in this game.

/Agree

People surprise me all the time these days.

[gitcho]

Speaking of pre-mades -I'm pretty much the only alliance boxer on my server (bonechewer)... is it possible to do cross-realm pre-mades for Reckoning? A few 5boxer groups could take drek easily

[ElectronDF]

They have changed AV a lot, but this is my thoughts. You get like 5/4ths of a tower for a boss kill. You could get 2-4 towers down. You get honor based on how many of your own towers you still have up. So it seems like you get crappy honor/exp for just 40 man rushing the final boss even if you could do it. You would get more out of the BG if you actually did the objectives. Hmmm, wonder why they made it that way.... And you want to rush to kill the boss without making sure the other stuff doesn't get back capped why? To show off? It can't be to help out, cause in my battlegroup, no one defends stuff (even stuff they try to cap) and it lots of times, it gets taken back. So you end up pushing hard, getting to the end and only burning 1 tower and you have a GY near the end, but that is it. You then have to convince 12 year olds to go back and get stuff and hold it, when they didn't want to do that in the first place. And then you lose. Seems like rushing didn't help a whole hell of a lot. If you took your time, you could get most of their stuff burned and still hold some of yours. So which is it, helping or just showing off?

[Lyonheart]

I would be very surprised if 5 boxers let alone 5 individual players can take down Drek or Vann with all Marshal's up. I have been in full pre-mades that could not do it but than again I am often surprised with that folks can pull off in this game.


NM read it worng

[Smoooth]

Speaking of pre-mades -I'm pretty much the only alliance boxer on my server (bonechewer)... is it possible to do cross-realm pre-mades for Reckoning? A few 5boxer groups could take drek easily

You alliance win 90% of the av's on reckoning anyway. But you could premade cross server by using vent or a IM app. Just queue at the same time and see if you get the same one. If not, keep trying until you do.

[heyaz]

You alliance win 90% of the av's on reckoning anyway. But you could premade cross server by using vent or a IM app. Just queue at the same time and see if you get the same one. If not, keep trying until you do.

That used to be true, but since AV xp I've noticed a massive change. Horde wins more like 40% now, and even on losses we usually get a few towers down and/or belinda at least. One difference is it's no longer 40 on 20 most games. The other is that people actually try.

This has been my observation playing solo on my lowbie priest. Now if I five box and play defense (just recap over and over, teleport to base, wipe groups, etc.) I'd say horde wins more like 70%. All we need is two boxers, one on defense, one on offense, and I bet horde would win 90% :)

[Fizzler]

They have changed AV a lot, but this is my thoughts. You get like 5/4ths of a tower for a boss kill. You could get 2-4 towers down. You get honor based on how many of your own towers you still have up. So it seems like you get crappy honor/exp for just 40 man rushing the final boss even if you could do it. You would get more out of the BG if you actually did the objectives. Hmmm, wonder why they made it that way.... And you want to rush to kill the boss without making sure the other stuff doesn't get back capped why? To show off? It can't be to help out, cause in my battlegroup, no one defends stuff (even stuff they try to cap) and it lots of times, it gets taken back. So you end up pushing hard, getting to the end and only burning 1 tower and you have a GY near the end, but that is it. You then have to convince 12 year olds to go back and get stuff and hold it, when they didn't want to do that in the first place. And then you lose. Seems like rushing didn't help a whole hell of a lot. If you took your time, you could get most of their stuff burned and still hold some of yours. So which is it, helping or just showing off?

The question was not what yields the best honor but if it was possible. A premade can run AV in 10 minutes consistently if they are decent. The quickest I have done is just under 9 minutes, got the perfection achievement too. We capped all towers, released all Flight masters and controlled both mines without losing one tower or Balinda. If done properly you can get 1500+ every time. The Rampage realm has the X-realms cross faction pre-made it works out nicely if enough people are on.

