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Multibocks
08-14-2009, 10:44 PM
MMO-Champion posted some new stuff:


None of the information below has been officialy announced by Blizzard, this is only a compilation of information gathered from reliable sources. Just keep in mind that it takes a LOT to make me post something on the front page and I'm definitely not speculating here.

Other sites started it, I'll try to finish it. Think twice before you read this post, we have a lot of spoilers here.

Update - Another update from the Something Awful forums (which are sadly private). I cannot confirm this for the moment but the part about Cairne Bloodhoof does make a lot of sense.

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Azeroth is changed completely. Some zones are completely destroyed, some are shattered, some are flooded (Thousand Needles), some are ripped in half. Coastlines the world over are changed. Durotar is wrecked, along with Orgrimmar, which is torn in two. A new orc city is rebuilt over the course of the expansion. Gnomes retake Gnomeregan in an instance.

Malfurion comes back and helps activate the new Guardian of Tirisfal - Thrall. Thrall hands over leadership of Horde to Garrosh Hellscream while Thrall serves as a coordinator for both Horde and Alliance forces and players to combat the Naga and Black Dragonflight. Garrosh declares open war on the Alliance, and you can expect more Wintergrasp like areas on the old map. Due to some political manipulations, Cairne Bloodhoof gets painted as a betrayer and is murdered by Garrosh. Cairne's son takes over as Tauren chief.

For Worgen, the Cataclysm brings the Greymane wall down, revealing their secret -- that the worgen curse has ravaged the kingdom. They've managed to find a cure that keeps their human mind permanently but also keeps them in their worgen form. Seeing that they can no longer survive alone, the worgen residents of Gilneas rejoin the Alliance.

As for Goblins, Deathwing calls on the goblins as slaves like he has in the past. Their leader decides to go with Deathwing and enslaves his people because there's no crossing Deathwing and surviving. Fortunately, a large group manages to escape and join the Horde, knowing that they can't go it alone. See the pattern here?

The level cap is 85. New landmasses include islands that are raised as a result of the cataclysm, underwater zones, and the newly-redone old-world zones. Flying mounts will be useable in Azeroth. Many old-world dungeons are changed completely.

Half the point of Cataclysm is to remake the old quest lines, eliminate redundancy and give an overall narrative to all players, whether level 1 or 80. At any particular vanilla area, you can expect to see reconstruction/relief efforts, or all out war between Horde and Alliance NPC's. Wailing Caverns is going to be completely redone into a lush green tropical area, as a result of the druids working their magic to prevent it from falling into lava.

Leveling from 80-85 will be a MUCH bigger deal. Initially in 2008, they considered not raising the level cap at all, as making those quests takes a lot of manpower away from raiding content. But they are trying to make the story so grand and sweeping that ding'ing will actually MEAN something and not just be something you do. An idea that was kicked around was making the tier gear go along with levels.

Expect a couple of underwater cities to be on the backs of giant sea turtles and whales.

Make no mistake, the Old God content is not done. Since Netharion and Azshara both have ties to Old Gods, it is now clear that the SERIES wide antagonists of WoW are the Old Gods.

As I said, the part about Cairne makes a lot of sense because in the latest PTR Patch, all the quests given by Cairne's son have been removed from the game and a new NPC has been created to take his place. Cairne's son is missing from the current version of the game. (You can find more information about this in Ahmo Thunderhorn - replacement for Baine Bloodhoof?)

Stay cautious about this one, only what I posted below should be 100% accurate.


World of Warcraft - Cataclysm

World of Warcraft: Cataclysm is the next expansion for World of Warcraft. Dark and forgotten threats that have long stayed out of sight have finally arrived on our shores, unleashing a cataclysmic event upon Azeroth and now preparing more nefarius plans to take it back.


New Classes
The expansion doesn't have any new class. Instead, Blizzard will offer more race and classes combinations to players, some of them have been datamined on the 3.2.2 Test Realms.

Human Hunter
Orc Mage
Night Elf Mage
Dwarf Mage
Blood Elf Warrior
Dwarf Shaman
Undead Hunter
Tauren Paladin
Tauren Priest
Gnome Priest
Troll Druid

Level Cap
The level cap in the next expansion will be slightly lower than expected this time around; 85.

