Glory of the Hero - Red Proto Completed

[Teslah]

Hey everyone,

Been playing off and on over the past few months. Been busy with the company, but finally got around to finsihing Glory of the Hero for the red proto drake. If anyone needs any tips let me know. I did all of the achivements solo (as I am sure others have, no biggie) so if you need a tip let me know. The toughest ones for me were the timed Oculus, Less Rabi (kept killing him as he changed) and the two in Ahn'Kahet, but I managed to get them all done with some luck.

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/299/5redproto.jpg (http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/299/5redproto.jpg)

Just for the info none of these characters have been in a 25+ raid. It's all heroic and badge gear from the new instances.

Good luck to everyone.

[Multibocks]

How did you do the "Watch Him Die" and Elder Nadox achievement?

[Creazil]

How did you do the "Watch Him Die" and Elder Nadox achievement?

Watch Him Die:
I did it pretty easy with a DK tank, only playing 4 shamans, tho .. I placed my totems with 4xearth elementals at the "road" to the entrance portal. Then I moved away from my totems, had my DK summon Army of Dead, pull all 3 packs+the boss, at that point he ran as fast as possible towards the instance portal.. Then I popped BL and NUKED the boss, got him down and wiped.

Respect Your Elders:
Personally I did this before the "pull away tactic" nerf. It seems very hard now, but there might be some good tactics :)

[Homer]

Nerf? I did this solo in 3.1, Just tanking them in different rooms

[Teslah]

How did you do the "Watch Him Die" and Elder Nadox achievement?

For "Watch Him Die" this is what I did.

1. I have a Druid on the team so I got a dual spec and made him a tank.
2. I placed the other 4 guys to the far right as you enter the area with the bosses, but made them face the entrance area.
3. I put the Druid at max range so I could target the boss. Then I turned him around and used Faerie Fire on the boss and ran in Cat form to the entrance.
4. Everyone followed the cat and as they were almost out of range I used the Pally solo taunt to get the boss on me.
5. I also had a Earthbind Totem down to slow the watchers down.
6. Then I changed to bear form and hit Frenzied Refeneration.
7. With all buffs, Heroism, food and Frost Wyrm going I downed the boss by himself. Took me a few trys, but I had him down the last time right as the rest entered the room.

Forgot to add the Druid was stealthed in cat form so I could get close enough to FF the boss.

The Druid could tank and stay alive long enough so I could down him.

"Eldor Nadox"
1. I placed the Shaman by the boss.
2. I ran the other four down the stairs and far away from him.
3. I pulled the boss with the pally shield and ran to the other 4.
4. After he was well by the Shaman I popped the Earth Elemental to tank the Guardians.
5. Shaman was able to hold them all until I could get the boss down. Again, using all buffs, food and Heorism.

Once I tried it this way I think I got him on the first try. These two were some of the harder ones for sure. The Oculus ones took some time to learn also, but now I think Oculus is fairly easy believe it or not.

Hope that helps.

[Multibocks]

Thanks that does help, I guess I can have one shaman run to entrance on "watch him die" maybe with a swiftness potion.

Didnt even think of earth elementals for Elder Nadox. Nice!

[Bollwerk]

I'm having an impossible time doing Brann's event - I've gotten the achievement on all my toons by playng them in pugs, but I still need to 5-box Brann so I can do Abuse the ooze on the end boss. I've tried all the tips on the forums here, but I still get overwhelmed.

[Teslah]

I'm having an impossible time doing Brann's event - I've gotten the achievement on all my toons by playng them in pugs, but I still need to 5-box Brann so I can do Abuse the ooze on the end boss. I've tried all the tips on the forums here, but I still get overwhelmed.

It's been a while since I did this one, but what worked for me is as follows:

1. Put your pally at the bottom of the stairs. Make sure your consecrate gets all of the mobs on the left and right as they come down.
2. The first part is fairly easy. It only gets tough at the end when the beam is coming down and there are a bunch of mobs running around so save all of your cooldowns, pets and heroism for this part.
3. Make sure you have a strafe key setup so you can get out of the beam as soon as it hits so you don't lose a guy.
4. Do everything you can with taunts, consecrate, etc. to keep everyone on the pally. Save LOH, Divine Protection and everything else until the very end. It's only the last 20 seconds or so that get really tough. Save everything for that moment.
5. Keep your guys spread out so the beam only hits one of you. Also, if you strafe the group make sure to stagger your guys so as one moves out of the beam another does not move into it.
6. You can heal Brann by the way. Not sure if you knew this, but you could make a quick macro to give him a heal or two at the end so you can make it through.

If you make sure the pally is on the stairs that is half the battle.

I posted a movie a long time ago showing it when WoTLK came out. It was a long time ago, but you can see how I did it back then.

http://www.wegame.com/watch/Multibox_Halls_of_Stone_Heroic/

Keep trying you'll get it.

[Niley]

How did you do the "Watch Him Die" and Elder Nadox achievement?


I got that today accidentally, I pressed follow on my team and one shaman just started running forward, so he range aggroed him. I just nuked the boss(this is where gear comes into play) and then killed all the rest, 2 shamans and my lock were dead in the end, and my paladin barely survived.
I think it would be much easier if i was prepared for it, so maybe nuking him down ignoring the ads will work for more people?
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/9343/wowscrnshot083109022123.jpg

[Multibocks]

Hmm my paladin is about 1.5k short of your health, so I'll give it a try!

[mrmcgee21]

theres an existing thread with extensive information on all the achievements already, might be 1 or 2 pages back though.

[Bollwerk]

"Eldor Nadox"
1. I placed the Shaman by the boss.
2. I ran the other four down the stairs and far away from him.
3. I pulled the boss with the pally shield and ran to the other 4.
4. After he was well by the Shaman I popped the Earth Elemental to tank the Guardians.
5. Shaman was able to hold them all until I could get the boss down. Again, using all buffs, food and Heorism.

Once I tried it this way I think I got him on the first try. These two were some of the harder ones for sure. The Oculus ones took some time to learn also, but now I think Oculus is fairly easy believe it or not.

Hope that helps.
Does this work currently (3.2 patch)? I heard you can't pull him out of his room, or he wipes the group. If it still does work, where exactly do you pull him to? (room before him with the shallow pool, or at the bottom of the stairs after the pool?)