[valkry]

Perfection gets you over 2k, well it did for me the 4 times I have done it now.

To get honour at the end for a surviving tower, pretty sure you need to control it though, it can't be in conflict.

[Niley]

tried it today, my tank lasted quite a bit but that was with my 3 shamans almost spam healing me, and just lock dpsing., probably doable with dedicated healer.
My tank http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Stormreaver&n=Phean
has 41.6 hp party buffed, 3 ele shamans and a lock, others are similarly geared to the tank.

[Trick]

All we need is two boxers, one on defense, one on offense, and I bet horde would win 90% :)

I was lucky enough this evening to have my DK + 4 Ret Pally team end up in AV with a 5 Mage team from another server. I think Horde still lost, but it was crazy fun. We recapped a couple of towers together, and ended the run with him keeping Alliance wiping on Galv while I was wiping them on Drek.

[heyaz]

If any reckoning boxers are interesting in doing "premades" with two of us, send me a PM. My server has a public vent with 2 person max channels so it'll be easy to setup the comms. I'll be doing probably 100 more games over the next month so we'll have plenty of opportunities.

[Dawnstrider]

I have wondered about this myself recently and since it is thought by some to be borderline impossible makes me want to do it even more. More of a presonal Achievement than anything else. But couldnt you just do it the old fashioned way? Put most your team on the mound, go in with your tank and pull two of the Warmasters outside and kill them. Then it becomes a lot more doable.

[Multibocks]

think they will respawn if killed and drek not engaged.

[heyaz]

I have wondered about this myself recently and since it is thought by some to be borderline impossible makes me want to do it even more. More of a presonal Achievement than anything else. But couldnt you just do it the old fashioned way? Put most your team on the mound, go in with your tank and pull two of the Warmasters outside and kill them. Then it becomes a lot more doable.

I don't think that works since pre-bc. Pulling warmasters pulls the boss. Pulling the boss outside the keep resets the entire pack.

[Altsoba]

Just a theory, but never tried it so I'd like to hear your opinion about this:

Let's say, 2 tanks, 2 healers (one dedicated to each), 5-8 elem shaman.

Pull similar to Emalon.
One tank pulls all - 4 Marshals and Vandar.
Other tank taunts Vandar, they stay and tank each in one different corner (one tanks vandar, the other the 4 Marshals).
Every Earth Elemental is dropped.
Fully DPS on Vandar.

The questions are, how long can a tank survive the 4 Marshals and how long can the other survive solo tanking Vandar with all Marshalls up.
I often see Marshalls and Vandar walk all over but maybe it's just because it's a messy pug fight. I don't think they're immune to taunt and have no aggro reset abilities. Anyone can confirm this?

Win? Who knows, but tempting to try.

[gitcho]

Would be hard I think ... each tower gives drek/vann a 25% buff in HP and damage output ... you would need at least 2 geared healers per tank. I would be willing to try this if there was a way to setup a pre-made on the alliance side for Recknoning.

[Altsoba]

Would be hard I think ... each tower gives drek/vann a 25% buff in HP and damage output ... you would need at least 2 geared healers per tank. I would be willing to try this if there was a way to setup a pre-made on the alliance side for Recknoning.

I really don't remember how hard he strikes and how many hp he has but the setup suggested is pretty much what I used even when I 10 boxed a few Naxx bosses (2 tanks, two healers and rest dps), knowing that this guy has really no specific abilities, no need for micro management, etc... With quite a good dps he can go down fast. Anyone knows how many hp fully buffed he has?

EDIT: If Wowwiki (http://www.wowwiki.com/Vanndar_Stormpike) is accurate he has 1,069,000 unbuffed and 144% more fully buffed - 2608360... tbh it's nothing...

Possible problems while fully buffed:
Melees at 34160
If he stormbolts random toons he hits at 24400

Maybe a third healer is better, just in case, I think the dps cannot "afford" to support heal.

