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rahven32
09-03-2009, 01:14 AM
So I've had mine probably going on 6 years now. I got to thinking how many buttons I'm wasting by using the wasd for controlling my guys(I still use the n52 but the wasd is bound on it).
What I'm using atm.
http://www.dual-boxing.com/picture.php?albumid=1&pictureid=14
So I was wondering how you guys are doing your profiles? Do you move with the D-pad? If you do how do you manage jumping? I find it hard to picture a good way to jump and still use the D-pad for movement. Do you use the shift states? Haven't really found a use for them yet either. One state has been plenty of buttons for the most part.
*bonus points if you guess my spam button*
I moved to a G13 some time ago, but I spent years on the N52.
I moved with the D-pad, now I move with the thumb stick on the G13.
Jumping was (and still is) done with my G9 mouse : tilting the mouse wheel to the left. I never run and click at the same time anyway so that's quite a few options left on the mouse side.
I barely used the shift states. Only actions on alternate shift states would be things that are not used often, like forming the group, disbanding, porting to the inn, profession related buttons, etc ...
Moving with the D-pad takes some getting used to, but it is really worth it in terms of number of keys saved. You should give it a try. If I remember correctly, it took me about a WE to stop looking for the WASD keys (well, technically ZQSD keys on my French keyboard ;) )
Redbeard
09-03-2009, 03:21 AM
I just bought my n52 but... im attempting to use the DPAD =) its just hard to break 15 years of habit lol.
MarkHR
09-03-2009, 03:43 AM
n52te - not put a lot of thought and effort into this so it's pretty basic
main pad
shift 1 2 3 4
ctrl 5 6 7 8
alt 9 0 -
thumb pad
=
scroll wheel
scroll up
scroll down
esc (on press)
button above d-pad
space
d-pad
up
down
left
right
Bettysue
09-03-2009, 04:01 AM
I've never made so many options in a macro I needed more than just the control key so I bound lctrl to the orange button above the dpad. then I made the upper dpad button turn left, the forward one up, the low one closest to the "15 button" turn right and the last place is back. Using it this way I have the 15 key bound to space bar, so I can move around with the mouse and DPad in concert and use the knuckle on my thumb to jump. All the other buttons are just 1 - = and numpad0 and 1. with those 14+lctrl mod on my left hand I have plenty of binding options to cover just about everything.
My 5 button mouse with it's extra little search button (a sixth button :P) bound to mount, handles the left/right clicking plus auto-run and "follow me" on the main. The middle mouse button (clicking scrollwheel) sends left click to all the alts and holding lctrl and pressing it handles the right click passing.
Anything I can't do on those 2 is handled with the F1-F12 keys, but thats pretty much just buffing/changing gear/spec type stuff.
In PvE I use the remainder of the numpad keys for specialized healing
Katharsis
09-03-2009, 08:10 AM
DPad to strafe left and right. Hold down left and right mouse to run.
#15 to jump
Scroll wheel to change from normal to red, blue, green
Orange button to look behind me
jettzypher
09-03-2009, 09:05 AM
if you can learn to move with your mouse, itll greatly increase what you can do with the game pad. but it also helps to have a mouse with alot of buttons to program (mx revolution for example).
Naysayer
09-03-2009, 10:24 AM
So I've had mine probably going on 6 years now. I got to thinking how many buttons I'm wasting by using the wasd for controlling my guys(I still use the n52 but the wasd is bound on it).
What I'm using atm.
So I was wondering how you guys are doing your profiles? Do you move with the D-pad? If you do how do you manage jumping? I find it hard to picture a good way to jump and still use the D-pad for movement. Do you use the shift states? Haven't really found a use for them yet either. One state has been plenty of buttons for the most part.
*bonus points if you guess my spam button*
I use the D-pad to move.
I own a 5 button mouse and have bound one of the extra buttons to jump.
I use one of the other mouse side buttons and bound it to shift. I did this so that I could double my keybinds on my n52. For example, I have all my n52 regular buttons bound to F-keys for one set of keybinds, and another set of binds set to those F-keys + shift on my mouse.
Using the D-pad frees up all of your fingers to hit keybinds while you're moving. People who reach for buttons while holding a WASD movement buttons are doing it horrible wrong. It feels awkward at first, but force yourself to adapt and you'll never go back. The difference is about as much of an impact as going from clicking to keybinds.
aboron
09-03-2009, 01:02 PM
I've always used the mouse for steering, so all I really used for movement keys mostly was a forward or back button.
So I have my n52 keys set up like this:
1 2 3 4 5
Tab 6 7 8 9
0 - = rctrl
(rctrl is my vent ptt key)
I have the Orange button set to "[" for targeting main's target and interact(with lctrl) and the side thumb set to "]" for follow main and target main(with lctrl) .
I have the wheel on the n52 set to send "s" to all when i roll it down, so i can hit the thumb side for follow and flip the wheel to get everyone pointed at the tank while in combat without them running in.
On the d-pad I have forward and back normal for the main, and left and right do strafe left and right for all.
And then on the mouse, I have buttons 4 and 5 set to send modifiers ctrl and alt so i can do more on the n52 without having to deal with shift/color modes. I use the center wheel click for jump. I never autorun, if i need to do something like that i have click to move enabled.
elsegundo
09-04-2009, 08:03 PM
my d-pad is used for forward, back and strafes left and right. thumb button is jump.
top row is 67890
middle row is 12345
bottom row is tab alt - =
for boxing, my main usually will use most of the buttons. my alts will use only 67890, sometimes -= and also alt (12345). many combinations. i dual and tri box. keeps it kinda simple. but 5-boxing might require more keys from your keyboard should you need to swtich leaders, etc. i cant use my scroll wheel on the n52. its too stiff to actually do anything. so is the big orange button. now my n52te is a bit better.
Gares
09-04-2009, 08:44 PM
I bought a N52TE like a few months ago and haven't used it yet. Still sitting in the box beside my computer. Maybe I should actually start using it because I have a hard time in pvp while holding down either WASD or a combination of it + hitting other keys while I use my mouse to look around. I usually end up hitting the wrong key sometimes or I stop moving or start moving. Just doesn't seem good.
I have been thinking about buying this thing.. looks nice but I think I have more keybindings than there is buttons >< I use 1-7 with all three modifiers (altough not all of them is used, depends on char)
But it looks really small on all pictures, I have huge hands and long fingers so if it is so small it looks like I will most likely have trouble pushing only one button or "reach" the closest row.
So how small/large is it?
aboron
09-09-2009, 01:25 AM
I have been thinking about buying this thing.. looks nice but I think I have more keybindings than there is buttons >< I use 1-7 with all three modifiers (altough not all of them is used, depends on char)
But it looks really small on all pictures, I have huge hands and long fingers so if it is so small it looks like I will most likely have trouble pushing only one button or "reach" the closest row.
So how small/large is it?
I've got a pretty large hand and have some pics up in an earlier thread about it:
http://www.dual-boxing.com/showpost.php?p=168201&postcount=14
The palm rest is adjustable back from the keys by pulling it off and re-inserting it into a father set of holes, and I use the top row as my home row even though i think they intended it to be the second row, but i still like it a lot and i'm so used to it now i'll have to buy up the remaining stock if they discontinue it so i'll have spares for when they wear out...
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