[Teslah]

Does this work currently (3.2 patch)? I heard you can't pull him out of his room, or he wipes the group. If it still does work, where exactly do you pull him to? (room before him with the shallow pool, or at the bottom of the stairs after the pool?)


Yes, it does work after 3.2 I made an image for you to see where I placed the boss and the Shaman with his Earth Elemental. The boss needs to be pretty far from the Guardians in order to NOT be immune so I am sure it's ok to pull him into another room.

OLD KINGDOM MAP

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/5122/oldkingdom.jpg

Let me know if you need any other tips.

Thanks.

[Bollwerk]

Thanks. That worked perfectly.

[Teslah]

Duh.. whoever said it - thanks for reminding me that Druids can tank. My Druid (Boomkin) has a pretty good epic feral set I've collected - I should be able to do a bunch of these achievements now! :D

That was me. I forgot too, but as I kept running the new ToC heroic instance I ended up getting a set for my Druid so I tried the dual spec. Then when trying to do that achievement I remembered he had the set. Definitely makes it a lot easier this way.

Good luck getting it done. If you need any help with placement or other achievements let me know. I almost done with the second team of 5 for Glory of the Hero. It went much quicker this time lol.

[Bollwerk]

I need some advice on how to do Split Personality. I have tried hexing the adds, but obviously that breaks when they take damage from the AE. I can't seem to keep up with healing my group and AEing them at the same time. I drop magma totems, then Chain Heal, but they do too much damage, especially with the time stop + blizzard and 2x polymorph. I have frost and fire resist totems up. I usually get the adds to about 1/2 health before I wipe.

[Volch0k]

I need some advice on how to do Split Personality. I have tried hexing the adds, but obviously that breaks when they take damage from the AE. I can't seem to keep up with healing my group and AEing them at the same time. I drop magma totems, then Chain Heal, but they do too much damage, especially with the time stop + blizzard and 2x polymorph. I have frost and fire resist totems up. I usually get the adds to about 1/2 health before I wipe.

I can see you are using prot-paladin, remember that avenger's shield silences all if they are close to eachother.

[Bollwerk]

I had not thought of that, but I'm not sure how much it will help. The silence only lasts a few seconds and the cooldown is a while. If they had different names, I could make macros to hex and/or Wind Shear them, but since they have the same name, I have to individually target on each window if I want to hex / poly them separately.

[Volch0k]

I had not thought of that, but I'm not sure how much it will help. The silence only lasts a few seconds and the cooldown is a while. If they had different names, I could make macros to hex and/or Wind Shear them, but since they have the same name, I have to individually target on each window if I want to hex / poly them separately.

May be a long-shot but if you make a macro;

/target *add*
/target *add*

Wont that target the a different add then the closest one?

[Teslah]

I need some advice on how to do Split Personality. I have tried hexing the adds, but obviously that breaks when they take damage from the AE. I can't seem to keep up with healing my group and AEing them at the same time. I drop magma totems, then Chain Heal, but they do too much damage, especially with the time stop + blizzard and 2x polymorph. I have frost and fire resist totems up. I usually get the adds to about 1/2 health before I wipe.


This is how I was able to get it.

1. If you dps her fast enough she will not throw you around and you can skip the first split.
2. Run into the room and aggro her, then run out so it resets. Then run your guys into place and be ready for her when she respawns. This gives you a lot more damage time to make sure you are able to dps through the first wave.
3. When she does split slow it down here. Target one, do some damage, target another one, do some damage and repeat until they are all really low. Save your aoe attacks for when you want to nuke them all at the end so they all die at the same time.
4. When she comes back she will have very little health. Put all your dots on her because she will throw you around at this point. She will die as she is throwing you around so you only need to kill the splits one time.

In summary, aggro her and run in to reset, then nuke her to get through the first split, then slow it down and kill the adds slowly to make sure they all get really low health and then aoe blast them all. When she comes back apply dots and hit her with your instants as you are being thrown around she will die before splitting again.

[Kalros]

Less-rabi!!!! I've tried it about 10 times now, and his 3rd attempt at transforming is damn-near instant!!!!

[Teslah]

Less-rabi!!!! I've tried it about 10 times now, and his 3rd attempt at transforming is damn-near instant!!!!

I just finished my second team of 5s Glory of the Hero achievment tonight. I'm glad that's done! :)

For less-rabi you should only need 3 interrupts. My teams are probably different than yours. I have a Pally, Mage, Druid, Shaman and Priest on one and a Pally, Hunter, Lock, Shaman and Priest on the other. This made this achievement much tougher than if I had 4 Shammies.

If you have 4 Shamans put your interrupts on different buttons so one is always ready. Make sure to make a macro with /stopcasting at the beginning so as soon as you hit it they cast Wind Shear. You can also put a couple of interrupts on one button for the last cast and smash it as soon as you see the text that he is changing.

Your Hammer on your pally tank also works. You can use that for the first or last interrupt depending on your play style.

If you miss one of the first two interrupts just die and start over. The only one that is tough is the last one. Just dps him down as quickly as you can and be ready for that last one. If you do it right he'll die right after you interrupt his third cast.

Break it down to its most simple form. The only one you will have trouble with is the last one. So focus on getting the last one timed right. The others are fairly easy. It's only that third one that can be a pain so make your focus to nail the last one.

[Bollwerk]

To get Less-Rabi, here is what I did:

1) I respec'd all 3 shamen with 5/5 reverb
2) I created /castsequence macros as follows (these were my main dps spam for this fight):
.....a) /castsequence Wind Shear, Lightning Bolt, Lightning Bolt
.....b) /castsequence LB, WS, LB
.....c) /castsequence LB, LB, WS
3) at 50%, I used counterspell with my mage (I had my mage dps button as a different button, so I could stop dps with my mage as 50% approached)

It still took a few tries, since he will sometimes transform at 1% or so, but I eventually got it after a few days.

I now have 4 achievements left for Glory of the Hero. Looks like Split Personality and Make it Count are going to be the hardest.

