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Sychosys
07-26-2009, 08:59 PM
I am hooked, there is no going back to single boxing after all this. However it has become fairly apparent that I need to rethink my set of addons to better suit this new style of play. Things like party layout never mattered cause I soloed the game about 90% of the time. So, what I am looking for here is a set of up to date addons that I should use or consider using. Since this is opening up a flood gate of OMFG I am going to just list category sections and get recomendations within each of them. Please let me know

Multibox Assistants
I dont think there is much need for debate here. Its Jamba. Get it love it and roll with it. (Even if some of the automatedness of it worries me at times)

Bar Replacement
I have used quite a few of these starting with Discord Action Bars, then Bongos and now Dominos. However, I am tired of having to write #showtooltip /cast [target=focustarget] Name Of Spell for every ability I get. I have seen addons like Macaroon mentioned that you can set [target=focustarget] as something the bar or button will always do so all I have to do is drag my attack spells to that bar. Since I have to do these setups for 5 characters every time this is annoying as hell. With Dominos I just create a default profile, cut/paste the lua data file to the other WTF folders and the Poof, I have a basis. But to my knowledge you can not have the extra macro added into the actions. Macaroon's interface is ungodly.. I do not care what anyone says click this go here hover there scroll this click on that this button alters that state this check box opens that menu WTF... If the creator of this mod is on these forums than I am sorry but Jesus this was a horror. Bartender isnt much better. The descriptions of everything make no sense. I suppose I should have seen the 150 pages of response to its announcement as a warning. Please give me another option or try to explain away the horrors of these bars, hehe.

Map Replacement
This is pretty much Carbonite but I would like it to work nicely. If someone has a setup they like and doesnt mind posting config steps Id like it. The other post I have on here has some good info on how to set up this mod nicely but I could use some more. Also is there any word of making it nicer with handling group quest tracking?

Bag Replacement
I like OneBag and OneBank, they work well but as I read they muck up with Carbonite a bit.

Quest Assistance
QuestHelper, Carbonite, QuestGuru, Tour Guide, Lightheaded.. What else? QH looks to be getting some nice revamp work on it but they have pretty much ignored my request for a /qh show and /qh hide to be added as a part of the mod so I have to rewrite the lua file every time I update it. Carbonite puts the quest stuff on its big mini map and I really liked that. I loved Quest Guru's ability to track all quests done BUT!!! I found out that Jamba screws with it!! My main shows 250 some odd quests done, my slaves show 14!! I can almost guarentee that those 14 are ones I messed up the windows on and had to complete manually
Party Layout. If I use Carbonite for the up above listings I am pretty sure that QuestGuru and QuestHelper need to go away.

Party/Player Frames
Oi, I forgot about this. Whats a good layout like the one Mosg used in his boosting video so I can see all the info more explicitly? I have found that I can not just go to curse and see which addons they have had most downloaded all the times where multiboxing is considered :)

Just to harp on Carbonite a bit more (Please note that why I am ragging on this addon so much is cause it seems so useful but just has some very annoying properties with it). Please someone tell me there is a way to change or turn off some of the parts of it. It has a pals list and a punks list, nice, but does it also have to have embed the other social displays within it? Now when I want to see who is online it takes up my entire screen with that background just to show me the normal wow box inside of it.. WTF?

Anywho,I am looking for which action bar mod to go with in priority. I spend almost an hour as is setting up a set of characters, Id like to avoid that and make changing a play style not require this.

Solon
07-26-2009, 10:45 PM
Boxer Assistant: Jamba, absolutely

Bar Replacement: I have yet to see the need. I liked Bartender 3, nothing else was better than Blizzard's IMO.

Map Replacement: Other than Atlas for instances, none. Carbonite doesn't do enough to justify having it with QH, and can't replace it.

Bag Replacement: EngBags (Takes a little setup but is extremely powerful, sorts inventory for you!)

Quest Assist: Questhelper, TomTom, Tourguide, AutoItemStartQuest, (opens that quest pickup right away so you know to get one on your alts!), MobMap, Overachiever

Party Frames: Pitbull

Others: TitanBar (great info, gets buttons off your mini map), VanasKoS (track who ganked you so you can get revenge when you are less than 10 levels under them), SuperDuperMacro (macro share and longer macros), Smartbuff (set one hotkey and spam to get your toons to cast all thier buffs!), Pawn (set your scales to help you pick your gear [lot of setup]), GFW_FeedOMatic (feed your pets with one hotkey!), BadBoy (auto report spam on goldsellers), AGT (Goblin therapist for those annoying whisperers), Auctioneer (duh!), Enchantrix (help with the D/E of crap you make with your other toons), Recount (damage meter, can tell who isn't keeping up or if someone isn't doing anything lol), OpenAll (opens all your mail with one click)

Jafula
07-26-2009, 11:11 PM
I like this game.

Boxer Assistant: Jamba :)

Bar Replacement: None, use default UI.

Map Replacement: Cartographer 2

Bag Replacement: ArkInventory

Quest Assist: MobMap

Party Frames: X-Perl

Other: SmartBuff

Khatovar
07-27-2009, 12:08 AM
Mulitibox - Jamba

Bar - Dominos. It does all I need it to do, easy rebinding, easy resizing. As far as Macros, just save your whole "#showtooltip /cast [target=focustarget] ..." in notepad and copy paste it to WoW as needed. I even write out entire macro sets in Notepad to copy/paste, especially if I run more than 1 of the same class. Makes for easy changes and works as a backup.