Anyhow, if something like this worked it'd be pretty much huge honor farming and it's take something like 2 5 boxers and a couple more friends/guildies.

Btw, anyone knows how much honor for just killing him and not capturing anything else?

[shaeman]

with that level of coordination you'd be able to walk in to the enemy base cap the towers and graveyard and hold them, then kill him that bit easier.

[Altsoba]

with that level of coordination you'd be able to walk in to the enemy base cap the towers and graveyard and hold them, then kill him that bit easier.

Capping towers/gy, specially at their base immediately draws their attention up north and that would imo compromise the whole plan of rushing/ win fast.

Back in the old days of single boxing and old school av I used to lead 40m premades and we were I'd say 95% coordinated :). It should be easier with just 4-5 people, even with only 2 5 boxers.

[Marathon]

So I've been playing a good deal of AV lately on my druid and I am getting tired of losing because we just can't hold towers and keep it together for Drek. So I was asking myself, what would it take to solo box Drek with all towers up?

I'm thinking I'd have to go all druid since stealth will be needed to get there and melee dps will just make things messy. So what does everyone else think? Is this possible?

- Souca -

I Meet Souca in AV :D

[Catamer]

the horde has done this several times on my battleground ( I'm alliance )
I've been told they do it with 5 tanks, one on each boss. They skip everything and just do the last boss. takes less that 5 min for the whole BG.

[Fizzler]

I really don't remember how hard he strikes and how many hp he has but the setup suggested is pretty much what I used even when I 10 boxed a few Naxx bosses (2 tanks, two healers and rest dps), knowing that this guy has really no specific abilities, no need for micro management, etc... With quite a good dps he can go down fast. Anyone knows how many hp fully buffed he has?

EDIT: If Wowwiki (http://www.wowwiki.com/Vanndar_Stormpike) is accurate he has 1,069,000 unbuffed and 144% more fully buffed - 2608360... tbh it's nothing...

Possible problems while fully buffed:
Melees at 34160
If he stormbolts random toons he hits at 24400

Maybe a third healer is better, just in case, I think the dps cannot "afford" to support heal.

Anyhow, if something like this worked it'd be pretty much huge honor farming and it's take something like 2 5 boxers and a couple more friends/guildies.

Btw, anyone knows how much honor for just killing him and not capturing anything else?

If he hits for 34160 on a melee strike he would 2 shot most folks. Can you heal that fast? He stormbolts often enough what is the HP of your healers? Is it greater than 24400? If not they are one shotted.

As far as great honor farming I would not agree. Back when it was possible to kill the General with all the Marshal's up it took about 4 minutes.

General - 389 honor
Captain - 135 honor
Winning - 248 honor

Total - 772 honor

Of course there will be PvP kills, Flight Masters released but nothing more significant than what is listed above.
There is a good chance that all towers will be in conflict and that both Captains have been killed.

Could you reliably rush the General and kill him every time. If you fail than it result in a turtle. It is far better to organize the offense cap at least the last 2 towers and than take down the General.

If you can organize a group well enough you can finish up in 10 minutes and gain a fair amount of honor. The tough part of course is organizing the group :)

[Lyonheart]

the horde has done this several times on my battleground ( I'm alliance )
I've been told they do it with 5 tanks, one on each boss. They skip everything and just do the last boss. takes less that 5 min for the whole BG.

Shut up and get your DSL fixed so we can own some AVs again damn it!!! lol

His connection has been screwed up for a few weeks it seems. When I'm in there alone, I'm the ONLY alliance who ever heads south from the start. We have some real noobs on our BG 8( I often have to take both towers myself. I have tanked the boss with my group and two other DPS with IBT and TP guards up and ALMOST win it. I get him to 10%ish and they win 8(

Me and Cat own AV 90% of the time. As long as we keep the east and west tower we win ( even if IBT and TP are still red ) Sometimes horde beat us in the race, but when we get down to the towers with little to no delay we win.