[Pocalypse]

What I did for Less-rabi was spec one shaman with reverbation, remove his dps key so he did nothing but interrupt, and have this macro on my main, with the stopwatch shown and center screen:

/script Stopwatch_Clear()
/script Stopwatch_Play()

Above 50% he casts every 10 seconds
At 50% he'll cast
Below 50% he'll cast every 5 seconds

Just spamming wind shear on my shammy wasn't good enough, it always went off a split second too soon.
So using the macro above, I just cast when I saw 4.95-5.0 seconds since the last time. Mostly I'd get the interrupt before seeing the cast bar.
Got it on the second attempt with this method, after about 10 failed attempts trying other stuff.

Now I just have Volajz's quick demise left :(. I can't seem to get below 2.30.

[Kalros]

Congrats Teslah on your 2nd set of Drakes!!! That's awesome!!!

So here is what I have left:

-Less-Rabi (i'll try these suggestions tonight)
-Share the Love (No idea how I am going to do it with a Pally and 4x Ele Shaman team)
-Intense Cold (hoping for alot of luck on this one)
-Chaos Theory (have not actually tried it yet, doesnt seem terribly difficult)
-Dehydration (have not tried it yet, doesnt seem too bad)
-Make it count (I actually have some ideas and think its just a matter of learning every trick and shortcut you can)

I'm hoping to have everything done by Friday or Saturday. I'll keep y'all posted!!!!

And if there are any thoughts on Share the Love, Intense Cold or Make it Count, I'm all ears!!!!

[Pocalypse]

Intense cold isn't hard if you have a pally tank.

Just pick one group member, set up a /cast [target=name] Cleanse macro, and spam it whenever everyone get's stunned. You'll need 5 attempts to get the achievement on everyone, but it's not hard.

For share the love, I took a friend to offtank it for me. I tried it with 4 earth elementals a few times, but then you need to be really lucky so he impales your tank while the elementals have him.

[Kalros]

For Intense Cold, will PvP trinkets break that chain effect? I was kind of hoping to get it in one shot with all 5. I guess thats wishful thinking? My plan was to go crazy with the DPS: Pop 3x Fire Elementals, Heroism, etc and burn quick, use PvP trinkets on the first chain effect and then hope I can finish her off before the 2nd chain cast (jumping with everyone before the debuffs stack above 2).

[Alemi]

For Intense Cold, will PvP trinkets break that chain effect? I was kind of hoping to get it in one shot with all 5. I guess thats wishful thinking? My plan was to go crazy with the DPS: Pop 3x Fire Elementals, Heroism, etc and burn quick, use PvP trinkets on the first chain effect and then hope I can finish her off before the 2nd chain cast (jumping with everyone before the debuffs stack above 2).

PVP trinkets do break the effect, however, with all the jumping you have to do it pretty much cuts dps by a ton.

I did it with 4 shaman and a dk - all in 1 go. First cold, pvp trinket - Right before the 2nd cold, use a Free Action Pot.

Share the Love just requires luck. Tank with your pally until he switches to rhino and then pop some (or all) earth elementals. You have to hope your tank gets impaled, but he generally picks the farthest from him, so i just ran my tank a distance away and waited to get impaled. Not too bad at all.

Make it Count is by far the hardest. Gotta have lots of macros set up ahead of time and just fly fly fly. I always fly through the center of the ring after you mount, and after you kill blinky mage dude. That way you can avoid most of the drakes and all the stupid little whelps and save time.

[Teslah]

Some ideas.

INTENSE COLD

I did it the easy way. Just leave two people near the entrance. They are out of range of the effect and they will still get the achievement when you kill her. No need to worry about jumping everyone every second or braking the chains. Just leave one or two at the door far away and they will get the achievement when you kill her.

SHARE THE LOVE

You might need another tank here. You can try the Earth Elementals, but he will kill them very quickly. Have someone help you if they can. Just let them run in, you follow with a healer and leave the others in the ring by the stairs. He will have to impale one of the three of you that are near him. Once you get impaled taunt him to you and get the other tank to get impaled, then drag him to the ring and slowly kill him. If you stay in the ring his knockback can't throw anyone far away.

MAKE IT COUNT

Practice, practice, practice. It seems very hard to do it at first, but it will become routine once you do it a few times. You'll get it no problem once you try it a few times.

1. Use the stopwatch right after you kill the boss.
2. Buff, food and anything else of course.
3. Make an exit vehicle macro. Saves a lot of time from trying to click them off individually. Hit is as soon as you are over the platforms and start attacking asap.
4. I do it by using Heroism on the second boss so I don't get killed with a freak double lightning strike.
5. Make sure to have a Frost resist totem up at all times.
6. Use timestop when killing the drakes to get to each platform. Hit it and kill the 2 or 3 drakes that are near where you are going to land.
7. You can still do this if one or two people die. Just rez them and buff as you go.
8. Use the Amber drakes to get it done.
9. Make sure to hit timestop before he starts moving. Try to time it so you hit one right when he is about to break. Keep him frozen the entire time. If whelps appear it's pretty much over with Ambers.
10. If you die or don't make the time try to rush kill him anyway for the practice. Run into the instance, hury to the drakes, get on them fast and fly right to him. Do it as if you only have two mins left to get the practice time in.

The best time I had was with about 2 minutes left once he was dead. Try to get through the initial phases as fast as you can so you can take a small 5 second break to get ready and go after the boss. Make sure to kill the whelps that follow you up to the boss when you go at him. It took me a few days to get it. You just need a little luck with the drakes, whelps and having a smooth run.

[Kalros]

8. Use the Amber drakes to get it done.

Ok, thats gonna be an issue. The time I did it with 5x Ambers, it took me about 10 wipes to finally kill him. I was gonna do the 2x Ruby and 3x Emerald. Would that still work?

[Teslah]

Ok, thats gonna be an issue. The time I did it with 5x Ambers, it took me about 10 wipes to finally kill him. I was gonna do the 2x Ruby and 3x Emerald. Would that still work?

The 2X Ruby 3X Emerald is the safest by far, but it takes a good 4-5 minutes to down him this way. If you can get the first part done in 15 minutes do it the way you mentioned. It's much easier than the 5 X Ambers for sure. It just takes about twice as long to get him this way.

Do what works for you. Don't even think about completing it. Just go for it, relax, do it as quickly as you can and see if you can make it. If not, there is always the next day.

Just try to get as much time as you can to fight him. Cut corners, jump off the drakes and start firing, etc. Get as much time as you can. Nothing is worse than doing it, but going over the time limit by a few seconds.