This suggests Blizzard wants more room for expansions before hitting the level 100 cap. With less leveling to do (along with the revamped leveling listed below likely to increase the speed and ease of leveling), leveling a new race remains appealing for new and existing players alike.


New Races
The events of the cataclysm has caused two new races to seek new allies. The Goblins for the Horde and the Worgen for the Alliance.

Goblins
The Goblins have found themselves washed upon an island off the coast of The Barrens, their islands devastated by the cataclysm. As they strive to recover, they come across an Orc captured on an Alliance ship and rescue him. The Orc turns out to be none other than Thrall himself, and in return offers the Goblins a place within the Horde. These events are carried out in a quest line, allowing players to experience first-hand the reasons behind the Goblins' shift from neutrality.

It is unclear if the old Goblin locations such as Kezan and Undermine will be included in Cataclysm with the revelation of the Goblins' displacement.

Worgen
The cataclysm has cracked open the Greymane Wall, finally revealing what has happened to the kingdom of Gilneas and its citizens. The Worgen have ventured forth from Gilneas and sought help from the Alliance, deciding to join them to combat the new threats of Cataclysm.

Gilneas will make extensive use of the phasing system (much like the Death Knight starting area), to show what happened while the kingdom was cut off from the rest of the world and lead up to present day.

Last but not least, Worgens will have two forms and will be able to morph between a human form and a worgen one. Players should be able to pick both appearances when they create their character.

New Content
Cataclysm will be the first expansion not to introduce a new continent, instead making use of previously unreleased zones and revamping existing ones.

Classic Azeroth Revamp
A cataclysmic event caused by Deathwing and Azshara will change the face of Azeroth as we know it. Most of the new content for Cataclysm will take the form of a revamped Azeroth, taking advantage of newer additions to WoW such as phasing and daily quests. Most of the quests and mobs in the classic zones will also be redesigned to make leveling less painful. Some zones will change drastically to fit this, e.g.,

The Barrens will be split into two separate zones of two different level bands.
Azshara will become a low level (~10-20) zone.

Flying in Azeroth
Part of the redesign of the Eastern Kingdoms and Kalimdor is the introduction of flying to the two continents, allowing access to many new areas and quicker travelling across the large continents.

Unreleased Zones & Dungeons
With the addition of flying mounts to Kalimdor and the Eastern Kingdoms and the redesign of many zones, most of the previously unreachable or incomplete zones will now be made available to players. This is where most of the new content from 80 to 85 will take place. Some of these are,

Hyjal (present)
Gilneas - The Worgen starting Zone.
Uldum (Most likely as a dungeon)

Classic Dungeon Revamp
Redesigning Onyxia's Lair in Patch 3.2.2 was just the first step. As most of the leveling will take place in revamped areas of Azeroth, so too will the dungeons, allowing players to use them to level from 80 to 85.

As far as I know, Ragnaros will also be back in this expansion.

Deathwing
Deathwing the Destroyer / Neltharion the Earth-Warder will play a major role in Cataclysm. Having been driven mad by Old God whisperings and turning against his own kind only to be fail in his attempts, Deathwing has sunk into the shadows. While the Horde and the Alliance were busy fighting back the Burning Legion only to then be beset with the Scourge, he has been lurking and moving things into place. After Lady Sinestra's failed attempts to create a Twilight Dragonflight, he again retreated to Grim Batol and succeeded where she failed. With his results seen in the Obsidian Sanctum, he has finally created the supreme Dragonflight he sought and plans to unleash it upon the world. But what of the Old Gods' sway over him?

Azshara
Queen Azshara will also play a major part in Cataclysm. Unknown to many mortal races, long forgotten by others, and believe to be dead by her own kind, she has not been dormant in depths of the Maelstrom. Having those around her transformed by the Old Gods into Naga after her failure in the War of the Ancients, she has become far more powerful and a greater threat than she once was. Not content with just Nazjatar and the depths of the sea, Azshara seeks to reclaim power and reign once again. With the true plan behind Lady Vashj's support of Illidan remaining a mystery we do not know what hand Azshara has yet played. The big question remains, is she now serving her "saviors", the Old Gods?



