Jousting and You: The unbelievably simple guide

[jimbobobb]

For the life of me I honestly have no idea why people are having so much trouble with this, so here it is. disclaimer: this is not the 'best' way to do this, this is not optimal. This is button smashing at it's finest, literally rolling your hammy fist across the keyboard like you were some kind of fat fingered idiot. And it's easily enough to do any kind of jousting, heroic or normal. I have never failed with this method in regular (ran it 3 times yesterday and 7 today trying for that stupid trinket), and I have never failed in heroic (once yesterday once today) besides dieing once between the two parts. There is NO FINESSE OR SPECIAL TIMING OR TRICKS HERE. LITERALLY SMASH THE BUTTONS.

PREREQUISITES:
Download Bartender, or Macaroon, or whatever

Make two buttons for all your toons and bind them to some keys

button one:

/assist <main>

button two'

/follow <main>



Zone into Trial of the Champions
buff up.
put your guys on horsies. There is a big wooden door in the side of the room. DO NOT take the 3 horsies there. That is where you will set up for the fight, and you want those horsies in case your horsie dies. (It's pronounced horseeee)

Talk to the guy in the middle

move your guys over next to the big wooden door (this is where the champions will come out of). Put your slaves between two fresh horsies, backs to the wall Don't ever move them. Wait forever for the dialogue to finish. When tirion fordring says 'begin', 3 sets of easy mobs will move into the middle. If you're back against the wall they will not aggro you. Get 3 stacks of shield up on all your guys (hit 4 3 times)Run up with your main (the rest are still backs against the wall) and target one. hit your assist key. Now all your slaves should be targetting that one. CHANGE YOUR TARGET ON YOUR MAIN. Smash button 2. You have now hit the shield off that guy. Change to the third one (the one your slaves are not targetting) and hit 2 again. In this way all their shields will be down when they get to your slaves, as your slaves will take off the first guys' shield when you run them back to the group. Run back to your slaves and START SMASHING THE 1, 2, and 4 KEYS. ALL TOGETHER. SMASH SMASH SMASH. When one dies, target another, hit your assist key, and SMASH THE 1, 2, and 4 KEYS. ALL TOGETHER. SMASH SMASH SMASH. Repeat. Do this for the next group of 3.

Ok, you have killed the first two sets of 3 easy guys. Your main guy had all the aggro, so his horse is at maybe half life, prob a bit more. Run over and get him a new horse. There is no time between killing the 3rd set of 3 easy guys and the champions so just go ahead and do it now.

Pull the last set of 3 easy guys just like you did the first two. Smash smash smash.

THE CHAMPIONS

As they head over, target one. doesn't matter which. hit assist, and SMASH YOUR BUTTONS 1, 2, 4 SMASH SMASH SMASH. You can move around with your main, but bring whichever you have focused to your slaves for meleeing, and can move your main out a bit to break their shields. Your main will probably lose his horse sometime. Good thing you are standing next to two fresh ones, right? When the champion goes down, target a new champion and SMASH SMASH SMASH. Run your main over the one champion that fell over every now and again - this 'tramples' them and doesn't let them get on a new horse. Repeat for the second and third champion. If you lose another horse, hop on the one right next to you again. If a champion gets back up on a horse, just focus them again and get them down quick. They get back on at something like 20% life only anyway. Congratulations, now they are all dismounted. Switch to your basic tank and spank. If you die between the dismounting, and the tank and spank, don't worry when you run back they're dismounted and you just smash them into the ground. If you have the undead guy he does a poison vial throw that puts a green puddle on the ground - don't stand in it. None of the others have done anything that I have to worry about at all.

TIPS AND TRICKS

There are none. Don't move your slaves. Put them against the wall. Smash on the numbers 1,2,4 like a retard. Don't hit the number 3.


Grats on 5 abyss crystals

[shaeman]

Great writeup. So simple even a fat fingered idiot like me could do it. :)

[warbringer]

Epics Ahoy! Time to loot that instance for all it's worth (and get myself an unlimited supply of Abyss crystals :-) )
Much appreciated!

[KvdM]

I see a lot of people reverting to the older leader and focus based systems for using vehicles. Adding extra keys for following and assisting a focussed char or assisting/following a char directly by name. I guess getting FTL to work for vehicles, isn't as common knowledge as I thought it would be.

