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suicidesspyder
08-22-2009, 05:09 PM
Now that i have a few minutes to look over to get it came up with something. Do we really have to pay 36 dollars. No matter what i do it says pay 36 to install interspace then i can install isboxer. Any help just want to make sure thats the right thing before i shell out ne more cash.

Redbeard
08-22-2009, 05:12 PM
Somebody correct me if I am wrong, but IS boxer is free. It, however, requires inner space, which has a usage fee.

suicidesspyder
08-22-2009, 05:16 PM
so is innerspace a one time fee or by month or year fee.

Coltimar
08-22-2009, 05:30 PM
You pay for the amount of time you use. http://www.lavishsoft.com/joomla/account/subscribe.php The smart thing to do is to buy IS and then push others to use it an you refer them. Zanthor has his IS subscription paid until his grandchildren come.

suicidesspyder
08-22-2009, 05:43 PM
Well there goes that idea i wouldnt mind paying the 36 dollars like keyclone with 20 dollars but man oh man. Pay for the amount of time i use i would be so broke lol. Oh well guess ill stick with the focus macros.

Coltimar
08-22-2009, 06:34 PM
It's not the cheapest way to go, but it's an excellent product. If you don't get any referrals I think you pay $36 a year.

suicidesspyder
08-22-2009, 07:05 PM
I wonder can someone verify if this is true if its a one time payment. Thanks.

stoat
08-22-2009, 07:06 PM
You can either pay for 3 months or a year at a time. 10 dollars for 3 months or 36 for a year. It's worth every penny.

zanthor
08-22-2009, 07:16 PM
Monthly or Yearly subscription.

suicidesspyder
08-22-2009, 07:52 PM
tyvm for the info i think imma try it out so many people say its awesome so.

Coltimar
08-22-2009, 09:32 PM
Just forget everything you know about any other boxing program you have used and approach it with an open mind. It's very powerful but very different. I liken the difference to the difference in WIndows and Linux. Once you've mastered it the world is your burrito.

suicidesspyder
08-22-2009, 10:00 PM
Yea once i master it holy shmocks. Man i am so lost setting this thing up watching the tutorial and everything at the same time trying to do step by step ewww. I think my brain is wrecked on this one. I try to do it step by step but i got to the set up macro stage and im totally lost now. But what im trying to get is all the modifiers you put in auto click when you have hit your switch keys. Say my main is on f8 then i hit f9 and switch to a new character is the modifier command already being used. Im guessing im needing serious help with this and i aint afraid to ask lol.

Coltimar
08-22-2009, 11:32 PM
I recommend just doing the quick setup wizard and then logging into the game. Remember that you toggle on key Broadcasting with Shift+Alt+R by default and you turn on Key Maps with Shift+Alt+M by default. You will want broadcasting on and key maps off to enter your passwords the first time.

Also, by default your action bar keys 1-= are all set to assist the main toon. So you just need to drop a macro in an action bar slot, say 2 for example, that does your dps spells minus any target acquiring code.

suicidesspyder
08-22-2009, 11:48 PM
Ok ive gotten that far but how do i do the rest. As for mounts and drinking eating round robin all that lol. I mean if i got a cpl key maps helped out a little more then the video i could catch on it takes me a little bit. Kinda slow at first i guess its my minds way of making sure everything is right i think lol.

suicidesspyder
08-23-2009, 12:10 AM
Ok lol thats funny. Keypasses on can do everything and then when i run they all run weird they break follow resume follow hmm. Is there anyway to stop that so that you can still run and then attack. Cause it seems like a pain if i have to keep stop and starting key passes every two secs. Kinda like a do not pass command that the only one that can use wasd is the main screen.

suicidesspyder
08-23-2009, 12:32 AM
If anyone is really really good with inner space and isboxer send me a private message on here and maybe sunday the 23 of aug i know its eaither today or tomorrow for most just dont want any mixups. Someone could give me a little help so i can get this figured out i love the concept and ease of switching and auto follow whoever leader is but i need to add some stuff and do things. So any and all help would be great, once i get it figured out on one pair i can do it on the rest. Just need a kick in right direction but peace night time.