OMG OMG Gnome priests!!! Tauren priests?! Human hunters oh my!

voodoogriff
08-14-2009, 11:06 PM
. . . WTB More Characters per Realm PLZ

emil_Gebl94
08-14-2009, 11:10 PM
Seems fake?

voodoogriff
08-14-2009, 11:22 PM
If it were elsewhere, I might be inclined to agree with you. But MMO-Champ is usually exceedingly reliable.

alcattle
08-14-2009, 11:23 PM
even if half true, it will be soooooo cool, a Ally Shaman that isn't a goat head :cool:

Zal
08-14-2009, 11:51 PM
Fake untill proven true by blizzard.

Korruptor
08-14-2009, 11:57 PM
Seems like a very reasonable way of recycling old content. Very creative, I like it!

Bena
08-15-2009, 12:06 AM
gnome priests!! and tauren paly!! yay! though they better make the level RAF speed.. I don't have it in me to level again.. unless Azeroth is 'really' different

Ughmahedhurtz
08-15-2009, 12:33 AM
I won't be happy until I can play tauren rogues.

mmcookies
08-15-2009, 12:48 AM
i hope it's real, cuz it reads like my list of wow wishes come true (but missing gnome druids)

then again it could all be somethingawful trollen wow

either way i'm excited about blizzcon now

Greythan
08-15-2009, 01:00 AM
Horde gets the crappy goblin model and Alliance gets a shape shifting cool-arse model worgen?

Ouch, that sucks imho.

Would LOVE to have a Tauren Pally but won't want to level that up. Can you do race/gender changes? Might switch my female BE pally to male Tauren pally and my Tauren shaman to an orc as I don't have that race currently.

Very cool stuff in that spoiler. Thanks for posting.

Malekyth
08-15-2009, 01:09 AM
I doubt it a lot. I can't get past the claim that two new mask textures in time for an event that will not yet have two new races, means we must be getting two new races. Those mask textures would be for an event fourteen months away at minimum! So why add them now? The dude who concludes playable Worgen and Goblins from Hallow's End masks, does not seem to have reliable sources.

Khatovar
08-15-2009, 01:30 AM
I am so making my paladin into an orc. Now, can I have a goblin druid so I can see around my boomkin's over-fluffed ass?

lans83
08-15-2009, 02:37 AM
I'm just so damn excited about Azeroth getting a revamp and "Old-World Flying" as I call it. Way too damn much unused space in the oldworld continents, but time they do something about that. Just hope that when flying straight from Booty Bay to Ghostlands, I don't fly into any invisible walls in the sky, I'd feel like a pigeon flying into a skyscraper :/

Malekyth
08-15-2009, 02:41 AM
From WOWOracle.com:

Hey Osaarians! I just got back from a long meeting with two of my best sources, both of whom have given me oodles of 100% accurate inside World of Warcraft information in the past, but decided to one-up themselves by delivering a truckload of amazing WoW secrets that Blizzard doesn't want you to know yet! Obviously I'm duty-bound not to reveal the names of these sources, because one is the head producer of World of Warcraft and the other is Activision's Vice-President of Marketing, so they could get into a lot of trouble if we're not discreet! Listen in as we reveal:

WORLD OF WARCRAFT: THE SUNDERING OF OBLIVION! That's right, WoW:SO is the next expansion, and it's coming Q1-Q2 2010.

New Leveling System:
WoW:SO will, as rumored, raise the level cap to 85. What you haven't heard is, there are twelve new levels between 80 and 85! That's right, Blizzard decided that they want to cram even more adventure into the short space of time leading up to the big 100, so WoW:SO will introduce the new Fractional Leveling System. You level from 80 to 80 1/2, then on to 81, and then 81 1/2, and so on, until 84. Then you level in thirds: 84 1/3, 84 2/3, until finally you hit the new cap at 85. But wait, didn't I just reveal that WoW:SO will have twelve new levels? This is the amazing part: once you reach 85, you get to level to 85 again. It's like a free level! This is a major change, but don't worry, you'll get new spells and talent points at each fractional level just like before! But that's not all: starting at level 81 1/2, every full level you will automatically be eligible to buy one of the new level mounts.