[heyaz2]

For the life of me I honestly have no idea why people are having so much trouble with this

Because it's not intuitive and it's clunky, annoying, and difficult to orchestrate because the mounts move funny. I envy you, that you stumbled upon the right method very quickly - I wasted 4 hours tonight trying different methods, as well as forum suggestions, and none of them worked even remotely well. The figure 8, the alts on the wall, and the "if you get dismounted just grab another one" - while I'm being chain trampled... yeah that worked out really well.

Spent about 600g in repair bills, but I'm not finished... I'll give these methods a try and see what I come up with... thanks for the post.

[heyaz2]

. Your main will probably lose his horse sometime. Good thing you are standing next to two fresh ones, right?

How does this work exactly? In reality I just get chain trampled even if the mount was only 2 feet away from me. I'll have 3 trample debuffs on me at once, and then they'll go apeshit and kill me once I'm out of stun.

[Simulacra]

this is on heroic? I tried heroic and although I was able to get through the first couple of waves with your great method I kept losing my target on my main for some reason so I couldn't remember which one I was supposed to be bashing as they were all intermingled with my team, the mobs were definitely going down well - guess I'll have to check keybinds and go farm some gold for repairs lol - thanks for the tips!

ok turned out to be a /cleartarget in my assist - I got through the 3 waves easily this time but the champions just wore me down, I only managed to kill 2

I noticed when doing the champions that they all ran over to my team even though I was the only one shield breaking and when they got to them there was an error message on my team screens like: cannot see target
when I was trying to melee I sometimes seemed to be the only one doing any damage.

tried on normal as well - no difference. 250g on repairs

I can see how this should be very easy because when the team did connect they went down pretty quick.
be great if someone made a vid of this because I'm obviously doing something very wrong

[Smoooth]

If your mount is getting low on hp don't wait to be dismounted. Ride over to a new mount and get it. If you get dismounted remember that this will also clear your toons focus'.

[jimbobobb]

How does this work exactly? In reality I just get chain trampled even if the mount was only 2 feet away from me. I'll have 3 trample debuffs on me at once, and then they'll go apeshit and kill me once I'm out of stun.


My main is my tank. He can normally survive a few hits while I just spam click the horse.

[jimbobobb]

this is on heroic? I tried heroic and although I was able to get through the first couple of waves with your great method I kept losing my target on my main for some reason so I couldn't remember which one I was supposed to be bashing as they were all intermingled with my team, the mobs were definitely going down well - guess I'll have to check keybinds and go farm some gold for repairs lol - thanks for the tips!

ok turned out to be a /cleartarget in my assist - I got through the 3 waves easily this time but the champions just wore me down, I only managed to kill 2

I noticed when doing the champions that they all ran over to my team even though I was the only one shield breaking and when they got to them there was an error message on my team screens like: cannot see target
when I was trying to melee I sometimes seemed to be the only one doing any damage.

tried on normal as well - no difference. 250g on repairs

I can see how this should be very easy because when the team did connect they went down pretty quick.
be great if someone made a vid of this because I'm obviously doing something very wrong

Yes this is on heroic. I really don't know why you aren't connecting. If they are literally backed right into the wall, there should be nowhere to face but forward, and the mobs should be in their field of vision. try tapping your interact with target key real fast for a bit of facing maybe?

[cmeche]

Prob im having is that the champions charge my group.....and its basicly over. 1 at a time they back up and charge demolishing one of my guys at a time. By the time they wipe my 4 guys out i have 1 of the bosses at half health........im doing something wrong but cant understand what.

[Crel]

I had problems the with the few attempts made, Downloaded macaroon which is a new addon for me. Still had problems however I am assuming its because there is somthing wrong with my macaroon setup. For some reason it seems to work fine outside on the dummies, but when i get in the arena it stops working? Really frustrating have to tab spam my targets, just for a fail after 5 mins. I WILL GET THIS TO WORK!

[warbringer]

Tried this method and succes on the first try! Although I was too slow to swap weapons and pick up the 3 champions but doesn't matter as you don't have to do the mounted combat again if you've defeated them before.
Edit : just cleared normal mode. Gonna farm that for a bit before doing heroic but it's basically more of the same.