Multibocks
08-23-2009, 05:21 AM
If you want to resume follow after attacking then you need Jamba. It's the bees knees for that. Alternatively you can just enable "click to move" in your mouse options and then spam a DPS key AND your "interact with keybind" button which will make your dps guys face and run after whomever you are attacking.

cybernerv
08-23-2009, 01:39 PM
for mounts I make two mapped keys for master and slave. if they are the same mount it will be easy.

make a new mapped key, call it "mount master"
give it any hotkey you want
click "step 1" and right-click on "actions" and choose "keystroke actions >> new wow macro action"
choose target = window:current
key combonation = whatever you want (i choose the same as the hotkey)

macro generator

/cast Great Gray Kodo

that is it. whoever is the main lead character atm, this macro will work for them. do the same for slave character(s) but choose a different hotkey/key combonation and target = window:w/o current


now if you have different mounts for your characters, you will have to do advanced macros in the macro generator. everything is the same as mount master above except the macro command.

here is what I got for my priests

!if (character is not "slot 2") /cast Swift Green Hawkstrider
!if (character is not "slot 1") /cast Swift Pink Hawkstrider

so if the master has the green hawkstrider it will cast that, or if the master does not have the green hawkstrider it will cast the pink. you can do this for all characters

as for breaking follow, make sure you turn off the mouse repeater when playing. if you do not, all characters will run forward when you push move up etc.

suicidesspyder
08-23-2009, 05:46 PM
Ok my question is as follows: I understand the concept of the map keys yey i press 1 fire a different curse from all locks spam two do my cast sequences on all locks, but how can i accomplish this without having to press shift alt r every time i wanna broadcast keys. I mean with keyclone your able to put a dnp on the wasd keys but cant find a way to do it with isboxer. I have to hit that combo everytime i battle and im done. So is there a way to keep broadcasting on all the time but block wasd from slaves being used. If so is there a way tho that say i click on a different screen and it becomes main that it will broadcast wasd on that screen but no one elses. Just a tad confused. Thanks again i know its alot im asking but im trying to get used to this i love isboxer so far but the set up is a tad more complicated for me then hotkeynet or keyclone was lol.

Fizzler
08-23-2009, 06:12 PM
You should not have to hit the Keyboard/Mouse repeater at all. Using the wizard you should be passing just the dps keys 1 to =

It sounds like you have something messed up. Make sure that each toon is loading the proper config. During startup read the chat window. It should say toon1.config.wtf has loaded. Make sure the toon name is right.

Once you have it up and running than you can look at passing more keys as needed.

suicidesspyder
08-23-2009, 06:40 PM
Ok when i do the wizard then export to innerspace i get this message. So my question is whats going on. I mean do i always have to hit broadcasting to activate the stuff i have on alt+ number amd numberpad and stuff. Sorry this one is confusing and im trying to get it right so i can do the rest of my groups.

http://i511.photobucket.com/albums/s356/himynamesisjay/errorwithisboxer.jpg
file:///C:/Users/Jay/AppData/Local/Temp/moz-screenshot.jpgfile:///C:/Users/Jay/AppData/Local/Temp/moz-screenshot-1.jpg

cybernerv
08-23-2009, 07:31 PM
not sure about that error, maybe you need to log into the characters you first created to make sure they have files for them in the Wow WTF folder. then you can try the wizard.


as for brodcasting, you need to have keyboard broadcasting on if you want to broadcast keyboard keys through all instances of Wow. turn on mouse broadcasting when you are turning in quests so all your toons can click on the quest giver or doing an aoe spell. otherwise leave it OFF. if it is on and you try to run all toons will run(in different directions) and might get stuck running back and forth automatically.

if you post your isboxer config file, then we can take a look at it and suggest things and help you better:)

suicidesspyder
08-23-2009, 07:59 PM
Lol now it decides to focus one character and not the one im on wt heck is that. Oh well i guess imma keep at it and see what i can do. You never learn till you keep at it just need to get over what runners call the wall.