Level Mounts:
Did I say level mounts? I believe I did! I only know of three, and can only imagine the coolness yet to be revealed. Slither into battle on your new Lava Worm! Leap at the foe astride the vicious Shadow Frog! Defy gravity on the sticky feet of the Mecharantula! With the new level mounts, you'll have that Mountain O' Mounts before you know it.

Revamped Unarmed Combat:
Because YOU demanded it, WoW:SO will feature a completely new system of unarmed combat that will make even the most battle-hardened pugilist gasp at the brutality of it all! Three new martial arts fighting styles and knockout blows are on their way. All classes can learn any of the three unarmed fighting styles -- Pandaran Limb-Bouncing, Ogric Smashuku and The Dark Mambo -- but only Warriors, Rogues, and another one (wait for it!) will be able to raise their martial arts skills to Master level. Martial arts allow you to deliver floating kicks, vicious hammer blows, dainty nerve-pokes and spinning Zeppelinkicken with bone-shattering force ... all with the chance of an incapacitating knockout, during which short time the victim's pockets can be rifled for loot, just like a rogue's pickpocketing skill!

Class-Based Profession Animations:
I've been waiting for this for a long time! Now your profession animations are completely class-based. Mages blast chunks of metal out of the ground with torrents of arcane force! Priests demand that valuable herbs uproot themselves with the power of will alone! Rogues mix poisons with their very own hands!

New Class!!!!:
To all you doubters, I hope you're feeling properly shame-faced right about now, because the Osaarian Oracle was RIGHT! Yep, the new class is official, and it's the MYRMIDON! From the dusty wind-swept fields of carnage, the blood-soaked arenas and the stygian dungeons of Azeroth comes the Myrmidon, master of battle. A plate-wearer who can wield all weapon types, the Myrmidon fills many battlefield roles. He can be a slow-hitting but monstrously powerful brute in PvP. Or he can take up two weapons at once, becoming a hacking, slashing whirlwind of steel! Or when the situation demands, he can strap on his sturdy shield and wade into the fray as a nigh-indestructible tank. The Myrmidon comes with a brand new energy mechanic, called Wrath. When he hits a foe, or is hit himself, he generates small amounts of Wrath that he can use to unleash destruction! Stay tuned as information about this exciting new class develops!

No New Races :(
Sorry guys, there are no new races in WoW:SO ... but with so much else going on, I doubt you'll even notice!

Well that's it for now! Keep watching this site for more incredible information about the new WoW expansion, The Sundering of Oblivion! And remember: it's all true!!!

Simulacra
08-15-2009, 03:22 AM
Obviously I'm duty-bound not to reveal the names of these sources, because one is the head producer of World of Warcraft and the other is Activision's Vice-President of Marketing, so they could get into a lot of trouble if we're not discreet!

lol - well I guess blizz will have absolutely no idea who leaked it then ha ha ha ha

lans83
08-15-2009, 03:35 AM
From WOWOracle.com:

New Leveling System:
WoW:SO will, as rumored, raise the level cap to 85. What you haven't heard is, there are twelve new levels between 80 and 85! That's right, Blizzard decided that they want to cram even more adventure into the short space of time leading up to the big 100, so WoW:SO will introduce the new Fractional Leveling System. You level from 80 to 80 1/2, then on to 81, and then 81 1/2, and so on, until 84. Then you level in thirds: 84 1/3, 84 2/3, until finally you hit the new cap at 85. But wait, didn't I just reveal that WoW:SO will have twelve new levels? This is the amazing part: once you reach 85, you get to level to 85 again. It's like a free level! This is a major change, but don't worry, you'll get new spells and talent points at each fractional level just like before! But that's not all: starting at level 81 1/2, every full level you will automatically be eligible to buy one of the new level mounts.

God I hope this part is a joke. Fractional Leveling System!? And wth does 100 have to be the end level cap? I don't ever remember the RPG Gods ever setting this in stone for us to abide by. It's like pointing at the moon and telling someone that stepping on it can not and shall not be done.