Map - I use Cartographer + Chinchilla + Gathermate. Oh, and SilverDragon for raretracking.

Bags - Um, MoveAnything. All I need from my bags {and most everything else interface-related} is that they not be frickin' huge and taking up my whole screen. Everything else I can keep track of on my own.

Questing - nQuestLog + Lightheaded. nQuestlog gives me easy quest status tracking with audible updates, chat-to-party updates and the mouseover. The version at Curse is old, but the one at WoWAce works just fine. Lightheaded gives me all the wowhead info I could possibly want and clicky coords for a waypoint for my quests.

Frames - Pitbull. <3

Other - FuBar to get the crap off my mini-map, Yatba for buff/debuff tracking, BindPad for happier macros, Decursive for taking pictures at the zoo...er, DBM and Omen because people have a seizure if you don't run both at all times, Prat {no, not you, the chat mod}, Party Ability Bars for cooldown tracking.

Jubber
07-27-2009, 12:56 AM
Multibox - Jamba

Bars - Bar4

Map - Carbonite

Quest - Carbonite

Bag - bagnon

Frames - Pitbull

Other - SuperduperMacro - For large macros. Make 1 macro for your main then, hit receive on your alt and send on your main and there you go.. Only ever have to write your macro's once. Basically an easy way to copy paste.

Sychosys
07-27-2009, 01:29 AM
Bar - Dominos. It does all I need it to do, easy rebinding, easy resizing. As far as Macros, just save your whole "#showtooltip /cast [target=focustarget] ..." in notepad and copy paste it to WoW as needed. I even write out entire macro sets in Notepad to copy/paste, especially if I run more than 1 of the same class. Makes for easy changes and works as a backup.
That is what I am doing now, writing them in notepad and then doing a nice cut/paste five times over, for every class, hehe. Then when I get a new ability I have to do it again.. Some times I can get keyclone to just let me write the macros all at once, but if I do something wrong, a simple click or what not, its a pain cleaning it up again and again. I really think Dominos is the way I will go though.

BindPad for happier macros Maybe this is worth checking out.. Or maybe its time to make a macro notepad in WoW. When all is said and done Ill try and update my original post to give a list of options and such along with groupings of what people have found to work well together.

Sychosys
07-27-2009, 01:29 AM
Other - SuperduperMacro - For large macros. Make 1 macro for your main then, hit receive on your alt and send on your main and there you go.. Only ever have to write your macro's once. Basically an easy way to copy paste.Oooo :) Thanks!

Sychosys
07-27-2009, 04:45 AM
edit: A Link ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=RGalleryImageWrapper&itemID=618&type=page&from=user')
Alright, there is a screen shot of the level .. 5 or 6 druids, I forget which (They leveled up a bit as I was testing the layout out). I like this layout, not entirely semetrical by any means but so far its working. I am however having a few issues with X-Perl. For my target window I found a checkbox that lets me put the buffs of the target above or below. Is there a similar option for the Party windows? As above would be preferable.. I may just be missing it.. I am not sure.

Anywho, Comments welcome I was trying for a Party 1 Party 2 Main Party 3 Party 4 layout with XPerl but this was the best I could do since they appear to have to be grouped together in either a line or a column and no other combination.

Fef
07-27-2009, 07:01 AM
Boxer Assistant: Jamba. Is there anything else ?

Bar Replacement: Dominos. Nice and simple.

Map Replacement: Default.

Bag Replacement: Default.

Quest Assist: QuestHelper, that's it. I like doing quest, so I actually read the quest text (at least the first time I do a quest), that and QuestHelper make quests easy enough.

Party Frames: Default, plus a really tiny addon that shows if/what my alts are casting. I don't remember the name, will look it up when at home.

Other: VanasKOS, obviously.

Tonyx
07-27-2009, 09:31 AM
Multibox Assistants: Jamba

Bar Replacement: Macaroon. It's like heaven for us macro lovers. Need a bit of time to learn, though.

Map Replacement: Mapster

Bag Replacement: Tbag. I like they way it sorts things.

Quest Assistance: Questhelper, lightheaded.

Party/Player Frames: Pitbull, what else?

Other addons: Chinchilla, DoTimer, Mik's Scrolling Battle Text, Docking Station + a lot of LDB plugins, Prat, Quartz, Recount.

Khatovar
07-27-2009, 10:33 AM
Just to hijack a little bit since this thread is here. I'm just recently back to WoW and I'm seeing that I need to be able to track slave procs from my main {wasn't an issue on my old teams}. Is Mik's still the way to go for alerting the main on slave procs {thinking Nightfall, Omen of Clarity, etc}?