We are on Retaliation battle group. Would love to have more boxers! Even if its horde we face! Send me a PM or log in and talk to Whitelyon if you want. You can use our vent as well.

[valkry]

The end boss in AV has 1.4mil hp with all 4 WMs up, confirmed, for drek anyway

[Stabface]

The 1.4m HP is not really the issue, it's going to be the fear because he hits really hard and the instant your tank gets feared and turns his back he's going to die.
I have 6-8 manned him (not boxing though) with a single tank at 70, I don't know if a single tank could hold all 4 WMs, dogs, and Drek anymore. At L80 I was recently critted for ~32000 on my Warlock -- through SL and ~900 resil -- by the whirlwind from a 4-tower Drek'thar. I don't think he hit this hard back at L70 percentage-wise anyhow. Don't forget all the WMs also cleave / WW so any sort of melee DPS is going to be out of the question. And the chain lightning is going to fry ranged if he casts it on them.

It would be much easier to do with 2-3 tanks, 2-3 heals and some ranged DPS, as long as you're geared. Any melee DPS should probably stay at the keep door and stop people from getting in. For a 5 box group... 2 tanks 2 heals 1 dps, if you're really geared it is probably doable. 2 holy paladins is what I'd take for healers in this case.

[Siaea]

If any reckoning boxers are interesting in doing "premades" with two of us, send me a PM. My server has a public vent with 2 person max channels so it'll be easy to setup the comms. I'll be doing probably 100 more games over the next month so we'll have plenty of opportunities.

I've been pretty much doing solid AV getting my original 'main' shammy leveled (76 now, woot!). I'll have to get a new headseat (stupid pug puppies teething) but I'm all for getting a boxer or two in there with me. I've actually noticed a higher win rate (don't know if it's me, as in a solid group taking objectives, or what) since I started playing again. Maybe like 70%, more in the early morning before work. I can usually haul ass into the SP AS and thunderstorm x5, drop 5 magmas and groundings, and put all 5 of my toons on the flag. Usually one will cap it before she can get interrupted, and that puts us right at the Alliance doorstep.

P.S., back on topic :)

I got Van solo to about 20% with my 5 eles before I wiped. This is no marshals, and no other horde helping me this morning. I think if I had my DK and tried it, it could be done. Luckily this morning, a few others came in just as I was wiping and picked him up before he reset and we won. Lots of LoLs and cheers for that one.

[Souca]

I Meet Souca in AV :D

Look for my DKs, been leveling them since last night. They are about to hit 76. All named Kaia with funny chars.

The main reason I was interested in this was I like challenges. The other upsides are being able to steal a win if we are gonna lose anyway. The 6 minute achievement would be nice gravy.

With the 5 DKs, I can hold almost any tower and recap most bunkers. This works until 2-3 80s come together and work together, but that only happens so often.

AV is such a great BG because there are so many strategic aspects that can change an entire match. My least favorite is when someone caps FW right as we are getting to RH and all the horde spawn on top of us. I never understood why capping FW was bad until I was on the receiving end.

- Souca -

[Marathon]

Look for my DKs, been leveling them since last night. They are about to hit 76. All named Kaia with funny chars.

The main reason I was interested in this was I like challenges. The other upsides are being able to steal a win if we are gonna lose anyway. The 6 minute achievement would be nice gravy.

With the 5 DKs, I can hold almost any tower and recap most bunkers. This works until 2-3 80s come together and work together, but that only happens so often.

AV is such a great BG because there are so many strategic aspects that can change an entire match. My least favorite is when someone caps FW right as we are getting to RH and all the horde spawn on top of us. I never understood why capping FW was bad until I was on the receiving end.

- Souca -

I will defently look for your DK's. My guys are 74 1/2 so hopefully if i get some play time in this weekend and i can get them to 75 or 76. Yet being married sometimes really puts a clamp on my play time.

