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Nepida
08-06-2009, 06:16 AM
Ok I have to log out and log in almost every time I want to view a forum or post. Am I completely missing something? I'm using firefox 3.5.2 and I swear to god I have never had more trouble before. I've tried clearing cookies but its possible I missed some so any help is appreciated. Heck I'm willing to deal with this but if I don't have to then thats a bonus :)

Specifically, I will be logged in and then click on something such as "General Discussions" and it will show up as blank, it is only after I relog that I can actually see the threads in that group. In addition I have to go to "http://www.dual-boxing.com" to log in, if I try to log in elsewhere it doesn't seem to work.

I do have no-script in firefox however I do allow dual-boxing.com.

Nax
08-06-2009, 06:24 AM
I had a similar problem. I went back to my bookmark and it was pointing to http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/... etc. and when I come to the new forums it did something like: http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums.php/forums.php. I changed the book mark, to point to: http://www.dual-boxing.com/ and the problems have seem to disappear.

-Nax

Svpernova09
08-06-2009, 09:34 AM
Ok I have to log out and log in almost every time I want to view a forum or post. Am I completely missing something? I'm using firefox 3.5.2 and I swear to god I have never had more trouble before. I've tried clearing cookies but its possible I missed some so any help is appreciated. Heck I'm willing to deal with this but if I don't have to then thats a bonus :)

Specifically, I will be logged in and then click on something such as "General Discussions" and it will show up as blank, it is only after I relog that I can actually see the threads in that group. In addition I have to go to "http://www.dual-boxing.com" to log in, if I try to log in elsewhere it doesn't seem to work.

I do have no-script in firefox however I do allow dual-boxing.com.

Like Nax said, make sure you're not using old bookmaks. Please read the OP in this thread, it has lots of info about the changes: And We're back - Updated with some FAQs - Please read this before posting any issues (http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=23048)

Moorea
08-06-2009, 02:30 PM
Supernova could redirect the most common "bad" entry points but he doesn't want to :-) prefers answering 'support' problems with people who do have basic old bookmarks which don't work anymore [well if they were giving a pure 404 that would be ok; but they render a functionally broken site instead... which is quite strange... maybe the issue is there are old files/directories/symlinks/config from the old forums that need to be removed on the host ?]

(one way to find such a list is check the server logs for instance - or run the old setup on a side box if it's forgotten, or just collect the url above as a starting point; it won't cover 100% but if it covers even 60% of people's bookmarks it's a win)

Note that the problem isn't only people's bookmark but search engines:

for instance a google search for "jamba slash commands" returns:
http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=15082&l=2
which renders the site but in a way where all forums are "empty" after that
which is really really bad (will get this site rank go down and user experience very bad ... and the site which tries to hijack us may well benefit from that... so all in all I think it's something worth a bit of work to make work better)

Svpernova09
08-06-2009, 03:06 PM
Supernova could redirect the most common "bad" entry points but he doesn't want to :-) prefers answering 'support' problems with people who do have basic old bookmarks which don't work anymore [well if they were giving a pure 404 that would be ok; but they render a functionally broken site instead... which is quite strange... maybe the issue is there are old files/directories/symlinks/config from the old forums that need to be removed on the host ?]

(one way to find such a list is check the server logs for instance - or run the old setup on a side box if it's forgotten, or just collect the url above as a starting point; it won't cover 100% but if it covers even 60% of people's bookmarks it's a win)

Note that the problem isn't only people's bookmark but search engines:

for instance a google search for "jamba slash commands" returns:
http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=15082&l=2
which renders the site but in a way where all forums are "empty" after that
which is really really bad (will get this site rank go down and user experience very bad ... and the site which tries to hijack us may well benefit from that... so all in all I think it's something worth a bit of work to make work better)



RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^www.dual-boxing.com
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http://www.dual-boxing.com/$1 [R=permanent,L]

Redirect 301 /forums http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums.php
Redirect 301 /forums.php/index.php http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums.php

These are the redirects we've been using since I pushed the site live, and people STILL manage to end up at wrong / bad URLS. There are no symlinks / directories or anything laying around. You don't 404 when you do a site move, you use 301 redirects. I've been watching access / error logs and system performance 15-18 hours a day since we went live. I'm very well aware of all the URLs people are coming in on, and I've tried to do the most generic catch alls we can without overreaching.

I'm not worried about search engines as they will reindex us. It'll be ok. The site rank will not go down forever. You seem to not understand how engines work, so please refrain from the doomsday stuff, the sky is not falling. When you have HUGE link pop, you can get away with bloody murder. Considering all of our search ranking is based on pure link pop, and not any type of natural SEO done on the site before now.

Please be a bit more knowledgeable next time you decide to say what I am doing, or what I am choosing to do.