Gibbin
07-27-2009, 12:09 PM
multibox assistant: jamba... did i even have too put that in there lol

Bar replacement: none, no need

Map replacement: atlis and atlis loot

Bag replacement: bagon keeps it simple, and reminds me of hobbits lol

Quest assistance: quest helper... i mean realy.. it is the best

Party/raid frames: x-perl

other addons: vanaskos, auctioneer, omen

aboron
07-27-2009, 02:29 PM
Multibox assistant: multitool (does a lot less than jamba, in a good way, if that's possible)

Bar replacement: Dominoes - simple and easy mostly to see cooldowns and have something set for solo play, autobar - for food/drink/mount/quest use items, ISboxer for extended macros on raw keybindings (takes no bar spaces)

Map replacement: carbonite, gathermate, gethermatehud (on herbers and miners)

Bag replacement: arkinventory - does bank and bags

Quest assistance: carbonite (on all for sharing data), and tourguide on main only (and disabled most of the time on 80s)

Party/raid frames: ag_UF - small and simple, shows casting bars and predictive healing. Open RDX, big and complicated for click casting of heals and cures

other addons on all: advanced trade skill, postal, tekKompare, Titan, WIM, ZOMGBuffs

other addons on just main: DBM, Elk buffbars, quartz, auctioneer, omen, recount, msbt, chatter, atlas

Spirithawke
07-27-2009, 03:11 PM
multibox assistant: MultiTool ('http://www.wowace.com/addons/multitool/') by DgtlSorcrs ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=User&userID=15947') from these forums. I REALLY love this. Much less complicated than Jamba.

Bar replacement: none, might want to look ito this myself.

Map replacement: Carbonite, Atlas, Atlasloot. TomTom

Bag replacement: Bagnon

Quest assistance: Carbonite, QuestAnnouncer

Party/raid frames: XPERL

other addons: Auctioneer, Omen (threat mod), Prat (chat mod), Recount (damage/dps tracking), SilverDragon (Rare notification), Deadly Boss Mods with the optional TBC part downloaded as well, Gatherer, GatherSage (modifies item tooltips to show where things came from/level needed to harvest them), Advanced TradeSkillWindow (crafting addon), AckisRecipeList&RecipeRadar (where to get recipes), AuldLangSyne (friendlist improvements) AutoDing (hey it is amusing), BetterInbox (mailbox improvement), BuyEmAll (improved utility buying stuff at merchants, buy whole stacks at once), SellOMatic (oneclick selling gray stuff), CensusPlus (to make it easy for Prat to record player level/class of everyone online, I like to know who is what in trade channel *shrugs*), DynRepBar (reputation bar switching automatically), FarmIt (tracks stuff you farm with little movable bar), FishingAce (Simple Right-Click casting), Fizzle (show you an items durability values above the item +recoloring in your character frame), GuildCheck (what changed in your guild since you last logon), ItemPriceTooltip (Know what quest reward is worth the most when selling back to vendor), LinkWrangler (open multiple links at same time), MobInfo3 (mob statistics/drop tracking), MobsToLevel (how many more rats do I have to kill to get to level 2? :D ), MoneyMonitor (small moveable money window, used to prefer a differnet one, but sadly was broken in a patch and never updated >.< ), RangeRecolor (recolor buttons when out of range of target), OmniCC (puts CD time on buttons, one less window to look at), RatingBuster (make those ratings on items actually make sense), RecipeKnown (Colors those recipes you already know at the vendors), Sienna's Gem Viewer (Auction house plugin to find specific stat/rarity/color easily), SkillLevel (small mod to tell you what efective character level your skills are at in the skills frame), Zonelevel (tells you the level of the zone you are in), AFKTimer, (how long have I been AFK?), Flightmap (Flight Timers and draws lines of connection at Flight Master window)

Yes I run ALOT of mods on the MAIN toon, lol. Note: can make walking thru Dalaran hell!!! Also have a separate wow symlink for raiding with almost all non-raiding mods de-selected, faster then de-selecting them all lol.

aboron
07-27-2009, 03:24 PM
Carbonite, Atlas, Atlasloot. TomTom

I've been having pretty good luck just using Carbonite's TomTom emulation, but i haven't used TomTom by itself in a long time, is there anything much that it does on it's own that Carbonite can't also do?

Ruibarian
07-27-2009, 03:27 PM
multibox assistant: MultiTool ('http://www.wowace.com/addons/multitool/') by DgtlSorcrs ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=User&userID=15947') from these forums. I REALLY love this. Much less complicated than Jamba.

Bar replacement: none, might want to look ito this myself.

Map replacement: Carbonite, Atlas, Atlasloot. TomTom

Bag replacement: Bagnon

Quest assistance: Carbonite, QuestAnnouncer

Party/raid frames: XPERL

other addons: Auctioneer, Omen (threat mod), Prat (chat mod), Recount (damage/dps tracking), SilverDragon (Rare notification), Deadly Boss Mods with the optional TBC part downloaded as well, Gatherer, GatherSage (modifies item tooltips to show where things came from/level needed to harvest them), Advanced TradeSkillWindow (crafting addon), AckisRecipeList&RecipeRadar (where to get recipes), AuldLangSyne (friendlist improvements) AutoDing (hey it is amusing), BetterInbox (mailbox improvement), BuyEmAll (improved utility buying stuff at merchants, buy whole stacks at once), SellOMatic (oneclick selling gray stuff), CensusPlus (to make it easy for Prat to record player level/class of everyone online, I like to know who is what in trade channel *shrugs*), DynRepBar (reputation bar switching automatically), FarmIt (tracks stuff you farm with little movable bar), FishingAce (Simple Right-Click casting), Fizzle (show you an items durability values above the item +recoloring in your character frame), GuildCheck (what changed in your guild since you last logon), ItemPriceTooltip (Know what quest reward is worth the most when selling back to vendor), LinkWrangler (open multiple links at same time), MobInfo3 (mob statistics/drop tracking), MobsToLevel (how many more rats do I have to kill to get to level 2? :D ), MoneyMonitor (small moveable money window, used to prefer a differnet one, but sadly was broken in a patch and never updated >.< ), RangeRecolor (recolor buttons when out of range of target), OmniCC (puts CD time on buttons, one less window to look at), RatingBuster (make those ratings on items actually make sense), RecipeKnown (Colors those recipes you already know at the vendors), Sienna's Gem Viewer (Auction house plugin to find specific stat/rarity/color easily), SkillLevel (small mod to tell you what efective character level your skills are at in the skills frame), Zonelevel (tells you the level of the zone you are in), AFKTimer, (how long have I been AFK?), Flightmap (Flight Timers and draws lines of connection at Flight Master window)