Have fun with it. You are almost done and will have your red protos soon!

[Kalros]

Heh, thanks for the words of encouragement.

Perhaps I'm doing something wrong on the 5x Ambers. Basically I split into two groups, one that does Temporal Rift and the other does Shock Lance, and they alternate ever 2 seconds or so. And all the while doing a Stop Time rotation. Thats how its done right? Its supposed to be really high DPS, but I still couldnt kill him until after the 2nd Phase Shift

[Kalros]

Yep, tried again today to do the 5x Ambers and I can get him close, but I tend to wipe many times before I can finally bring him down, which wont help me on the 'Make it Count' achievement. Is there a good guide for this anywhere? I watched The Moos video, but it doesnt give very detailed information.

[Teslah]

Yep, tried again today to do the 5x Ambers and I can get him close, but I tend to wipe many times before I can finally bring him down, which wont help me on the 'Make it Count' achievement. Is there a good guide for this anywhere? I watched The Moos video, but it doesnt give very detailed information.

Not sure if there is a guide. I tried the 3X temp rift 2X shock lance and switching back and forth with Amber Drakes, but for me that approach was sketchy and unreliable. I altered it some so there are always 4 rifts on him with one person shock lancing, then the next ,etc. while always keeping 4 rifts on him.

No matter how fast you kill him he will phase shift two times. The goal is to get 10X charges for the character that is about to use Shock Lance. If you can do that he will go down fast and will shift in the middle of his third Stop Time. Then fly away and rise and repeat. There won't be any whelps this way.

I don't have a guide written up, but if I get some time I'll try to put something up with macros and pics so you can see how I do it.

[Kalros]

That would be amazing, actually!!!!! I was able to do it once with 5x Ambers, but like I said, it took about 10 wipes and I have not been able to duplicate that success since!

[Kalros]

Also, I STILL cannot get Less-Rabi, even after bringing a Mage friend. I even had her respec to the Improved Counterspell just for this fight, and she says that she keeps getting the message that he is immune to the silence portion of the spell. Everyone says its easy with a Mage, but I still have yet to get it even once.

[Kalros]

Got help from a tank friend and finished Share the Love. So now I'm down to 3:

-Dehydration
-Less-Rabi
-Make it Count

I'm actually having problems with Dehydration. Its not as simple as hitting the crystals because of that damn knockback. Even pulling him to the door has not been successful for me.

Less-Rabi still sucks, just waiting to get lucky I guess

Still worried about the last fight for Make it Count. I just cant get him in the first try.

[Kalros]

Not sure if anyone is even still reading this thread, but I have now mastered the 5x Amber drake kill. I was making a HUGE mistake with my hotkeys (I was button-mashing which is not good for Temporal Rift). So I should be able to get 'Make it Count' tomorrow.

Still having problems with Dehydration. I just cant get it!!!!!

[Bollwerk]

I can't seem to get Split Personality, even with the advice of DPSing one at a time. I've gotten close using an AE approach, but I don't understand how people 5-box this without a tremendous amount of luck, or a specific class mix. When I use the single target dps approach, I am able to Hex all 3, but it wears off before I can manage to DPS each low enough. When they are all casting, it is all I can do to heal my group. I can't DPS at the same time.

All I have left is Split Personality and Make it Count. I think I can get Make it Count, but only 1 try a day makes it hard.

If I can get more detailed help on Split Personality, I would really appreciate it.

[Multibocks]

I did it today on my ret paladins by accident. I would suggest you dont even bother hexing. Beat one to about half, switch to next. From all the AE flying around when you get the third to half the other two should be low, continue dpsing until they are all dead. I think this achieve would go well with Fire elementals and thunderstorms (too finish them off.)

[Teslah]

I can't seem to get Split Personality, even with the advice of DPSing one at a time. I've gotten close using an AE approach, but I don't understand how people 5-box this without a tremendous amount of luck, or a specific class mix. When I use the single target dps approach, I am able to Hex all 3, but it wears off before I can manage to DPS each low enough. When they are all casting, it is all I can do to heal my group. I can't DPS at the same time.

All I have left is Split Personality and Make it Count. I think I can get Make it Count, but only 1 try a day makes it hard.

If I can get more detailed help on Split Personality, I would really appreciate it.

No need to Hex them. Just kill them really quickly. DPS one to about 15%, then the next and the final one. Try to time it so she isn't doing her Blizzard since you can't kill her while she is channeling this. It might take a few trys, but you can kill them all very quickly and have them all die at about the same time without AOE.

Also, when I did it with the last group if I wasn't sure I was under 5 seconds I would run out. Then she chases you and resets the encounter. You can do it over and over and over until you are sure you have them all killed within 5 seconds. Then kill her when she respawns before the second wave comes at you.

[Kalros]

I may have just gotten lucky, but when I did Split Personality, I went all-out DPS before the split. Once she split, I kept it very slow and methodical. I started with a 4x Chain Lightning, then switched targets, did one cast, switched again, did another, and just kept bouncing back and forth between targets, making sure I have the one with the highest health on target before casting. Then, once they are all down to about 20%-ish, just went all-out DPS again.

I was doing Nexus again yesterday to finish up Intense Cold (used the 'stand at the entrance' trick with my team) and I was able to beat her before she split for the 2nd time, so if you can manage to do that, it'll certainly help. When I got Split Personality she split twice on me.

[Niley]

Just be careful, i killed her before she split for the first time, and she didn't drop any loot or even badges :(

[Multibocks]

I did this one on accident with my ret group of paladins. Just rotated through the targets and stunned the ho that was AEing. My shaman are pissed =(


P.S. F*ck VH and Ichoron. I never get him anymore....

[Volch0k]

Seriously, I've done most ALL achivements besides oculus ones now, and i can't seem to fucking get em. I cosider myself a 'good' pve boxer, i did most of the achi in first try, (less rabi 'one-shot').

I'm going with the 5x timestop dragons, but can't seem to get this right. Could anyone please explain in detail? :(

[Kalros]

I'm going with the 5x timestop dragons, but can't seem to get this right. Could anyone please explain in detail?

You talking just the last fight or the whole instance in general?

Give me a few to collect my thoughts and I'll post exactly what I do using 5x Ambers .....................