[jimbobobb]

Prob im having is that the champions charge my group.....and its basicly over. 1 at a time they back up and charge demolishing one of my guys at a time. By the time they wipe my 4 guys out i have 1 of the bosses at half health........im doing something wrong but cant understand what.


You need to be smashing 1,2, and 4 TOGETHER. This will keep your shields up on your toons, it will shield break when the mobs are at range, and melee when they are nearby. A single charge and a few hits shouldn't be enough to take out a character unless they aren't keeping their shields up, or maybe it was your main who was already low. In which case just jump on a new horse on your main. This will clear aggro and they will target another character. I've never had to change horses more than once during the fight on my main, and once again on another character. Just cleared it again on heroic using this smashing method.

Again, there is no trick here. You don't try to 'time' your button smashings or pick individual abilities. Just put your fingers on 1, 2, and 4 and non-stop press them all together.

[Multibocks]

So easy a caveman could do it!

[heffner]

I suggest doing the citadel dailies for a while if you haven't. It might help a bit because running all five on vehicles pretty much sucks IMO. You get more used to it after doing those dailies. That's where I learned not to press "charge" for example =).

The hardest part is keeping them trampled IMO. I didn't even know I had to do this at first.

Also, I read this instance has been very buggy (e.g., invulnerable champions). Not sure if that is still the case or not.

[Malekyth]

For the life of me I honestly have no idea why people are having so much trouble with this

Thanks for the post. I'm sure it will help most people. But to answer the question (rhetorical?) ... some people's setups don't immediately accept the easiest solutions, and so they're having trouble. Like, I could add an assist key (I don't usually use one) and make a new follow (because my usual one will retarget the leader and then cleartarget altogether), but then I'm left with all the keys within reach of my left hand being translated to hotstrings en route to my alts. This is all eventually fixable, and I eventually worked it out, but it's not necessarily obvious.

(I hope I don't sound like I'm annoyed -- I'm not. It's just slightly grating to get to add "wtf? It's so EASY!!" on top of existing frustration, when our playstyle doesn't insist on everyone having the same UI. It's like when people slap their foreheads at people running warlocks or something, and say, "DUDE! I can't believe you're having trouble with that! Just spam grounding totems!" :) )

[jimbobobb]

Sorry, a lot of what i put in my first post was kinda tongue in cheek. Didn't mean to offend anyone!

[ciscokid454]

I was messing around the other night, waiting for a group of friends to do that instance, and solo'd all the waves up to the first sets of boss's, Never had to change horses, this was on normal mode mind you

[Stealthy]

(It's pronounced horseeee)

LOL! :D

Thanks for the guide Jimbo. My only suggestion would be to throw in some pics to help people get an idea of where to position themselves.

Cheers,
S.

[Greythan]

Tried Jimbo's tactics tonight on easy.

Won the first time then promptly died when switching to "on foot".

Great guide. Thanks. :)

[alcattle]

bump a great tip post!!

I did my first ToC last weekend. Herioc mode at that. Mind you, I had never been to the Tournement grounds. They had to tell me how to get on a horse. They had to show me the portal, and where to find it after I died (got good at that one). There are 3 shields?? It was real bad, and of course, I was dead when they finished the Black Knight.

Well now I did the dailies for the first time and figured out most of it. Wow, it can be sort of fun. Now to get the boxers up to 80 so I can have 5 times the fun :o

[Zamok]

I finally cleared this on normal. My biggest mistake is I was using mouse to steer on the mount, it makes turning for me so much slower. Used the wasd keys and found it so much easier and faster to turn.

Not sure if will help other struggling with this maybe its my aussie ping.

[Otlecs]

I'm doing ok with this, but man it's tough on the hand! Maybe Im smash, smash, smashing at too high a frequency or something. but it really hurts by the time I've burnt them all down!

I tried replacing the 1,2,4 smash with a single button castrandom smash instead but that just didn't work at all for some reason.

Has anyone successfully manged to distill this three button encounter down into a one buitton encounter yet? :)

[Zzyzxx71]

Would setting up a /click setup for this work at all?

/assist %tank%
/Click VehicleBtn1
/Click Vehicle Btn2
/Click Vehicle Btn4

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