Yes I run ALOT of mods on the MAIN toon, lol. Note: can make walking thru Dalaran hell!!! Also have a separate wow symlink for raiding with almost all non-raiding mods de-selected, faster then de-selecting them all lol.oh god thats quite a list!!!! cant believe u typed that all out!!!
its almost to this point Addon ('http://www.crispygamer.com/comics/experiencepoints/experiencepoints-2009-06-09.aspx') !!!

Dorffo
07-27-2009, 05:03 PM
Jamba - so good
SuperDuperMacro - great for long macros
TotemTimers - totem management
EventHorizon - cool down tracking
PowerAuras - reminds me to keep buffs/debuffs up
Mapster
MiniMapster
Outfitter

Recount
Omen - don't pull aggro!

Grid - party/raid frames
Clique - click-to-cast

rBars - small LUA based bar mod

UnderHood - player unit frame HUD

Ughmahedhurtz
07-27-2009, 05:50 PM
Boxer Assistant: Jamba (not much to say here; stick with the best)
Bar Replacement: None, use default UI. (use in-game macros for most things as the new extension to 64 macros per character = win)
Map Replacement: Carbonite (least memory-hoggish of the mapping addons from my experience; also very configurable; me likey)
Bag Replacement: OneBag 3
Quest Assist: Carbonite, QuestsFu and Tourguide/TomTom/WoW-Pro (Jame's leveling guide in TourGuide addon format)
Party Frames: Pitbull (extremely configurable and designed to be efficient on system resources)

The only other ones I use that are critical:
OhNoes (warning when follower breaks follow) SCT/SCTD (modified to show party dmg) Smartbuff (don't run a pally team without this! single-key group buffs ftw!) TradeSecretaryPrivyCork (shuts up those idiots using trade for "anal"/chucknorris/etc. spam and how many zits they popped today) MrPlow (inventory sorting) IceHUD (center-screen health/mana bars for you and your target) FuBar and misc. extensions (gold tracking, XP, performance, durability, etc.) FreeRefills (auto-buy drinks/food/ammo/reagents) CowTip (enhanced tooltip) Clique (for click-healing on any unitframes addon) ChatSounds (plays sounds when people talk in party/guild/whisper/etc. in case you're reading a web page or something when people talk to you) Bang! Anti-Spam (auto-reporting of gold spammers, blocks whispers from level 1 noobs [configurable] ) Auctionator (auction addon; sooooo easy to use, and doesn't fall prey to the problems Auctioneer does) AutoProfitX (auto-sell grays and soulbound stuff you can't use)
And the biggest one: BindPad. This is what I use for my extended macros. Allows binding any key to any macro. Zero bugs so far and very nice. Frees up a lot of buttons on your default bars so you can reduce clutter and/or use the default button bars for other things.

Solon
07-27-2009, 06:25 PM
Auctionator (auction addon; sooooo easy to use, and doesn't fall prey to the problems Auctioneer does)Would you be willing to go more into detail the advantages of Auctionator? I've never heard of it... What problems does Auctioneer fall to? I have never seen any myself, but I'd rather not live in ignorance, and bliss *is* overrated.

DrChaos
07-27-2009, 07:59 PM
Wow, alot of people use pitbul unit frames. Ive tried to set it up several times and always end up failing at it. I would like to use it because its awesome but cant find a good writeup on even the basic setup of it. Oh, and I cant find the global "make all the bars smaller" button. maybe ill take the 20 hours and try it again tonight

Ughmahedhurtz
07-27-2009, 08:30 PM
Auctionator (auction addon; sooooo easy to use, and doesn't fall prey to the problems Auctioneer does)Would you be willing to go more into detail the advantages of Auctionator? I've never heard of it... What problems does Auctioneer fall to? I have never seen any myself, but I'd rather not live in ignorance, and bliss *is* overrated.Well, the primary reason to use Auctioneer is so you can track pricing and have a mostly automatic sell setup, so it doesn't take you half an hour to put up an inventory full of stuff. The problem with Auctioneer is that it is easy to spoof it with invalid prices so that it becomes almost useless for pricing things. Example: retards put up 10 auctions of Wool Cloth for 99g each. This skews the numbers so badly that you end up having to put in the numbers manually, defeating the purpose of the addon.

With Auctionator, what it does is shows you the current prices for items that are on the AH and, if none exist, shows you the price you used the last time you listed it. Then you can just click the price point you want to list it at and BAM, click the auction button and you're done. This is especially good as the prices may run very differently on weekends versus mid-week sales. Also, if an item is sold out this week and people want it badly, the price today may be 3-5x what it was last week, which makes the Auctioneer historical pricing data useless again. Auctionator shows you what the current items are listed at, so you can undercut them by a few silver very easily.