[Kalros]

Ok, so to defeat Eregos with 5x Amber drakes, start by watching The Moos video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3d7oYaBzUgo&hd=1

Now it doesnt go into much detail as far as macros and whatnot, so here is what I have to add to that video:

-First, I'm a button-masher. And I had to unlearn my button-mashing ways in order to get this right.
-I use a Nostromo n52 gamepad and have it programmed with 2 settings: 1 for normal use, and another strictly for Eregos. I switch it to the Eregos mode right before I engage. Do whatever you like, but thats why I have my keys setup the way I do.
-These are my macros that I have set up on each character:

Lance:

/target Ley-Guard
/cast Shock LanceRift:

/target Ley-Guard
/cast Temporal RiftTime:

/cast Stop TimeDismountVehicle:

/script VehicleExit();-Stop Time is set to a different key for each character in order to do rotations. You cannot do more than 3 Stop Times before his phase shifts, so time them right, and make them count!


-This is how I have the macros set up on each character (you can do however you want, this is just my layout):

Party1: Ctrl+1: Stop Time // 1: Lance // 2:Rift
Party2: Ctrl+2: Stop Time // 1: Lance // 2:Rift
Party3: Ctrl+3: Stop Time // 1: Rift // 2:Lance
Party4: Ctrl+4: Stop Time // 1: Rift // 2:Lance
Party5: Ctrl+5: Stop Time // 1: Rift // 2:Lance

-As soon as I am ready to engage, I get in range and hit the first Stop Time.
-Then, I hit '1', pause for just a second and hit '2', and go back and forth, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2 etc. Only let a second or two pass in between. If your timing is right, you'll be pulling great DPS.
-All the while, keep your Stop Time rotation going. As soon as the first one wears off, I hit the next one. If you keep him frozen for 3 Stop Times and keep up your DPS rotation, he should do his Phase Shift without summoning any drakes (if he does that, its almost a guaranteed wipe). And once the phase shift is over, you can hit him with 3 more Stop Times. You'll always have 2 phase shifts, but if done right, he'll die right after the 2nd.

Questions?

[Kalros]

Oh, and one other important thing I forgot to mention, have all your macros set up and ready to go BEFORE you pull the first boss. This includes hotkeying the Amber Drake icons. If you drag it to your hotbar in the instance, it will stay there even if you dont have the icon. Keep it somewhere on your hotkeys so you can have it set up and ready to go before you even pick it up off the guy. If you have to, go into Oculus on Normal and hotkey it, then go to Heroic.

[Volch0k]

Thanks a lot, this is very much appreciated: I will set up the macro's today, and do a normal run just to check it out since I'm currently saved for Oculus until tomorrow with my main.

[Kalros]

Sure thing! And to get Amber Void, follow the strategy on the Wiki: http://www.dual-boxing.com/wiki/index.php/The_Oculus_(heroic) , Thats a very good setup also, its just slow going on the last boss (but easier), so not ideal for Make it Count.

[Volch0k]

I'll check it out. I already got amber void on 3/5 of my characters since i did go some solo-runs with my guild tonight. All tho, getting the grip on 5x amber seems good, since i can achieve 3/4 achievements on each character that way. Because for Make it count, i guess the easiest is running Amber x5 and get a little bit lucky and one-shot last boss?

[Harem]

I got that today accidentally, I pressed follow on my team and one shaman just started running forward, so he range aggroed him. I just nuked the boss(this is where gear comes into play) and then killed all the rest, 2 shamans and my lock were dead in the end, and my paladin barely survived.
I think it would be much easier if i was prepared for it, so maybe nuking him down ignoring the ads will work for more people?
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/9343/wowscrnshot083109022123.jpg


I've not done this boxed yet, but I've run several guild groups through and thats what we did, just focus fire the boss then take adds down.

[Volch0k]

So i put up my macro's, and gave it try. My problem is: After the first time-stop i have to stop the dps, so i can cast another time-stop..trying bashin the timestop-key for a clone while dps, but that didnt work. I got him down to like 55% very fast, but some whelps spawned. Only tried 3 times, but gonna try more later today :)

I guess i just gotta get the timing perfect.

[Volch0k]

And a couple tries later - He's eating the floor! :D

I guess i will need a couple of days and get really pist of at this instance for getting 20 min achi, but it sure will be worth it.

[Kalros]

So you beat him?! Got your Emerald/Ruby Voids?

If it was my macros/strat that put you over the top, then I ask something in return: How did you make your signature?! I want a nice graphical signature for my team(s).

[Volch0k]

Yes, i did get ruby/emerald void. Currently working on getting exp. drake rider, and make it count. It's nice that i can do exp. drake rider if i fail on make it count, but still need to work on my macro's for that.

About the signature, I made that myself with photoshop. I'm really not good at Photoshop, just used a text-tut and effect-tut from good-tutorials.com

[Kalros]

Currently working on getting exp. drake rider, and make it count

I would recommend doing this in 3 separate trips.

On the first day use the Emerald/Ruby strategy in the wiki: http://www.dual-boxing.com/wiki/index.php/The_Oculus_%28heroic%29
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg255/rek6779/occulus.jpg

Then reverse everyone's roles for the 2nd day, and BOOM! Experienced Drake Rider!

By then you should know the zone well enough to give Make it Count a good shot using 5x Amber.

When you go for Make it Count, before killing the 2nd boss, keep your drakes in the center area, and kill as few of the enemy drakes as possible. I only kill a total of 7 drakes before downing the 2nd boss, and at that point, the rest disappear.


About the signature, I made that myself with photoshop. I'm really not good at Photoshop, just used a text-tut and effect-tut from good-tutorials.com

Photoshop, aye? I just put this one together using Paint. Its kinda big though. Need to shrink it down.

[Volch0k]

I'm using X-perl, so the pet-health percentage is just so fucking small, hard to see who to heal...and i'm just generally failing totally at that setup :/

I'm considering doing the exp. drake rider achi solo with each already, since it's giving me sutch a headache. But then again, findings and doing oculus grp x10 doesnt tempt me at all -_-

[Kalros]

I'm using X-perl, so the pet-health percentage is just so fucking small, hard to see who to heal...and i'm just generally failing totally at that setup :/

I tried going X-perl and I had the same issue, I just cant get used to it. The only interface-changing addon that I use is Dominos for my hotbars, and even then, I drag them to the sides and set the size to 65. I HATE HATE HATE clutter on my screen!!!!

