Druid rotations?

[alcattle]

Playing 3 druid team, right now two boomkin and a tree. trying to find out what spells give the best damage for mana used. I always keep MF and IS DoTs up but what do you use for the nuke. I have not played too much at 60 and the moons are procs for some spell I guess. Oh well, it is late and not thinking too well, just throwing something out there to get ideas from the better players

[Svpernova09]

Starfire spam is your friend, once you have eclipse, Starfire spam until eclipse proc, then spam Wrath until eclipse drops, then back to Starfire.

[Owltoid]

I'm debating having a toggle for each moonkin. For example, when a mod tells me that my second boomkin (out of three) has a proc, then I hit the number 2 which tells HKN to start sending different keys to my second moonkin (the key for wrath instead of starfire, for example). That way I just need to monitor who procs, hit their personal toggle key, and they will start casting the other spell.

I haven't implemented it yet, and I have a list of about 15 things to do when I eventually make the time, but I think it could work well.

[alcattle]

a castsequence is not needed now as usually 2-3 spells and things are dead. I needed to know which spell to use and what to change to during the eclipse phase. Your ideas help alot. I think it would help to spread out to see whose moon it is but not much as they both still use same spells. The tree only uses attack and clickover heals.

[Owltoid]

So you're going to have 6 dps buttons of which you're have to randomly hit 3 at a time. And the 3 will change dynamically.

Plus heal. Plus tank. Plus move.

Do you have 10 fingers per hand? :D

Nope, spam one button and randomly hit three others.

Spam "d" which is my tanking macro. If the toggle is off then O1, O2, and O3 recieve "alt-d" from HKN which tells them to cast wrath. Let's say O2 receives a eclipse proc and Proculas tells me this. When I see the alert I hit my O2 toggle button (F2) which HKN now starts sending "ctrl-d" to O2 while still sending "alt-d" to O1 and O3. Now O2 is correctly spamming starfire while the others are still casting wrath.

Doesn't seem too tough to keep up with. The joys of software boxing!

[EaTCarbS]

at the end of my /click macro for my boomkin i just use:
/castrandom Wrath, Starfire Still pulls pretty good dps =) I really only worry about eclipse procs when I raid.

[Owltoid]

Yes, it's an extra button that I'd have to hit for each moonkin (or other class) that needs to switch spells when something procs. I may (or may not) have explained it better in this thread:

http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=23317&page=3


I haven't implemented it yet, but my plan is to set up a toggle in HKN that will allow me to change from casting wrath to starfire (and vice-versa) when eclipse procs.

If running one tank, three moonkin, and a resto druid, then i have to manage three eclipse procs. If the Proculas works like Fur described, then I should be able to configure each moonkin to send a customized message telling me when eclipe procs. I don't really care which spell they're casting at the time, since an eclipse proc means they need to be casting the other one.

Basically I will have three buttons that will control three toggles. I'll use F9, F10, and F11 for example. While the toggle is off, everytime my master hits "d" it will send my wrath button to each moonkin. As soon as I see a proc, for example from Moonkin 2, I plan to have Proculas send the message "F10" which will tell me to hit F10. When I hit F10 the HKN will toggle and every time I hit "d" it will send my starfire button to Moonkin 2 while still sending wrath to Moonkin 1 and 3. Obviously if they also proc eclipse then I hit their toggle buttons, F9 and F11 and they will start casting starfire. If Moonkin 2 procs eclipse based on starfire, then Proculas again tells me F10 and I hit my toggle which then reverts me back to sending wrath signals.

It should work well as long as my understanding of Proculas is correct. I'm guessing someone else will have time to actually implement this before I do, but it's on my to-do list. This should be able to work for any proc based class where switching between a couple spells is ideal.

[KvdM]

/castsequence wrath x3, starfire x3


Keep in mind that wrath only has half the cast time of starfire. A 2:1 wrath-starfire cast ratio will split the cast time evenly between wrath and starfire and will allow you to still take advantage of 50% of the eclipse proc.

[Naysayer]

I did the /CR wrath starfire thing.

Going to a manually controller rotation netted me +800 DPS at the time. I'm sure its more now. I'm considering switching too...

/castsequence wrath x3, starfire x3

...when I raid. Its very hard to main tank, main tank heal, DPS, AND try to control a DPS rotation. lol More often than not I just say screw the rotation and spam wrath.

In heroics I can ROFLSTOMP things and do a proper rotation... but raiding takes a bit more. :)

Why dont you bring only one moonkin instead so that keeping up with eclipse will be a walk in the park, plus you still keep all your group buffs? Could you add more dps and synergy switching out a couple moonkin for some other nuker with more group buffs, or am i missing something?

[Naysayer]

Hmm, maybe I missed something. I have only one Boomkin. Others have multiples, I run just one.

Prot. Paladin, Resto Shaman, 2x Elemental Shaman, Balance Druid


The 3x Wrath, 3x Starfire - I played with this last night a little. I was losing 200 - 300 DPS over managing the proc manually. I also tried a 3x Wrath 4x Starfire rotation as well.

You gota remember that the procs are not equal. The wrath procs which boosts Starfire is MUCH better than the alternate. So you're basically casting wrath JUST to get it to proc eclipse. The starfire proc that boosts wrath isn't nearly as good.

Ahh, I mistook post #3 as you having success with multiple boomkin. I thought if you can handle three somewhat, then one would be easy peasy. My mistake.

[alcattle]

Right now I am running 2 boomkin and a tree. My bear got left at 55 when RAF ended, and another Boomkin is on a dead account which I will xfer to the new RAF'ed account soon. The spell answer was fine for me. When I start end game, I will worry about max DPS

[Akera]

My druid spends most of it's time healing, but as far as I'm concerned the 2:1 Wrath/Starfire rotation works a treat. Unless your actually raiding and have enrage timers to worry about then you don't need to get the maximum DPS out of your team.

Course when I raid it's only on 1 toon as a Tankadin so perhaps that explains my lack of desire to min/max my DPS.

[Multibocks]

Yes, it's an extra button that I'd have to hit for each moonkin (or other class) that needs to switch spells when something procs. I may (or may not) have explained it better in this thread:

http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=23317&page=3


Oh weird I was in the right thread! LOL. Anyways I like this system, but I was thinking if you could push it to use Wrath to get more procs for SF. Like a toggle that resets a castsequence Starfire, Wrath, Wrath, Wrath, etc and have it reset once eclipse procs for wrath getting you the faster SF. Would this do more dps or am I just wrong?

edit: to reset the sequence maybe a toggle that does /cleartarget and put in the /castsequence reset=target Starfire, Wrath, Wrath, Wrath, Wrath, how many wraths does it need for a proc? heh.