Auctionator also includes a "mass auction" functionality. Let's say you have 10 stacks of health potions. Click the "Multiple Auctions" button, put in 10 stacks of 5, and it'll auto-list all 10 at whatever your selected price is. It will also let you split a stack. I.e.: have a stack of 10 Righteous Orbs? Click "Multiple Auctions", put in 10 stacks of 1, and it'll split them into singles and list all 10. Really easy and fast.

Also, since Auctionator doesn't store thousands of auction histories, it doesn't take up much memory at all.

I suppose I should caveat this by saying I haven't used Auctioneer since the first two weeks the 3.0 patch compatible version was out, so they may have changed things a lot since then.

Ughmahedhurtz
07-27-2009, 08:31 PM
Wow, alot of people use pitbul unit frames. Ive tried to set it up several times and always end up failing at it. I would like to use it because its awesome but cant find a good writeup on even the basic setup of it. Oh, and I cant find the global "make all the bars smaller" button. maybe ill take the 20 hours and try it again tonightYou know you can just import someone else's config, right? Find someone's setup you like and have them send it to you. ;)

Solon
07-27-2009, 09:23 PM
Auctioneer has the mass auction stuff too, and I haven't seen mine fooled yet, maybe I have a long enough history? Gonna try the auctionator I think.
Wow, alot of people use pitbul unit frames. Ive tried to set it up several times and always end up failing at it. I would like to use it because its awesome but cant find a good writeup on even the basic setup of it. Oh, and I cant find the global "make all the bars smaller" button. maybe ill take the 20 hours and try it again tonight/pitbull
open directories: pitbull, All Units, other, size. Slide the slider marked scale. Simple :wacko: Took me a while to find it too.

heffner
07-27-2009, 09:25 PM
I have a lot of addons. I need to go through and figure out what I truly need some day.

Boxer Assistant: Jamba

Bar Replacement: Bartender4

Map Replacement: Cartographer, Mappy

Bag Replacement: ArkInventory

Quest Assist: Questhelper, Lightheaded

Party Frames: X-Perl

Other: SmartBuff, Fubar, Quartz, Skillet, TipTac, Clique, Grid, Mobinfo, Monkeybuddy/quest, Elkbuffbars, Auctioneer, Recount......

Sychosys
07-28-2009, 12:07 AM
Alright, I spent almost 2 hours trying to set up X-Perl, now Ill go try Pitbull4 since so many of ya mentioned it :)

edit: Ok, I am sold. It has almost all the same features as X-Perl (I only say almost cause I dont know them all) plus additional layout information, along with the ability to save Unit Layouts individually with its In-Game Editor. So yeah, I am sold :)

edit2: Bah, I swear people make these mods one step away from awesome. I finally got the setup I -almost- wanted!! Two by Two with the focus in the middle and its target, next step would be to branch off the target and focus of each party member in a further fanning (one kind above and below the other to each side).. but .. WHile I can finally move around where the buffs are tagged, I can only set ALL of the party members to the same location.. Does anyone know why this restriction on group unit frames exists? Are the designers of these mods unable to break them or just unwilling?? hehe Think Outside the box !!! Sheesh!

edit3: Woot! Stuf Unit Frames, I can finally set up just about everything, A little more complicated cause everything is so touchable but that is what I needed.

Sychosys
07-29-2009, 08:30 PM
Holy CRAP, No wonder you guys all say y ou need such high ram counts, Its either Cartographer3.0 or Tomtom (the only two addons I tried adding in last round) that is causing wow to completely peek out RAM usage.. I mean just, WOW.. Holy. Brought my system to its knees just trying to do all the memory paging required.. Sooo to that end I have ordered 8GB of ram.. but Jesus that is insane those two addons together are such massive memory sinks

Solon
07-29-2009, 09:13 PM
I run a limited number of addons on my slaves, and a ton on my main. RAM hasn't really ever been a problem as long as no addons get leaky. Going to 8gig has definitely sped up my 5 box city travels though. Thinking I might try for much higher RAM count next year. I always run 5x questhelper and 5x tomtom without trouble.

Ughmahedhurtz
07-29-2009, 10:49 PM
TomTom has nothing to do with it, IMO. It's just a widget that draws a single waypoint arrow. I'm looking at mine and it's at 233kb for TomTom. Cartographer, now, has a TON of memory depending on whether you're showing both herbs/mining nodes, and how clean your node point database is.

Sychosys
07-29-2009, 11:36 PM
It turned out to be a combination of things, like the fact that I was starting to set up all the addons one at a time and disabling the others. The end result is the same though and 8GB of ram (max my mobo could support) will be here on Friday. Until that time I just use the simplified interface I was before (Auctioneer on main only, gatherer across the board (Dont ask me why) Quest Helper and Quest Guru and finishing it off with Tour Guide).

In all honesty it looked like Auctioneer, Cartographer and X-Perl are the main offenders. Tomtom really did not do much of anything, hehe. It is fairly amusing that the Macbook Pro can 5box better than my desktop though when the wrong addons are selected :)

edit: I modified Quest Helper to turn off the display on the alt displays and show it on the main display. They still communicate to each other but only the main screen actually does any pathing tracking/navigation or the like. Since I some times swap windows excessively I just broke out the Toggle command into a Show/Hide, as mentioned before on the forums.

