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Jafula
08-10-2009, 03:18 AM
I'm working on Jamba-Proc as part of the Jamba 0.5 release and I'd like to release the addon with a good set of defaults.

Jamba-Proc is an addon that will display a message on the masters screen when a slave gets a proc (new or refreshed).

Screenshot of proc messages. (http://wow.jafula.com/images/extforums/jambaproc1.jpg) (Jamba is configured to use Parrot's notification area in this case.)

The addon needs the following:
1) The name of the spell;
2) The text to display on the master.

So far I have one entry...

Name: The Art of War
Text: Free Exorcism!

If you would like a proc added to the defaults, please reply with the name of the spell and some appropriate text and I'll see what I can do.

RobinGBrown
08-10-2009, 05:01 AM
I just levelled a couple of warriors from 60-70 last week and I'd really have liked to see the following procs:

Overpower
Execute
Revenge

I think just displaying the same text as WoW does would be best, not something like 'Time for Execute!'.

Zal
08-10-2009, 05:08 AM
Mage:
Hot Streak - Instant Pyroblast
Missile Barrage - Arcane Missiles
Brain Freeze - Instant Fireball

Druid:
Eclipse - ______

DeathKnight:
Rime - Howling Blast

Warlock:
Nightfall - Instant Shadow bolt

all i can think of.

Jafula
08-10-2009, 06:18 AM
Sweet thanks! I have added all your suggestions in. More welcome.

Khatovar
08-10-2009, 07:54 AM
Clearcasting = Omen of Clarity for Druids, Elemental Mastery for Shaman

Greythan
08-10-2009, 08:16 AM
Notifications for me are suboptimal versus a persistant ui element like a timer.

With all that goes on sometimes, its easy to miss a notification.

Could you have an option to make the notice persistant, possibly with a timer?

I use DoTimer on my mage solo and get that type of notice for missle barrage and love it.

MaltheMM
08-10-2009, 08:21 AM
When Art of War procs I tend to use Flash of Light if you could change the Free Exorcism! to Free Exorcism/Flash of Light! or something similar, I'd be grateful

Jafula
08-10-2009, 08:30 AM
Notifications for me are suboptimal versus a persistant ui element like a timer.

With all that goes on sometimes, its easy to miss a notification.

Could you have an option to make the notice persistant, possibly with a timer?

I use DoTimer on my mage solo and get that type of notice for missle barrage and love it.

The new Jamba uses "Message Areas". Currently areas are default chat, party, guild, parrot, mikscrollingbattletext and some others. (I can integrate with other addons if requested). I should be able to add an new area that displays a persistant message like you ask.

Having said that, I *think* that parrot and mikscrollingbattletext implement this functionality (persistant and timer) already, so you could just use one of those addons (turn off all the defaults and Jamba will still use the scroll area you select in Jamba's message area configuration).

Jafula
08-10-2009, 08:31 AM
When Art of War procs I tend to use Flash of Light if you could change the Free Exorcism! to Free Exorcism/Flash of Light! or something similar, I'd be grateful

In the final version, you'll be able to add your own / change the message.

Clone
08-10-2009, 09:01 AM
This might be asking too much but would it be possible to have an icon come up eg. The eclipse icon with the name of the character next to that. Also pretty obvious but make the size of the icon and text scaleable. Thanks :-)

Jafula
08-10-2009, 09:25 AM
This might be asking too much but would it be possible to have an icon come up eg. The eclipse icon with the name of the character next to that. Also pretty obvious but make the size of the icon and text scaleable. Thanks :-)

Hmmm, I'm relying on Parrot / MSBT to provide the nice display functionality. If you want it you'll need to install one of those addons (or request support for another addon that provides similar functionality).

Parrot and MSBT lets me add an icon, change font, color and font size, so I'll make an effort to add those to the GUI for proc.

Alternatively you can add your own scroll area in Parrot/MSBT and configure it the way you like it and choose that scroll area in Jamba (not sure that you would get the icon).

Tonuss
08-10-2009, 09:54 AM
Shaman/Mage - Clearcasting
Hunter - Lock and Load, Improved Steady Shot
Paladin - Infusion of Light

Trick
08-10-2009, 10:24 AM
I'm just going to throw this out there and see if it sticks...

What about having the toon's name in the Jamba Team window replaced by the proc text, for a configurable amount of seconds? Maybe even a flash or something for when it happens?

I could see that being useful if you wanted to be aware of procs on the alts, but be more focused on procs occuring on the main.

Fat Tire
08-10-2009, 10:30 AM
I know this is not a proc off an alt, but 1 thing I would love to see is a option for bigger notification when followers break follow.
Flashing screen, bigger font or something would be great. I know we have a smaller notification and the red/green squares, but sometime I need to be hit in the head.

Thanks again for a great addon!

ciscokid454
08-10-2009, 01:43 PM
Warrior:
Bloodsurge

Owltoid
08-10-2009, 02:13 PM
I can't help but mention that I posted a mod that does this only a day or two ago......and now you're trying to incorporate it into Jamba?

Proculas was the mod I posted (I don't think anyone else has every used it for monitoring alt procs).

It seems a lot of mods that this community finds are slowly getting combined into Jamba. (StealYourCarbon, auto repair mods, auto sell junk mods, etc).

Keep jamba slim, don't bloat it up. Its going to get too hard to manage.

I agree. Jafula is already implementing so much that if something is possible with another addon then people should really try to use the alternative.

Jamba already solves so many of the multiboxing issues and I'd hate to have Jafula burn out on the project due to its ever increasing size.

Greythan
08-10-2009, 03:45 PM
Jafula just modified it
Wow, way to minimize what was probably a ton of work and HIGHLY useful work to the community.