[Volch0k]

Well, I like using X-perl for normal use, just that when it's a vehicle healing fight its pure shit.

Tried going 5xAmber now, and even that failed...Oh well, guess I'm just tired, got to train this shit for Make it count - And if i have to solo-run each shaman for Xp-drake rider i don't care about that. Today when i tried for make it count, i had a wipe and ended up at Eregos at 18.40...Just gotta be a little lucky in that fight.

[Kalros]

And just to give some hope, when I got it, I actually had 1 wipe. Luckily, we landed in a convenient spot and I had all 4 resurrections available on the shamen, quick rezzed the Paladin and got right back on the drakes and did it!

[Volch0k]

Had another 2 tries on Make it count, but can't seem to get lucky enough on my first try on Eregos...

I start dps, time stop and keep the rotation up..problem is when i've done the 3rd time stop, i can't do a 4th because of DR, and i still need to go 10-20% more before he goes immune..and in that time whelps spawn..

[Volch0k]

I've been trying going with 2 ruby/3 emerald lately, for Xp-drake rider, but i can't get that shit done...Did 5x amber today trying for 20 min achi, but failed...alltho i got 2 tries, since i end up at eregos at 12-13 min after drako's death.

After several tries i got it, and got XP-drake rider on my main (had the 20min achi on him from earlier) and got red proto on main atleast.

Seems i need more tries on getting 20 min achi on slaves tho..

[Kalros]

Well congrats on getting one! It really just takes practice. If you can get to Eregos within about 13 minutes, thats a good 2 attempts (keep your Resurrections available!) if you're using the 5x Ambers. The key is, get him to do the first Phase shift before summoning the drakes. If you can do that, you're golden!

[Volch0k]

The time i got him down today, i waited about 2 second between each time lapse, but he didnt spawn drakes...those 2 second are really awsome if he doesnt summon whelps..because the 2nd and 3nd time lapse arent that long.

[Fuzzyboy]

I'm having issues with share the love at the moment. I have a mixed team and use the earth elemental to tank, but he's killed so fast there's pretty much no chance of my tank getting impaled while it happens. Can the elementa be spamhealed?

Anyway, I might have to secondary-spec my druid as tank, which means buying a whole set of tanking gear (that's what I get for DE'ing all my purples for gold), does anyone have experience doing that?

/ FB

[Teslah]

I'm having issues with share the love at the moment. I have a mixed team and use the earth elemental to tank, but he's killed so fast there's pretty much no chance of my tank getting impaled while it happens. Can the elementa be spamhealed?

Anyway, I might have to secondary-spec my druid as tank, which means buying a whole set of tanking gear (that's what I get for DE'ing all my purples for gold), does anyone have experience doing that?

/ FB


Good to see you back Fuzzy. I was away for quite a while, but remember you back when I had 5 level 70 Shamans doing Shadow Labs!

Anyway, I did what you mentioned above. I made my druid dual spec. Then I just ran ToC over and over on regular to get him some tanking gear. Then I did it a few times on heroic to get the weap and a few other pieces.

When you go for the impale put everyone in the ring as you come up the stairs with their back against the wall so when he does his charge they stay put. Then take your healer, main tank and druid to the boss. Play the druid and get your mt impaled. Once that happens just drop the druid and play your main tank. You can ignore the druid at this point or have him do some melee. Just remember you need the boss to live until everyone gets impaled.

You'll get it easy once you start trying it. The gear isn't tough to get for your druid with the new 5 man. Just run it on normal a few times to get him some decent tanking gear. You could make a few pieces too.

I thought it was going to be a pain to gear the druid tank, but it went pretty quick. I then was able to use him on other achievements where a second tank helps. It made life a lot easier and getting the red proto go that much faster.

Let me know if you need anything else and good luck.

[Fuzzyboy]

Good to see you back Fuzzy. I was away for quite a while, but remember you back when I had 5 level 70 Shamans doing Shadow Labs!

Anyway, I did what you mentioned above. I made my druid dual spec. Then I just ran ToC over and over on regular to get him some tanking gear. Then I did it a few times on heroic to get the weap and a few other pieces.

When you go for the impale put everyone in the ring as you come up the stairs with their back against the wall so when he does his charge they stay put. Then take your healer, main tank and druid to the boss. Play the druid and get your mt impaled. Once that happens just drop the druid and play your main tank. You can ignore the druid at this point or have him do some melee. Just remember you need the boss to live until everyone gets impaled.

You'll get it easy once you start trying it. The gear isn't tough to get for your druid with the new 5 man. Just run it on normal a few times to get him some decent tanking gear. You could make a few pieces too.

I thought it was going to be a pain to gear the druid tank, but it went pretty quick. I then was able to use him on other achievements where a second tank helps. It made life a lot easier and getting the red proto go that much faster.

Let me know if you need anything else and good luck.

Just got it done with AH-tanking gear. Was a pain though. Fourth try, and the fight took almost 10 minutes. I actually meleed him from 300k to 30k and I was afraid I was going to kill him off with white damage before the last one got impaled, but finally got it. Thanks for the advice :-)

[Fuzzyboy]

Ok, so to defeat Eregos with 5x Amber drakes, start by watching The Moos video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3d7oYaBzUgo&hd=1

Now it doesnt go into much detail as far as macros and whatnot, so here is what I have to add to that video:

-First, I'm a button-masher. And I had to unlearn my button-mashing ways in order to get this right.
-I use a Nostromo n52 gamepad and have it programmed with 2 settings: 1 for normal use, and another strictly for Eregos. I switch it to the Eregos mode right before I engage. Do whatever you like, but thats why I have my keys setup the way I do.
-These are my macros that I have set up on each character:

Lance:
Rift:
Time:
DismountVehicle:
-Stop Time is set to a different key for each character in order to do rotations. You cannot do more than 3 Stop Times before his phase shifts, so time them right, and make them count!