In the latest version of quest helper (release 7/28/09) ya go to about line 72 or so in help.lua and should find the first function, the toggle, right there. All I did was cut and paste it twice more and make it set it to one or the other instead, as seen below


function QuestHelper:ToggleHide()
QuestHelper_Pref.hide = not QuestHelper_Pref.hide

-- Desaturate the button texture if QuestHelper is disabled.
if self.MapButton then
-- This should always be true, but just in case...
self.MapButton:GetNormalTexture():SetDesaturated(Q uestHelper_Pref.hide)
end

if QuestHelper_Pref.hide then
if QuestHelper_Pref.track then
self:HideTracker()
end

self.map_overlay:Hide()
self:TextOut("QuestHelper is now |cffff0000hidden|r.")
else
if QuestHelper_Pref.track then
self:ShowTracker()
end

self.map_overlay:Show()
self.minimap_marker:Show()
self:TextOut("QuestHelper is now |cff00ff00shown|r.")

QH_Timeslice_Bonus(20) -- Let the corutine do some overtime...
end
end

function QuestHelper:SetHide()
QuestHelper_Pref.hide = true

-- Desaturate the button texture if QuestHelper is disabled.
if self.MapButton then
-- This should always be true, but just in case...
self.MapButton:GetNormalTexture():SetDesaturated(Q uestHelper_Pref.hide)
end

if QuestHelper_Pref.track then
self:HideTracker()
end

self.map_overlay:Hide()
self:TextOut("QuestHelper is now |cffff0000hidden|r.")
end

function QuestHelper:SetShow()
QuestHelper_Pref.hide = false

-- Desaturate the button texture if QuestHelper is disabled.
if self.MapButton then
-- This should always be true, but just in case...
self.MapButton:GetNormalTexture():SetDesaturated(Q uestHelper_Pref.hide)
end

if QuestHelper_Pref.track then
self:ShowTracker()
end

self.map_overlay:Show()
self.minimap_marker:Show()
self:TextOut("QuestHelper is now |cff00ff00shown|r.")

QH_Timeslice_Bonus(20) -- Let the corutine do some overtime...
end


Then towards the bottom of the file you will see the command list and such, I once again just cut and paste the toggle command's entry and made two more, show and hide

{"TOGGLE",
"Toggles QuestHelper's modifications to the minimap and world map.",
{}, QuestHelper.ToggleHide, QuestHelper},

{"HIDE",
"Hides QuestHelper's modifications to the minimap and world map, and pauses routing calculations.",
{}, QuestHelper.SetHide, QuestHelper},

{"SHOW",
"Shows QuestHelper's modifications to the minimap and world map, and runs routing calculations.",
{}, QuestHelper.SetShow, QuestHelper},


I have to do this every time they update it and I wuld like it to work a bit better or what not, but it works, and gets rid of 4x the route processing.

zanthor
07-29-2009, 11:50 PM
Boxer Assistant: Jamba

Bar Replacement: Macaroon - however I could do everything I do with the default bars, in fact if I could move them on the screen for solo play in raids I would use default bars.

Map Replacement: Carbonite - Every single thing you listed you don't like about carbonite I've turned off. I also use Sexymap for the SexyHud which is just... well, sexy for mining/herbing/anything with a node.

Bag Replacement: Bagnon cuz it rocks.

Quest Assist: Carbonite

Party Frames: OpenRDX however I'm considering changing to Grid/Clique for reasons that don't affect multiboxing. In fact the ONLY reason I'm staying with OpenRDX right now is because it's so awesome for syncing between 5 characters (or 25 or 50 or 100 or hoever many.)

Other: SmartBuff

Spirithawke
07-30-2009, 09:19 PM
Map replacement: Carbonite, Atlas, Atlasloot. TomTom

I've been having pretty good luck just using Carbonite's TomTom emulation, but i haven't used TomTom by itself in a long time, is there anything much that it does on it's own that Carbonite can't also do?

Hmm...I have never tried the TomTom emulation feature of Carbonite. I started using TomTom a long time before I started paying for Carbonite. I liked it and it's little movable window, so just never quit using it.

DrChaos
07-30-2009, 10:01 PM
Sychosys: could you post a screen shot of your layout... I even googled looking for ayouts that people are willing to share. thx :)

alcattle
07-30-2009, 10:24 PM
Carbonite, Atlas, Atlasloot. TomTom

I've been having pretty good luck just using Carbonite's TomTom emulation, but i haven't used TomTom by itself in a long time, is there anything much that it does on it's own that Carbonite can't also do?

Hmm...I have never tried the TomTom emulation feature of Carbonite. I started using TomTom a long time before I started paying for Carbonite. I liked it and it's little movable window, so just never quit using it.
Nice part about carbonite's arrow is you control what it is pointing at, can change it at any time. QH's arrow points at closest thing, and TomTom's kind works in the middle of those.

If we knew all the things Carbonite does, I think we can run with Jambe and Carbonite until we raid.