Not sure where you're going in this thread, Fur. If you are personally concerned about getting too "tied" to an addon, then turn off the features you'd rather outsource to another addon. I, for one, applaud Jafula's work and look forward to continued development. There are certain integration benefits here like simply disabling Jamba when soloing to turn "off" multi-boxing functionality when soloing.

JU1CYFRU1T
08-10-2009, 04:18 PM
First,

I understand what Fur is trying to say (at least I THINK I understand...). His concern (and mine) is that Jamba will get so large and bulky that the average n00b won't even WANT to take the time to configure all of the options. It would be a shame for someone new to multi-boxing (like me) to pass up Jamba due to it's VAST configuration.

I don't want to have to spend 4 hours trying to configure an addon... I want to PLAY. I am not saying that I think Jamba is getting too large, or that I don't want THIS feature... just that this is what I am getting from Fur's posts. If I am wrong, I appologize.

With that said, I would like to request that there be an option to make this "proc-warning" a /rw just like a broken-follow and being attacked.

To address the request of something more obvious for broken follow, could you add a "full-screen-pulse" when these things happen (like pulling agro)? That would make it all but impossilbe to miss (asside from the /rw.... ROFL)

Owltoid
08-10-2009, 05:03 PM
I disagree with Fur's stance that Jamba is just repackaged work of others. It's not like Jafula is just putting in every mod under the sun, and his compilation and original work is one of the most useful multiboxing tools we have. For example, I don't know of any other addon that may allow us to keep all of our slaves in the same "party" while in a BG or in different raids (already implemented).

However, I also share Fur's fear that Jamba will become too large and too much of a project for Jafula to maintain.

Greythan
08-10-2009, 05:12 PM
So step in and provide an addon to alleviate the feature list that Jafula is working on addressing. The reality is the universe of multi-boxer addon developers is microscopic.

I'm missing the point here: If he's being asked for more functionality and is willing to add it into his addon and continues to do so in a pretty modular way, why would we tell him "Stop!"? Any Jamba user already runs the risk that he "burns out" and stops supporting the code. Its part and parcel to using any addon.

Ughmahedhurtz
08-10-2009, 05:12 PM
My gripe is that its just becoming a compilation of addons, tied together in a way that its not modular to the normal user.
/looks around

What normal users?

Greythan
08-10-2009, 05:16 PM
/looks around

What normal users?
Exactly. Setting up even the easiest software platforms for multiboxing is more complex than dealing with Jamba.

Zal
08-10-2009, 05:27 PM
Average multiboxer is still a bunch smarter then normal players. I think we can handle a "complex" addon. And if you can't, well.... just don't use it.

Jafula
08-10-2009, 08:08 PM
I hear all your concerns. Trust me, I'm well aware of burn out. I make an effort to keep Jamba alive through patches (the old 0.4 branch) and build something better.

I've been doing this for a year now with little reward apart from the my own satisfaction, the odd donation and the positive feedback I get from this site. Half of the stuff I add to Jamba for others, I don't personally use, but others find invaluable. It is a lot of work...

Fursphere, you are right. Jamba is bloated. I have heard your request for Jamba Lite and I have made it. You wanted Jamba with the quest and taxi parts only. Now you have it. Go get it (or don't). (http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=23377) Please post some feedback _praise_ if you like what I have done...

Jamba 0.5 is properly modular; there is a core component that you need, but that is light, with no display functionality. Modules are now proper addons that you can enable / disable as you see fit.

I've also made a big effort to simplify the UI and have sensible default options.

Slayde
08-10-2009, 09:39 PM
I hear all your concerns. Trust me, I'm well aware of burn out. I make an effort to keep Jamba alive through patches (the old 0.4 branch) and build something better.

I've been doing this for a year now with little reward apart from the my own satisfaction, the odd donation and the positive feedback I get from this site. Half of the stuff I add to Jamba for others, I don't personally use, but others find invaluable. It is a lot of work...

Fursphere, you are right. Jamba is bloated. I have heard your request for Jamba Lite and I have made it. You wanted Jamba with the quest and taxi parts only. Now you have it. Go get it (or don't). (http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=23377) Please post some feedback _praise_ if you like what I have done...

Jamba 0.5 is properly modular; there is a core component that you need, but that is light, with no display functionality. Modules are now proper addons that you can enable / disable as you see fit.

I've also made a big effort to simplify the UI and have sensible default options.

Jafula, 0.5 is sounding really cool. Thanks so much for all the hard work you put into Jamba. It is much appreciated!

DrChaos
08-10-2009, 09:56 PM
/agreed. cant wait for the updates.

Jafula
08-10-2009, 10:45 PM
/agreed. cant wait for the updates.


You can try parts of 0.5 now... (http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=23377)

Jafula
08-11-2009, 06:04 PM
I know this is not a proc off an alt, but 1 thing I would love to see is a option for bigger notification when followers break follow.
Flashing screen, bigger font or something would be great. I know we have a smaller notification and the red/green squares, but sometime I need to be hit in the head.

Thanks again for a great addon!

With 0.5, you can create message areas. If you use Parrot or MikScrollingBattleText, you can use these addons to make your own scroll area with whatever size text you like, whatever sound you like. In Jamba, you then select this scroll area for your message area and configure Jamba-Follow (not in the test version of 0.5 yet) to use that area for its warnings.

A screenshot of the config screen is below:

http://wow.jafula.com/images/extforums/jambadevmessage.png

Jafula
08-11-2009, 06:06 PM
First,
With that said, I would like to request that there be an option to make this "proc-warning" a /rw just like a broken-follow and being attacked.


You can configure proc warnings to be raid warnings, see screenshot in post above.