Whowantstoknow
08-23-2009, 08:03 PM
Ok when i do the wizard then export to innerspace i get this message. So my question is whats going on. I mean do i always have to hit broadcasting to activate the stuff i have on alt+ number amd numberpad and stuff. Sorry this one is confusing and im trying to get it right so i can do the rest of my groups.



It looks a bug in the current build it is slightly confusing but should not cause any issues. Basically ISBoxer does not know that you are using a merged Battle.net logon. You should not be using mouse/keyboard repeat - the only time I use this is to type in my password 5 times. You should be using Keymaps which if you have run the wizard it will allow you some basic functionality "out of the box" just drop spells on actionbar 1 and you should be up and running in less than 5 mins.

Decadence
08-23-2009, 08:06 PM
Ok when i do the wizard then export to innerspace i get this message. So my question is whats going on. I mean do i always have to hit broadcasting to activate the stuff i have on alt+ number amd numberpad and stuff. Sorry this one is confusing and im trying to get it right so i can do the rest of my groups.

http://i511.photobucket.com/albums/s356/himynamesisjay/errorwithisboxer.jpg
file:///C:/Users/Jay/AppData/Local/Temp/moz-screenshot.jpgfile:///C:/Users/Jay/AppData/Local/Temp/moz-screenshot-1.jpg

You don't put the realm in there, take the realm out of the name and the config file.

suicidesspyder
08-23-2009, 08:15 PM
Like i said yea 1 thru = works fine but now i want to work on the round robin using my numberpad keys and alt 1 thru alt = conisdering thats my buff key binds and eating drinking and mounts. The problem i had before i fixed i erased the characters and profile and redid wizard without account name in field. Now it works annd doesnt give me that stupid error was just a thought on my end. I also talked to lax about this and he wasnt aware of the battlenets not working right with it and was gonna fix it. Although i will admit im starting to like isboxer alot well worth the 36 dollers nothing bad about keyclone great product. Like i said started with hotkeynet seems like the begginer way to make sure you like boxing without spending money great product too, then to keyclone 20 dollers good for intermediate when you like boxing and want more functionality great prodcut, and now for more advanced and those that wont leave boxing isboxer so far great product as well with more functionality then keyclone. So like i said zero dollars then 20 dollers then 36 dollers and you get more with each up in price. But like im seeing now more hands on and more work with the more money thats why im looking for more help lol.

Whowantstoknow
08-23-2009, 08:34 PM
The trick to using modifier Keys is to make sure that the maps you use do not clash with any of the FTL keys For example you cant pass alt+key to your alts as there is a good chance that this is already being used but you could probably pass alt+ctrl+shift+key as this is not in use by default

suicidesspyder
08-23-2009, 08:48 PM
Ok when looking at the dps keymaps they all have target:window current keymap general mapped key ftl assist me then 1 all is window all w/current key combo 1 up to = depending on the dps button. It also only shows me under the key map general control and ftl. None of them have a two button alt and number key combo. Some have like three for shift alt r for broadcasting but nothing else not sure if theres another way to see if i am using a two key map.

suicidesspyder
08-23-2009, 09:42 PM
Haha i figured a short cut dont know if it messes everything up. I was watching the tutorials over n over again and noticed something. I went into repeater profiles and made default into locks for ease. Next i went into the whitelist/blacklist options. Selected option Blacklist which is repeat keys if they are NOT selected below. So in my small brain i said hmm select WASD and export. Wewt it works i can hit any combo and it works. Even when u have mousebroadcasting always on lol. It seems a little confusing at first but as long as you click in the screen you want to switch to they become main screen and wasd works for them but not for other screens. Very nice shortcut but i guess this is just a stupid persons way around it. One thing is why is my focus always staying on one target is it not switching unless i hold down a certain modifier. Wierd but i can be on my main account and it says focus another account but they all still attack the target.