And oh yeah several 80's or even just one of them can wreck my toons pretty fast. I especially hate the warrior spin thing that just chops my guys up really quick. That and my guys are pretty weak on the gear side.

All in all i love the exp you get from AV but i serously think they should make a new bracket for level 80's only. I think it would make alot of people happy.

[stoat]

It's doable with 2 boxers, me and valk just tried with 2x 5 boxers and a couple pugs wiping at 6k hp with 4 wms up because someone pulled the wms onto us and we got lolcleaved.

[valkry]

Definately doable with 2 boxers, I didn't even have hero and was keeping stoat's tank up easy as.

[Moorea]

I used 3 level 80s to level 2 from 71->77 so I'm kind of happy 80 is mixed as I feel I contribute that way - but otherwise I agree that splitting out the 80s would be nice - but maybe they won't and they'll just do 81-85 with the xpac

[Souca]

Sadly I think if they took 80s out then no one would do AV. All the other BGs are dead and they have 80 only brackets. For the 80s it's mixed bag; lowbies are easy HKs, but too many of them and your team is weak.

My guess is that rated BGs will fill the need for a competitive 80s bracket.

Also, I hate the "lose faster" XP leechs. I'm on my 77s and I'm working my butt off to cap and defend, but these people that worry about their XP per hour really get to me. At least AFK are quiet and reported.

- Souca -

[valkry]

I hate it when people give up and are just like "let them win." No way in hell I'm letting Horde do anything that benefits them without a fight.

[shaeman]

I hate that attitude too.

Pre levelling in BG's it was still rife. 2 minutes in and folks are calling that it's a lose and let the alliance win.

How can you ever become a good pvper if all you do is cave in at the first sign of pressure.

I know that all they want to do is get the honour for the latest gear - but if all you do with it is run into an AV and cry, moan and give in then really what's the point?

If i can stop the enemy downing Drek'thar that's a small victory.
If i can grab sp graveyard when they have us blocked on the hill leading towards the alliance base that's a small victory.
If i can help break the defense on the bridge at Dun Baladar that's a small victory.

And those victories where you have turned things around are the sweetest of all.

Heck - I've even been in an AV where alliance were way ahead, and we managed to take out vanndar by keeping him in combat while everyone resses and gets back in.

[Souca]

I went and did the quest to get the AV trinket. So now I can teleport back all 5 DKs and defend if need be. Aside from being crazy xp at level 78, it's a little disturbing to have 5 DKs suddenly appear at the Aid Station flag. After that I chill with Vann and DG nubs that get in my line of sight so that they get rolfstomped by Vann and his crew. I've saved a few matches this way by wiping healers and tanks before they are ready so the guys down south can get Drek down.

Anyone know if the Death Grip glyph works in AV? Do all the HKs count toward resetting the cooldown?

- Souca -

[stoat]

Locks will be 71 by the weekend, dunno how AVs will go, around half the time it's only me and maybe 1-2 other dudes that make it all the way south and cap gy/towers before the rest catch up.

PLEASE CARRY ME NON-HORRIBLE BLOODLUST ALLIANCE!

[Marathon]

I hit 77 with my shammies today. I serously have done almost nothing but AV from 71 to 77. It was pretty awesome playing some Defense tonight and doing nothing but chain lightning on the bridge. So much fun.

[Moorea]

Speaking of the quest, remember to go back when you get exalted and get 35k xp x 4 or 5 turn ins

[Souca]

I hate that attitude too.

Pre levelling in BG's it was still rife. 2 minutes in and folks are calling that it's a lose and let the alliance win.

How can you ever become a good pvper if all you do is cave in at the first sign of pressure.

I know that all they want to do is get the honour for the latest gear - but if all you do with it is run into an AV and cry, moan and give in then really what's the point?

If i can stop the enemy downing Drek'thar that's a small victory.
If i can grab sp graveyard when they have us blocked on the hill leading towards the alliance base that's a small victory.
If i can help break the defense on the bridge at Dun Baladar that's a small victory.