-This is how I have the macros set up on each character (you can do however you want, this is just my layout):

Party1: Ctrl+1: Stop Time // 1: Lance // 2:Rift
Party2: Ctrl+2: Stop Time // 1: Lance // 2:Rift
Party3: Ctrl+3: Stop Time // 1: Rift // 2:Lance
Party4: Ctrl+4: Stop Time // 1: Rift // 2:Lance
Party5: Ctrl+5: Stop Time // 1: Rift // 2:Lance

-As soon as I am ready to engage, I get in range and hit the first Stop Time.
-Then, I hit '1', pause for just a second and hit '2', and go back and forth, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2 etc. Only let a second or two pass in between. If your timing is right, you'll be pulling great DPS.
-All the while, keep your Stop Time rotation going. As soon as the first one wears off, I hit the next one. If you keep him frozen for 3 Stop Times and keep up your DPS rotation, he should do his Phase Shift without summoning any drakes (if he does that, its almost a guaranteed wipe). And once the phase shift is over, you can hit him with 3 more Stop Times. You'll always have 2 phase shifts, but if done right, he'll die right after the 2nd.

Questions?

This worked excellent for me, although I found a 3-4 second pause to work better for some reason. Just got my oculus achievement tonight (not make it count though, but now that I have the eregos-technique down it's hopefully only a matter of time - so to speak, hehe).

Also, I simplified it down to two keys - one with a toggle/round-robin which had the following macro:

/stopcasting
/cast time stop

And another toggle/roundrobin where char1 and 2 would cast rift, char3, 4 and 5 would lance and then the other way around. That way I only had to press two buttons, so I could concentrate on getting the time stop casts just right.

[Volch0k]

Havent tried Oculus in over a week, was so piss'd off not getting Make it Count done. Today it was daily, i thought WTF atleast i will get 2 triumph anyway...Wiped 2 times on boss, ankh rotation bout times and WHAM i got the achi! Was fuckin close to wiping as my main drake was dead (got whelps on before FIRST banish thing).

Now i just need XP drake rider on all shamans \o/

[BobGnarly]

Got "less rabi" on the first real try (previous try I fat-fingered it ;)) thanks to some of the advice here and on the wowhead forums. Basically, it came down to Improved Counterspell, which I just happened to have available to me since I recently swapped my mage main in for a shaman.

I started off kinda slow so that I'd get the first interrupt right before 50%. Interrupted that with wind shear and then proceeded to the 50% interrupt, also with windshear. At this point I just waited for the 5s until the next cast. IOW, I did very little damage to him (he might have been at 45%) so that the cast would be easy to interrupt. At about 4 seconds (1 sec before cast), I blew all my cooldowns, interrupted the cast with Imp. CS, and killed him before he could cast again (you have about 10s).

It would have been much harder without Imp CS, so I guess the best idea would be to try to time the interrupt. <20% health casts are almost instant, don't think you can react with internet lag.

[Fuzzyboy]

Sure thing! And to get Amber Void, follow the strategy on the Wiki: http://www.dual-boxing.com/wiki/index.php/The_Oculus_(heroic (http://www.dual-boxing.com/wiki/index.php/The_Oculus_%28heroic)) , Thats a very good setup also, its just slow going on the last boss (but easier), so not ideal for Make it Count.

TBH I find 2 ruby + 3 emerald a lot trickier than 5 amber. Are there any tips other than the linked thread?

[Dorffo]

3 ruby 2 emerald will pack a bit more punch, 4 ruby with taunt/immune on round robin with 1emerald for heals was my favorite lineup outside of 5 amber.

I was never comfortable with the 3 healer / 2 dps split.

[Fuzzyboy]

3 ruby 2 emerald will pack a bit more punch, 4 ruby with taunt/immune on round robin with 1emerald for heals was my favorite lineup outside of 5 amber.

I was never comfortable with the 3 healer / 2 dps split.

I'll give it a shot with 4 ruby + 1 emerald - what's your setup/rotation? Any special macros? I find it ironic that "Make it count" was easier than amber void :P

[Ridere]

They're making the Oculus easier, too. Increasing the cooldowns monsters/bosses have on certain moves, as well as increasing the bonus your drakes receive from gear. So hopefully this stuff will be easier to obtain.

I still need to gear up a tank before I even attempt it, but that won't be for awhile, as I want to do it with a Paly tank, I guess, and I'm going to get my remaining teams up to 60 first, and palies to 80.

[Dorffo]

I'll give it a shot with 4 ruby + 1 emerald - what's your setup/rotation? Any special macros? I find it ironic that "Make it count" was easier than amber void :P

I run the healer drake as my "main" so I can health funnel as needed quickly.

special setup:
for the Rubies you want to setup your nuke key or targeting macro so that it targets whelps first than Eregos since their beams hit harder after each jump.

Basically its very similar to the 5x amber strat:


optionally open up with the emerald's dmg reduction thingy with the emerald; start nuking with the rubies and spamming poison with the emerald
as soon as the first set of whelps pop out hit taunt on *1* of your rubies followed by evasion as soon as hes got enough charges. I tend to also to mash evasion on the others to help mitigate splash dmg from the arcane stuff.
keep mashing nuke button!
rinse-repeat cycling through your taunts.


I'd say: think of taunt/evasion as equivalent to timestop rotation and I think you'll be set, the emerald is just there to provide the dmg reduction and occasional spot healing as needed (but its difficult to funnel and do the dmg reduction both).

[Fuzzyboy]

I run the healer drake as my "main" so I can health funnel as needed quickly.

special setup:
for the Rubies you want to setup your nuke key or targeting macro so that it targets whelps first than Eregos since their beams hit harder after each jump.

Basically its very similar to the 5x amber strat:


optionally open up with the emerald's dmg reduction thingy with the emerald; start nuking with the rubies and spamming poison with the emerald
as soon as the first set of whelps pop out hit taunt on *1* of your rubies followed by evasion as soon as hes got enough charges. I tend to also to mash evasion on the others to help mitigate splash dmg from the arcane stuff.
keep mashing nuke button!
rinse-repeat cycling through your taunts.


I'd say: think of taunt/evasion as equivalent to timestop rotation and I think you'll be set, the emerald is just there to provide the dmg reduction and occasional spot healing as needed (but its difficult to funnel and do the dmg reduction both).

Thanks much - I'll give it a shot :-)

[Fuzzyboy]

I run the healer drake as my "main" so I can health funnel as needed quickly.

special setup:
for the Rubies you want to setup your nuke key or targeting macro so that it targets whelps first than Eregos since their beams hit harder after each jump.