MultiMacBox23
08-15-2009, 04:12 AM
Seems like a very reasonable way of recycling old content. Very creative, I like it!

But will the original Vanilla-WoW content be gone for good?

or

Will they expand on the Phasing concept and make 1-78(maybe80) Vanilla-Wow, and then move you into the Phased-Azeroth for 81-85??

Seems odd they would totally kill off the old world. Especially for people who come to the game late, and havent played through the old Azeroth all the way yet.

Just a bit to think about.

sixzandsevenz
08-15-2009, 04:20 AM
I won't be happy until I can play tauren rogues.

Dude, that's just wrong.

heffner
08-15-2009, 04:28 AM
Sounds pretty damn amazing. If it isn't real, the person who formulated should probably go work for Blizzard.

IME, as games progress the old world zones get changed and the newbie levelling areas get concentrated. So, it's likely they will make 1-60 even easier and shrink down the zones you need to level in. Afterall, vanilla wow is HUGE. Although, it would be a shame to lose all those quests they developed.

ELBA
08-15-2009, 06:55 AM
mind = blown

seriously, this sounds like the coolest expansion yet

QFT

I will miss roaming around the old world. Strolling along and remembering the good times. I still go back and stare at the light house in Westfall. However now the old world will never be the same. We will never be able to go back and enjoy the history that was there.

I do like the new classes. Gnomes never had a healer. Undead hunter? I'm guessing that the pet turns undead too in some way.

I bet all the leveling guides will be at it to make some more money. 1-85 7 days played $19.95 lol.

Overall, all I can say is WOW!

Whowantstoknow
08-15-2009, 07:24 AM
I am slightly annoyed at the new class combinations if Blizzard continue to not let us change races. While I love Druids I can not stand Taurens. I would reroll Troll druids in a flash but that means levelling 1-60 again this time with no RAF I was about to level my 5xdruid team to 80 too >_

kernel.k
08-15-2009, 08:39 AM
wont the have to rebuild azeroth to make flying possible? i've seen some vids of a private server where the flying mount was in stormwnd. you can flyover and under the whole framework. i dont think this is real.

MarkHR
08-15-2009, 08:58 AM
rumour meet speculation, speculation meet rumour

Either way seems interesting, better get some of those old world achievements while you still can.

Multibocks
08-15-2009, 09:33 AM
The WoW Cataclysm General Discussions forum is now available. per MMO-Champion. So to the naysayers, I say "in yo face."

jettzypher
08-15-2009, 09:41 AM
some aspects seem good, but idk what to think...ill wait to see more solid info come out.

Bigfish
08-15-2009, 09:52 AM
Whole thing sounds fishy. Has the expansion even been officially announced, or are we still jumping all over something that passed through a trademark office?

Diwa
08-15-2009, 01:16 PM
Gnome Warrior
Gnome Mage
Gnome Warlock
Gnome Warlock
Gnome Priest

Can't wait to have this team!

palvarik
08-15-2009, 03:05 PM
hopefully the worgen can be druids so ally has 2 choices like the horde

mmcookies
08-15-2009, 03:52 PM
hopefully the worgen can be druids so ally has 2 choices like the horde

no, it has to be gnome druids!

Smoooth
08-15-2009, 04:24 PM
Would a troll druid have tusks in cat and bear forms? And how come tauren can get rid of their horns in travel and swim forms but not cat, bear, or moonkin forms?

Mokoi
08-16-2009, 04:28 AM
hmm, Fur is obviously being sarcastic, and I wholeheartedly agree, this is a waste of my time and I will be quitting this shitty game if this is what they unveil at BlizzCon lol

c'mon you really want to play WoW 1.0 again? heads up, it wasn't very good. This won't be better...

I am not amused MMO-Champ.

Starbuck_Jones
08-16-2009, 06:13 PM
If Thrall no longer runs the Horde, hes got time to date Jana now and make a new race of half orcs!

Malekyth
08-16-2009, 08:32 PM
This is loltastic. Its written in a way that makes it sound fake, and anything with "pandaran" in it is almost guaranteed to be fake.

Confirmed as fake ... I wrote it. :P I thought the joke was more obvious, but 90% of the time I'm wrong about that sort of thing!