Sychosys
07-30-2009, 10:40 PM
Sychosys: could you post a screen shot of your layout... I even googled looking for ayouts that people are willing to share. thx :)This ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=RGalleryImageWrapper&itemID=618&type=page') is pretty close to what it looks like now.. kinda sorta maybe, hehe. Since I could not get the party frames to display things as I wanted I went back to some of the easier to set up unit frames. When comparing PB and XPerl XPerl just flowed better so I have stuck with them for now. I pretty much have all the info near the center of my screen because that is where I am looking most of the time.. Too many times some sneaky SOB of a mob would take out one of my guys with out me knowing it cause the party frame was too far to the right. And while I would rather keep the bottom of my screen clear (I play on a PVP server so the bottom of the screen is where people like to attack me from: Behind) the top of the screen is just too far away, hehe. Makes my neck crane to look at it :) The RAM has shipped and its on its way and should be here tomorrow or I will be upset since I sent it to where I work... and I dont want to come into work on the weekend just to get it :)

I hope it doesnt take all weekend but when I am done I will post a final screen shot.. I will also try and surmise the most popular options in my Original Post of what people are using for what.

Sychosys
07-30-2009, 10:42 PM
If we knew all the things Carbonite does, I think we can run with Jambe and Carbonite until we raid.Yeah I guess if we took enough time to learn some of the mods we would probably have an OMG moment... But honestly i spent Sunday and almost this entire week's play time so far working on the stupid layouts of my screens! hehe, I want to play! I am wasting RaF time. I thought a better interface layout woudl save me time but I didnt think it would take up this much time... stupid party unit frames! GraH!!

Sychosys
08-01-2009, 12:20 AM
Well, turns out 8GB of ram is a bit overkill, Loaded everything up and ran around AH for a little bit, not too far from the town, and I peaked out at around 3.5GB of ram at most with the current setup I have. It is nice, i have to say, to be running pretty much at peaked FPS (45 main 15 slavex4) pretty much all the time. It takes a few moments for the average FPS to peak when I swap windows but you can already see its nice and smooth and its just the count that is balancing out. Will be finishing my setup this weekend and smushing some more addons into the slaves for when I swap windows for them to once again be identical. Ill post a screenie after the forums swap tomorrow, no use in doing it now :)

Lash
08-01-2009, 01:11 AM
Multibox
* Jamba

Bars
* Bartender4
* ButtonFacade - for purty buttons!

Map
* Carbonite
* Sexymap - I don't use most of this, but it works for removing annoying addon buttons from the map

Quest
* Carbonite
* Lightheaded
* Tomtom - needed for Tourguide and Lightheaded
* Tourguide - only during RAF leveling

Bag
* ArkInventory - one bag with stuff autosorted is well worth the setup time

Frames
* Pitbull 4 - it is still in active development, but works well for 5 man groups

Other
* Bindpad - slowly moving away from this and using more of ISBoxer. When I first started boxing this helped me reduce the clutter of buttons on the screen.
* Recount - used to help me tweak my dps sequences
* Align - helps to setup multiple toons with the same widget positioning
* ISBoxer - you need Innerspace for this
* Postal - makes using the mailbox not painful
* Omen - only for testing new dps sequences or when I'm not the tank
* Titan

I agree that carbonite can be annoying with some of the stuff like the social window, but you can turn it off in the options.

I have lot of other random addons with several of them being class specific, the above are the major ones and now that I see how few it is...perhaps I should trim it down a bit. I have 8 GB of ram and running 3 copies still doesn't use all of it...I just don't like having to update them..h.eh.

At some point, I want to take the time to setup SatrinaBuffFrame so that I just see the buffs that my guys can cast.

MarkHR
08-01-2009, 08:47 PM
!swatter - error messages ansd it comes with auctioneer
auctioneer - NOT the auctioneer suite just the smaller download from the auctioneer website for the auction posting singles/multiples part
badboy - antispam
badboy_ccleaner - random rubbish removal from chat like multi line macro spam, etc.
badboy_levels - prevents whispers from characters below a user defined level
bagnon - one bag addon
bartender4 - bars addon, does what it says on the tin
beql - bayi's extended quest log, similar to doublewide no longer necessary thanks to blizzard's new quest log
capping - BG timers and maps
compass - onscreen compass bar
cursorcastbar - puts a ring (or rings) around the pointer to show anything from GCD (what I use it for) to castbars
dhud3 - hud, does what it says on the tin, seems much easier to use than others I've tried
doom_cooldownpulse - cooldowns in the centre of the screen, awesome addon
gathermate - multiboxing gatherer essential tool, reminds you to keep checking gatherer alts minimaps
gathermate_data - database of nodes for above
goingprice - ESSENTIAL pricing addon
goingprice_allakhazam - database of prices from the allkhazam website in a tool tip that makes auctioneering and choosing highest value quest rewards for vendoring so much easier
graphpaper - for the anal retentive to get everything lined up just right
jamba - multiboxing ESSENTIAL
learningaid - shows new spells in a box on screen and also scans for missing spells makes training so much easier
lightheaded - ESSENTIAL comments from wowhead about quests
lm chat - small and simple chat addon for those who like prat3.0 but don't want need all the functions
mappy - ESSENTIAL map addon that just works and well too, also is scaleable but, unlike some other minimap addons, doesn't scale the buttons (thankfully)
preformavenabler - ESSENTIAL for getting the multibox group into the same BG at the same time
questhelper - makes questing easier and the new updates have improved it a bit
shadowedunitframes - very easy to use uf addon that just works with almost no setup time
shieldsup - armor/shield buff warning
tidyplates - smaller, square, more easily clickable and visible name plates
titan - very useful panel addon
titan spec - dualspec display/switcher for titan panel
totemtimers - essential for shamans
tweakwow - ESSENTIAL for adjusting game settings above or below the options available through the standard ui
vanaskos - kos/friendly lists and enemy/friendly activity warning

addons I've used that I liked either don't currently need, can't find or aren't updated anymore
skillet
tradetabs
shockandawe
doublewide
deadlybossmods
recount
omen
cavedefenders
cattleprod

edit: senile old fart :D - removed atsw (el major suckage)

edit2: 3.2 quest log is now doublewide (at last)