Basically its very similar to the 5x amber strat:


optionally open up with the emerald's dmg reduction thingy with the emerald; start nuking with the rubies and spamming poison with the emerald
as soon as the first set of whelps pop out hit taunt on *1* of your rubies followed by evasion as soon as hes got enough charges. I tend to also to mash evasion on the others to help mitigate splash dmg from the arcane stuff.
keep mashing nuke button!
rinse-repeat cycling through your taunts.


I'd say: think of taunt/evasion as equivalent to timestop rotation and I think you'll be set, the emerald is just there to provide the dmg reduction and occasional spot healing as needed (but its difficult to funnel and do the dmg reduction both).

Ok, in the process of testing at the moment. One question though - if one drake has cast Martyr (directing all spells to himself), what use is casting evasive on all the others, since they shouldn't be attacked? Is there any reason not to keep evasive up all the time?

[Dorffo]

Is there any reason not to keep evasive up all the time?
You're right keep it up as much as ya can - poorly worded on my part.

I should note that I didn't actually setup a martyr "rotation" so much as just clicking it on the highest-health drake as needed.

[Fuzzyboy]

You're right keep it up as much as ya can - poorly worded on my part.

I should note that I didn't actually setup a martyr "rotation" so much as just clicking it on the highest-health drake as needed.

Great thanks :-) One more question - how did you handle the healing? I tried with a [nochanneling] macro, but it doesn't seem to register dream funnel as a channeled spell, because leech will break it with or without the [nochanneling]?

[Fuzzyboy]

Oh, and another tip for those who may be reading. If you make a "naked" equipment set and equip it once you're mounted, your drake will still have health as if you were wearing the gear, but you wont lose durability if you die :-)

[Dorffo]

Great thanks :-) One more question - how did you handle the healing? I tried with a [nochanneling] macro, but it doesn't seem to register dream funnel as a channeled spell, because leech will break it with or without the [nochanneling]?

Oh ho! Now that you mention it, I did do not-very-tricky rebinds for the dream funnel - just unbound the key[s] on my main actionbar and clicked it as needed on a couple runs.

Edit: It might be easier to just un-link the emerald drake from passed keystrokes for this fight?

[Fuzzyboy]

Oh ho! Now that you mention it, I did do not-very-tricky rebinds for the dream funnel - just unbound the key[s] on my main actionbar and clicked it as needed on a couple runs.

Edit: It might be easier to just un-link the emerald drake from passed keystrokes for this fight?

I find it a bit comical how much trouble I seem to have with this fight, so I hope you don't mind helping out a bit more.

First of all, I can't seem to keep up with the heals. Even with 3 stacks of poison, once I heal up one drake, another is at like 30% health.

Another thing is my macro. For some reason it doesn't always target Eregos. It looks like this:

/target Ley-Guard
/target Greater
/cast Fiery Wrath

The idea is to target the drakes when theyre up and ley-guardian when they're not (strategy (http://www.dual-boxing.com/wiki/index.php/The_Oculus_%28heroic%29)), but for some reason it doesn't seem to work. What macro did you use?

[Fuzzyboy]

Post-script: I ended up getting the Amber Void using two emerald and three ruby drakes. Was pretty random though, I'll see if I can repeat it tomorrow. I would use both emerald to heal, unless I had recently cast the dmg reduction. I lost one ruby at the start of the fight but somehow managed to finish it. If I can do it again tomorrow I'll post a more thorough strategy :-)

[Fuzzyboy]

Ok, it seems that the strategy I found worked again without much trouble. I've completed with both 2 ruby and 3 emerald and 3 ruby and 2 emerald (yay for red proto drake mount). I basically used the setup descriped here:

http://www.dual-boxing.com/wiki/index.php/The_Oculus_%28heroic%29

With one very significant difference, which is that I have 2 dps buttons - 1 for when drakes are up, 1 for when no drakes are up. The reason is that my drake-macro would get stuck for some odd reason (no matter if I was placed so dead drakes would fall all the way to the ground). You can set these up with a click-macro so it works with just one button for dps btw.

Lots of deaths, but finally I have all my oculus achievements - yay :-)

[Aradar]

A little late now that you've done it but I used the wiki setup as well and had no problems with the macros provided once I realized I had to kill the whelps that were already alive around the base below the boss before I started the fight. Otherwise those macros would target those whelps which were out of range and screw me up from the get go.

I've now done it 3 times I think but I need to get back in there and start switching the toons around on the emeralds/rubies for the achievements and try the 5 ambers as well.

[Bollwerk]

When I did the ruby/emerald combo, I had to add [nodead,harm,exists] to my ruby drake dps macros, so that they wouldn't get stuck on the dead adds.

[Multibocks]

Ok, it seems that the strategy I found worked again without much trouble. I've completed with both 2 ruby and 3 emerald and 3 ruby and 2 emerald (yay for red proto drake mount). I basically used the setup descriped here:

http://www.dual-boxing.com/wiki/index.php/The_Oculus_%28heroic%29

With one very significant difference, which is that I have 2 dps buttons - 1 for when drakes are up, 1 for when no drakes are up. The reason is that my drake-macro would get stuck for some odd reason (no matter if I was placed so dead drakes would fall all the way to the ground). You can set these up with a click-macro so it works with just one button for dps btw.

Lots of deaths, but finally I have all my oculus achievements - yay :-)

How do you de-bind the abilities that are given to you? I had this problem in ToC, I couldnt cast a macro action because my ability bar (the horse ones) would default to casting first.

[Dorffo]

Fuzzy: Congrats sir!

Multibocks - the way I did that was simply jumping into master keybinds and unbinding or rebinding the actionbar slot(s) as needed for specific fights.

[Fuzzyboy]

How do you de-bind the abilities that are given to you? I had this problem in ToC, I couldnt cast a macro action because my ability bar (the horse ones) would default to casting first.

No unbinding necessary - I use hotkeynet, so I can assign one key (Q for instance) to send another key (Shift F12). But if you decide to got he bind/unbind route, I can recommend this thread:

http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=26098

Edit: I think I just got what you meant. Just place your macros on another actionbar and make shortcuts for those or use an add-on such as bind-pad.