suicidesspyder
08-23-2009, 10:17 PM
Ok well ill give this a try again on wednesday ive been watching the tutorial over n over again and starting to understand a little bit but bed is calling. Gotta spend my next day off allday with this grr hate working two jobs lol. But if anyone can help answer this why when i click on a different screen it says that guys master but still staying focused on another toon. Say i invite with my main and switch to my alt it will say alt 1 is now leader but alt 4 is focus. Then if i hit screen alt 5 it still says alt 4 is focus hmm, and alt 5 becomes lead. What i am saying is there a way to keep it from changing leaders so main stays lead no matter what screen you clik on and when you click on a screen they become focus thanks. Talk to you all later ill try and get on and check this out during my days thank god for cell phone internet lol. Also if anyone is good and wants to post a profile to my email or give me an indepth overview to help out some more email is twisted_life69@yahoo.com. Like i said imma spend all day wednesday getting this set up on my locks but if everything goes fine imma set up my druids dks and shamans and mixed groups as well. Thanks again.
Sincerly,

Puzzled dumb and confused

Multibocks
08-23-2009, 10:21 PM
you'll get it eventually. Everyone starts out at ground zero. It took me about two weeks to have an "ok" setup. Now I think mine is much better and I like how I perform with it.

Fizzler
08-23-2009, 10:33 PM
Did you check that each toon is using the correct config? The new version of ISBoxer fixes this as it now matches username with config.

During startup what is the config in the chat window?

cybernerv
08-24-2009, 01:38 AM
here is my config, maybe you can get an idea on how to set it up.

when I push numpad * it switches to my main and slave follows, when I push numpad - it switches to the slave and makes her the main and the other priest is now made slave and auto follows.

this config is only for my 2 priests, I like to make a config file for my characters I want to group together and save the config and export it to innerspace. then lets save I want to play my druids, I load my druids config in isboxer and export to innerspace, then play my druids. this way it is a little more organized and you do not have 100's of keymaps what not :)

well good luck to you

Chilaxx
08-24-2009, 10:10 AM
I've got a question about isboxer too..

Those who work on it, do they intend to keep developing it and make it better, or are they just gonna sit back and let the money roll in? ^.-

Svpernova09
08-24-2009, 10:25 AM
I've got a question about isboxer too..

Those who work on it, do they intend to keep developing it and make it better, or are they just gonna sit back and let the money roll in? ^.-


It's constantly under development. The dev, Lax, is also working on the IS2 Engine + multiboxing app. So he's hardly sitting back :cool:

Whowantstoknow
08-24-2009, 04:21 PM
Haha i figured a short cut dont know if it messes everything up. I was watching the tutorials over n over again and noticed something. I went into repeater profiles and made default into locks for ease. Next i went into the whitelist/blacklist options. Selected option Blacklist which is repeat keys if they are NOT selected below. So in my small brain i said hmm select WASD and export. Wewt it works i can hit any combo and it works. Even when u have mousebroadcasting always on lol. It seems a little confusing at first but as long as you click in the screen you want to switch to they become main screen and wasd works for them but not for other screens. Very nice shortcut but i guess this is just a stupid persons way around it. One thing is why is my focus always staying on one target is it not switching unless i hold down a certain modifier. Wierd but i can be on my main account and it says focus another account but they all still attack the target.

Its recommended that you do not use the white/blacklist and use keymaps instead even if it does take a lot more getting used to

BoxingGeeks
08-24-2009, 04:40 PM
Come on its only $36 for a great product... Hell you cant even take your fat girlfriend to a buffet for that price.....

suicidesspyder
08-26-2009, 07:44 PM
Ok i think im done with isboxer seems nice and all but its aggravating me to much. It will switch leaders on me keep focus on one character wont always dps. Press number 2 main will cast none others will and i used quick setup. Also i can switch screens and they will follow on 3 characters but 2 wont have ne one follow them. So meh w/e i dont have the time to deal with aggravation yet i want to play and have fun but seems like my one day has been stuck trying to get this to work. I started to add different keys for my locks like mount send pets pets follow, but still havent gotten the round robin idea and the stuff at the beggining.

