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[Meathead]

Hey just wanted to show the new SSD drives coming out that are amazing ive planned to get myself 256GB one at the end of the year. Could see my 5xWoW's load in under a second :D Well this is what they can do and in what speed if your looking to buy one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96dWOEa4Djs Should Watch!

[Kalros]

I'd love to go SSD. Are they still crazy-expensive?

[Meathead]

Yea they are crazy expensive but I tell ya what they are worth it. if you want instant loads as we all do hate waiting...but for 256gb it will cost me $800 :( but still its not about cost its about TIME :D

[Siaea]

Hah, I love one of the comments..."I need to change my pants."

Yea, those are pretty wicked looking. How long have they been out (as in, how long before us normal folk can buy one for a decent price)?

[Siaea]

And holy shit - the guy defrags an SSD? (thats bad if you know anything about SSDs)

I'm gonna flaunt my noobishness about the newest hardware and ask why that's bad. . .

[gitcho]

Traditional HD's get the best performance when the data is stored in sequential chunks on the platter (ie. the head doesn't have to move all over the platter to read a block of data), but as data is written to the disk, it is not always stored in continuous chunks (may not be free sectors on that part of the platter). Defragging rearranges the data in sequential chunks.

The file structure on SSD's are mapped to relatively random locations due to wear leveling techniques used by the manufacturers to increase the lifespan of the SSD. If you defrag, you'll be doing a whole bunch of reading and writing to move stuff from one random order to another random order, causing wear to the flash in the process.

[Barelan]

I wonder how that would compare to havening extra ram dedicated to disk cache? - wouldn't that be cheaper?

[Meathead]

Yea Fur he has a awsum rig but i got a decent one also ) I have 2 raptor drives and they are fast but if you are crazy about PC's like me and want speed you would get one. Back in the day I spent $2400 on 2 8800 Ultra when they first came out. and SSD is going ot be like the new Quadcore's when thye get released. For your info SSD will be released at the end of the year. Also i think he defraged it just to show the speed they would not care if they destory it. im sure they got plenty but missleading customers to defrag SSD is were it will go wrong. fogot the mention i have 6 harddrives in a raid on my server pc but they will never compare to that. But yea they are way over priced atm but they will drop like everything in the Computer market does :P :(

[jak3676]

They aren't that bad anymore. Consider that for multiboxing WoW you can get all you need to in a 32GB drive if you either open from the same .exe or symlink. A cheap 32GB SSD is just about $100 and a "good" 32GB drive is only $120. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820609392 64GB drives are under $200 and 120GB drives are under $300.

Sure if you want to fit your entire network storage into flash memory, you're going to go bankrupt. But the cost that most of would need isn't that bad (i.e. we spend more on 2 months of multiboxing WoW, or a CPU upgrade or a GPU upgrade or 12GB of DDR3...)

[Bovidae]

They aren't that bad anymore. Consider that for multiboxing WoW you can get all you need to in a 32GB drive if you either open from the same .exe or symlink. A cheap 32GB SSD is just about $100 and a "good" 32GB drive is only $120. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820609392 64GB drives are under $200 and 120GB drives are under $300.

Sure if you want to fit your entire network storage into flash memory, you're going to go bankrupt. But the cost that most of would need isn't that bad (i.e. we spend more on 2 months of multiboxing WoW, or a CPU upgrade or a GPU upgrade or 12GB of DDR3...)

^THIS

The newest offerings from OCZ and the like are reasonable enough for mid-level users who do not want terabytes of flash storage. Considering write limitations (that affect lifespan) on these products, I would only recommend using this type of storage for primarily read-only files i.e. WOW\DATA. Not WOW\WTF, not the OS, not temporary internet files, thats what Raptors are for.

I'm perfectly happy with my WD Caviar 1tb for movies, pictures and music. It reads fast enough for those purposes

[Fizzler]

Do you guys realize how UNREALISTIC that youtube video is? You completely failed to mention the extreme amount of fancy hardware in that rig besides the 24 SSD drives.

Seriously people, get a clue. Unless you win the lotto, that is not an option.

And holy shit - the guy defrags an SSD? (thats bad if you know anything about SSDs)

Dont' get me wrong, I'm excited about SSDs too, and can't wait for them to be affordable. But that video.... oh man. Talk about off the mark.

The guy defraged an SSD that did not cost him anything and he was willing to jump and down on a trampoline with. True SSD'd do not need degfragging they can access all parts of the drive at the same time. Defrag writes like crazy and would just get you closer to your write limit.

The only unreasonable hardware might be the custom memory other than that most of the stuff on there is not that far out of reach. I have had top of the line computers before and am looking at building one now. The only unrealistic thing is well 24 drives at $700 a pop.

[Eggy]

Traditional HD's get the best performance when the data is stored in sequential chunks on the platter (ie. the head doesn't have to move all over the platter to read a block of data), but as data is written to the disk, it is not always stored in continuous chunks (may not be free sectors on that part of the platter). Defragging rearranges the data in sequential chunks.

The file structure on SSD's are mapped to relatively random locations due to wear leveling techniques used by the manufacturers to increase the lifespan of the SSD. If you defrag, you'll be doing a whole bunch of reading and writing to move stuff from one random order to another random order, causing wear to the flash in the process.

Not to mention SSDs dont overwrite the data stored in the cells(normaly) so if you format and/or defrag a drive you will see reduced performance since the drive will have to first empty the cell being written to and then write to it. It's actualy quite a large problem with the current technology.

I'm not sure if they've fixed that with the new generation coming out, but it was still a problem 5 months ago when I bought mine from Vertex.