And those victories where you have turned things around are the sweetest of all.

Heck - I've even been in an AV where alliance were way ahead, and we managed to take out vanndar by keeping him in combat while everyone resses and gets back in.

Let me start by saying, I'm not bragging, I got really lucky and had an awesome pally healing me.

So game starts like normal, Galv down, I head to RH. Like normal, someone caps FW before we even click RH. Waves of Hordies spawn on top of us and eventually we go down. Then the QQ starts as the entire O is pushed back to DB. Somehow we manage to hold TP and IBT and push horde back to Stonehearth. Then the QQ and "lets hurry up and lose" starts.

Now I'm used to this. As soon as anything goes wrong someone decides it's easier to quit. This time we have a huge lead, I mean its 480 resources to something like 200. I fight in the road a bit and help recap a few things, but no one is going south.

I mount up, skirt by next to IW and down the road unscathed. To be honest, I think a few of the horde were afraid of me. Lots of lowbies got mowed down earlier and they were starting to try and avoid me. I stop real fast to kill a warrior on a pally and then mount back up and head south. As I'm passing FW I notice that the pally is following me, and they are also calling everyone idiots for accepting a turtle and not heading south. I like this person already.

We get down to RH and there is no resistance. Cap it and I start to head back to sit between the towers to fend off the horde that will be heading are way, but the pally is already got a rogue back at RH so I turn around and we keep RH. For the next 20 minutes, the pally and I hold RH and fight the horde that keep coming back to get RH. Think there were 3 rogues and one really persistent holy nova spamming priest that managed to perfectly scatter me with psychic scream every damn time.

So this is crazy chaotic. There are only the 6 (or two) of us for the first 4 minutes and it seems like its a constant struggle. I lose one or two DKs, but luckily we have the RH by then so I can just regroup. Finally Alliance starts showing up one by one and we get someone up in the towers to cap and actually defend them since I'm with the pally making sure we keep RH.

10 seconds before the East tower caps we have 200 resources and horde has 20. The pally who has been better than any PR agent could ever be types this:



see i like 5 box players
they get so tired of shitty AV ers they do something about it


That was the best 31 minute AV I've ever been in. Moments like this are why I love AV; you can actually make a difference.

Thanks Terawatt of Duskwood, your heals kicked ass!

- Souca -

[shaeman]

I did have to laugh in a BG a couple of weeks ago.

We were losing bad, and the crying started in BG chat. Hurry up and lose etc.
Stop harassing them in our base.

I was in the process of typing how I would fight to the end. When someone put out

"this is usually the point when some nerd says how they are going to fight till the death".

I had to chuckle - and I did cancel what I was typing :)

[valkry]

I did have to laugh in a BG a couple of weeks ago.

We were losing bad, and the crying started in BG chat. Hurry up and lose etc.
Stop harassing them in our base.

I was in the process of typing how I would fight to the end. When someone put out

"this is usually the point when some nerd says how they are going to fight till the death".

I had to chuckle - and I did cancel what I was typing :)
It's at that point that you must say... "this is madness!!"

and let the good times roll :P

[Souca]

It's at that point that you must say... "this is madness!!"

and let the good times roll :P

No, this is Spartalac Valley!

- Souca -

[Catamer]

I was having a pretty good day leveling lowbies yesterday. pally tank, resto shaman, ele shaman from my main and I would run down. actually cap both east & west towers and as long as the other 35 players got IB or TP down I then tanked the Drek with one tower up. We didn't loose all day.

[Marathon]

I was having a pretty good day leveling lowbies yesterday. pally tank, resto shaman, ele shaman from my main and I would run down. actually cap both east & west towers and as long as the other 35 players got IB or TP down I then tanked the Drek with one tower up. We didn't loose all day.

I wait for the day when i can say the same.