Fizzler
08-27-2009, 12:31 PM
Ok i think im done with isboxer seems nice and all but its aggravating me to much. It will switch leaders on me keep focus on one character wont always dps. Press number 2 main will cast none others will and i used quick setup. Also i can switch screens and they will follow on 3 characters but 2 wont have ne one follow them. So meh w/e i dont have the time to deal with aggravation yet i want to play and have fun but seems like my one day has been stuck trying to get this to work. I started to add different keys for my locks like mount send pets pets follow, but still havent gotten the round robin idea and the stuff at the beggining.

Did you ever verify the right config is associating with the right toon?

Prepared
08-27-2009, 10:47 PM
Just forget everything you know about any other boxing program you have used and approach it with an open mind. It's very powerful but very different. I liken the difference to the difference in WIndows and Linux. Once you've mastered it the world is your burrito.

Since you seem to know about it and I couldn't find a support forum on their website, could you answer what I believe is a simple question about it?

I had it all set up complete with the way I wanted my keys, mouse, etc, except for one thing I couldn't get working. I use multiple machines and the mouse broadcasting in Inner Space to all clients on all machines is awesome. That's the reason I was looking at it to replace what I'm currently using which is Octopus. The thing is, occassionally, I need to use the mouse to go over to another machine in a specific instance in the game and work from that instance. For a specific quest for example. With Octopus, it has a true KVM where the mouse just scrolls over to the other machine and I even even use macros in the game to set my focus so that instance character can be my main. What Octopus doesn't have, that works anyway, is the ability to use the mouse in all instances at the same time.

So my question is, how is Inner Space configured so that I can use the mouse in any instance on any computer? Does Inner Space have this ability? ISBoxer seems to have many different options to control every single detail of keystroke you want to configure in the game. I don't really need all of that. I just use the mouse broadcasting and set only a few keys that I don't want to pass. So all of that FTL stuff, I don't have configured. In reading over the ISBoxer documentation and viewing the youtube videos on it, it seems that there is an awful lot of configuration that is not necessary for WoW given that WoW has a pretty extensible macro capability already. The documentation for ISBoxer says it has a KVM, but I couldn't get it working so that I could use the mouse to scroll over to a specific instance of the game on any computer screen. Any help in this area would be appreciated.

Thanks.
Prepared 50 account multiboxer on Aegwynn.
Currently have 25 accounts with level 80s. The rest have levels 70-72.

Fizzler
08-27-2009, 11:00 PM
Since you seem to know about it and I couldn't find a support forum on their website, could you answer what I believe is a simple question about it?


http://www.lavishsoft.com/forum
http://www.lavishsoft.com/chat/isboxer.php

Silence
08-28-2009, 06:00 AM
2 things.

1. That bug with the battle net accounts has been solved.

2. I hear in multiple places that you need mouse repeating for quest turn ins and accepts. This isnt true. I have "interact with target" bound to ` and it sends to all windows.

So I move close to a quest giver and click that button. All characters will open the quest window and with Jamba make the same choices as the main window does (Accept/decline/loot). With this same keybind you can make all your characters loot items from corpses. Just make sure to spam it a few times as you will get "object is busy" cause you loot at the same time. I also use this keybind to start attacking on all windows, this frees up key 1 for other stuff.

The only thing it doesn't do for me, is turn the character. I've read that some people use "interact with target" for this... but it doesn't work for me. Can anyone elaborate?

Right now I can't think of any reason to have mouse repeating on except for targetted aoe spells, choosing talents and putting new spells in your bars.

Sam DeathWalker
08-28-2009, 05:06 PM
Prepared, Send a PM to Lax I am sure he would love to have you using his product.

I would be using it but Keyclone works good enough for me.

I have a workaround (alt tab lol) for screen switching so Keyclones main problem isnt effect me.

I did use Lax product in EQ1 though.

http://www.dual-boxing.com/member.php?u=17358