Sychosys
08-02-2009, 11:17 PM
Multibox
* Jamba

Bars
* Dominos

Map
* Cartographer 3.0
* Sexymap

Quest
* Quest Helper
* Tourguide

Bag
* OneBag
* OneBank

Frames
* StUF (Stuf Unit Frames)

Other
* Recount
* Auctioneer
* Gatherer

And here is the screen shot.. Thanks all for the help in recomendations and usages. Ill be sure to find some more nifty things to use over time but wanted to let ya all know what I ended up with.

http://74.54.39.65/images/WoWLayout.jpg

thepete
08-04-2009, 03:52 AM
However, I am tired of having to write #showtooltip /cast [target=focustarget] Name Of Spell for every ability I get. I have seen addons like Macaroon mentioned that you can set [target=focustarget] as something the bar or button will always do so all I have to do is drag my attack spells to that bar.

You can actually do this with Bartender4, but you kind of have to edit the lua source code a bit.

They have an option that you can enable (per bar) called "Auto Assist Target" (I think, I am at work now so cannot check the exact option name).

So basically it would be similar to adding [target=targettarget] before each spell on the action bar. However, if you want it to behave like whacking [target=focustarget] before all your spells do the following,

Find "StateBar.lua" (the one directly in the base Bartender4 directory), make a backup of it incase things go wrong.
Open it in whatever text editor you like.
Replace all occurances of "targettarget" with "focustarget" (there is a total of 4 of them to replace).
Reload WoW, enable Auto Assist on the bar you want this to work on and its all set.

I tried this awhile back, seemed to work fine back then, I apologise if it doesn't now though! :o

I also opened a ticket on wowace to try get this implemented officially in the addon, no reply as of yet though.

Sychosys
08-04-2009, 05:44 AM
Very nice, Makes me wonder how much work it would be to make an addon that can just be applied to Any button, not just this one or that, where it can add in the extra targeting info based on harm/help or whatever

thepete
08-04-2009, 08:45 AM
Sorry, edited my post, I explained it wrong with the harm thing!

It doesnt matter what spell you put on the bar with the "Auto Assist" enabled option, heals, attacks, buffs etc.. It just changes that bar to always try casting on the focus target first (or target target if you havent edited the file). Sorry for the mixup.

Sychosys
08-06-2009, 03:31 AM
I understand what you meant, hehe. I was more of just musing that we all seem to either a) just write the macros or 2) jump through whatever hoops we have to with a button replacement to make our macros smaller. I was just musing over the idea of a button modifier addon that could be used with any button mods or even the default buttons to just slip that simple targeting or conditional stuff into it. This way we could use whatever mod we wanted or even no mod at all to the action bars but still get a thin layer of ease of macroing.

MarkHR
08-08-2009, 12:58 AM
As you may have guessed I use a lot of addons in the vain hope it will transfrom me into a better player :D

Cursorcastbar appears to have been abandoned and, while it still works, I'd like to know if there's anything else similar out there? That is, an up to date addon that will show only the GCD as a timer (ring, bar, gcd effect) around the pointer with nothing else (available in cursorcastbar by removing all the other cast info via gui).

Here're a few more useful addons

leveldisplay - adds quest level info to the quest frame and npcs and a couple of other places too
doublewideprofession - does what it says on the tin, makes profession window double paned and nothing else (still haven't found an updated skillet and atsw just didn't work)

JackBurton
09-02-2009, 10:32 PM
Multibox Assistants: Jamba, Smartbuff, afterlife crowd control (for CC work)

Bar Replacement: Dominoes, OniCC + OmniCC Shine (bar twinkles when cooldown met)

Map Replacement: Carbonite

Bag Replacement: Combuctor + Scrap plugin- this is a nice piece of work. it takes the asprin out of bag managment. please check it out.

Quest Assistance: Questhelper, lightheaded.

Party/Player Frames: Pitbull 4

Fubar: FriendsFu, GuidFu, SDurabilityFu, LocationFu, ExperienceFu, MoneyFu, ReagentFu, WhisperFU

Master Only: Recount, WIM, Omen3, Deadly Boss Mods

Other addons: xloot (highly recomended, very customizable loot window that pretty much lets you a> loot autoloot without the anoying window. and b> semi automatically broadcast loot to party/raid etc.. Mik's Scrolling Battle Text (At first I thought this addon was gaudy. but soon i fell in love with the standing out text and the sounds that dont annoy you like other addon sounds), Prat, Quartz, Recount.

MarkHR
09-03-2009, 04:06 AM
buffalo3 - buff/debuff mover because of the mappy buffs overlaying minimap problem
tradefilter3 - trade is for trade spam remover (removes lfm, lfg, lf tank/heal/dps type stuff)